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  • I seem to be one of the few people that bought MW3 for one reason, and one reason only; the Campaign, I can play MP on one of the others, in a better balanced, better player based game. I however like to play through the Single-Player, I enjoy the story, and the characters.

  • How about all you idiots in the comments shut the fuck up? It's called SUBJECTIVITY, folks. In the words of the great Biscuit himself: ''It's OK to not like things, but don't be a dick about it''.

  • DOVA TWINS

  • He did not say the story was bad, listen again. He said it was the weakest PART, does that mean its bad ? NO. Jeeeze guys, wake the heck up.

  • @Crispin83 Also saying something is the weakest part doesn't mean its WEAK. Even the best game as parts that are weaker than others. It doesn't necessary mean WEAK. Just not as good as the combat, or exploring or whatever.

  • Shadow complex was freakin awesome!!!!

  • "Dein Vati scheint dich mehr zu mögen als seine Randsteinschlampe von Frau" = Your dad seems to like you more than his wife bitch to the curb.

    Keep on raging, you sound pretty intelligent, and your disregard for the feelings of others just over an argument about a video game just shows how mature you are. Good for you.

  • Need The Elder Scrolls in co-op.

  • I think you've sold me on Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.

  • TES are a DEEPLY personal experience, people are all exploring different things in different ways, theres a lot of grognard type stuff, it wouldn't really work as a flat out co-op mode, although it might work with a special multiplayer module, bethseda has also ANSWERED this question with official statements and such!!!! poor research. multiplayer dev time takes away from singleplayer dev time. bethseda delivers a massive singleplayer experience and can't fit more.

  • I believe there is no multiplayer in Elder scrolls because it could make the game too easy. I could join my friends game as a level 1 and he could give me a sword with say 100 damage, a sword which would be too powerful for me to use at such a low level and this making the game and AI easier to defeat

  • Forgive my ignorance- I've not played any of the series- but are there actually such things in the game as the Elder Scrolls?

    You know, kind of like how every Fire Emblem game has a Fire Emblem in it, and Metroid Prime has Metroid Prime? Just curious.

  • @ChromaAurora Yes, there are, actually. I've only played Skyrim and there's one Elder Scroll that allows you to see the past a bit before you beat the main story.

  • @72U11 what do you do with it after i just read it and nothing happens

  • @The1177 Keep playing.

  • I would want to play coop on Skyrim, but I care about the quests so it'd be no fun if someone else did them. But having someone that can join you as a companion and don't have the voice, but rather just be like another follower would be great. But then, what if one of us died? Will there be access to revive?

    And then people also like to quicksave before doing anything, so either we'd save every minute or we would have to start again from the beginning when we die. There will be problems.

  • I completely agree with you, Skyrim's actual main story was fairly basic and not all that interesting, there are just so many people who blindly praise games like skyrim which really are flawed experiences.

  • It's pretty obvious why ME3 has multiplayer in it: It's the easiest way to sell DLC.

  • I would say TB that the story line in skyrim wasnt bad. Yes it wasnt the thing that you would want to focus on since their is so much more to do but the story line is ok and i would hate it if they did make it a bit better but its ok as it is. Even though it still should have multiplayer since that would be a game i would just love to screw around with my friends in.

  • TES is all about the story ... sorry TB but i dont think you completed the whole game or else you would realise there is a lot of story story telling and quest lines that make you feel unique in that universe some of the many examples of this are being the Achmage or the college or the Listener of the DarkBrothehood you can't share that tile with more people or else it takes away from the story almost making it pointless.

  • If Activision owned Portal we would have had 5 games by now with multiplayer ranking and overpriced DLC and a web service called something like Beyond the Portal and you could stat track, then after 5 years they would scrap it because of poor sales and not understand the term "over saturated"

  • I loved Bastion but I don't want a sequel. It's one of those games that doesn't outstay its welcome and that's one of the games greatest strengths

  • Is dark messiah for the console as good as the PC

  • Personally, I think TES and fallout would be (not exactly ruined) worse off with Co-op, to me, It always felt like that lone-wolf adventure, especially in Fallout 3 and NV traversing the ruins of the old world

  • Yeah, I'd be fine with games only being a few hours long, but in my opinion the price point for that is $5 or less.

  • yeah, give us a skyrim lets play with TB and jesse cox

  • "Says he avoided CoD, has played Black Ops for 50+ hours"

    Sorry TB, but you're wrong.

  • @Dyakasoria He didn't touch the single player, that's what he meant

  • What if they released a Skyrim expansion/TES spin-off with a plot based around 2-player co-op? It would be a gamble with some people only wanting to play it alone but if they focused all their attention to the two-player plot and gameplay could it work?

  • TB, this is the first time I find myself disagreeing with you and I don't mean to offend, but you really don't speak for the majority of us on Skyrim and Oblivion's lore. I wouldn't wipe my ass with the lore from most RPGs, but TES has some of the best lore I have ever seen. The main story on Skyrim and even Oblivion was very interesting and the dialogue wasn't that bad. You can't really say "Nobody cares for Skyrim's lore" since you've only played Skyrim for 2 hours, and I'm sure the majority

  • @TheFlammableGas Same here, When I started playing Morrowind I immediately wanted to know more about the lore.

  • @TheFlammableGas I don`t play skyrims main story neither guild/factions because honestly they suck!in 4 hours i can do, College of Winterhold, Darh Brotherhood and main quest while in Oblivion and Morrowind i would have done 1 thing, the main quest! what that makes people buy it is because first, its so simplified, 2nd those that play it dont even play RPG`s and thats why they think its good but for an pro RPG player its not good at all!

  • @InsaneMagnus I'm a pro RPG player, I've always played old-school RPGs, and I love Skyrim.

    Sure it's missing a lot, but I still love it.

    Faction lore in Skyrim isn't as good as Oblivion's, but the main quest's was.

  • @InsaneMagnus I'm curious what a "professional" RPG player calls a good RPG >_> Skyrim certainly has it's flaws, but it's a great overall package. My personal favorite RPG of all time is Chrono Trigger.

  • I beg to differ with you, sir. TB didn't say that the LORE of Oblivion/Skyrim was uninteresting. I daresay his point was that the main storylines of the games aren't thrilling or amusing, be it the cause of the narrative (someone stole your sweetroll?), or the fact that there are many more interesting features (dungeons, sidequests,...). Tbh I actually quite enjoyed the main story in Oblivion, but when compared to a plot of a good, story-driven game, it doesn't really hold up.

  • @FrancisTrout Like I said, not many "story driven" games are as good, I prefer the TES series, and only a hardcore RPG player could appreciate it.

    But still, what right does TB have to say about Skyrim's storyline? He's only plyaed for 2 hours, just because he didn't like Oblivion's, doesn't mean Skyrim's sucked.

  • @TheFlammableGas My native language is german du Hurensohn, geh weiter Schwänze lutschen du Kackbratze. Talking about your bs btw, saying you won't reply and still keep replying is just proving even more what a fucking stuck up little bitch that keeps liking his own comments you really are. Also, still not a single valid argument on your side, keep the fanboyism up!

  • @wow3214 Mkay, whatever floats your boat, kid.

  • @TheFlammableGas Wer ist hier wütend du Kohlkopf xD

  • @wow3214 Wow, cabbage? That's pretty mild, comparing to what you've been saying in the last few comments with insults of my mother, just because a few 4-letter word comments made you cry. But good for you.

  • @TheFlammableGas keep trying, child.

  • @wow3214 Mkay, thanks for the motivation.

  • @TheFlammableGas you seem to need it

  • @wow3214 I sure do, thanks again.

  • have to agree

  • @TheFlammableGas the main quest for both Oblivion and Skyrim were both atrocious. That doesn't mean the lore was bad though

  • @MrMrKnoxy I wouldn't say atrocious, Oblivions was OK you just don't have to look at it at a negative point of view, and Skyrim's was good, better than Oblivion's I'd have to say.

  • @TheFlammableGas The thing with TES lore is that there's just SO much to do that it tends to get pushed on the backburner. But don't get me wrong, I love the lore.

  • @TheFlammableGas yeah the lore's intresting but i don't think that the whole concept of a tes game really does show its strong lore

  • @wow3214 Most quests in TES games involve the lore. Main quest, guilds, daedra quests.

  • @TheFlammableGas obviously it involves the lore, but doesn't do that well at all.

  • @wow3214 Any proof? What I've heard from people, they've been saying that the storylines for the guilds were amazing, I've seen it on forums and even from people I know. I have yet to hear from someone who actually has a valid reason to why the lore and storytelling is bad. Do you have any proof? WHAT makes it bad? You've just been agreeing with TB for the sake of agreeing, and like I said with the other guy, if TB didn't mention it, you'd have a different stance, it's fanboyism, we ALL have it.

  • @TheFlammableGas sure fanboyism... i actually played all the guild quest and the deadric quest unlike you so who's being a fanboy here. What makes it bad are the mostly very bland and shallow characters, the unintresting overarching story of the quests (except few of the deadric quests and the the dark brotherhood questline) and the incredibly uncinematic way of presenting it all. btw, i do love the game, just not for its bad storytelling.

  • @wow3214 I'm being a fanboy here? Utter bullshit, you're just begining to explain now an opinion you've just pulled out of midair on Oblivion's problems. I don't think I'll listen to the guy who said MW3 had good multiplayer on a topic of RPG lore. Like I said, It's fanboyism, I've agreed with TB on every matter except this, because majority of players LIKED the storytelling and the majority of people who don't, say because TB has said it.

  • @TheFlammableGas having not even played the quests and hyping them up nonetheless just because you like the game is called fanboyism you retard, and i called the mw3 mp fine not good, reading is a bitch isn't it? talking about pulling opinions out of midair, you probably think super mario has a great story aswell you biased fuck.

  • @wow3214 Aww, is someone crying? Get angry kid, it makes you look smarter. Now, you don't know me nor do you know that I've done near every quest in the game and have gotten to level 50. And that first sentence of your's made no sense. And to prove that you're saying utter bullshit about Skyrim's lore, are the 90 people who agreed with me, compared to the 22, who about 11 were fanboys just felt offended. Plus I didn't get the memo that "good" and "fine" were changed to have different definitions

  • @wow3214 And before I go and ignore every other ranting, butthurt statement of your's I'd like to say this:

    Good: satisfactory in quality, quantity, or degree.

    Fine: of superior or best quality; of high or highest grade.

    The dictionary is a bitch ain't it? Little biased child.

  • @wow3214 And like I said, TB has only played Skyrim for 2 hours, and I remember him saying how he didn't like Oblivion's storytelling, so obviously, he took the 2 hours, plus his bad experience with Oblivion, and made out that Skyrim was no different. You want proof of fanboyism? Go to a different video and see how TB gets hundreds of thumbs up for simply saying 3 words in the comments, and I'm one of those fanboys, but this just wasn't fair for him to say his opinion is all of ours.

  • @TheFlammableGas its HILARIOUS how you write text after text of your bs without having made a single point to support your apparently delusional reasoning. why don't you rage some more, skyrim fanboy? Ich nehm mir dafür noch deine Mutter vor heute abend, du Spast.

  • @wow3214 You're describing youself right now. The rage, fanboyism, and BS, just look at your past comments. but, whatever floats your boat kid, you can act as tough as you want, but using Google translator to make a "your mother" insult in German doesn't make you smart. Теперь ползти обратно в свою дыру, потому что вы бушуют в воздухе.

  • @TheFlammableGas Well I totaly agree with TB here. I guess players are just generally divided in the matter. I personally care more about diablo's lore than of TES games but still I always explore the hell out of every one of them since beloved Morrowind.

  • @SayuSunrise If TB didn't metion it, trust me, you'd probably have a diffferent stance. And Diablo and TES are completely different games. Do you have anything that actually makes you believe TES's lore is bad? The lore is what makes it great, people love the whole "Dragonborn" story. And since you loved Morrowind, I really think you'd have a different opinion if TB didn't mention it. I don't mean it in an offensive way, because I would agree with TB if it was a matter I never thought about.

  • @TheFlammableGas Dein Vati scheint dich mehr zu mögen als seine Randsteinschlampe von Frau, bro =)

  • @wow3214 Wow, I've never seen someone get so angry at a few comments that are less than six words long.

    Fëmija, i mirë për ju. Nëse papjekur tuaj, mendimet fëminore të bëjnë të lumtur, atëherë të mbajtur në kamionët çisternë.

  • @TheFlammableGas i said your mother was a lovely human being, hows that insulting? do you hate your mother? must have beaten you with a stick, poor lil fella =(

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  • @TheFlammableGas It was more a question towards his viewers then a factual statement, i'm sure. I'm not a huge fan, but i believe TB is mature enough to tell us -his- perspective and not attempt to drone his viewers into agreeing.. Each to their own, after all.. He might feel the story was the worst part, and that's fine. He doesn't say anything about majority. He's simply confirming to those who might agree. Those who don't shake their head and continue watching. ^.^

  • @Lumsie TB has said that occasionally he says things he doesn't even know he said on episodes, and I don't think he was trying to drone us, he just assumed Skyrim's storytelling was bad because Oblivion's wasn't the best and he said "Did anyone really care about the main storyline in Oblivion?" he may have assumed that we didn't like it either. It's an honest mistake, and I'm sure he wasn't trying to get us to agree, he just has a different opinion.

  • @666Seryan Oh sorry, I wasn't saying they should put in multiplayer. I was saying they shouldn't

  • my only problem with multiplayer in skyrim is the time skip and sleep function, when you go to bed does your games pause for 2h while ur pal keep playing? idk

  • The Greybeards mention stuff like "only one dovakin has been shown to us" but it really seemed to hint that there very easily could be more, a co-op in that game would be insanely awesome.

  • @Zack0 Because playtime is the be all and end all of all video games ever?

  • Dovahtwins would be cool, but it would get awkward when one's a nord and the other's an argonian...

  • @Dinosa916 WOW WHAT A FUCKING ORIGINAL JOKE IM FUCKING LAUGHING MY ARSE OFF OH WAIT NO ARROW TO THE KNEE JOKES ARE FUNNY IM ACTUALLY LAUGHING AT HOW PATHETIC IT IS THAT PEOPLE STILL USE THIS

  • @Dinosa916 For real dear god, grow up and stop acting like an fucking retard

  • @Dinosa916 ಠ_ಠ This is for you: watch?v=mSDfxde8fSg

  • MP for skyrim seems possible, but would still require a lot of work, especially with bugs. A lot of the game is exploration. So what happens when you exit a cave, and there's a bandit camp to the west, but a ice cave to the east. Who decides? A lot of the game is going at you own pace, in your own way (even if punished for this sometimes :S) And I just don't think that would work with more than one person.

  • Multiplayer would never work with Elder Scrolls games. Oblivion, Skyrim and Morrowind are all quintessential Single-player RPG games made to give you the best Single-player experience. Multiplayer would easily ruin the games' reputation if done wrong especially since Bethesda aren't known to create bug-free games. Other than that, I would never play these games with friends, they're meant for you to experience the environment and atmosphere alone to better the "role-play" aspect.

  • In my mind a game that is $60 (USD/CAD) should give me at least 30 hours of gameplay for the majority of game types especially RPGs to be worth the full price. Great example Skyrim: I've played over 120 hours and still not finished. The game is awesome and absolutely great value for money. Example of Bad = MW2, multiplayer is crap = 0 hours ( though I did get prestige, the community is so bad I just had to leave), campaign = 3-4 hours. Bad value for money.

  • @clai83 So because YOU didn't enjoy multiplayer, MW2 only has 4 hours max of content? Also getting to prestige takesd a little bit longer than 0 hours. Hours/dollar is a vallid way of measuring quality, but it's not the only way. What about all the bugs in skyrim? Maybe you haven't experienced a lot, but you know others have. How valuable is my 3 hours of questing if thwe quest is bugged because I explored a cave before given a quest? At least MW2 doesn't punish you for playing your way.

  • @cmilla111 Yes ME, who else am I going to talk about YOU? I had a lot of crashes in Skyrim, and actually I played about 140 hours but I took off some hours for my comment :p And WHO said that $/hour is the only way to judge a game? YOU not me. For example for me, Uncharted 3 is a spectacular game, but I beat it on hard in 6 or 7 hours, and I was not so interested in the multiplayer. Absolutely great game and worth the money. Assuming anything is absolute is just ignorance. -_-

  • @clai83 lol I have played MW2 for at least 250 hours. Still not bored of it.

  • @clai83 Im no CoD player myself, but if you got prestige Im sure that wasn't 0 hours worth of play.

  • @clai83 Mw2 you have to actually break down how much time you put into it on veteran its somewhat a challenge 6-8 hours maybe skipping sequeces,spec ops = an hour if your insanely mega or about 4-10 hours realisticly depending on skill and your memory,multiplayer is what its bought for and until you get to lvl 70 you havent tried every weapon,you forget its mainly with friends you get the enjoyment from,so itd be maybe 1st time 50 hours if your new to cod.Roughly 60+ hours or 1 dollar an hour.

  • @clai83 Black ops on the other hand,had stupid amounts of bugs poor sounds pathetic gun balancing(1 gun to the rule them all)and the campaign was just horsepoo, good story but poorly delivered.Zombies became boring and monotonous, no variance in zombies other then wow a dog on one level and the super fast clitchy zombie that grabs you from the other side of the room!!My self a game must be comparable to 1 hour per unit of currency you pay, so 39 pounds = 39 hours at very least.

  • @clai83 the multiplayer in mw3 is fine.

  • I would never ever play Oblivion/Skyrim with my friends. They all playing like from a quest to quest and they always rush thought the game. They would never put time into exploring. They always asking me "did you go through the 'XY' game?". I get always angry at them because not everyone rushing the gameplay. I like to take my time and I prefer my own pace playing games. I'm not playing games only to rush through them. I play games to HAVE FUN! So I hope there won't be any coop in any future TES

  • @Kragorin Protip: Play TES:VI co-op with OTHER friends :D

  • @James18998 I only have these ones as I fail at life XD

  • I think there isnt a co op mode for skyrim because it will take out all the pause kind of thing out of the game like when u are in mid combat you can get in the inventory and drink a potion or switch weapons so if they do make a co op mode they will need to change the whole game

  • @RockyX457

    He was saying that if SWTOR is multiplayer then there is no reason why elder scrolls couldn't be. He was just comparing the two.

  • @mdtwiztid Some people like to enjoy the lore and the backstory, having some other dude running around doing random shit would break that. Co-op makes you rush some things which should not be rushed for the sake of the immersion.

  • @Ragedaonenlonely i definetly think coop should not be a primary concern.

  • mirrors edge was one of the funnest games i ever played Rip *snif*

  • yes, new ip should be added into old IP. I would of NEVER ever played portal if it weren't for the orange box. I would of never ever played half life 2 as well (nor half life 1) if it werent for orange box. I only got it cuz it was 20 bucks, and guess what? I love every game. This in result, made me purchase portal 2 (which i love) and increasingly looking forward to half life 3 (which ill preorder).

  • ...I liked the Elder Scroll's story :S.

  • 5:47 "If they can pull it off with The Old Republic then I'm sure they can pull it off with Elder Scrolls." Isn't The Old Republic made by Bioware and Elder Scrolls by Bethesda Softworks?

  • @RockyX456 Well yes, but making a star wars mmo was a very big risk that happened to work out.

  • Always a pleasure to watch your videos.

  • TF2 came out on the PS3 and XBox? O.o

  • @Jake80073 Orange box. :P

  • Just add four player co-op to every game.

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  • Also the more I see Dark Messiah the more I wonder if Bethesda couldn't take a couple of cues from them. Bo staff fighting FTW

  • @ArtemusWolfwood Play Daggerfall, Hell, even Morrowind had combat staves. Its just Oblivion and Skyrim. Thats one reason why I still start up my beat up copy of Morrowind when I feel like some exploration.

  • The tricky thing would be utilizing co-op in a way that would make sense to the (light though it may be) narrative of Elder Scrolls, at least in the way they've presented it. Not to mention it would have to be determined whether certain quests would be completed or not depending on the character, at least if we're talking about Skyrim. For example, what if you decided to side with the Imperials, but your friend went with the Stormcloaks? Would it turn from co-op to PvP? Would your partner know?

  • >Skyrim

    >RPG

    Pick one.

  • The Elder Scrolls Games have used to have awkward text and tend to spawn massive internet memes but then it took an arrow to the knee...

  • To owners of the PC version of Skyrim, modders are working on several different modes of multiplayer for the game. An example of this is the MMO-style Skyrim Online, which works to a certain degree and is currently in it's alpha stages (one of the main issues is that every other player is naked and in reference pose).

  • Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is a fantastically fun game! Reinstalling it now.

  • @basketcase36 I love it too!! i love it soo much, i recently bought it on steam!!!

  • Has TB played skyrim yet? Last I heard he was refusing to do so on the grounds that too many people were reviewing it

  • @gruntyhug As i remember it, he refused to do a "WTF is..." of it because there are plenty of reviews. The reason for not playing it anymore (he has played it), was iirc some bad design decisions in the game. I'm too lazy to look it up to confirm.

  • They should make Skyrim CO-OP defenitly then we could see TB and Jesse Cox could do a sieries :)

  • @thamesironworks4 Or just watch Jesse FUS-RO-DAH TB off of the Throat of the World.

  • Mab, I can't keep up with all this content. :p

  • Name one bad game that had full co-op campaign.

  • @WhatButtonIsShoot Kane and Lynch O.O

  • tf2 is not successful on consoles because it depends on updates

    Its usual that tf2 gets an update every week, sometimes barely anything, sometimes alot of new weapons, but updates anyway

    and everyone should know how easy it is to get an update on the consoles

    its one thing, other thing might be that gameplay on pc and on consoles are very different, what they see on youtube wont work on consoles (example is efficient rocketjumping)

  • TB and JesseCox play Elder Scrolls: Skyrim. How much trolling w/ Unrelenting force and ragdolls could go on? XD

  • i have read somewhere that there is gonna be a mirror's edge sequel. and that its probably gonna run on battlefield 3 engine but i read it so its maybe not true but i have my hopes up :)

  • TB has to understand a lot fo companies don't put out sequels because they don't want to make a worse game. They had a good game and leave it at that. Especially indie developers who aren't in it for the money necessarily.

  • mirrors edge is going to have a sequel

  • can you do something whit yahtzze

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  • jump across, you can do it LOL

  • If I get an hour of gameplay per dollar spent, I consider it a good deal.

  • I strongly disagree with you on TES, the quests wouldnt work at all. things like guilds ect wouldnt work at all

  • 50 euro for warhammer space marine: 4~6hour campain.

    10 euro for terraria : still playing after 175hours

    15 euro for minecraft: still playing after 164 hours playing.

    AAA titles suck these days

  • @Zack0 however all of them inc SM have multiplayer which has no limit of time

  • @Zack0 Although I largely agree with you, but do keep in mind that not only the time spent on the game matters, but also how much you enjoyed.

  • @Ragedaonenlonely i completely agree with you.

    however playing trough the campain of warhammer space marine in sutch a short time on the hardest mode avalible in this short of a time. i admit i died a couple of times. maybe im to good maybe not but enjoying it would mean i can play the game over n over again...

  • @Zack0 you need help good sir seek a medical profesional

  • @Zack0 i still like space marine more than the other 2

  • @Zack0

    25 euros for Batman: Arkham City...25 hours

    2,5 euros for Terraria...145 hours and counting

  • @Lexustio So you're agreeing with him?

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  • @Zack0 Thats not true at all. You just compared Space Marines which is a story action game. While Terraria and Minecraft have no story and is just you either digging for 4 hours at atime or building something. What about the other AAA title Skyrim that has enough contant to play for a month and different things happen in that game instead of digging or building. Or MW3 (which I have not played yet) people put over 200 hours in that game just depends on what you like doing.

  • @ineedthis1995 i agree with you that space marine wasnt the best example.

    i played Skyrim for about 100 hours but it did coss me like 50 euro to get the game.

    thing is that most story driven game like space marine dont have any replayability.

    skyrim got rather boring once ya got a decent level and equipment (tmo)

    as for MW3 well its a shooter n thats all about the multiplayer.

  • @ineedthis1995 You obviously have not played Terraria if you think that is all there is too it.

  • @viero789 No I own and have played Terraria I put 156 hours into it. So i do know that their is more then just digging and building their just was not enough room to type everything in a 500 character limit.

  • @ineedthis1995 Oh, sorry

  • @Zack0 bad attention whore comment is bad

  • terraria 10bucks, 120houres gameplay.

  • Lol its funny how TB's attitude has changed toward Elder scrolls co.op. I remember a mailbox last year where he expressed that co-op would destroy the exploration and immersion of elder scrolls o.O

  • @Hudjiro A lot of his opinions are very much based on his mood... There was a period of time where I think he specifically tried to stir up Elder Scrolls fanboy nerdrage because he got spammed so much about making a WTF is Skyrim :P

  • @Hudjiro His opinion has changed nothing more.

  • @kallanr360 Well derp obviousely, I did not imply anything else, just thought it was "funny".

  • @Hudjiro

    Interestingly he has since learned what its like to explore terraria with jesse.

    I wonder if that has anything to do with this shift.

  • @Hudjiro Yes, it is possible for someones opinion to change. I used to hate CoD, play and enjoy it now.

  • @Hudjiro Are you sure he didn't say that online multiplayer would break exploration and immersion rather than 2-3 player co-op?

  • @Hudjiro Pretty sure you are confusing him saying it would make a horrible MMO with co-op. Two totally different things.

  • @Hudjiro I though that was just about an Elder Scrolls MMO.

  • @Hudjiro Very true, although that was before Skyrim came out, the game does feel like it would make a fun co-op.

  • There's a team of three major modding groups working on making Skyrim multi-player. One of them is the team behind the Tyranis mod which I'm pretty sure is the mod that adds the most content to the game including the ability to ride a mammoth as a mount (Not really practical, but awesome).

  • @ulkord not really with the long development cycle bethseda take it would take huge chunk out of the game to ad in a multi-player feature in the game from the beginning or it would take a much longer time for the game to come out where a lot of people don't think it is needed. Have you seen all the small random easter eggs they put in skyrim it makes the game much better if i had to choose between them and multi-player i wouldnt chose multi-player and would not play it if implemented

  • @TheNejD there already IS a multiplayer mod in beta stage so its not that hard i assume

  • @ulkord

    if you compare it too what people have done with other mods by this stage you can see how long it will take seeming as right now they have "naked slaves" that can only run around and talk via a chat and not actually interact with the game this mod could take several months to barely work and not as you would like it to. you would need to fully rewrite the engine for it to work properly and just think how buggy it is singleplayer imagine the bugs you would get in multiplayer.

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  • So certainly we could do multiplayer. Unquestionably. It's not a thing we're technically incapable of figuring out. But when we draw up the list of things we'd like to have cut or change in order to s