Unfortunately us white folx have had a clenzing of there own indigenousness, I see us reaching out everywhere for a connection to real earth culture. The Celtics that were killed by the first romans share a lot with the Indian culture here. Those silly hippy chicks need compassion too..it all starts with kindness and seeing how we are the same as each other, just as we are the same as this earth. These wannabees are our children trying to come home, just too excited to act right.
Here's how I see it...The white man, through massive manipulation of consciousness, is dominating the earth. White man is responsible for "fire". When fire dominates, it destroys much and many people. It also throws the earth itself out of balance. Earth mining for energy derivation and then the use of those resources, also destruction, has wreaked more than enough havoc on the earth and it's 1000s of inhabitants. This cannot stand anymore. No more consumerism! No more destruction!
What the f is up with the bob marley hipps? Any respect? I mean just a little? I can not believe that they make us white people look like total ignorant d-backs.
great job, empowerment.. some of those kids may never have ever seen the ocean.... poverty is difficult to overcome and Hopi's while culturally rich are for the most part, impoverished. And those saying white people have no culture.. well, which white people do you speak of? I am Irish and I have a wonderful ancient culture.
@smithdizzy78 Indeed! Sadly it seems many white Americans have forgotten their Pagan and Celtic origins, or indeed have never been educated about their culture and ancestors. It's a little easier for those of us in the UK for example because our ancestral history is still all around us for all to see. White people in the US could take note and research their ancestry and may learn something! The 4 races are uniting once again, let's stay positive :)
@catshez RASA- means white, nothing else (tabula rasa- white board) RASA contains 4 nation Haryjcy,Daryjcy, Swierorusy, Rusy. First two are ARYANS second two SLAVIC.
So Africans or Chinese are not rasa but nation. The word racism is simple Jewish propaganda to discredit Slavic and Aryan people
English speaking people have no chance to learn about ancestry. This part of the world are not intended to develop Slavic Aryan Vedic culture.(don't ask me why).Pegans means COUNTRY ROB - don't use it
@wlodzio47 Apologies for using a word that came about within the last 2000 years,I do know the word's origins from the Christians. I should have said Celts. There have been people on this little island for at least 13 000 years and we have ancient culture to uncover, I disagree that English speaking people cannot learn about our own culture, I myself have been studying it for 15 years.. The point I was making was that white Americans are very removed from their roots. Peace to you :)
@catshez The most important place on earth for Druids Celts and Slavs was ŚLĘŻA mountain(south west Poland).Mother Earth have12 chakras, 7of them exist on Poland territory. Ślęża is the biggest and most important. Those who control Poland then will control all planet. During Hebrew invasion on ŚLĘŻA 13000BC most Celts escape south and north an England territory.Scots are ancient Scythian's. You are my brothers and neighbors, why do you forget your original Gaelic, Yola,Slavic ancestors???
@wlodzio47 I'm not sure I understand you? I know that everyone on Earth are my brothers and sisters! I am not forgetting anyone! You commented on my comment to someone else, I was trying to explain that white people in the USA find it difficult to connect with their ancient roots because they are so far away, I was not disagreeing with anything you are saying? Be Peaceful and happy rather than defensive! Peace to you brother!
@catshez Certainly you don't understand. You just disagree that English speaking people can't learn Vedas properly. I just try to make conversation about that. Maybe this is just slightly over your head. Take care.
i am in the know and i have a hand size stone showing their prophesy stone.i have found how to become human again,i am white,i have the future .the hopi are correct.
I respect the Hopi- and their fifty years of trying to get the message across,
but airheads conning them that you share their ideals [ prophecy- wear long hair and learn their ways] so you get to hang around them, sucking off their mana like parasites, feeding your egos, i cringed for you all, shame, hula dancing during a spiritual dance lol
The only twits here are the ones who have missed the entire point in what the Hopi have tried to tell us over the last 50 years. Go to Haiti and South America and see the devestaion of the Earhtquakes they have told us about. The only peopl ewho need to get over themselves are rude idiots that have no CLue!!
I know exactly where Reuben got that water from, and those people shouldn't drink it unless they want a bad case of the runny shits! If they would have LOOKED inside that bottle BEFORE they drank it, they would have seen all kinds of swimming organisms. Coyotes shit and piss all over that spring, I would never touch that water unless I was dying of thirst, and even then, I would try to at least boil it or let it condense onto a plastic bag or something.
The Mesopotamian dogmas, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, are the only anti-nature systems known
They prevent man from ever achieving holistic balance, integration within his environment & leaves a void in 1/3rd of his being
Working for soulless corporations, man puts on a mask & thereby disconnects himself from empathy & compassion
The government that oppressed the indigenous Native American now oppresses the immigrants by devouring its people with control, conformity & onerous taxes
@mereanataki this is one of my favorite stories ! always dance in your handmade shoes ! in other words always be true to your heart and be proud of what is real and the things in your soul you have sown by hand and cherish real beauty never loos that to instant gratification and lustful pleasures. becasue when you wear the red shoes for to long they will never come back off and then the only thing you will want is the peace and truth you came into this world with. be proud of your shoes of rag
Thank you for the time you took to make the trip to Malibu. I don't know if you know it yet, but you and people like you, are changing the world. Water is life. I am of Native American decent, I was raised white only. I am trying to learn more about my ancestors, my Grandmother's world. My GG Grandmother was on the "trail of tears". I believe she escaped.
I am looking for Lance Gustsgweva. I know I probably spelled it wrong. He was my best friend in High School. He was going back to old Orabi to be a cachena. Please help me find my friend.
it is a scientific fact that water can change its shape and position when you talk to it if your negative then the water splits apart if your positive it comes back together thank you for sharing your prophecies with us i feel safer knowing the warriors are awake now i actualy pray while spraying the ground for the water to reach the people to open their eyes and bring peace to the world
Sometimes for all the seemingly wrong reasons the right connections with God Self take place anyway. Lostness can often be a gift. The reflection of a society is captured in these dynamics, read them and give thanks.
Show love for all beings searching. Give heart to what is large in the smallness, the hidden in the obvious and a soft tear will dissolve with the Love all false distance between us.
Hi, you will likely enjoy The Mayan Calandar by Ian Xel Lungold it explins the great cycles of our galaxy and thus our planet and thus us. Its a great study of a huge stone found covered in carvings explaining much, worth the watch. best
Yes, there are important teachings to be learned from the old ones, but the behavior and silly talk of the ditzy bimbos that dominated this video trivialize and detract from the words of wisdom. Their behavior is not unlike what I observe of those who suspend their reality by self-medicating with alcohol and drugs. Perhaps it is sheer desperation that the people feel that any such publicity for their valid concerns is good publicity. On to Malibu. we are going to Disneyland!
When you really start to evolve and LOVE you will find you no longer need to judge others on anything, you will just observe & take away all that is positive (which much of this is) and blow the rest away like the chaff of the grain. They are just people celebrating, exploring & experiencing life. No need to condemn or judge these are the first steps to tyranny. The ONE IS the many the many IS THE ONE> Namaste. Have you seen the secret, what the bleep do we know & you can heal your life?
To discredit discernment is foolishness! Not everyone belongs in the same realms. Just as toilet bowls and water glasses are vessels that hold things..does not mean you drink from both! SO when people say everybody accept everything....those who do...kill themeselves with the uncleanliness of those who care nothing for purity!
The behavior shows a lack of respect and is why the Hopi banned many outsiders.
Over-extended "universalism" does not give people the right to put their own stamp on someone else's culture. Hippies do this so that they can use "multiculturalism" as an experimental replacement of their own culture they rejected. How's that for non-judgemental?
@tuvoca i just wrote a comment about fast food religion the truth is white ppl have no culture .... we have no certain way of life and ppl like this are inspired by other cultures with depth and meaning and spirit ... they are a little crazy at times but they mean well and their heart is in the right place thats all that matters. they are following there own truth how is this bad. atleast they are not suits. they are moved by things of culture nothing wrong with that.
@tuvoca To be fair, white Americans haven't had much choice but to try and find their roots somehow.. The pilgrims were English separatists who had already chosen the Bible over their ancient culture so in a way white Americans were going to have a tough time finding out about where they came from before Christianity came about. The Ancient cultures of Europe have much in common with Native American systems of belief, The Hopis said it when they talk about the 4 races on the Earth. We Are One :)
this was very healing .we stooped making arts to listening in on and to observation and the peoples is so niceness
speically most the man saying
welcome with the waters and telling the lady she comes by his village town they will provider for her. it brings making the joy of healing to the heart,'eh? O ja.
this was a cool and awesome venture... just to my chagrin.. the comment from a caucasian to hopefully empower the Hopi? put me off.. but it doesn't take away from the bigger message..
If you lived our history, or our experience, you'd know exactly what I mean. but if you check it.. in there, I said overall the larger message is cool. Sheesh.. I'm one of the only indigenous people who appreciates the overall. Jump on someone else
@salishbeauty thanks for the reply - for clarification, I'm not jumping on you and I do understand what you were saying that overall it's cool. Sorry to have bothered you, was just wanting a little clarification of what annoyed you and the fact that she's white, but nevermind, to each his own.
What an eyeopener. Such beautiful people. I love what you said tallkinturtle. I will never forget it. Thank you for all of the comments all. Very moving.
There is a reaon that the Hopi have an Initiatory society. Information is imparted a litle at a time as Hopi grow older from child to adult and then elder. The villages are governed not by the tribal council but the Mongwis, each village is autonomous from each and have different stories to tell about the whole history of the people. You cannot get the whole message from just one or two or even a few
PhoenixHottie is right filming the dances was frouwned upon for a reason that the true Mongwis know. I know that people are tryng to help but after many years spent on the rez during the 80's and 90's there are things even one or 2 people may say from there that can be misleading because you need the whole story.
I am offeded by the Dhali Mama person. For some pseudoi hippie wannabee to use that Sacred title and change it for their own ego is rude. I was present at 2 meetings between the Tibetan Monks and the Mongwis of Shongopovi and Mishongnovi, it was quite an amazing experience to sit and listen to the interaction of these 2 very powerful groups of People.
@johnnygnote thjis is true this is called fast food religion most white people have no identity or culture or way so they adopt others ways... which is ok im some ways i really dont think she thought about it hippie is a way of life to and most are fast food religiouse ppl hippie is a counter culture inspired by spiritual things and cultures hipies give eachother names like sunflower and rainbow lol... honestly hippies mean well and are usually on the natives side. im sure she meant no harm lol.
I have to agree with hopigirl because of the way Ruben S. is exploiting Hopi culture. Hopi culture is one of the sacred cultures and should not be exploited like this, we keep on doing this soon Hopi will not be Hopi anymore soon we will be making money off our culture and won't be called Hopi anymore.
"bahanas, bahonas, interfering with Hopi's, Sacred ceremonies,evil white people"! Wow, I guess I'm missing something here, but I saw a group of people meet on the beach with Hopi's, and we heard some views on mother earth etc,, but wasn't this two cultures trying to connect, Is sharing a small sample of your culture really exploitation. Do you really think the average white person even has a clue at what they are looking at, when seeing a Eagle dance?
I agree,I worry about the prejudice additude toward "Evil White People". not all are evil. There are many that want to learn about the earth and how to heal her. I commend Ruben for his courage and love for Mother Earth enough to stand up for her even at the expense of much critisism form his people. A true warrior stands for the right at his own expense! Thank You Ruben Saufki for your courage and good example of a true Hopi.(The peaceful ones)
Im not putting down the message being sent...Ruben does a good representation of it. but just the way the video is laid out. Their is alot of stuff that is very sacred to Hopi people. There is some negativity toward letting the outside world view our culture with people taking photos or recording songs that are rericted and they still do it. Seeing them on internet or youtube even... I am not putting down Rubens message in this video but i think there should be caution on what is shown.
As a Hopi living in Michigan, going to MSU, I can surely tell you the mainstream commercialization of Native American culture is truly a sad state of affairs. After growing up watching Hopi dances that cannot be recorded in any way, I can certainly tell you that cultural traditions should not be showcased merely for personal gain. The powwows that they have on the east coast are all standardized, comprising all the same elements at every gathering, quite sad that hopi culture would amount tothis
The teachings of the Hopi see with clear eyes, there is only one tribe... are not all living things sacred? One is no more or less then another, secrets are for those who wish to hide, and wisdoms kept silent feed the ego. But all knowledge shared brings understanding of which wisdom is born.
@spiritlakemassacre i am white lol and i was just thinking the same most white ppl see indians as entertainment like a sideshow act ... somthing to marvel at and think oh how different its just somthing to watch this is the truth in most cases but not for me i watch videos about native americans and listen to there music every day and go to pow wows not becasue it is somthing to entertain my mind but becasue it moves me and evokes somthing in my soul that is real and truthful and wants peace
@spiritlakemassacre i just watched the whole video they are not exploiting they are admiring dont be so uptight lol... only see people enjoying eachoter and admiring their ways. they think it is beautiful whats wrong with that ? they meant well.
I think the girls are a bit ashamed for these low quality sound error :)
But nevertheless i enjoy it greatly :) thx
WeAreONEbigFamily 7 months ago
I think the girls are a bit ashamed for these low quality sound error :)
WeAreONEbigFamily 7 months ago
Unfortunately us white folx have had a clenzing of there own indigenousness, I see us reaching out everywhere for a connection to real earth culture. The Celtics that were killed by the first romans share a lot with the Indian culture here. Those silly hippy chicks need compassion too..it all starts with kindness and seeing how we are the same as each other, just as we are the same as this earth. These wannabees are our children trying to come home, just too excited to act right.
WildeHildezone 9 months ago
I wish people could just come together and say, "Enough." This country (USA) needs some serious healing. DETOX AMERICA! DETOX!
hnoss13 9 months ago
Here's how I see it...The white man, through massive manipulation of consciousness, is dominating the earth. White man is responsible for "fire". When fire dominates, it destroys much and many people. It also throws the earth itself out of balance. Earth mining for energy derivation and then the use of those resources, also destruction, has wreaked more than enough havoc on the earth and it's 1000s of inhabitants. This cannot stand anymore. No more consumerism! No more destruction!
Kostly 10 months ago
@Kostly Absolutely!!! You are spot on!
Thyalwaysseek 9 months ago
what do these white people have to teach the Hopi. It is really the other way around
P.S at the beginning they are on Navajo Bridge not Glen Canyon Dam
severevoid 10 months ago
God's will is nature figure it out it's pretty simple the unnatural is what you call free will
thinkingfour 1 year ago
i think you should give zeitgeist movement : moving forward ........ here at tzmofficialchannel ..... see what is real .... thanks for your work
makedownrecords 1 year ago
some of these hippies are lame. so very disrespectful.
rocavisual 1 year ago
now i know why they sont let outsiders in.lol
MagicalOillusions 1 year ago
I think we have misunderstood each other. Is there any need for being cruel and condescending? Have I wronged you in another life, brother?!
catshez 1 year ago
What the f is up with the bob marley hipps? Any respect? I mean just a little? I can not believe that they make us white people look like total ignorant d-backs.
Corinna7799 1 year ago
no back ground, no culture.
Phantasmos 1 year ago
great job, empowerment.. some of those kids may never have ever seen the ocean.... poverty is difficult to overcome and Hopi's while culturally rich are for the most part, impoverished. And those saying white people have no culture.. well, which white people do you speak of? I am Irish and I have a wonderful ancient culture.
smithdizzy78 1 year ago
@smithdizzy78 Indeed! Sadly it seems many white Americans have forgotten their Pagan and Celtic origins, or indeed have never been educated about their culture and ancestors. It's a little easier for those of us in the UK for example because our ancestral history is still all around us for all to see. White people in the US could take note and research their ancestry and may learn something! The 4 races are uniting once again, let's stay positive :)
catshez 1 year ago
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catshez 1 year ago
@catshez RASA- means white, nothing else (tabula rasa- white board) RASA contains 4 nation Haryjcy,Daryjcy, Swierorusy, Rusy. First two are ARYANS second two SLAVIC.
So Africans or Chinese are not rasa but nation. The word racism is simple Jewish propaganda to discredit Slavic and Aryan people
English speaking people have no chance to learn about ancestry. This part of the world are not intended to develop Slavic Aryan Vedic culture.(don't ask me why).Pegans means COUNTRY ROB - don't use it
wlodzio47 1 year ago
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catshez 1 year ago
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catshez 1 year ago
@wlodzio47 Apologies for using a word that came about within the last 2000 years,I do know the word's origins from the Christians. I should have said Celts. There have been people on this little island for at least 13 000 years and we have ancient culture to uncover, I disagree that English speaking people cannot learn about our own culture, I myself have been studying it for 15 years.. The point I was making was that white Americans are very removed from their roots. Peace to you :)
catshez 1 year ago
@catshez The most important place on earth for Druids Celts and Slavs was ŚLĘŻA mountain(south west Poland).Mother Earth have12 chakras, 7of them exist on Poland territory. Ślęża is the biggest and most important. Those who control Poland then will control all planet. During Hebrew invasion on ŚLĘŻA 13000BC most Celts escape south and north an England territory.Scots are ancient Scythian's. You are my brothers and neighbors, why do you forget your original Gaelic, Yola,Slavic ancestors???
wlodzio47 1 year ago
@wlodzio47 I'm not sure I understand you? I know that everyone on Earth are my brothers and sisters! I am not forgetting anyone! You commented on my comment to someone else, I was trying to explain that white people in the USA find it difficult to connect with their ancient roots because they are so far away, I was not disagreeing with anything you are saying? Be Peaceful and happy rather than defensive! Peace to you brother!
catshez 1 year ago
@catshez Certainly you don't understand. You just disagree that English speaking people can't learn Vedas properly. I just try to make conversation about that. Maybe this is just slightly over your head. Take care.
wlodzio47 1 year ago
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catshez 1 year ago
Poor white Americans, they don't have any ancestors and culture. They must mimic Indians.
wlodzio47 1 year ago
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catshez 1 year ago
omg are they on acid ? lmao
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
i sthis really " exploiting " tham seems like they are having fun... thouggh the whole bob marley thing seems like a put on hahaha
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
damnn im soo qlad to be hopi (:
<33
babygirl142013 1 year ago
YOU CAN SAVE THE EARTH BY NOT WATCHING THIS VIDEO
trollulzz 1 year ago
What I love about this video is seeing everyone enjoying themselves..
2005Rio 1 year ago
Johnny, get over it.
The empowerment channel? Ok. But try not to look so touristy. I like that the guy was listening to Bob Marley.
TheRaconteur333 1 year ago
"The whole One true Nation" was a bit overboard.
efeks 1 year ago
The Hopi as the one TRUE nation??? Umm, they're really cool. They have my utmost respect but aren't we ALL a true nation???
Ddzang2825 1 year ago
i am in the know and i have a hand size stone showing their prophesy stone.i have found how to become human again,i am white,i have the future .the hopi are correct.
drhoecker 1 year ago
I respect the Hopi- and their fifty years of trying to get the message across,
but airheads conning them that you share their ideals [ prophecy- wear long hair and learn their ways] so you get to hang around them, sucking off their mana like parasites, feeding your egos, i cringed for you all, shame, hula dancing during a spiritual dance lol
upussey 1 year ago
The only twits here are the ones who have missed the entire point in what the Hopi have tried to tell us over the last 50 years. Go to Haiti and South America and see the devestaion of the Earhtquakes they have told us about. The only peopl ewho need to get over themselves are rude idiots that have no CLue!!
johnnygnote 1 year ago
Only hippies would hula hoop during a dance.
Aldeez14 2 years ago 2
i though he was going to open the sea like moses did
junior1nyc 2 years ago
yeah when is your hopi powwow ? another blackfeet wants to know?
seebistoo 2 years ago
Hey when is hopi indain days. POWWOW? a blackfeet wants to know..
misshim09 2 years ago
Hopi love Bob Marley !!!! One Love.
JaxFloridaLocal 2 years ago
We're just wecycled dinosaur piss! Ha, profound, love it
tomofield 2 years ago
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ArgotMay 2 years ago
true
borotown81 2 years ago
I know exactly where Reuben got that water from, and those people shouldn't drink it unless they want a bad case of the runny shits! If they would have LOOKED inside that bottle BEFORE they drank it, they would have seen all kinds of swimming organisms. Coyotes shit and piss all over that spring, I would never touch that water unless I was dying of thirst, and even then, I would try to at least boil it or let it condense onto a plastic bag or something.
Humpahna 2 years ago
I wanna hang out with you guys. peace and much respect
peyotero22 2 years ago 2
The Mesopotamian dogmas, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, are the only anti-nature systems known
They prevent man from ever achieving holistic balance, integration within his environment & leaves a void in 1/3rd of his being
Working for soulless corporations, man puts on a mask & thereby disconnects himself from empathy & compassion
The government that oppressed the indigenous Native American now oppresses the immigrants by devouring its people with control, conformity & onerous taxes
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago 2
Bless you! We will be healed. We will grow into our true spirituality.
2manic4u 3 years ago 2
grate!
YOKOSUKACV63 3 years ago
These are some lessons learned.
Know only this, what you decide to see has no distance between the thinker and thought about. This is a sobering thought.
The drunken excesses of monetary pleasures and violent power assertionis a dis-ease of the heart. It only ends in heart failure.
Seek for what is true in your heart. So dance the dance of life without the 'red shoes' of madness.
mereanataki 3 years ago 5
@mereanataki this is one of my favorite stories ! always dance in your handmade shoes ! in other words always be true to your heart and be proud of what is real and the things in your soul you have sown by hand and cherish real beauty never loos that to instant gratification and lustful pleasures. becasue when you wear the red shoes for to long they will never come back off and then the only thing you will want is the peace and truth you came into this world with. be proud of your shoes of rag
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
Thank you for the time you took to make the trip to Malibu. I don't know if you know it yet, but you and people like you, are changing the world. Water is life. I am of Native American decent, I was raised white only. I am trying to learn more about my ancestors, my Grandmother's world. My GG Grandmother was on the "trail of tears". I believe she escaped.
jfreesprt 3 years ago
I am looking for Lance Gustsgweva. I know I probably spelled it wrong. He was my best friend in High School. He was going back to old Orabi to be a cachena. Please help me find my friend.
DobermansRock 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this video.
doda26 3 years ago
it is a scientific fact that water can change its shape and position when you talk to it if your negative then the water splits apart if your positive it comes back together thank you for sharing your prophecies with us i feel safer knowing the warriors are awake now i actualy pray while spraying the ground for the water to reach the people to open their eyes and bring peace to the world
orion588581 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
NOT pronounced hope ee. pronounced hope eye.
hopi = hope eye
hopi not= hope ee
SWAZDUDE 3 years ago
Sometimes for all the seemingly wrong reasons the right connections with God Self take place anyway. Lostness can often be a gift. The reflection of a society is captured in these dynamics, read them and give thanks.
Show love for all beings searching. Give heart to what is large in the smallness, the hidden in the obvious and a soft tear will dissolve with the Love all false distance between us.
Mereana
mereanat 3 years ago 3
Hi, you will likely enjoy The Mayan Calandar by Ian Xel Lungold it explins the great cycles of our galaxy and thus our planet and thus us. Its a great study of a huge stone found covered in carvings explaining much, worth the watch. best
SandiDinsdale 3 years ago
I am Hopi , my grandmother is from first mesa, thats pretty much all i know, have never been to the rez
tekkaman84 3 years ago 3
why havent you every been outhome, do you know what village you are from or what clan?
hopigirl 3 years ago
wow that is cool
adam4202006 3 years ago
my so'oh is from Moenkopi.. we go up as much as possible.. we live in phx... i'm sun clan.. i wish i lived up there....
dozamen3 3 years ago
dozamen3 - I'm Kerri, I love the Hopi's, plan to visit again soon, I hope there is peace in the mesas!
kutekerri 3 years ago 2
What a mockery.
Yes, there are important teachings to be learned from the old ones, but the behavior and silly talk of the ditzy bimbos that dominated this video trivialize and detract from the words of wisdom. Their behavior is not unlike what I observe of those who suspend their reality by self-medicating with alcohol and drugs. Perhaps it is sheer desperation that the people feel that any such publicity for their valid concerns is good publicity. On to Malibu. we are going to Disneyland!
7863547 3 years ago 2
When you really start to evolve and LOVE you will find you no longer need to judge others on anything, you will just observe & take away all that is positive (which much of this is) and blow the rest away like the chaff of the grain. They are just people celebrating, exploring & experiencing life. No need to condemn or judge these are the first steps to tyranny. The ONE IS the many the many IS THE ONE> Namaste. Have you seen the secret, what the bleep do we know & you can heal your life?
SandiDinsdale 3 years ago
To discredit discernment is foolishness! Not everyone belongs in the same realms. Just as toilet bowls and water glasses are vessels that hold things..does not mean you drink from both! SO when people say everybody accept everything....those who do...kill themeselves with the uncleanliness of those who care nothing for purity!
enjoixander 3 years ago 2
The behavior shows a lack of respect and is why the Hopi banned many outsiders.
Over-extended "universalism" does not give people the right to put their own stamp on someone else's culture. Hippies do this so that they can use "multiculturalism" as an experimental replacement of their own culture they rejected. How's that for non-judgemental?
tuvoca 2 years ago 12
i agree.
akiswired 2 years ago
We've been invited back several times and have built homes on Shungopovi. Hmmmm.....I guess they weren't too offended.
empowerment 1 year ago
@tuvoca i just wrote a comment about fast food religion the truth is white ppl have no culture .... we have no certain way of life and ppl like this are inspired by other cultures with depth and meaning and spirit ... they are a little crazy at times but they mean well and their heart is in the right place thats all that matters. they are following there own truth how is this bad. atleast they are not suits. they are moved by things of culture nothing wrong with that.
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
@tuvoca To be fair, white Americans haven't had much choice but to try and find their roots somehow.. The pilgrims were English separatists who had already chosen the Bible over their ancient culture so in a way white Americans were going to have a tough time finding out about where they came from before Christianity came about. The Ancient cultures of Europe have much in common with Native American systems of belief, The Hopis said it when they talk about the 4 races on the Earth. We Are One :)
catshez 1 year ago
WOW! hopi indians, hippie busses and bob marley music! THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT!!!beautiful video, empowering and helpful.
littlewaitress 3 years ago 3
ani't it
adam4202006 3 years ago
this was very healing .we stooped making arts to listening in on and to observation and the peoples is so niceness
speically most the man saying
welcome with the waters and telling the lady she comes by his village town they will provider for her. it brings making the joy of healing to the heart,'eh? O ja.
unmaskedartist 3 years ago
this was a cool and awesome venture... just to my chagrin.. the comment from a caucasian to hopefully empower the Hopi? put me off.. but it doesn't take away from the bigger message..
so yah
cool
salishbeauty 4 years ago
pohanas!
youbusta13 4 years ago
The comment was meant to empower the Hopi message....Hmmm. so negetative. No good deed goes unpunished.
empowerment 1 year ago
@salishbeauty ya not sure what she meant by that
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
@salishbeauty - why would it put you off? - because she is white? or because she is simply stating what they are all gathering to do?
radha73 1 year ago
@radha73
If you lived our history, or our experience, you'd know exactly what I mean. but if you check it.. in there, I said overall the larger message is cool. Sheesh.. I'm one of the only indigenous people who appreciates the overall. Jump on someone else
salishbeauty 1 year ago
@salishbeauty thanks for the reply - for clarification, I'm not jumping on you and I do understand what you were saying that overall it's cool. Sorry to have bothered you, was just wanting a little clarification of what annoyed you and the fact that she's white, but nevermind, to each his own.
radha73 1 year ago
So much to learn. Open hearts, open eyes. We recieve the blessings from Spirit to all.
danae53 4 years ago
Thanks for sharing
armoniamg59 4 years ago
What an eyeopener. Such beautiful people. I love what you said tallkinturtle. I will never forget it. Thank you for all of the comments all. Very moving.
GypsyJana 4 years ago
There is a reaon that the Hopi have an Initiatory society. Information is imparted a litle at a time as Hopi grow older from child to adult and then elder. The villages are governed not by the tribal council but the Mongwis, each village is autonomous from each and have different stories to tell about the whole history of the people. You cannot get the whole message from just one or two or even a few
johnnygnote 4 years ago
PhoenixHottie is right filming the dances was frouwned upon for a reason that the true Mongwis know. I know that people are tryng to help but after many years spent on the rez during the 80's and 90's there are things even one or 2 people may say from there that can be misleading because you need the whole story.
johnnygnote 4 years ago
I am offeded by the Dhali Mama person. For some pseudoi hippie wannabee to use that Sacred title and change it for their own ego is rude. I was present at 2 meetings between the Tibetan Monks and the Mongwis of Shongopovi and Mishongnovi, it was quite an amazing experience to sit and listen to the interaction of these 2 very powerful groups of People.
johnnygnote 4 years ago
If the Dali Lama saw her, he'd probably laugh. He's not an uptight twit.
empowerment 1 year ago 4
@empowerment hahaha this is true
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
@empowerment That's funny and probably true
WildeHildezone 9 months ago
@johnnygnote thjis is true this is called fast food religion most white people have no identity or culture or way so they adopt others ways... which is ok im some ways i really dont think she thought about it hippie is a way of life to and most are fast food religiouse ppl hippie is a counter culture inspired by spiritual things and cultures hipies give eachother names like sunflower and rainbow lol... honestly hippies mean well and are usually on the natives side. im sure she meant no harm lol.
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
our clouds should stay over hopi and help bring rain.
nautistee 4 years ago
Whats a bahana?? Peace :)
HineTuAtchU 4 years ago
I have to agree with hopigirl because of the way Ruben S. is exploiting Hopi culture. Hopi culture is one of the sacred cultures and should not be exploited like this, we keep on doing this soon Hopi will not be Hopi anymore soon we will be making money off our culture and won't be called Hopi anymore.
coyoteskin 4 years ago
He's not making money.....trying to save the earth.
empowerment 4 years ago
"bahanas, bahonas, interfering with Hopi's, Sacred ceremonies,evil white people"! Wow, I guess I'm missing something here, but I saw a group of people meet on the beach with Hopi's, and we heard some views on mother earth etc,, but wasn't this two cultures trying to connect, Is sharing a small sample of your culture really exploitation. Do you really think the average white person even has a clue at what they are looking at, when seeing a Eagle dance?
jbseven7 4 years ago
I agree,I worry about the prejudice additude toward "Evil White People". not all are evil. There are many that want to learn about the earth and how to heal her. I commend Ruben for his courage and love for Mother Earth enough to stand up for her even at the expense of much critisism form his people. A true warrior stands for the right at his own expense! Thank You Ruben Saufki for your courage and good example of a true Hopi.(The peaceful ones)
empowerment 4 years ago
Im not putting down the message being sent...Ruben does a good representation of it. but just the way the video is laid out. Their is alot of stuff that is very sacred to Hopi people. There is some negativity toward letting the outside world view our culture with people taking photos or recording songs that are rericted and they still do it. Seeing them on internet or youtube even... I am not putting down Rubens message in this video but i think there should be caution on what is shown.
hopigirl 4 years ago
pohanas
youbusta13 4 years ago
As a Hopi living in Michigan, going to MSU, I can surely tell you the mainstream commercialization of Native American culture is truly a sad state of affairs. After growing up watching Hopi dances that cannot be recorded in any way, I can certainly tell you that cultural traditions should not be showcased merely for personal gain. The powwows that they have on the east coast are all standardized, comprising all the same elements at every gathering, quite sad that hopi culture would amount tothis
SolipsisticElixir 3 years ago 3
Seems like these bahanas just make it feel really fake to me. Which is saying something since im hopi
hopigirl 4 years ago
These Bahanas need to stick to their own ways of living and stop interfering with the hopis. The hopis need to keep these ceremonies sacred.
Waldoxxig88 4 years ago
The teachings of the Hopi see with clear eyes, there is only one tribe... are not all living things sacred? One is no more or less then another, secrets are for those who wish to hide, and wisdoms kept silent feed the ego. But all knowledge shared brings understanding of which wisdom is born.
talkinturtle 4 years ago 3
i know these bahonas
pheonixhotte07 4 years ago
yea hopis rule.they need to stop recording this dance.you are not allowed to record this dance
pheonixhotte07 4 years ago
These are exploiters who are stealing Hopi ways. I am Hunkpati Dakota and I will do my best to thwart these white people who are evil.
spiritlakemassacre 4 years ago
Oh please, get over yourselbves!!!
empowerment 1 year ago 2
@empowerment and so how exactly did you empower these people?
you are the ones that really need to get over yourselves... what a joke; you obviously have no true respect for anything of value.
EchoTarpeian 1 year ago
@spiritlakemassacre i am white lol and i was just thinking the same most white ppl see indians as entertainment like a sideshow act ... somthing to marvel at and think oh how different its just somthing to watch this is the truth in most cases but not for me i watch videos about native americans and listen to there music every day and go to pow wows not becasue it is somthing to entertain my mind but becasue it moves me and evokes somthing in my soul that is real and truthful and wants peace
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
@spiritlakemassacre i just watched the whole video they are not exploiting they are admiring dont be so uptight lol... only see people enjoying eachoter and admiring their ways. they think it is beautiful whats wrong with that ? they meant well.
simplegrl11589 1 year ago
@spiritlakemassacre Everything what Am. Indians know they learn from "White Gods" . Today you forget appreciation.
I think ayahuaska , alcohol , and your demonic nature speak for yourself.
wlodzio47 1 year ago
nice! loved this subject!
daflew 4 years ago