.45ACP V Phonebook

[DickieM92]

i need some those phonebooks. i could probably make a vest webbing outta sheets and put some books in it lol

[heretic1915]

i havnt seen one like that sense the 90's

[redneck500]

Phone books make great cheap armor!

[BansheeArms]

Cool!

[nuttyape]

FUCK YOU PHONE BOOK >:D

[hotdogman67]

@nuttyape

Lol

[TuAFFalcon]

Did you Recycle that book afterwards?

[bllw69]

Check out my tests of the .45acp with phone books. I had them tight against a board.

[supressorgrid]

The proper way to remove your name from the phone book.

[aanathan0]

lol caliber doesnt matter if i shoot you twice in the heart and once in the head.

[saatty1]

.45 all the way baby

[labartic]

All depends on the exact location hit, and the mental state of the person who has been shot. I knew of a cop who shot a 100lb woman 3 times, point blank in the chest, and she was still trying to stab him to death.

45acp does not always = incapacitated person

[jeeprat]

No not one round went through they all bounced off

[TheDoomSquid]

@jeeprat You don't want the bullet to go through on a man stopper. A bullet flattening out and stopping dead inside someone's guts is what you want if it's a life or death situation.

[johchino1]

did it go thru?

[Eagen007]

I love my .45

[johnson2324]

1st missed, lol!

[Deathrune456]

they would feel their lungs deflating,lol

[hemiram04]

Yeah a .45 may be fat and slow but people forget the reason it's so deadly towards humans is because you bleed out really fast from the large caliber hole.

[labartic]

google image search for wound channel ballistics handgun calibers. Youll see the difference between a 9mm, 40sw, and 45acp hollow points isnt that huge. But yeah, greater the size of the hole, the better chance you hit a vital organ.

But a .45 is not a one shot stopper, nor does it knock people off their feet like many believe. Rule to live by, shoot until they fall down, whatever caliber you have.

[JSM10069]

In a defensive situation, I'd still rather be shooting a .45 than a 9mm. And my Glock 21 is very accurate to shoot with very manageable recoil. When your chips are down, you want something to help tip the scales in your favor. I just don't think any 9mm is going to pack the same energy or create the same wound channel as a Corbon 185 grain .45 ACP JHP +P.

[labartic]

There are infinite variables, the point is that a 9mm hollow point is sufficient to stop someone just as a 45acp is. Then again so is a 22lr

Training is the largest factor I believe. Navy Seals are issued 9mm pistols and use MP5's in 9mm. So obviously the 9mm works.

I just get tired of hearing about how its weak/cant kill anyone. I have heard of cops shooting 90lb women multiple times with 45acp and not dropping them (in the chest too) so theres a lot of variables.

[JSM10069]

I thought the Navy Seals were issued 9mm because it was a NATO standard - not because it's more effective. They are also required to shoot only FMJ, which most people agree is much less effective than JHP.

Do you have any references on these 90lb women being shot multiple times in the chest and still walking? Your arguments would carry more weight if you backed them up with a fact or two.

[labartic]

Navy Seals will kill you just as dead with a 9mm as they would a 45, thats my point. If you get shot in the heart and head with a 9mm, it doesnt matter, youre still dead.

As far as the guy shooting the 90lb woman point blank in the chest with the 45, it was on the Reno police dept and the person who told me about it was a 23 year police investigator I know personally. I dont have any documents about the situation, but it did occur.

Its simple, it comes down to stopping blood flow to brain.

[labartic]

Im a 170lb person, not very heavy. But if you dont shoot me in an area that makes it physically impossible to fight, I will still be able to fight until I lose enough blood that I pass out. Simple as that.

3 things stop people 100% of the time.

Hit to brain.

Hit to heart (within seconds)

Hit to spine.

Anything other than that and a human being can still resist until they pass out from blood loss. So 9mm or 45, it isnt that big of a difference against a motivated opponent.

[JSM10069]

But didn't the FBI Miami Shootout of 1986 demonstrate that .38 special and 9mm weren't adequate stoppers and prompt the FBI to search for a larger caliber with better ballistics?

[labartic]

You fail to prove a point here. The 9mm bullet stopped short of hitting his heart, yes. But a .45ACP has worse penetration than a 9mm.

The FBI then had the 10mm auto made, which is a 'magnum' caliber for semi autos. This is an awesome man stopper, producing great ballistics, sadly the recoil is too severe for most.

Police still carry 9mm and 38back up snub nose,so obviously the conclusion drawn wasnt that 9mm is not lethal.

When shooting through glass,doors, clothing, performance suffers

[Blanckmeister]

Loaded with FMJs, I have seen .45 acp pass completely through ballistic gelatin, 3 layers of fabric, a wooden plank, and a concrete block, over 36 in. of penetration, and the bullet was never recovered. If you need more penetration than that, you should probably be using a rifle.

[KurNorock]

I don't believe a word of what you just said.

[labartic]

sounds like bullshit. a 45 loses energy pretty quickly.

[KurNorock]

The recoil of the 10mm isn't bad at all. The real reason they reduced the load (so called FBI lite) was because the original 10mm gun was a POS and was being battered by the round. S&W later figured they could load the FBI Lite in a shorter case, making the grip smaller (another complaint of smaller FBI agents) and developed the .40S&W.

[labartic]

Yeah I heard the guns would fall apart under the recoil of the 10mm. I think it is a very good round, but personally I get tired of practicing more than a few mags of 10mm because of the snappy recoil. Then again, I only tried it in a glock, and those fit very poorly in my hand.

A 40SW will have to do for me.

[KurNorock]

I used to know a guy who did autopsies on cadavers donated to science. A lot of the bodies were victims of gun shots. He has seen a lot of 9mm rounds that were stopped by ribs or only penetrated 1 or inches after going through heavy clothing or a pocket full of keys or change.

[Blanckmeister]

those 9mm rounds probably came from .380acp cases.

[KurNorock]

Not at 125grains they didn't. You would be hard pressed to find a .380 round topped with anything more than 95grain bullets.

Besides that, each cadaver had a cause of death listed in the paper work. My friend only knew what size the bullet was because the specific gun used was listed.

[Blanckmeister]

I stand corrected. As far as the .45 goes though, certain loads will penetrate more than you would think. A 230 grain bullet will penetrate considerably more once it hits 1000-1100 fps as opposed to military ball ammo at 700-800 fps. Look up ballistic gelatin tests. I like 9mm for target use because its cheap and plentiful, but a hot loaded .45 will kill bear.

[KurNorock]

If you get a 230g bullet much more than 1000 fps out of a .45acp you are REALLY pushing it. But yes you are right, a heavier/faster bullet will penetrate more, but that isn't the whole story.

You have to take into account sectional density too. A 230g .30 cal bullet will penetrate MUCH more than a 230g .45 cal bullet at the same speed. Simply a matter of more mass behind a smaller profile. Less resistance.

[KurNorock]

A hot loaded .45 might kill a bear if the shot is well placed, but I wouldn't count on that in a real defense situation, (against bears anyway)

The .45 is a great caliber for defense against humans. But it does behave differently than the 9mm.

That is why it is very important to practice with your defense load and weapon.

You can't assume that because you can stay on target with your 9mm that you can do it with your .45 as well.

[dan9595]

You will bleed to death a lot faster if you are hit with a .45, than if you were hit in the same spot with a 9mm. The bigger the hole, the more blood you will lose.

[labartic]

@dan9595 You will bleed to death faster if youre hit with a .50AE, so should everyone carry desert eagles?

Why not have everyone just carry rocket launchers, they cause a lot of blood loss.

[soheifox]

The kick on an Action Express is SIGNIFICANTLY more then the .45acp. No sane person would try to use that as a sidearm; in fact the weapon serves almost no use whatsoever. (Least of all the feeding/jamming issues)

Honestly for any situation you run into the 9mm will be fine. I personally carry a .45, but I am a taller, well built man so it's recoil is nothing to me. I would never feel undergunned with a 9mm; or even a .22 Magnum in fact. .25ACP and .22lr... those are undergunned though.

[KurNorock]

Try the 10mm. You won't be disappointed.

The defense loads actually expand more than most .45 acp will ever dream and they are traveling anywhere from 40%-70% faster.

[penguinskater123]

oh yes another person who thinks they know about ballistics but have never accuatly tested it now how do you know you would bleed to death faster?? i mean the .45 and the 9mm are different just by fractions of a cm so why would you bleed faster? now prove it

[KurNorock]

You are making the mistake of thinking in terms of linear diameter. The real size of a hole is measured in area. For example:

A 2 inch wide hole has a surface area of 3.14in^2

A 1 inch wide hole has a surface area of .785in^2

So as you can see the 2 inch wide hole is actually 4 times the size of the 1 inch hole.

A 9mm hole has an area of .11in^2

A .45 hole has an area of .16in^2

That is 69% MORE room for blood to flow out of the body.

[penguinskater123]

can you break that down im only at algebra 1 im only 13

[KurNorock]

This stuff is basic math.... unless you are confused by the ^ symbol.. In means squared. You know, 3.14 square inches, .785 square inches.

Anyway, what I am saying is a hole made by a .45 bullet will be about 2/3 bigger than a hole made by a 9mm bullet. So a hole made by a .45 will allow room for 2/3 more blood to pour out.

[penguinskater123]

yea i was confused by the symbol thanks now i understand (got a calculator :P ) good explanation but imagine 6 pipes all with water connecting to a 6 piece center then to give it more sense 9m are cut back from the center of the pipe the same around of water would flow out and the cut back pipes but imagine a 45 inch hole the same amount of water would come out but it has a bigger possibility to hit more vessels arteries and veins so good point

[Darklycan369]

Thank you, captain obvious.

[KurNorock]

There is a huge difference between stopping power and killing power. Of course a kill is the most effective way to stop a person, but think of it like this;

Cancer has a high killing power, but almost no immediate stopping power, conversely, a tackle from a 6'6 linebacker can have a ton of stopping power, but not a lot of killing power.

39 times out of 40, the one thing that stops an attacker in his tracks is the sight of the gun you just drew.

[KurNorock]

After that, if they are still trying to attack you or your loved one, the switch to killing power must be made or it is likely they will not stop.

[labartic]

When youre talking about bullets, people identify "stopping power" as the ability for one shot to stop the attacker and put him to the ground. Maybe it will kill, maybe not, but if it ceases the aggressive action then that has stopped the threat.

We arent talking about cancer and we arent talking about football. If you take a 357 mag in the chest and you fall to the ground, without medical treatment youre going to be killed.

A 9mm is lethal enough. A 10mm can even fail to kill. Placement

[KurNorock]

Well I know we aren't talking about cancer or football. Those are just examples of the difference between stopping power and killing power. And stopping power does not have to have your attacker on the ground. If they turn and run away, they are stopped. If they simply stand there unharmed with their arms up, they are stopped.

[KurNorock]

yes, any bullet is lethal with proper placement. But do you really want to rely on pin point accuracy in a life or death situation? I'd rather have some margin for error in the form of a larger, faster, bullet.

There is a reason you don't hunt elk with a .223. Sure you could kill it, but it would take forever for it to bleed out and die. By that time it could be miles away.

Same with people. Use the most powerful gun you can handle confidently.

[labartic]

You said 39 out of 40 times just displaying a gun will stop someone. So why not just carry a 9mm when just displaying it will stop someone. Since thats your definition of stopping power.

Trust me, the ACTUAL meaning of stopping power is the ability for a 1 shot incapacitation. Not making someone stand there with their hands up.

Youre .223 vs elk example is another totally worthless comparison. We arent going to be having gun battles with giant elk or we would all use 300 win mag

[KurNorock]

Obviously the art of the metaphor is lost on you. I never implied we should have gun battles with an elk. My point was that just because you CAN kill a person with a 9mm does not mean it is enough gun to do the job reliably. Larger calibers are inherently better man-stoppers than smaller ones.

Your 'actual' meaning is not stopping power, it is killing power. My whole point was to explain the difference between the two.

[KurNorock]

Just listen to the words you are using. STOPping power. The power to stop. Anything that makes your attacker stop his attack is a function of your ability to stop him/her, IE. stopping power.

Sure, killing somebody with a bullet to the brain is definitely going to stop them, but I never said killing power and stopping power were mutually exclusive. just that there is a difference.

[KurNorock]

Obviously we are talking about the use of a gun in self defense. A situation, depending on your environment, that has a very rare chance of happening in the first place. We carry guns to protect ourselves in that unlikely event.

More often than not simply displaying a gun will stop most attackers. But we have already confirmed we are not trying to play the odds here. We know that not every person will stop at the sight of a gun, which is why you need something effective for if they don't.

[KurNorock]

That is why we don't just carry any old gun. Just in case we do have to use it, it must be effective, and on the list of most effective personal defense calibers, the 9mm is pretty near the bottom.

[MrAmericanAce]

Every hand gun even the .45 10mm and 50 ae are near the bottom. For example, throwingbuckshot in a 20 guage shotgun provides 3 times the power of a single .44 magnum. handguns are always over rated.

[KurNorock]

I wasn't talking about a list of overall power. I was talking about the power of reasonable personal defense calibers.

Sure, home defense, out in the wilderness, if you want to use a shotgun, fine. But as far as walking around town, or even out in bear country, I wouldn't trust a 9mm or .380 as much as a larger caliber.

Once you get into .44mag or .50 territory, you are covered as far as north america is concerned.

[sonny7863]

hush yo face

can you put a 20 gauge in yo back pocket legally???

i think not

[labartic]

Kurnorock I dont know who you are but you have it all wrong, youre a moron and I am done wasting my time with you.

[KurNorock]

Generally, when you are debating somebody and suddenly they stop and say "You are a moron and a waste of my time" that means they know you've proven them wrong, but they don't have the fortitude to admit it.

Of course, maybe I really am a moron? Who knows?

[hollowpoint10mm]

i need a lil help, which caliber is more accurate, .40 or 9mm because i have narrowed it down to them 2. your help would be much appreciated

[JSM10069]

They are both very accurate and quite frankly are more accurate than you'll probably ever make use of. If your goal is to be as sharp of a shooter as possible, then I would recommend the 9mm. The 9mm is very easy to shoot and much cheaper than 40 caliber (so you can afford to practice more). I live in the Dallas-Ft Worth area, and .40 caliber is not always easy to find, and when you do it's very expensive.

[baconator490]

if your just looking for target shooting 9mm is best choice but if your looking for a concealed sidearm or for home defense go for a .45 with hollow points

[jbsegrest]

Either is plenty accurate for a defensive pistol. In a quality gun a decent shooter can make head shots to 25+ yards and center mass hits to 50+ with a 9mm or a 40. .40 can be more difficult to shoot for recoil sensitive shooters. It's considered "snappier" than .45 or 9 mil, so you may be more prone to developing a flinch shooting it. Find a range where you can rent both and compare for yourself.

[tuttoz]

its all about the individuals will to live .... marine snipers repidetly tell storys on how theyr spotters and themselfs were able to confirm hits on vitals areas and still the targets were able to run away ....

[evilEKegg]

Thats because the .308 they were useing loses it's oomph af 600m+ .....had it been a 338 Lapua or .50 cal...will to live would have been irrelivent

[tuttoz]

tru ... and better ammo......only if hunting bullets were legal in the military,

[gogetemson]

well im not a phone book so im not too worried after seeing this

[KoRnItUp666]

Did any of those shots penetrate?

[jeeprat]

every single one

[Pinoysolja7]

What ammo did you used?

[jeeprat]

I used lead RN the cheapest plinking ammo I could get

[Pinoysolja7]

tell me about it lol. Ammos are so hard to find nowadays cuz of the gov. raising everything. Have you tried hollow point? if so, then which one has a better penetration?

[jeeprat]

Im in Ontario Canada we have no prob getting ammo so far.... I have never tried hollow points. A perp has to be very determined to keep going after a hit or two with a .45 . If I was using a 9mm I would use hollow points for sure

[DXsukIT]

no such thing as a cheap .45 acp :) they are so dreaaaaammmmyyy .... id like to see some homie with his glock vs. a beauty such as this!

[jeeprat]

Well not cheap ...I pay $13 per 50.. rounds...tax inc... deliverd to the door ....min 500 rounds

[ViperQc]

At what store?

[p3erf80g4949]

yeah lol... i v'e fired one you better get another 5 maybe six to really start to slow it down

[motlencore89]

Everybody knows the 9mm is the choice of most police officers, but when it comes to the penetration of a 45acp, thats when the comotion starts!!!

[sykop8ntballer]

The Police usualy cary 9mms because that's what their department issues, and many officers don't care to go shell out a grand for a nice side arm. Never trust a pistol calliber that dosen't start with a 4 or higher!

[Opste]

I i agree!!!!

[jawbreaker480]

@sykop8ntballer

dude why is your stupid comment rated the highest?

[sykop8ntballer]

@jawbreaker480 Because I'm better than you.

[jawbreaker480]

@sykop8ntballer lol not anymore

i used my super powers to rate down your comment lol

[Bigp426]

Okay, you're ass backwards. 9mm is by far not the choice of police, it is standard issue because its generally cheaper.

Secondly, the FBI is going over to .40, which again shows it isn't the choice.

And thirdly, a 9mm has more penetration than a .45. The point of the .45 is that it is a large subsonic round, that will put you down, not penetrate and go through you... thats a 9mm's job.

[zman6033]

you are right the military is complaing about the stoping power of the 9mm that are issued to them

[Bigp426]

oh yeah, all of the insurgents are getting doped up and don't feel a thing; keep running right into the fire. I want to see at least .40 S&W over there, hopefully .45 though. Especially considering I'm training my ass off preparing for the Marine Corps.

[DaOneAndOnly3]

Marines are currently arguing to swap to a 45. Sadly not a 1911 but instead a SpringField XD-45. Although I do believe MARSOC is using the 1911? Correct me if I'm wrong but Force Reconnaissance did use it.

[Bigp426]

Force Recon still uses a .45, and I'm pretty sure its off of the 1911 frame with simple modifications.

Which is why I'm surprised to learn that they weren't going to 1911. Do you know why they aren't?

[DaOneAndOnly3]

I'm not entirely sure, and also it hasn't been confirmed that they will use the XD-45. But in my magazine "The Marine Corps Gazette" it states the idea about switching to a 45, preferably the XD. I can't see why they wouldn't get the 1911 since they already have all those Safariland 6004's.

[Bigp426]

Yeah, in my mind its a clear decision, but I guess the politics are taking away from logic at this point haha.

[tidemandave]

Probably because that is what the M9/92F pistol replaced. They don't want the egg on their face of going back to the pistol they argued to replace. Most pistol shooters will tell you 1911 is hard to beat.

[Bigp426]

Yeah, I think pride has a lot to do with it, and they don't want to admit they were wrong. I prefer a 1911 myself.

[DaOneAndOnly3]

Yea that is very true. I really dont understand NATO. A 45 is a great bullet but when it comes out of a 1911 it's even better. Haha

[PigHunter375]

Agreed, the .45 ACP chambered in any decent semi-auto pistol will always be close to the top of the list when it comes to personal defense.

[dave23malyud]

YES!! the MEU 1911 .45 I have one personally given by the Gunny at the chief armorers at quantico. VA

[italianbadboy17]

hahaha thats hilarious nice shootin

[brentfoto]

unimpressive

[jeeprat]

why unimpressive

[brentfoto]

Nothing scientific about the test to show penetration or expansion of each round. I could probably shoot a .22 or .32 and display a similar result. A .45 is supposed to be the ultimate man-stopper as far as handgun rounds go. Next time soak some newspapers for 24 hours, drain for half hour, and shoot your .45 rounds in it. Then  report back. Sorry, JMHO about your video.

[jeeprat]

I thought about doing another clip with a phone book that had been tied up and soaked in water. I think you should try and shoot a phone book with a .22 or .32 or even a 9mm and see how well they do . I would like to see your clips on youtube

[brentfoto]

I don't have a video camera, only trying to help you do a meaningful test. A well-known gun writer does the wet newspaper test and can compare results somewhat to 10% ballistic gelatin without going to the great time and expense of conducting your own gelatin tests.

[brentfoto]

And you can always go to 'brassfetcher' dot com.

[rickoshaycomics]

.45 ACP - it makes confetti

[hinduw]

learn to shoot straight

[evilby]

terrible. just think of the book as some guy's body. Just one shot to get killed or handicapped. It is so fake that in the movies when some guy took a bullet, he can still move...God bless policemen in America.

[Shittywaffles]

I think the policemen know what you are talking about. Thats why they usually expend 50-100 rounds per target, regardless of whether they are actually hitting them or the schoolchildren two blocks down the road.

[Tiuri28]

wtf, you guys can just buy guns in your country! down here we need a liscence or have to be a cop or something

[Shittywaffles]

yeah the right to "Bear arms" is a main part of our Constitution, stemming from 200 years ago when everybody owned firearms because they couldn't go to the store and buy a steak. But our current government seems to work hard at restricting and sometimes trying to take that right away from us.

[JustOneGunner]

And to protect themselves...

The amendment's there so the populace can overthrow the government if it gets corrupt.

[Shittywaffles]

the government is already corrupt. Has been for a while now. Good luck overthrowing it with your semi auto small arms, no grenades, no armor, no fighter planes, no organization or training, and no will to actually accept the fact that the government is indeed corrupt.

[JustOneGunner]

I was stating the reasoning behind the amendment -- not my personal beliefs.

1) Semi-automatic small arms are the best kind for infantry warfare, period.

2) Grenade substitutes are easy to make.

3) Body armor is legal to buy in America.

4) I DO have training, ignorant prick.

5) Why do you think I love firearms? That's right -- because I think my politicians are corrupt.

[Shittywaffles]

what about fighter planes, tanks, command structure, recruitment? I mean if you are serious about this I will do anything I can to help out.

[JustOneGunner]

Go be a liberal elsewhere, please.

[cjshull]

you're failing to realize the military is pretty damn sympathetic to these ideals.

And to clarify justone - Fully automatic small arms are also legal, you just have to pay the tax on it. Grenades are legal to purchase as well, and is body armor. Decommissioned tanks are available if you have the money, no modern service tanks though. And planes are just a few modifications aware from being used for bombs.

[Nerfball6]

@Shittywaffles I think you forget the fact that members of the military take an oath to first and foremost defend the Constitution of the United States even against the orders of the President if they are constitutional or illegal. Couple that with millions of armed citizens (many who are veterans with military training) and any president or other governmental entity with desires to become tyrannical should be nervous about going that route. This is why the founders protected that right.

[Nerfball6]

@Shittywaffles Actually, it had far more to do with protection from a tyrannical government and the right to self defense than hunting. read the founders' writings on the subject.

[Nerfball6]

@Tiuri28 Yes we can. Our founders understood that self defense and the right to bear arms is an inalienable right.

[scubaguy007]

So that's what those phone books are for! I always wondered why they seemed to crawl up to my front porch, they want to die!

[OliRancidTen]

fuck me, imagine if that was your face...

[pentogram23]

LET YOUR FINGERS DO THE WALKING...ok

[smartestmanalive101]

lame video

[Birch00112]

well wut are they going to do hold up sheets of paper its a fuking idea and it wud probley work a bit not every gun is shooting the same round

[Kroenen81]

A disillusioned telemarketer?

[PARR53]

I think some of these comments are ridiculous the bullets are clearly and easily penetrating and blowing huge exit holes out the back of the phone book.

[evilby]

yeah exactly. because they didn't notice that the bullets were from the right direction then went through and out from the left, leaving big holes on the phone book. That's what they mean by going in with only a little wound, comming out with a large piece of flesh and bone. truely terrible...

[lawrenceisapimp]

they should make phone book body armor

[stupidmonkey93]

LOL i agree

[noesomhelst]

no they shouldnt! i shot my rifle at 6 phoneboks and it penetraded. they dont stop bullets ;P

[thetrinsic]

i remember seeing somethign on the news about them telling kids if there is a school shooting hold a phone book up in front of you and it will this dumbass F.B.I agent said most phone books will stop any bullet well every bullet thats below a 22 cal obviously

[strongbadd665]

yeah, i remeber that crap,

well if they do hold the phone book up, it'll be like a mini party before they die. Due to the confetti :)

[RealMotherFarkinG]

whut a waste of bullets

[Ajeel06]

45ACP could not pierce a phone book?

are you serious...i dunno

[ridick333]

no, it did...its coming from the left and exiting from to the right...it only looks like its not peircing it.

[thetrinsic]

dude ive watched a 45 tear a engine block apart

[7dot62]

an R/C heli engine, maybe.

[thetrinsic]

no it was a actual car engine block

[7dot62]

there is a video on here of a .45ACP being shot at a car jack. it stopped dead in its tracks; i doubt very, very severely that its going to

"tear an engine block apart"

[PaulyCracker]

Sarah Connor?

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[hunterbob21]

yeah man i hate the yellow pages to