Totally agree with that, slamming a bullie's face into a car bonnet certainly settled him and his group down. It was a good counter point to the deputy principal at school who said "violence doesn't solve anything".
(And spare me the PC "might isn't right" bollocks before you start. It may not be right, but its what gets the job done - that's why we still have armies.)
Brilliant film. They wouldn't have the balls to make it these days.
Shame we don't have this kind of system in britain anymore, especially when the human rights law, young people would respect their elders and others more after coming out of rehabilitation, it would make a lot of people shit arse scared to go back to something like that.
Actually, one of the points raised in the film is that some of the kids like it in their and become institutionalised. Although it’s pretty brutal, they probably wouldn’t know how to function in normal society and just end up back in their anyway if they were released.
@markhorneyuk Yeah, let's strip criminals of all sense of humanity and remorse by sending them to horrible place where they'll be brutalized and depraved. Fantastic idea.
@markhorneyuk I don't quite get where you're coming from. You're just telling me my own interests. And besides, you don't know me at all so your assumptions are based on nothing.
there must be two versions of this film? the one I've seen seems to be shot at different camera angles, and In this version he says 'next time I'll facking kill ya' soooo much better haha
Really loved this scene even though all the characters in there are supposed to be "scums", it does piss you off when Carlin get beaten up by some chickenshit scums like Banks and Richard.
he lives in essex n my sister was lucky enough to get rays autograph when he came to southend and put his daughter on some of the riders in the theme park wher my sister worked and she couldnt believe it was him, n he said to her "dont make a fuss" n winked at her n her co workers, but fuck me tht was about 7 years ago or more..
@JesusCommando Good comment mate. I'm a placid sort of fella but when you've seen the shit he's gone through you're with him all the way when he does this!! You're right, it is morbidly uplifting!!!
Also, Phil Daniels plays a right little nasty fucker so well!!
I got this film for xmas from my da. Seemed like a bit of a random thing to open on xmas day, never heard of the film before. Fuck me, this film is AWESOME! A total showstopper like, although, in saying that, I was left a bit gutted by the ending, it finished a bit sudden. Other than that, it was fucking DOSS!
i think its this one that got banned the 1977 one coz theres more blood and sht in it lik when the black kid cuts his wrist really a good movie i love them both get them on dvd but make sure its the two disco
there where 2 versons of this a 1977 one and a 1979 one idk which one this is but one of them got banned for 14years off tv it was said it was the toughest film lik for that time
a big bar of hard carbolic soap in a sock does the job just the same yes 6to 2 borstal training sort some out of these gangsters taging and a pony out of the poor box does not work
it's not a bad bit -- (i mean,it certainly IS a bad bit),but it certainly shows the reality,doesn't it -- prison rape is the shame of all our justice systems...it can be avoided for the most part,yet is encouraged to scare people to tow the line...pretty sick...this is an ugly world,especially for the weak
What makes me laugh is that all the other prisoners hardly move. They maintain there seating position. Arm relaxingly drooped over the chairs. Lol. Only thing that moves is there heads.
They hardly move because a) they know what's coming b) Banks and his two little gobshite side-kicks are so disliked they would rather have Carlin as Daddy
Look closely, when carlin stands in the corner he's fumbling in his pocket, switching socks.
What makes you think this can't be added as a sound effect? it's a very simple process, even in the seventies.
Look at the sock as he's kicking the guy between the legs, it is swinging around and there is quite clearly less weight in it than when there were snooker balls in it.
I see what you mean. He pulls out that sock, and it's wafting about like there's nothing in it. And thinking about it, he wouldn't be able to swing that sock around and his in face so easily with 3 snooker balls in it. Infact, it probably wouldn't of hit him.
It was filmed in one continuous take (an assistant to the director had to lie on the floor, out of shot and hand Winstone another sock, containing papier mache balls.).
Carlin NEVER did the deed in the greenhouse, the reason there are two versions is that one was a screenplay "made for tv" but was too violent, the second, a carbon copy of the screenplay was filmed for cinemas.
Both versions are available as a 2 pack (i know, i own it)
Carlin, for all his violence, sees himself as a protector of the weak (the name escapes me of the guy who gets it in the potting shed) but he does look try to look after him. he's not a bully!
yeah it was made for the bbc but some thing happened and they did not air it.. i have not seen it just my pal has got it and said its better so check it out gl
Because of the violence maybe? I would of done more to Banks to secure m place as the 'daddy'. Beat him some more maybe? Yes. I would of caved his skull in.
did any body know that there are 2 versions of this they made one before where ray winston was the one shafting the boy in the green house..its nt that its cut..
Lol carry on
grasmere16 1 month ago
30 seconds of shit
TherymasterWidnes 2 months ago
Am the daddy now !
miggysss1 2 months ago
This is what bent pigs deserve.
02Blackbeard 3 months ago 2
Totally agree with that, slamming a bullie's face into a car bonnet certainly settled him and his group down. It was a good counter point to the deputy principal at school who said "violence doesn't solve anything".
skaszy1 3 months ago
BACK GRASS!
danielgrimmer 4 months ago
well carry on then
montymilf 4 months ago
damn, this dude is pretty alpha.
PanicAttackRelief 5 months ago
That's how you deal with a bully.
(And spare me the PC "might isn't right" bollocks before you start. It may not be right, but its what gets the job done - that's why we still have armies.)
Brilliant film. They wouldn't have the balls to make it these days.
darklordzden 5 months ago 18
"I said get back shithead!"
NewDayStudios 6 months ago
DAT MMA
InfiniteGXT 6 months ago
richards likes balls slapping his face.
hamsterondrugsno1 6 months ago
Ill cut you ta bleedin ribbons
poopoo123southend 6 months ago
I'll facking stripe ya!
FamousMovieScenes 6 months ago
i never noticed how when carlin looks into the dorm at 1:30, the kid points and indicates that banks is in the next room
MrOddOneOut 6 months ago
@MrOddOneOut Very weird, I just noticed that than read this comment. Yeah I've seen this movie a good few times and never spotted it
TheUltimateAssassin 5 months ago
@TheUltimateAssassin maybe because its not in the original
cardigan3000 4 months ago
The only scene that really bothers me is the rape scene
DaveSimonH 7 months ago
the person who disliked this video was thee guy who got striked by those snooker balls
bl00dony0u 7 months ago
@bl00dony0u It's striped not striked. That would be struck.
FamousMovieScenes 6 months ago
Shame we don't have this kind of system in britain anymore, especially when the human rights law, young people would respect their elders and others more after coming out of rehabilitation, it would make a lot of people shit arse scared to go back to something like that.
markhorneyuk 8 months ago
@markhorneyuk
Actually, one of the points raised in the film is that some of the kids like it in their and become institutionalised. Although it’s pretty brutal, they probably wouldn’t know how to function in normal society and just end up back in their anyway if they were released.
mbcxdlr2 4 months ago
@mbcxdlr2 , well, I wouldn't mind paying my tax money on that, just keep them in there I say.
markhorneyuk 2 months ago 2
@markhorneyuk Yeah, let's strip criminals of all sense of humanity and remorse by sending them to horrible place where they'll be brutalized and depraved. Fantastic idea.
Saskatchewan00 2 months ago
@Saskatchewan00, your only complaining because you was put in there.
markhorneyuk 2 months ago
@markhorneyuk Hm, no sorry - I think I'd remember something like that if it happened.
Saskatchewan00 2 months ago
@Saskatchewan00, really, Music, recreational drug use and tea, wouldn't be surprised.
markhorneyuk 2 months ago
@markhorneyuk I don't quite get where you're coming from. You're just telling me my own interests. And besides, you don't know me at all so your assumptions are based on nothing.
Saskatchewan00 2 months ago
"I'm the daddy now, next time I FUCKING KILL YAH!"....... Never fuck with a british villian like that...LOL
markhorneyuk 8 months ago
Always wondered why he didn't just use one ball. Surely that would make it easier to swing hard.
cuntylishus 8 months ago
@cuntylishus not heavy enough.
AHandsomeman 6 months ago
"Banks, you let him do you over, you dozy twat!!! Name carlin, I want you to name Carlin!" **Screw slaps Pongo to ground**
rankingtrevor 8 months ago
RIGHT, BANKS YOU BASTARD!
foxmakeba 8 months ago
My ultimate fantasy:
I am Carlin
Richards is my ex
Banks is the man she dumped me for
IEatManure 8 months ago 13
classic British movie making gotta love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheTruthandfreedom 9 months ago
roy west
2008Sameoldfitup 9 months ago
Badass movie.
mrbuttercup37 9 months ago
@Allenbarclay17 Intersesting
TheCormegafan 10 months ago
he looks like he really hit him
TheCormegafan 10 months ago
Even then so impressive you can see he other actors standing off him. A thinking mans nutcase.
wickesm 11 months ago
I've just literally watched this on tv, it's the best headshot I've ever seen!!!
david2k6murphy 11 months ago
anyone seen dog pound? americas poor attempt to make there own version lol
neilam6 1 year ago
@neilam6 They 've probally got better things to do then we do
Bountykilla82 9 months ago
So...who's the "mommy" then?
SUCKMEISTER005 1 year ago
0:01
xLazoomHD 1 year ago
1:49 Those punches from an 80+ amateur boxing career .Respect Ray.
helltopay1 1 year ago
Banks dislikes this
admaski 1 year ago
yea .....well carry on
sherbert500 1 year ago
there must be two versions of this film? the one I've seen seems to be shot at different camera angles, and In this version he says 'next time I'll facking kill ya' soooo much better haha
realdanman 1 year ago 3
@realdanman
There are 2 versions.
The original TV version, which got banned, and the film version, which this is.
I've got both in a special edition dvd set.
Wankshaftsbury 1 year ago
Right Banks, you bastard! I'm the daddy now and next time I'll fucking kill ya!
Musta seen this scene 50+ times
VoidBeyondTheRift 1 year ago
Really loved this scene even though all the characters in there are supposed to be "scums", it does piss you off when Carlin get beaten up by some chickenshit scums like Banks and Richard.
hanchiman 1 year ago
NEXT TIME ILL FUCKING KILL YA
Wankshaftsbury 1 year ago
I'm the daddy now.
RocknrollaMW 1 year ago
4 in the nads is certainly no laughing matter
cardigan3000 1 year ago
i slipped sir
sweetypie000 1 year ago
eastenders was a a lot more raw in them days
iamroleypoleyman 1 year ago
you want stripin do ya, ha ha ha ha, top shout
MrNelly2673 1 year ago
he lives in essex n my sister was lucky enough to get rays autograph when he came to southend and put his daughter on some of the riders in the theme park wher my sister worked and she couldnt believe it was him, n he said to her "dont make a fuss" n winked at her n her co workers, but fuck me tht was about 7 years ago or more..
Brady2k10 1 year ago
what the fuck is it with these adverts????????
PLEDGEY 1 year ago
holy fuck, these adverts are getting longer.
thispagesux 1 year ago
i'm the daddy now
GODlSDEAD 1 year ago
CARLINGS THE MAN
TheSparkle7 1 year ago
Now that's a head shot.
NorthernBloodLust 1 year ago
top film
and Ray Winstone =what a actor
daz19848120 2 years ago
im da daddy now
stoneradam 2 years ago
Oh man, that is fucking brilliant!
For me, this is the most uplifting scene in this often harrowing but definitely excellent film.
JesusCommando 2 years ago 2
@JesusCommando Good comment mate. I'm a placid sort of fella but when you've seen the shit he's gone through you're with him all the way when he does this!! You're right, it is morbidly uplifting!!!
Also, Phil Daniels plays a right little nasty fucker so well!!
djslipdisk 11 months ago
Fuckin shit adverts at the start, my tv licence is paid, iv heard Facebook is gonna start chargin to use it soon... replys........
dassnarmeanian 2 years ago
PANG! Ave a load of that.
Administers a deadly kicking to the anus of both of these young punks.
38Highbury 2 years ago
I loved this man Ray then and always will, he is the daddy.xx
bouncersue 2 years ago 2
I got this film for xmas from my da. Seemed like a bit of a random thing to open on xmas day, never heard of the film before. Fuck me, this film is AWESOME! A total showstopper like, although, in saying that, I was left a bit gutted by the ending, it finished a bit sudden. Other than that, it was fucking DOSS!
TKDdisciple 2 years ago
big lad in that bed, he plays bongo's.
SwetStet 2 years ago
i think its this one that got banned the 1977 one coz theres more blood and sht in it lik when the black kid cuts his wrist really a good movie i love them both get them on dvd but make sure its the two disco
rockerscarface183 2 years ago
there where 2 versons of this a 1977 one and a 1979 one idk which one this is but one of them got banned for 14years off tv it was said it was the toughest film lik for that time
rockerscarface183 2 years ago
l rekon richards looks almost identical to that lad from arctic monkeys.
still,best scene in the fucking film,except the 'wheres ya tool?' scene
xPOSIxDANx 2 years ago
@xPOSIxDANx oh ya
rockerscarface183 2 years ago
'big lad in that bed, goes by the name of pogo'......whollop!
docbreaknik 2 years ago
Pongo.
TragicallyWired 2 years ago
lol, yeah...i got excited and spelt it wrong
docbreaknik 2 years ago
FECKIN BLARGHK BARSHTARD
TragicallyWired 2 years ago
you mean pongo
wahgwaan87 2 years ago
Best scene from the film. brilliant
KingKongLeeSK 2 years ago 2
a big bar of hard carbolic soap in a sock does the job just the same yes 6to 2 borstal training sort some out of these gangsters taging and a pony out of the poor box does not work
bilbobagins1951 2 years ago
What a frickin' shot with the snooker balls!
Blargman57 2 years ago 2
best part is tho, banks is like nah nah i thought we were safe after he gets bashed, he moans like hes havin sex when hes down
TheAlabamaSlammer 2 years ago
yeah - . i like voilent shit too yeah, iam different like you
openmouthinhales 2 years ago
lets face it banks,you got fucked up good
TheAlabamaSlammer 2 years ago 4
Im the Fucking Daddy Now
BritishBlueLad92 2 years ago
beastie film. snooker ball bit is better in the original BBC version imo though
0theTED0 2 years ago
CARLIN IS A VERY GOOD BOY
happy4uful 2 years ago 3
Fukin brill! bought back some memories. I'm The Daddy Now!!!!!!
TheCybercham 2 years ago 2
i mean that is fuckin genious. snooker balls in a sock. fukin genious
kingyentertainment 2 years ago
Little did he know how often that phrase would be repeated
superalihare 2 years ago 2
I'm the fucking Daddy now!!!!!!!!!!!!
AspieWorld 2 years ago 3
carry on
g9baracuta 2 years ago
He hits the guy with his ball bag! LOL
Boshi0 2 years ago
Next time I'll FACKING KILL YA
b34rh34d 2 years ago 31
@b34rh34d Awesome film.
NoahForksin 1 year ago
GET BACK GRASS
GameCrackerz 2 years ago 18
lmao, ray winston looks about 5
Thorpy94 2 years ago
That looks eerily like my old school. Only my school wasn't quite so modern.
ThePhunckyOne 2 years ago 4
the only bad bit about the legend film is the rape
RollHighh 3 years ago 2
and the slitting wrists parts there fkn horrible
beavusesbuthead 2 years ago 3
it's not a bad bit -- (i mean,it certainly IS a bad bit),but it certainly shows the reality,doesn't it -- prison rape is the shame of all our justice systems...it can be avoided for the most part,yet is encouraged to scare people to tow the line...pretty sick...this is an ugly world,especially for the weak
paulianna1 2 years ago 5
0:46
BLAKEYBBLAKEY 3 years ago
That gets me every time! and it looks so real (:-{
Bretty135 3 years ago 2
good darts
gearheader 3 years ago
I read somewhere it was ping-pong balls in a second sock in his pocket.
lakeyboy78 3 years ago
He loaded the stocking with snooker balls, and when he paused at the doorway, an off-camera set hand traded it off for one with paper mache balls.
ineedtolikeyou 2 years ago
Actually it was the assistant producer, just watched an interview with him on the special features.
2largescotches 2 years ago
Well the balls are snooker ball colours, but the table is more the size of a pool table, not a 12 foot snooker table, its either snooker or pool.
StefanPriceUK 3 years ago
12 foot you havin' a laugh......
Mick342 3 years ago
That looks like a 6 foot pool table but a Snooker table is 12 foot.
StefanPriceUK 3 years ago
Ray winstone makes me Prous to be British
DannyJamesRead 2 years ago 5
Fuck! That has to be one of the sweetest clocks to the head I've seen! I could re-play it over & over again till mt sides split from laughter!
Exciter1000 3 years ago
mmm revenge flavour
Sonnetalex 3 years ago
fukin av it... proper!!! Great film and how it was!!!
sleepingdogslie1969 3 years ago
WHATS UP W/ U WEIRDO!
i love phil daniels in this. such a good actor
mod4life1964 3 years ago
that was the most badass thing ive ever seen. him taking the balls so subtle-like and then saying carry on with a serious face, damnnn
Olliebum75 3 years ago 2
I'M THE DADDY!
cuntflapz 3 years ago
What makes me laugh is that all the other prisoners hardly move. They maintain there seating position. Arm relaxingly drooped over the chairs. Lol. Only thing that moves is there heads.
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
They hardly move because a) they know what's coming b) Banks and his two little gobshite side-kicks are so disliked they would rather have Carlin as Daddy
TomthatiscalledTom 3 years ago 4
I slipped and I fell sir
Burnyhands 3 years ago
ray winstone is a great actor
iworshiplost 3 years ago 6
I'd like to know how they filmed this. What did he really use in that sock? That 'boch' when it hit him is NOT special effects..
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
Look closely, when carlin stands in the corner he's fumbling in his pocket, switching socks.
What makes you think this can't be added as a sound effect? it's a very simple process, even in the seventies.
Look at the sock as he's kicking the guy between the legs, it is swinging around and there is quite clearly less weight in it than when there were snooker balls in it.
fissionfruit 3 years ago
True.
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
I see what you mean. He pulls out that sock, and it's wafting about like there's nothing in it. And thinking about it, he wouldn't be able to swing that sock around and his in face so easily with 3 snooker balls in it. Infact, it probably wouldn't of hit him.
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
From Wikipedia
It was filmed in one continuous take (an assistant to the director had to lie on the floor, out of shot and hand Winstone another sock, containing papier mache balls.).
johnduffboy 3 years ago
I always watch this when I'm drunk. Am I a barbarian?
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
why do you guys call billiard balls "snooker" balls
Olliebum75 3 years ago
What the hell is a billiard ball?
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
Thats not a billiard table, its a SNOOKER table you American fool.
cotch85 3 years ago
billard balls,go way and fuck yourself with your billard balls u wanker
haysb1488 3 years ago
mickie22 im afraid you are mistaken.
Carlin NEVER did the deed in the greenhouse, the reason there are two versions is that one was a screenplay "made for tv" but was too violent, the second, a carbon copy of the screenplay was filmed for cinemas.
Both versions are available as a 2 pack (i know, i own it)
Carlin, for all his violence, sees himself as a protector of the weak (the name escapes me of the guy who gets it in the potting shed) but he does look try to look after him. he's not a bully!
fissionfruit 3 years ago
Would you bum a guy if you had the opportunity in a strictly male environment?
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
One of the best British films!
chrisane136 3 years ago
gosh, this really looks and sounds like my husband........ i love him but i am a bitch you know.
sherrinasherrina 3 years ago
Im The Daddy NOW!
Next time!, ILL FUCKIN' KILL YA!
xD
MikeyUK93 3 years ago
The greenhouse scene was funny. Bummed by 3 guys. I feel sorry for that guy.
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
NAME AND NUBER? 4737 CARLIN SIR!
gazsmash 3 years ago
yeah it was made for the bbc but some thing happened and they did not air it.. i have not seen it just my pal has got it and said its better so check it out gl
mickie22 3 years ago
Because of the violence maybe? I would of done more to Banks to secure m place as the 'daddy'. Beat him some more maybe? Yes. I would of caved his skull in.
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
did any body know that there are 2 versions of this they made one before where ray winston was the one shafting the boy in the green house..its nt that its cut..
mickie22 3 years ago
really i didnt no that
m2a0n0s7i 3 years ago
That crack with the snooker balls should of caved his skull in, but it didn't. The human body is quite amazing and resilient.
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
This isnt a documentary. They are acting" I therefore strongly doubt that he was hit at all.
bomaoneuk 3 years ago
Don't you think I know that?
TragicallyWired 3 years ago
I like the way he showed some consideration by taking two red balls from the snooker game, so as not to completely ruin it.
If he took the pink and black, their game would have been ruined!
See? The daddy has a soft side...sort of
Machismo1983 3 years ago 24
he!he!
class!
fudgepackor 3 years ago
lmao!! love this film :)
simondgrass 3 years ago
some1 done that in a pub by me :P
ellis3210 3 years ago
I'm the daddy now!
Turbophile08 3 years ago
I think the director missed a beat here.
While the scene as a whole is fantastic, it could have been bettered.
From the second he leaves down the pool balls to the second he starts the beating in the bathroom, its all one continuous shot, which is great.
I think they should have had this whole scene as one continuous shot...Made Winstone administer those beatings in real time.
Would have looked incredible.
Still a very good scene though.
questdvd 3 years ago
That initial hit with the pool balls in the sock makes me wince every time I see it. Fucking brutal film.
eldirtyone 3 years ago 2
classic film. i love this film and RAY is the DADDY
fluidthegreat 3 years ago
I found some scenes in this film very disturbing.
sushiboi66 3 years ago
And they say brushing your teeth regulary is good for you.
Psychoplasm 3 years ago
so hes the daddy then
detyreman 3 years ago
That's damn right mate.''Scum'' is the one of the best British made film ever.
deathmetal1987s 3 years ago 6
amen
OohTheHorror 3 years ago
One of the best scenes from a British movie ever.
savagefilms 3 years ago 2