thanks for your template. i have built a simular one of these and yes it works. i am living on ssi now, little money but built my own cnc, and coil winder. from junk yard stuff like old rc toys. i do want to point out that tesla, coils are simple and you do need to wind the coils corectly. USE YOUR tought electronon coil thery. the right hand rule. hint! not back and forth. the windings will cancle each other out ok. send me a message ill respond.
Seeing as to resonate we need Xc & Xl to ballance then
c=Xl divided by (one on 2Pi fc)
Inductance of coil is L=un2A / l
but it would be easier to put a known voltage at a known frequency through the coil and calculate the Xl from the current Xl = Voltage / Current then L= Xl / (2 Pi F)
@ChrisPCrunchy It is easier to determine X of L using an oscillator. In fact, that's exactly how I derived it. Impedance at my target frequency is about 10 ohms.
@ZeroFossilFuel I've only just heard about you Z, you seem like a top man thank you very much for doing what you do you are educating a lot of people. I noticed you mentioned a 'reactance chart' so i googled and found myself one, thanks again :)
Gee Zero, looks like the value(not price) of oil may drop.... I think your on it!
As E. B. White once remarked, " A despot doesn't fear eloquent writers preaching freedom - he fears a drunken poet who may crack a joke that will take hold"
Keep those hho bottles popping and we may laugh our way to freedom!
@ZeroFossilFuel Great build, always look forward to your YouTube updates - good summary of your progress. Really appreciate your technical knowledge, transparent scientific approach, attention to detail and above all the objective documentation of your findings. This sets you apart from others, it will be great if you’re able to put the Muller claims to rest one way or the other. I enjoy the civil comments on your channel, sending donation your way to help pitch in for your objective efforts.
I absolutely love the build, attention to detail, and your scientific method approach. Hey Z, could you expound a little further on your decision to use the 160 turn mono filament coils as opposed to the bi-fillar and the Muller style coils? Any way, keep up the great work. I have been following the Muller dynamo for some time and the info you are presenting here has been a breath of fresh air.
this is probably out of topic, but I've been following your videos for some time now. Just wondering have you successfully made a hho generator with good results thats installed in your vehicle?
@Dslimer1 My batt cell is the best design to date but I am closely watching Hillbilly and his series stacked tube cell too. It's a hybrid of my Batt cell and HHOPWRS beasty.
Well right now everyone is chasing after the idea of resonance. However,what is the rationale behind the thought that resonance will do something special? Where does this idea come from? What are the technical reasons for resonance doing something special? Who is the person that really stated this or is this just a collective thought or guess that has become a collective "truth?" It's easy to shoot the breeze about resonance but what are the real facts about and behind it?
@User2718218 Look at any musical instrument, especially wind instruments and think to yourself, how on Earth does one get so much out with so little in?
@ZeroFossilFuel Because the musical instrument's resonating cavity is part and parcel of a power transfer system that takes the excitation power (blowing air through a reed) and turns it into sound power. When you look at the resonating cavity energy enters in at one end and heat and sound energy exit out at the other end. The rate of the energy flow through the system, i.e.; the power, is determined by the overall impedance of the system.
2nd: It's the impedance value that ultimately determines how much power flows through the system. Lower impedance means more power. It's almost were the valve is set on a water faucet. So the resonating cavity in an instrument, or in your case your replication is affecting how much power flows through the system. So playing with caps added to your coils is affecting the impedance of the motor as a whole, and where that power flows.
3rd: So if you see the rotor speeding up or slowing down when you change parameters you can assume that you are likely changing the overall electrical impedance of the motor as a whole, which means you change how much power is flowing through the motor.
That power flow either becomes waste heat or propulsive power to push the rotor to increase the RPMs and/or drive a heavier generator load at the same RPM. A series or parallel setup may increase propulsive power and reduce heat losses.
4th: The same thing applies for experimenting with series and parallel capacitor setups for the generator coils. If you generation-side configuration lowers the impedance as viewed on the generator coil + load side only, then that will increase the mechanical power draw from the rotor and slow it down. If your generation-side configuration results in a higher impedance then that will reduce the mechanical power draw from the rotor and it will speed up.
I believe during one of your live broadcast you mentioned that the AC wave was very close to DC and I have seen all of these wired as a DC generator. What determines AC or DC output on this design the size or what you intend to do with it. I would assume on a larger size it would be fully AC power or would this also be converted to DC and become a battery bank changer?
ps. I hate to be pessimist. RomeroUK stated he ran he's device for 4 hours. In case you can affrd to run it, pls do let it run for a while. ( ps: watch the black whole it will create and suck all the pesimists in )
It all seems to come back to frequency and resonance. I am surprised
on the straight bobbin coil and not the step, is the cogging about the same for both?
Your right it is getting close so will be interesting if there is any truth to those black Suburban’s. I will be following behind you with a slower build to better understand this and hopefully to help others, who like me do not have your background. Thanks for your efforts.
@Black Dog Society , I was thinking of filling up some large plastic bags, tying them to some helium filled bags, attaching some long fuse, floating them up into the night sky and listening to the thunder. Should I fill the bags with confetti?
Since I'm in Mississippi, close to Memphis - if the wind shifts to the west you could actually hear them.
One bag full of HHO, one full of helium, both with added confetti and maybe some flash-paper.. It should make for a sweet lookin explosion and one heck of a bang.
good work, was gettin a little consernd that we havent seen a video in about 2 weeks, glad all is good! Keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more about this... Also I Built a HHO system almost like yours, been playing around with it to see what the max pottential is... Thanks, you have inspired me and many others Into this world of free energy.
So, is Z saying that with the coil core magnet endcaps attached, the coil actually loses inductance and thereby increases resistance? It would interesting to be able to see the lines of force produced with the endcaps on AND with endcaps off for a visible comparison of lines of force patterns. How closely 'tuned' are each one of those cored coils and wouldn't any/all differences that have an influence of the total resonance? Interesting stuff going on Z. Thanks for sharing...
Nikola Tesla loved playing around with resonance. it can be a very powerful thing. He made an earthquake machine that could shake a building! Keep up the good work mate!
On the 1st of July, the Australian Government will begin to enforce COMPULSORY Internet censorship, ostensibly to combat on-line porn, but the infrastructure is in place to be more selective. God help us.
@rthefish - the Australians are not stupid - they will learn quickly where the best proxies are and surf their porn or other venues using a Philippines proxy just like the Chinese do - but it is an ominous sign of things to come
yeah, leave the ranting to me - but really, those of us who are incredibly lazy would benefit from from a hot link to your web site in the description - shame on you for not saving us from misspellings and poor typing skills ...
Yep, you have observed correctly. With the magnets close to the cores the inductive reactance of the coil with a ferrite core will revert back to something approaching that of an air core coil because...
The magnet saturates the magnet flux inside the ferrite core rendering it insensitive to the coercive force applied to it by the current flowing in coil.
Look up "Magnetic Amplifiers" for more information on how that works.
@syberraith One other thought is that with these types of pulse motors when run in resonance they tend to form a tank circuit. In that tank circuit there exists the potential for a lot of energy to build up and recirculate between the coils and the caps. When input power is disconnected from the motor, that stored, recirculating energy will continue to run the motor for a while. How long that is depends on the frictional and resistive losses of the motor and how efficient the back EMF
@syberraith reclamation circuitry is. This run on after input power is cut effect has lead a number of people who have built similar rotary pulse motor to conclude that they have taped into over-unity operation when infact they've just observed the energy stored in the tank circuit of the device being used up.
@syberraith Well, if that's true, I will demonstrate it and explain it in such a way as there can be little room for doubt. But I still want to see it first hand before I make any statements on it for or against.
@ZeroFossilFuel Sounds like a plan. I'm enjoying watching your meticulous build. I researched this motors years ago, although I put off building one because I got interested in the Gray Motor technology and other things, which I ended up spending my time on.
Thanks for unlocking the secrets.....
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devidjonson8989 1 month ago 3
thanks for your template. i have built a simular one of these and yes it works. i am living on ssi now, little money but built my own cnc, and coil winder. from junk yard stuff like old rc toys. i do want to point out that tesla, coils are simple and you do need to wind the coils corectly. USE YOUR tought electronon coil thery. the right hand rule. hint! not back and forth. the windings will cancle each other out ok. send me a message ill respond.
tcservices1 3 months ago
Xl = 2 Pi f l
f would = 1/ (n (number of magnets) x rpms)
Xc=1/(2Pi fc)
Seeing as to resonate we need Xc & Xl to ballance then
c=Xl divided by (one on 2Pi fc)
Inductance of coil is L=un2A / l
but it would be easier to put a known voltage at a known frequency through the coil and calculate the Xl from the current Xl = Voltage / Current then L= Xl / (2 Pi F)
Have I got this right? Its been a while.
ChrisPCrunchy 7 months ago
@ChrisPCrunchy It is easier to determine X of L using an oscillator. In fact, that's exactly how I derived it. Impedance at my target frequency is about 10 ohms.
ZeroFossilFuel 7 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel So from that you should be able to calculate exact capacitance to resonate with the inductance of your coils.
ChrisPCrunchy 7 months ago
@ChrisPCrunchy It will get you close. Problem is that variable reluctance comes into play as the rotor magnets approach and recede. Lots of tweaking.
ZeroFossilFuel 7 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel I've only just heard about you Z, you seem like a top man thank you very much for doing what you do you are educating a lot of people. I noticed you mentioned a 'reactance chart' so i googled and found myself one, thanks again :)
deepcut66 6 months ago
Gee Zero, looks like the value(not price) of oil may drop.... I think your on it!
As E. B. White once remarked, " A despot doesn't fear eloquent writers preaching freedom - he fears a drunken poet who may crack a joke that will take hold"
Keep those hho bottles popping and we may laugh our way to freedom!
BikoHatna 7 months ago
But could the motor drive under load something else for useful work and still be self running?
1NRG24Seven 8 months ago
What material are the blotchwall balancing magnets? Might they cause a different resonance frequency? Just a thought...
worthypook 8 months ago
Thanks for all you do Z !!!! Take Care
tectalabyss 8 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel Great build, always look forward to your YouTube updates - good summary of your progress. Really appreciate your technical knowledge, transparent scientific approach, attention to detail and above all the objective documentation of your findings. This sets you apart from others, it will be great if you’re able to put the Muller claims to rest one way or the other. I enjoy the civil comments on your channel, sending donation your way to help pitch in for your objective efforts.
ReasonForemost 8 months ago
Thank you! You are showing the way.
youtuubbguy66 8 months ago
I absolutely love the build, attention to detail, and your scientific method approach. Hey Z, could you expound a little further on your decision to use the 160 turn mono filament coils as opposed to the bi-fillar and the Muller style coils? Any way, keep up the great work. I have been following the Muller dynamo for some time and the info you are presenting here has been a breath of fresh air.
dennisroembke 8 months ago
It would be interesting to supercool the neodynium magnets to see the reaction on the Muller Motor
lwblack64 8 months ago
What's your website?? :P Keep it up the good work man!! LOVE this project!
bigchad007 8 months ago
this is probably out of topic, but I've been following your videos for some time now. Just wondering have you successfully made a hho generator with good results thats installed in your vehicle?
Dslimer1 8 months ago
@Dslimer1 My batt cell is the best design to date but I am closely watching Hillbilly and his series stacked tube cell too. It's a hybrid of my Batt cell and HHOPWRS beasty.
ZeroFossilFuel 8 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel
Great work!! OK where can I find Hillbilly? Tried your alt-nrg.org for a link, and Google, but with no luck.
Thanks
Jerry
ablebakerliz 8 months ago
Well right now everyone is chasing after the idea of resonance. However,what is the rationale behind the thought that resonance will do something special? Where does this idea come from? What are the technical reasons for resonance doing something special? Who is the person that really stated this or is this just a collective thought or guess that has become a collective "truth?" It's easy to shoot the breeze about resonance but what are the real facts about and behind it?
User2718218 8 months ago
@User2718218 Look at any musical instrument, especially wind instruments and think to yourself, how on Earth does one get so much out with so little in?
ZeroFossilFuel 8 months ago 4
@ZeroFossilFuel Because the musical instrument's resonating cavity is part and parcel of a power transfer system that takes the excitation power (blowing air through a reed) and turns it into sound power. When you look at the resonating cavity energy enters in at one end and heat and sound energy exit out at the other end. The rate of the energy flow through the system, i.e.; the power, is determined by the overall impedance of the system.
User2718218 8 months ago
2nd: It's the impedance value that ultimately determines how much power flows through the system. Lower impedance means more power. It's almost were the valve is set on a water faucet. So the resonating cavity in an instrument, or in your case your replication is affecting how much power flows through the system. So playing with caps added to your coils is affecting the impedance of the motor as a whole, and where that power flows.
User2718218 8 months ago
3rd: So if you see the rotor speeding up or slowing down when you change parameters you can assume that you are likely changing the overall electrical impedance of the motor as a whole, which means you change how much power is flowing through the motor.
That power flow either becomes waste heat or propulsive power to push the rotor to increase the RPMs and/or drive a heavier generator load at the same RPM. A series or parallel setup may increase propulsive power and reduce heat losses.
User2718218 8 months ago
4th: The same thing applies for experimenting with series and parallel capacitor setups for the generator coils. If you generation-side configuration lowers the impedance as viewed on the generator coil + load side only, then that will increase the mechanical power draw from the rotor and slow it down. If your generation-side configuration results in a higher impedance then that will reduce the mechanical power draw from the rotor and it will speed up.
That's all you are playing with.
User2718218 8 months ago
you seem somewhat paranoid around 7:30 :)
24065894 8 months ago
back to the future quote made me laugh. I love it. thanks!
ken25taylor 8 months ago
I believe during one of your live broadcast you mentioned that the AC wave was very close to DC and I have seen all of these wired as a DC generator. What determines AC or DC output on this design the size or what you intend to do with it. I would assume on a larger size it would be fully AC power or would this also be converted to DC and become a battery bank changer?
Tahtechlabs 8 months ago
ps. I hate to be pessimist. RomeroUK stated he ran he's device for 4 hours. In case you can affrd to run it, pls do let it run for a while. ( ps: watch the black whole it will create and suck all the pesimists in )
jozsab1 8 months ago
amg 1 you finally posted some update video. Thanks
amg 2 you should have thrown in some numbers regarding those increased peaks
jozsab1 8 months ago
It all seems to come back to frequency and resonance. I am surprised
on the straight bobbin coil and not the step, is the cogging about the same for both?
Your right it is getting close so will be interesting if there is any truth to those black Suburban’s. I will be following behind you with a slower build to better understand this and hopefully to help others, who like me do not have your background. Thanks for your efforts.
Tahtechlabs 8 months ago
Inspiring.
It's up the each one of us to save ourselves, SuperZero ~ SuperMan. :)
PoirierMike 8 months ago
You are on to something BIG Z.. im soooo looking forward to completion of this project, it ties into what i am doing in MY garage.
OneEyedCyberchicken 8 months ago
Excellent work Z (or should we call you 'Doc Zee' ?).
djmidg 8 months ago
Good news Z
Thanks for sharing.
CarbideTip 8 months ago
Z, I'll do some HHO Booms in your honer. Would a 55gal drum be big enough for you?
mikepowers420 8 months ago
@mikepowers420 --- Exploding 55 gallons on HHO!!! Wow, I might hear that all the way here in Central Arkansas!!!!
BlackDogSociety 8 months ago
@Black Dog Society , I was thinking of filling up some large plastic bags, tying them to some helium filled bags, attaching some long fuse, floating them up into the night sky and listening to the thunder. Should I fill the bags with confetti?
Since I'm in Mississippi, close to Memphis - if the wind shifts to the west you could actually hear them.
mikepowers420 8 months ago
@mikepowers420
Not with helium!!!!!! inert gas!
k4zep 8 months ago
@k4zep - more bang for the buck - so to speak..
One bag full of HHO, one full of helium, both with added confetti and maybe some flash-paper.. It should make for a sweet lookin explosion and one heck of a bang.
mikepowers420 8 months ago
@mikepowers420 LOL, Never thought of doing that...
whiterican74 8 months ago
@whiterican74 - check out Gary's rotor design. Triadic, like Rodin for the M-Motor..
mikepowers420 8 months ago
@mikepowers420 will do... thanks bro.
whiterican74 8 months ago
"Once this baby hits 88 miles per hour..you're gonna see some serious stuff" Ok Z where are you hiding the Flux Capacitor.... LOL
BlackDogSociety 8 months ago 3
whew . your right dude I was getting a bit worried. . the excitement builds . .have a great fourth
uawwildbob 8 months ago
thanks Z your the man
crafter2u 8 months ago
Unstoppable... all the best.
Pwordchernoir 8 months ago
Great to see the update , woo its going very well brilliant job.
TedFnBuckle 8 months ago
good work, was gettin a little consernd that we havent seen a video in about 2 weeks, glad all is good! Keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more about this... Also I Built a HHO system almost like yours, been playing around with it to see what the max pottential is... Thanks, you have inspired me and many others Into this world of free energy.
struebel232 8 months ago
So, is Z saying that with the coil core magnet endcaps attached, the coil actually loses inductance and thereby increases resistance? It would interesting to be able to see the lines of force produced with the endcaps on AND with endcaps off for a visible comparison of lines of force patterns. How closely 'tuned' are each one of those cored coils and wouldn't any/all differences that have an influence of the total resonance? Interesting stuff going on Z. Thanks for sharing...
lwblack64 8 months ago
Nikola Tesla loved playing around with resonance. it can be a very powerful thing. He made an earthquake machine that could shake a building! Keep up the good work mate!
lpgas1 8 months ago
Thank you, have a good 4th! And be safe! Much love! ~Russ
rwg42985 8 months ago
@rwg42985 Ps. If the rest of you get a chance please check out RWGresearch . Com
Enjoy and let's save the world! ~Russ
rwg42985 8 months ago
Good job man and have a good 4th of July.
nws7verizonnet 8 months ago
On the 1st of July, the Australian Government will begin to enforce COMPULSORY Internet censorship, ostensibly to combat on-line porn, but the infrastructure is in place to be more selective. God help us.
rthefish 8 months ago
@rthefish - the Australians are not stupid - they will learn quickly where the best proxies are and surf their porn or other venues using a Philippines proxy just like the Chinese do - but it is an ominous sign of things to come
SmartScarecrow 8 months ago
I thought you must have given up. I'm really looking forward to see how it all goes. Thanks.
cahoonu 8 months ago
I'm sure the 4th of July "shenanigans" can be over-compensated by "some of us" until you return to the water from whence you came.. lawl?
bananaphonehome 8 months ago
thx
th86stone 8 months ago
Outstanding stuff Z.
Larry
HHOPWR 8 months ago
Now all you need is a DeLorean to install it in. :-D Great work Z!! :))
lrover03 8 months ago 2
Well done, Thankyou, Goodluck , Peace
davidiom27 8 months ago
its about time
cloughax 8 months ago
yeah, leave the ranting to me - but really, those of us who are incredibly lazy would benefit from from a hot link to your web site in the description - shame on you for not saving us from misspellings and poor typing skills ...
SmartScarecrow 8 months ago 2
Yep, you have observed correctly. With the magnets close to the cores the inductive reactance of the coil with a ferrite core will revert back to something approaching that of an air core coil because...
The magnet saturates the magnet flux inside the ferrite core rendering it insensitive to the coercive force applied to it by the current flowing in coil.
Look up "Magnetic Amplifiers" for more information on how that works.
syberraith 8 months ago
@syberraith One other thought is that with these types of pulse motors when run in resonance they tend to form a tank circuit. In that tank circuit there exists the potential for a lot of energy to build up and recirculate between the coils and the caps. When input power is disconnected from the motor, that stored, recirculating energy will continue to run the motor for a while. How long that is depends on the frictional and resistive losses of the motor and how efficient the back EMF
syberraith 8 months ago
@syberraith reclamation circuitry is. This run on after input power is cut effect has lead a number of people who have built similar rotary pulse motor to conclude that they have taped into over-unity operation when infact they've just observed the energy stored in the tank circuit of the device being used up.
syberraith 8 months ago
@syberraith Well, if that's true, I will demonstrate it and explain it in such a way as there can be little room for doubt. But I still want to see it first hand before I make any statements on it for or against.
ZeroFossilFuel 8 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel Sounds like a plan. I'm enjoying watching your meticulous build. I researched this motors years ago, although I put off building one because I got interested in the Gray Motor technology and other things, which I ended up spending my time on.
Looking forward to your next installment.
Cheers.
syberraith 8 months ago