No matter how wicked a man Jones is known as today. One must admit he was brilliant in creating a system that fused his communist ideals into christianity and made it work, for his followers accepted it and praised a belief which was really communism in disguise as christianity and social services. Although fictional, this sort of infiltration reminds me of Darth Sidious' method of infiltration in politics to meet his religious goals on a large scale.
wow. I didn't know how good a system jones had before he went crazy. Too bad he didn't realize he was changing and appoint a successor before it went too far.
@TheCrazycandygirl101 I encourage you do more research on the peoples temple to better understand jone's intentions. the reason he "went crazy" and ordered the suicides, was beacause many of his followers were becoming potential defectors and the fbi were learning too much about them in their growing investigations which may have triggered his decision to wipe out his group.
Wow, generalizing much? There are still some fringe Pentecostal groups that claim to be faith healers, but they are very marginal, just like polygamists,
Jim Jones was the opposite of a Christian. He hated religion and used it to push forth a socialist eden. I guess you're about as dumb as the members of his cult.
how stupid and brainwashed you have be that you believe that someone can walk after he/she can loosed legs working? man how i want to strangle that idiot Jim Jones!
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Jim Jones was a Jesuit under extreme oath.
Dr. Alberto Rivera an ex-Jesuit deep into the occult late in the 60s, said himself to have met Jim Jones a couple of times in secret meetings to accomplish the agenda of the Jesuit Order.
It all ties up on the top, their master is sat in Rome as King, and respond by the name of "Holy Father" if you wish.
dude thanks for uploading 10/10 i hate religions any religion (please Im not offending you people in general its only my opinion)but for me religion is a WAY To wash the mone y of poor people or desperate people in my point of view I say you dont need a specific religion to believe in god or jesus
They talk about lack of sleep. If you want to start to control someone. You start with controling their sleep and food.
He also saw that in the Black race he could draw them in b/c they felt held down for so many years. He could draw them in on the promise of power in their life. However, it was a lie. Jones was drawing them in to control them. That is how he tricked them. On the promise that he saw every1 as = . But, he only wanted control.
is so sad and unfortunate because there has been ppl like this man and there is ppl still like that but there are nothing but full of hatry and evilness inside of them and they'll do anything to manipulate ppl like religion is one great way to do so, i am a christian myself but i don't believe in evrything the pastor preach is right and not necessarly means that if i go to church is because i trust in man no never my trust and only trust is in god no man kind and i think many ppl get that wrong.
I don't think it has anything at all to do with god, the devil, or Jesus Christ,
this man was just a very human control freak, maybe psychopathic. As for his followers, some people like to feel dominated or guided by a god or leader figure, it's natural.
Just another tragedy from the cesspool of the 20th century--the 1970's. Falls right in line with all the other nonsense people fell for during the decade once many people abandoned Christianity in the late 60's--the ABC years--Anything But Christianity--est, Esalin, rolfing, transactional analysis, all the psychobabble schemes abroad at the time.
She was actually a People's temple member and the congragation she was in was people who were thinking about joinging People's Temple and everyone thought she couldn't walk. Jim Jones was a master at making people belive he had special powers. For example members would follow people to their homes and break in to find out info and then Jim would tell them things that only the person would know and that person would belive in him.
I love how clever people are by saying things like "how dumb can you be?" and "how could you think that woman was really a cripple?". Use your brains - in an enviroment like that, when you are with hundreds of people who want to believe it's true, the mind can play tricks on you. Those people weren't stupid, they were vulnerable and Jim Jones pressed all the right buttons. Don't be so arrogant.
There's not much difference between the Jonestown collective suicide and the 400 Cathars voluntarily going to burn to death in 13th century south of France.
Both groups were being pressured to give up their beliefs.
What the hell are you talking about? Do you actually know anything about the Jonestown Massacre, or the Cathars for that matter? No one was pressuring Jim Jones and his followers to give up there beliefs, Jim Jones lost his ever loving mind when a handful, not even a handful, when a little finger's worth of people decided that they wanted to leave his cult. This is a wee bit different from the centuries of pressure and persecution that the Cathars experienced from the Catholic church.
Thegirl44 you seriously think a charismatic pastor screaming God is Communism in his sermons and regularly welcoming the Soviet ambassador to Jonestown was not a target of the U.S. in 1970s America?
"A little finger's worth of people" meant a crack in the edifice, thegirl44. It meant Jim Jone's whole community system was about to crumble, it meant the begining of the end of his experiment.
I think the Cathars and the Peoples Temple share some similarities, yes.
In Jim's mind it meant that, but consider the amount of eastern Europeans that defected while the communists were in power and what the response was. JJ could have tightened up security, employed more powerful drug and mind control techniques..Leo Ryan said that he was going to tell congress that the majority of the Jonestown inhabitants were happy and that it was a productive community. Jonestown self destructed due to JJ's madness, the Cathars were persecuted out of existence, big difference.
I'm not trying to sound like a devil's advocate but a man like that in a way has to be admired. Someone so charasmatic he can make people believe in him even when their family is dieing around them. . . I'm not saying this is good, but just the way he did things the man was a damn good leader who knew what people wanted. And he gave it to them.
I fully agree with you. Jim Jones was an amazing speaker and he knew how to get into peoples minds. He was in no means a good person but that doesn't stop him from being smart. Hitler wasn't a good person but who else in the history of mankind has had an entire nation follow him to war. He was a speaker who knew what the people wanted. And please don't say this is stupid because you have to admit both Jones and Hitler were brilliant speakers and thats all I'm saying.
i think jim jones what he did was terable but i think what he tryed to do at the beging was something wornderfull. untill he got power hungry and it totaly corupted him.
Think about this....Jim Jones created a rainbow family. He had his own white son and adopted 4 other sons and a daughter all from different races. Only his real son and his adopted black son survived. He was one of the first whites to adopt a black son. He always preached about racial equality and Jonestown there was no issues of race or sexual preference.
Jim Jones was an evil genius. Too bad he went down the path he did. If he had chose another, he could've been a great man and helped so many people in a positive way, rather than become synonymous with the image of the self-destructive cult.
Notice that there are claims that people were BEATEN, yet I have seen no footage/evidence. Thus, are these stories credible or planted misinformation.
Of course...everything you see on footage Jim knew was being taped...do you think he would allow someone to tape something that put him in a bad light? Of course not. He made films to show how great people's temple was and then distributed them into the public. However the outside world never knew about what was going on inside until members left and told about it. Watch a special that just came out called Witness to Jonestown it show Jim telling people to beat a woman.
This should be required viewing for everyone. This whole notion that you should feel guilty for thinking of your own interests is dangerous. When you give up your life to something that is supposedly to the benefit of the community, then you have left yourself too vulnerable to those in charge.
No matter how wicked a man Jones is known as today. One must admit he was brilliant in creating a system that fused his communist ideals into christianity and made it work, for his followers accepted it and praised a belief which was really communism in disguise as christianity and social services. Although fictional, this sort of infiltration reminds me of Darth Sidious' method of infiltration in politics to meet his religious goals on a large scale.
EligosPoltergiest 2 years ago 2
wow. I didn't know how good a system jones had before he went crazy. Too bad he didn't realize he was changing and appoint a successor before it went too far.
TheCrazycandygirl101 2 years ago
@TheCrazycandygirl101 I encourage you do more research on the peoples temple to better understand jone's intentions. the reason he "went crazy" and ordered the suicides, was beacause many of his followers were becoming potential defectors and the fbi were learning too much about them in their growing investigations which may have triggered his decision to wipe out his group.
EligosPoltergiest 2 years ago
Christians still do these fraudulous, fake miracle shows all over the country to get more followers. And people buy into it, of course.
achmedlolol 2 years ago
Wow, generalizing much? There are still some fringe Pentecostal groups that claim to be faith healers, but they are very marginal, just like polygamists,
cmurphy2826 2 years ago 5
those are the evangelicals normal churches dont do that
not all of us are like them
greenemonster 2 years ago
it's sad, but true and dumb fucks actually believe its a miracle.. gtfo.
devinmckeone 2 years ago
Jim Jones was the opposite of a Christian. He hated religion and used it to push forth a socialist eden. I guess you're about as dumb as the members of his cult.
donnerbrandpear 2 years ago 3
true words, donnerbrandpear. Im glad someone else here other than myself understands Jones' true intentions.
EligosPoltergiest 2 years ago
@achmed --
Jim Jones was an atheist. He used religion to gain control of people.
TreblePop 2 years ago
how stupid and brainwashed you have be that you believe that someone can walk after he/she can loosed legs working? man how i want to strangle that idiot Jim Jones!
harhainen 3 years ago 5
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Jim Jones was a Jesuit under extreme oath.
Dr. Alberto Rivera an ex-Jesuit deep into the occult late in the 60s, said himself to have met Jim Jones a couple of times in secret meetings to accomplish the agenda of the Jesuit Order.
It all ties up on the top, their master is sat in Rome as King, and respond by the name of "Holy Father" if you wish.
hallmall 3 years ago
dude thanks for uploading 10/10 i hate religions any religion (please Im not offending you people in general its only my opinion)but for me religion is a WAY To wash the mone y of poor people or desperate people in my point of view I say you dont need a specific religion to believe in god or jesus
sadijuy 3 years ago 5
my god... it's doc terminus.
almadora 3 years ago
They talk about lack of sleep. If you want to start to control someone. You start with controling their sleep and food.
He also saw that in the Black race he could draw them in b/c they felt held down for so many years. He could draw them in on the promise of power in their life. However, it was a lie. Jones was drawing them in to control them. That is how he tricked them. On the promise that he saw every1 as = . But, he only wanted control.
fourteenKnuckels 3 years ago
It's too bad that such a good idea ended so tragically. I can see people being spooked by communal living because of wacko cult leaders.
agrus001 3 years ago
is so sad and unfortunate because there has been ppl like this man and there is ppl still like that but there are nothing but full of hatry and evilness inside of them and they'll do anything to manipulate ppl like religion is one great way to do so, i am a christian myself but i don't believe in evrything the pastor preach is right and not necessarly means that if i go to church is because i trust in man no never my trust and only trust is in god no man kind and i think many ppl get that wrong.
janier23 3 years ago 2
Yea I know ppl, don't look at Jesus Christ as a devil, because of this devil's action. God was not in this man, the devil was.
crackkilla101 3 years ago 8
I don't think it has anything at all to do with god, the devil, or Jesus Christ,
this man was just a very human control freak, maybe psychopathic. As for his followers, some people like to feel dominated or guided by a god or leader figure, it's natural.
Oli93ilO 3 years ago
he is paying for it now . in hell. WHAT A FOOL. DONT BLAME THIS ON JESUS CHRIST
zaktuta 3 years ago 2
He was a homosexual.
Adaeze611 3 years ago
deception is quite the tool...
lilhalfback 3 years ago 2
Just another tragedy from the cesspool of the 20th century--the 1970's. Falls right in line with all the other nonsense people fell for during the decade once many people abandoned Christianity in the late 60's--the ABC years--Anything But Christianity--est, Esalin, rolfing, transactional analysis, all the psychobabble schemes abroad at the time.
NDrLoR 3 years ago 2
OMG at 2:50 that is so FAKE. She could probably walk already she was just either lazy or faking it all along.
belias360 3 years ago
She was actually a People's temple member and the congragation she was in was people who were thinking about joinging People's Temple and everyone thought she couldn't walk. Jim Jones was a master at making people belive he had special powers. For example members would follow people to their homes and break in to find out info and then Jim would tell them things that only the person would know and that person would belive in him.
RaulKohl 3 years ago
Way ahead of you Buba!
Snotra 3 years ago
Way ahead if you buba!
Snotra 3 years ago
streetbob95, Grow some pubes!
Snotra 3 years ago
Hey, grow some balls. If you want to say something, say it to my face! Via reply to my comment. Not just go "Hahahaha He'll never see it."
streetbob95 3 years ago
I love how clever people are by saying things like "how dumb can you be?" and "how could you think that woman was really a cripple?". Use your brains - in an enviroment like that, when you are with hundreds of people who want to believe it's true, the mind can play tricks on you. Those people weren't stupid, they were vulnerable and Jim Jones pressed all the right buttons. Don't be so arrogant.
fortuna2007 3 years ago 8
There's a sucker born every minute.
ReligiousZombie 3 years ago 4
There's not much difference between the Jonestown collective suicide and the 400 Cathars voluntarily going to burn to death in 13th century south of France.
Both groups were being pressured to give up their beliefs.
I find this event amazing. And full of meaning.
Ariomaniac 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? Do you actually know anything about the Jonestown Massacre, or the Cathars for that matter? No one was pressuring Jim Jones and his followers to give up there beliefs, Jim Jones lost his ever loving mind when a handful, not even a handful, when a little finger's worth of people decided that they wanted to leave his cult. This is a wee bit different from the centuries of pressure and persecution that the Cathars experienced from the Catholic church.
thegirl44 3 years ago
Thegirl44 you seriously think a charismatic pastor screaming God is Communism in his sermons and regularly welcoming the Soviet ambassador to Jonestown was not a target of the U.S. in 1970s America?
"A little finger's worth of people" meant a crack in the edifice, thegirl44. It meant Jim Jone's whole community system was about to crumble, it meant the begining of the end of his experiment.
I think the Cathars and the Peoples Temple share some similarities, yes.
Ariomaniac 3 years ago 2
In Jim's mind it meant that, but consider the amount of eastern Europeans that defected while the communists were in power and what the response was. JJ could have tightened up security, employed more powerful drug and mind control techniques..Leo Ryan said that he was going to tell congress that the majority of the Jonestown inhabitants were happy and that it was a productive community. Jonestown self destructed due to JJ's madness, the Cathars were persecuted out of existence, big difference.
thegirl44 3 years ago
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Martin Luther must be crying in his grave...what a mess he created! Comeback to Rome friends.
Snotra 3 years ago
What the fuck is wrong with you? Say something like that again and I'll put you in an early grave.
streetbob95 3 years ago
running is fake..
dsaffery4 3 years ago
the bible foretells of people like jim jones if these were real christians they would have known that.
ASHLEY4500 3 years ago
These are Gnostic Christians, some say these were the original Christians.
Ariomaniac 3 years ago
this is very interesting.
ASHLEY4500 3 years ago
John Hagee, Kenneth Copeland, Rod Parsley, Paul Crouch, and the rest of the word of faith preachers are following in Jim Jones' footsteps.
jamal23227 3 years ago
Exactly! And Benny Hinn and Joel Olsteen as well.
BlackBeltNumber3 3 years ago
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Why is everyone hatin' on Jim Jones? That "We Fly High" song was off da hook! BAAAAAALLIN! DipSet 4 Life!
tonyescobar71 3 years ago
I'm not trying to sound like a devil's advocate but a man like that in a way has to be admired. Someone so charasmatic he can make people believe in him even when their family is dieing around them. . . I'm not saying this is good, but just the way he did things the man was a damn good leader who knew what people wanted. And he gave it to them.
Runningblind0913 3 years ago
You get the stupid comment of the day award.
On so many levels.
joelmc73 3 years ago
I fully agree with you. Jim Jones was an amazing speaker and he knew how to get into peoples minds. He was in no means a good person but that doesn't stop him from being smart. Hitler wasn't a good person but who else in the history of mankind has had an entire nation follow him to war. He was a speaker who knew what the people wanted. And please don't say this is stupid because you have to admit both Jones and Hitler were brilliant speakers and thats all I'm saying.
RaulKohl 3 years ago
This sounds EXACTLY like Scientology.
AcrossThePond40 3 years ago 7
Yep...sure does!
Kilia40 3 years ago 2
To AcrossThePond40 (5 months ago)
It does to me too. To equate this with Scientaology is a fair and accurat comparison.
BlackBeltNumber3 3 years ago
i actually believe jim jones suffered from mental illness eventually and his followers just carried on following him :-( its a shame
misschezelle23 3 years ago
I guess he started with good intentions. But as so often: good intentions are turning into bad intentions.
LaurelinB 3 years ago
thanks for posting these segments of information. this is one of the better ones floating arround on youtube.
towelgirl98 3 years ago 2
LOL!
clemtoe 4 years ago
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barack obama
clemtoe 4 years ago
Stupid, racist comment.
AltaMirage 4 years ago 2
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LOL!
clemtoe 4 years ago
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That was like a Rorschach test and you failed.
clemtoe 4 years ago
You can't "pass" or "fail" rorschach tests, idiot.
AltaMirage 4 years ago 3
Shut up you racist!
clemtoe 4 years ago
no, youre right one
capngimpleg 3 years ago
it´s scarey
camibodi 4 years ago
You dont play with god like that. Very un-wise and irresponsible. I pray that god has mercy on that man's soul.
bayareamayne 4 years ago
effin genius
allXnamesXwereXtaken 4 years ago
i think jim jones what he did was terable but i think what he tryed to do at the beging was something wornderfull. untill he got power hungry and it totaly corupted him.
tinkabella211 4 years ago
That's what I think too. He just got corrupted.
niekdekker 4 years ago
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How old are you? You spell like a four year old.
ZakkWyldePoop 4 years ago
Think about this....Jim Jones created a rainbow family. He had his own white son and adopted 4 other sons and a daughter all from different races. Only his real son and his adopted black son survived. He was one of the first whites to adopt a black son. He always preached about racial equality and Jonestown there was no issues of race or sexual preference.
RaulKohl 3 years ago
Do a keyword search on You Tube Q594
It is in 3 parts listen to part 1 first.
It is unbelieveable the PURE HATE he preached dated Apr. 1978 and how some of these people became very hateful being around him.
fourteenKnuckels 3 years ago
Jim Jones was an evil genius. Too bad he went down the path he did. If he had chose another, he could've been a great man and helped so many people in a positive way, rather than become synonymous with the image of the self-destructive cult.
AlaricRose 4 years ago 2
he not only played the race card, also psychology.
mpurnell5 4 years ago 5
if u pay attention, kenneth copeland is following in jim jones footsteps
mpurnell5 4 years ago
Notice that there are claims that people were BEATEN, yet I have seen no footage/evidence. Thus, are these stories credible or planted misinformation.
gigagroove 4 years ago
Of course...everything you see on footage Jim knew was being taped...do you think he would allow someone to tape something that put him in a bad light? Of course not. He made films to show how great people's temple was and then distributed them into the public. However the outside world never knew about what was going on inside until members left and told about it. Watch a special that just came out called Witness to Jonestown it show Jim telling people to beat a woman.
RaulKohl 3 years ago
that thing with the woman was sooooooo fake!!
applecom1de 4 years ago
you think?
hoboearl 4 years ago
oh absolutely. i heard jones put his employees/members in disguise to act.
kamthewire 4 years ago
This should be required viewing for everyone. This whole notion that you should feel guilty for thinking of your own interests is dangerous. When you give up your life to something that is supposedly to the benefit of the community, then you have left yourself too vulnerable to those in charge.
detatchedsr 4 years ago 3