@gameysf While Japan can be self sufficient and less vulnerable to external shocks, can we? Can't compare fairly as many industries go Japan are technological intensive hence less reliant on labour, unlike S'pore where the construction sector is still labour intensive. Besides, if rising cost of living is compensated by rising income as economy improves, it's perfectly acceptable.
ksst105, u don't look at GDP. But look at other indicators. Compare the salary vs the cost of living. Japan has lots of MNCs, but can Singapore govt create our own fortune 500 companies? Cost of living in japan has not changed much whereas SG cost of living has grown exponentially over the years while salaries are stagnant. Which city u prefer? Rising cost of living in a city or a city where costs remain roughly the same?
Declining birth rate and shrinking population is not a good enough excuse for PAP to mass import immigrants.
Can't they grow the economy without adding people? To say Japan is not doing well is a myth. Yes. their GDP may not have grown. But Japan still fare very well. Look at the trade surpluses, their purchasing power etc in Japan. Due to mass immigrants to Singapore, prices have shot up and our purchasing power have been eroded by inflation. We want prices to go DOWN, not go UP.
1) No of fortune 500 corporation Japan has vs SG (none at all)
2) japan has one of the highest work productivity while Sg's productivity has declined over the years. Compare creativity, innovation and entrepreneurship.
3) Japan's living costs remain roughly the same over the years due to deflation. Purchasing power remains abt the same and same amt of $ can still buy roughly the same number of things. Whereas in sg, escalating living costs has eroded our purchasing power.
@gameysf That's quite impossible. In order for the same number of people to handle more jobs means you have to take up more workloads. Means work for 16 hours or more instead of 8. And the worst thing is, even the number of people is decreasing.
Japan is not doing well at all, it was so bad that they describe the past decade as the stolen 10 years.
Isn't it partially his doing, demand for ever raising education levels in order to secure decent and secure jobs are what are driving people to need to get advanced tertiary education. They have to compete harder for jobs going to other people. It's a vicious cycle and part of the reason why people like that poor girl having to study through a large part of her childbearing years, due to problems put into process by decisions he made in the past.
its not only because it is politically indigestible for immigrants to come in, he said it himself, singapore is already a crowded place. even if replacement rate is 1.1, our population is still increasing! as of now, housing and transport is a major issue for us compared to years ago. if you dont solve these issues first, the citizen's resentment towards immigrants will be greater and more indigestible.
@clementckw as cost of living rises and with education for women, there will be less children, and more immigrants. but these people will become citizens with educated children. i.e. problem still persists. aging population will still be an end result. with a larger population, and added on resentment.
But what can we do? idk. but to me something is clearly wrong and immigration is not the solution. intuitively, it seems we are being displaced and less valued as citizens.
@clementckw and dont get me wrong, i admire mr. lee and i understand his concerns of singapore's survival and progress.
i can suggest no better solutions especially if it is a problem that affects almost all developed nations. but again, i do not think immigration is any better than what japan is doing. at least for now, japan is still surviving and has less to think about being displaced.
@DoraTheDino Are you a jerk? wasnt it recently reported that our population has grown past 5 mil? im saying with the increase in immigrants population increases (no duh?). and old people do not die as easy because of medical advances. FERTILITY RATE is 1.1. one couple produces 1.1 person. but not REPLACEMENT RATE which is the ratio of DEATH and BIRTH RATE. birth + immigration > death -- do the math fool.
who's the stupid one now. and do you not know how to be polite too?
Singapore birth rate will decrease because of the taxes are increasing year by year.
people have to work till old because they can't retire because of the tax.
and now i have 1 question, how do we increase the birth rate if we need to study till 20~30+ just to get a high income job just to support the family?
@jacky817 i think his point is that aging population is an inevitable problem happening all over the world. and the only solution, for us at least and in his opinion, is to have more foreigners coming in, for the survival of our nation.
survival is more critical over our attitudes about the solution; hence i think he thinks the question the girl asks is redundant.
at least that is what i think he is saying haha, not really answering the question though.
@hafidzhaj I believe you are deluded lol. LKY made Singapore the metropolis that it is today instead of a fishing village. Dictatorship? Please wake up, dictators are the likes of Kim Jung Il, not LKY.
@DoraTheDino i believe that singapore had been one of the most successful commercial centers in asia and part of the straits settlements for over 100 years by the time LKY became PM
@stsesame He did. Watch 1:03. He simply said it's a small problem compared to the problem of maintaining the balance between keeping the population young and being economically active.
Woman after age of 35 years danger of conceiving mongolian child (Down syndrome (DS). . Facts, American gets independance from parent when they are 17 and they gets married early and have children at young age. That is the reason why American don't have population aging problems. Bible showed Genesis 2:16 "In pain you shall bring forth children; your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you." The world changed, woman's role is to birth children & subject to man's authority.
damn this. on one hand he forces singaporean to fight for higher social career for survival, on the other hand want us to give birth. how many can actually do that?
@unholydanger Don't over exaggerate please, survival? You can survive EASILY in Singapore. Fufiling wants on the other hand, makes Singaporeans' lives "tough", not attempting to survive.
@DoraTheDino survival or not, that's not the point im getting at. Im against how hard he has made Singaporeans to fufill their life in Singapore, not against "how easy or how hard" he has made Singaporeans to survive in Singapore. You are against just one word I wrote yet you never grasped the meaning of the whole sentence. Are you a lady?
@unholydanger Come on now, is it really hard? If you wish to live in a bigger house, drive a car, buy the latest furniture/handbag/electronics etc., obviously it is going to hard. If living a basic and simple life, it is fairly simple and there are plenty of opportunities in Singapore for you to "fufill" it. It is not me not "grasping the meaning" when survival and living fufilingly are 2 different things. Ps. both can be achieved if without too many wants.
i've got a tear in my eye when he says that 'it's more important and more satisfying than your phd'. MM suddenly transformed into a loving grandpa infront of this student that could be his granddaughter. ^^
wasted my fking time watching this bullshyt
jubjub4261 5 days ago
@gameysf While Japan can be self sufficient and less vulnerable to external shocks, can we? Can't compare fairly as many industries go Japan are technological intensive hence less reliant on labour, unlike S'pore where the construction sector is still labour intensive. Besides, if rising cost of living is compensated by rising income as economy improves, it's perfectly acceptable.
oooo112211 3 weeks ago
if i am that phd student, i would ask: "Sir, how about you do something about your own daughter first"
vamjok 3 weeks ago
6:00 (Y) BEST !!
gohxinyan 3 weeks ago
I sudden like mm lee after this video!! He will make a wonderful grandpa..
HowHello 3 weeks ago
ksst105, u don't look at GDP. But look at other indicators. Compare the salary vs the cost of living. Japan has lots of MNCs, but can Singapore govt create our own fortune 500 companies? Cost of living in japan has not changed much whereas SG cost of living has grown exponentially over the years while salaries are stagnant. Which city u prefer? Rising cost of living in a city or a city where costs remain roughly the same?
gameysf 1 month ago
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oooo112211 3 weeks ago
He needn't have harassed her like that in front of an audience.
diwine 1 month ago
@diwine is this harassing? geez some people are so sensitive nowadays
datredcowproduction 1 month ago
Declining birth rate and shrinking population is not a good enough excuse for PAP to mass import immigrants.
Can't they grow the economy without adding people? To say Japan is not doing well is a myth. Yes. their GDP may not have grown. But Japan still fare very well. Look at the trade surpluses, their purchasing power etc in Japan. Due to mass immigrants to Singapore, prices have shot up and our purchasing power have been eroded by inflation. We want prices to go DOWN, not go UP.
gameysf 1 month ago
@gameysf Japan faring well?
Same earth?
a9fc 1 month ago 2
@a9fc
Compare:
1) No of fortune 500 corporation Japan has vs SG (none at all)
2) japan has one of the highest work productivity while Sg's productivity has declined over the years. Compare creativity, innovation and entrepreneurship.
3) Japan's living costs remain roughly the same over the years due to deflation. Purchasing power remains abt the same and same amt of $ can still buy roughly the same number of things. Whereas in sg, escalating living costs has eroded our purchasing power.
gameysf 1 month ago
@a9fc
I can't post website link here.
Go google and type "The Myth of Japan's Failure" written by Eamonn Fingleton
it has several valid good points why deflation is not a bad thing and Japan is faring well.
gameysf 1 month ago
@gameysf That's quite impossible. In order for the same number of people to handle more jobs means you have to take up more workloads. Means work for 16 hours or more instead of 8. And the worst thing is, even the number of people is decreasing.
Japan is not doing well at all, it was so bad that they describe the past decade as the stolen 10 years.
ksst105 1 month ago
There can only be ONE LKY, therefore we need to nudge A*star to quickly produce a cloning device or fountain of youth fast!
shaunlee88 1 month ago
With this you can sorta see why people voted for PAP in the past, but nowadays with people like TIN PEI LING ... jialat lol
asdasdasdasd61932 1 month ago 3
Isn't it partially his doing, demand for ever raising education levels in order to secure decent and secure jobs are what are driving people to need to get advanced tertiary education. They have to compete harder for jobs going to other people. It's a vicious cycle and part of the reason why people like that poor girl having to study through a large part of her childbearing years, due to problems put into process by decisions he made in the past.
stonesoundjam 1 month ago
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As long as the cost of property keeps rising, people will think twice when they want to have a child
oeijoeij 1 month ago
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oeijoeij 1 month ago
its not only because it is politically indigestible for immigrants to come in, he said it himself, singapore is already a crowded place. even if replacement rate is 1.1, our population is still increasing! as of now, housing and transport is a major issue for us compared to years ago. if you dont solve these issues first, the citizen's resentment towards immigrants will be greater and more indigestible.
clementckw 1 month ago
@clementckw as cost of living rises and with education for women, there will be less children, and more immigrants. but these people will become citizens with educated children. i.e. problem still persists. aging population will still be an end result. with a larger population, and added on resentment.
But what can we do? idk. but to me something is clearly wrong and immigration is not the solution. intuitively, it seems we are being displaced and less valued as citizens.
clementckw 1 month ago
@clementckw and dont get me wrong, i admire mr. lee and i understand his concerns of singapore's survival and progress.
i can suggest no better solutions especially if it is a problem that affects almost all developed nations. but again, i do not think immigration is any better than what japan is doing. at least for now, japan is still surviving and has less to think about being displaced.
clementckw 1 month ago
@clementckw Are you stupid? A couple (2) replaced with 1.1 rate = increasing?
DoraTheDino 1 month ago
@DoraTheDino Are you a jerk? wasnt it recently reported that our population has grown past 5 mil? im saying with the increase in immigrants population increases (no duh?). and old people do not die as easy because of medical advances. FERTILITY RATE is 1.1. one couple produces 1.1 person. but not REPLACEMENT RATE which is the ratio of DEATH and BIRTH RATE. birth + immigration > death -- do the math fool.
who's the stupid one now. and do you not know how to be polite too?
clementckw 1 month ago
Singapore birth rate will decrease because of the taxes are increasing year by year.
people have to work till old because they can't retire because of the tax.
and now i have 1 question, how do we increase the birth rate if we need to study till 20~30+ just to get a high income job just to support the family?
1sucker1sucker1 1 month ago
Come on people in front of all her peers and mm lee? she's too nervous to speak like bbc, give her a break.
raexz 1 month ago 2
phd student should speak like BBC...
eloisevanvuuren 1 month ago
Can someone help me summarise his point?
jacky817 1 month ago
@jacky817 i think his point is that aging population is an inevitable problem happening all over the world. and the only solution, for us at least and in his opinion, is to have more foreigners coming in, for the survival of our nation.
survival is more critical over our attitudes about the solution; hence i think he thinks the question the girl asks is redundant.
at least that is what i think he is saying haha, not really answering the question though.
clementckw 1 month ago
@clementckw Thanks! =)
jacky817 1 month ago
@DoraTheDino have you read the dictionary?...dont just believe what the media is telling you...
hafidzhaj 1 month ago
@DoraTheDino have you read the dictionary?...dont just believt the media is telling you...fothe obvious...dictators usualy
hafidzhaj 1 month ago
@hafidzhaj I believe you are deluded lol. LKY made Singapore the metropolis that it is today instead of a fishing village. Dictatorship? Please wake up, dictators are the likes of Kim Jung Il, not LKY.
DoraTheDino 1 month ago 2
@DoraTheDino i believe that singapore had been one of the most successful commercial centers in asia and part of the straits settlements for over 100 years by the time LKY became PM
anfield22 1 month ago
@unholydanger people who actually try instead of complaining.
blearghp 1 month ago
phd in biological sciences. epicfail in spoken english.
heraxella 1 month ago 44
@heraxella lol. bet u're phd-less.
nashstruck 1 month ago
@heraxella that's kinda unfair. She pretty much speaks like most singaporeans when made to speak "proper english"
Whyldcarrd 1 month ago 2
@heraxella poor spoken english is not an indicator of the lack of intelligence.
Vice versa.
a9fc 1 month ago
that girl is singaporean? no she's not
firdaus125 1 month ago
@MasculineClam sympathizer...he is a living dictator...
hafidzhaj 1 month ago
@hafidzhaj Please la have you seen a dictator and what those people do?
DoraTheDino 1 month ago
@stsesame It seemed to me, rather, that he was attempting to answer the student's train of thoughts behind the question.
sarabat 1 month ago
lol super funny
duckie258 1 month ago
ridiculous. he never answered the question. instead he used the question to speak on his own agenda.
stsesame 1 month ago
@stsesame He did. Watch 1:03. He simply said it's a small problem compared to the problem of maintaining the balance between keeping the population young and being economically active.
stantze 1 month ago
@stsesame well he doesnt have an answer to that anyway.
deadpeng 1 month ago
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Woman after age of 35 years danger of conceiving mongolian child (Down syndrome (DS). . Facts, American gets independance from parent when they are 17 and they gets married early and have children at young age. That is the reason why American don't have population aging problems. Bible showed Genesis 2:16 "In pain you shall bring forth children; your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you." The world changed, woman's role is to birth children & subject to man's authority.
sa278 1 month ago
@sa278 What points are you making?
MsEverAfterings 1 month ago
damn this. on one hand he forces singaporean to fight for higher social career for survival, on the other hand want us to give birth. how many can actually do that?
unholydanger 1 month ago
@unholydanger Don't over exaggerate please, survival? You can survive EASILY in Singapore. Fufiling wants on the other hand, makes Singaporeans' lives "tough", not attempting to survive.
DoraTheDino 1 month ago
@DoraTheDino survival or not, that's not the point im getting at. Im against how hard he has made Singaporeans to fufill their life in Singapore, not against "how easy or how hard" he has made Singaporeans to survive in Singapore. You are against just one word I wrote yet you never grasped the meaning of the whole sentence. Are you a lady?
unholydanger 1 month ago
@unholydanger Come on now, is it really hard? If you wish to live in a bigger house, drive a car, buy the latest furniture/handbag/electronics etc., obviously it is going to hard. If living a basic and simple life, it is fairly simple and there are plenty of opportunities in Singapore for you to "fufill" it. It is not me not "grasping the meaning" when survival and living fufilingly are 2 different things. Ps. both can be achieved if without too many wants.
DoraTheDino 1 month ago
@DoraTheDino ok you are right. but he still sucks, hah.
unholydanger 1 month ago
i've got a tear in my eye when he says that 'it's more important and more satisfying than your phd'. MM suddenly transformed into a loving grandpa infront of this student that could be his granddaughter. ^^
MasculineClam 2 months ago 34