Alex Salmond surrenders to Queen Elizabeth

[NoSharia4UK]

@CalibusTheCrab

Total Independance?

In The EU?

Your kidding yourself mate.

Stiil The EU will love our Oil money to bail out Their failed superstate.

[Earthlinggb]

"Head of HER devolved government". That says it all but the SNP supporters will just refuse to acknowledge Salmond is screwing us.

[1966thewallace]

As a great scots patriot wrote such a parcel o rogues in our nation ,but fear ye not my kinsmen their undoing is at hand.Alba ghu braith;;

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@1966thewallace I would be more optimistic about what is at hand if more Scots had joined the For Freedom Forums and had got themselves a proper political education instead of feeding their naive optimism with statements such as "fear ye not". There is a lot for Scots to fear from the Queen's ministers.

I sent you a message inviting you to register a username with the For Freedom Forums. Please do so now.

Website address = "FIGH. TK"

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@Sandgrownun77 I tried to send you a message to invite you to the For Freedom Forums at web=address

"FIGH. TK"

but all YouTube said

"User sandgrownun77 has enabled friend lock. You will not be able to send messages to them unless they add you as a friend."

[ALBIONTYKE]

Slamond is pro EU & a traitor working only for his own personal ambitions. A Federal European superstate is on the cards, even as things stand 70% of Scottish & English law is made in Brussels & soon it will be 100%. Either side of the border none of us are any longer independent, we are classed as European Citizens & subject to EU law like it or not. It's about time we all stooped living in a romantic fairytale cos if we dont we will all ultimately be at the mercy of an all powerful Germany.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@ALBIONTYKE Well we are agreed that Salmond is a trator working only for his own personal ambitions.

I don't agree that the EU is our main problem though. Our main problem is Queen Elizabeth and being denied the freedoms that a good elected president would deliver our nations.

But don't discuss our difference here please. This is not a good forum, better to join us in the For Freedom Forums. I will send you an invite.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@TheBattleForBritain1 Republics who elect their own head of state - France, Italy, Germany and so on - all are allowed in the EU. Whereas no republics are allowed in the UK. So Scottish republicans absolutely must get out of the UK though the EU is an option, to stay in or get out as suits our interests.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@TheBattleForBritain1 But by far the worst thing about the EU is that they are on friendly terms with the Queen & the Windsor dynasty upon which Salmond & the SNP depend..

At least the EU do not insist on Queen Elizabeth as head of state of Scotland, as the UK and union crown do.

Battling for Britain? Are you supporting Britons right to elect a president of a British republic? No, thought not. So you are a royalist traitor to Britain like the SNP are royalist traitors to Scotland!

[Georgebushbent]

that dosent make him a traitor, he stated clearly that he only intended to end the union, not the crown rule.if you dont like the monarchy just wait for the snp to have an independence referendum, if it passes it will probably splinter, some in snp want queen others dont, one thing at a time.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@Georgebushbent It does make Salmond a traitor. Either you are loyal to the rights of Scots to govern ourselves, or you are loyal to the Queen who imposes herself as ruler of Scots, and who allows her ministers and officers to enslave and kill Scots.

It is a UNION crown rule & dishonest to pretend that keeping the union crown amounts to "Scottish independence". The referendum will be a fraud and a trick to mis-sell retaining the Queen as "independence" when it is no such thing. TRAITOR SALMOND!

[beverage2008]

good music but a cannae hear wit the fuck their sayin cozae it!!!

[1MagicAndMayhem1]

Its a good hard fact that SNP supporters are a minority, And the spin and manipulation put forward by the SNP is always dismissed as the rubbish it is

Alex Salmond is a disgusting fat slimy toad who lacks any real common sense, He has excelled at exaggerating facts and figures to give his cause more fuel

[19alba87]

@1MagicAndMayhem1 Yeah - minority - good hard fact as proven the other week at the elections!

The very dismissal of anything to do with the SNP in the past has been the actual spin, bigboy.

[NoSharia4UK]

@1MagicAndMayhem1

I could not have put it better myself.

[kanenkitten]

If Salmond was so anti-monarchist, he would have not taken the oath of office to The Queen and not taken his seat likeof sinn fein

[GLORD99092]

Nice song, do you have the Andy Stewart version as well?

[robgould72]

As an Englishman, I can only hope that when independence does come, we can still remain friends.

[anjonjp]

ScotlandsMessenger - I have read several of your comments on here and find you to be intelligent and knowledgeable. However, if it is you that has added the comments to the video, then I have to say that if we Welsh and Scots wish to strengthen our case for independence, we are not going to do that by writing childish such things as 'evil cunt' to describe what will hopefully be one day, the head of state of a friendly neighbour. Let's show our maturity if we wish to cut the apron strings.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

anjonjp - The term "evil cunt" is more appropriate for Queen Elizabeth than for any other person on the planet.

Look at the issue from that evil cunt - Prince Charles for one - and think how much more evil he could do as King not just as Prince.

Not satisfied with doing untold evil in her own long rule as Queen, she threatens to doom generations more to evil rule by successors descended from those born from her evil cunt.

An evil cunt indeed!

[ScotlandsMessenger]

Not forgetting Prince Andrew featured in this video - another one who entered this world via the evil cunt!

We ought to be doing more than rattling the timbers of the Windsor dynasty.

As Wallace in Braveheart said - "Burn it."

We could have a repeat of the 1992 Windsor Castle fire but this time tie the Winsdor royals to the timbers.

Hey we could invite Bear Grylls and his scouts along for a massive republican sausage sizzle!

[ScotlandsMessenger]

anjonjp - What kind of friendly neighbour leaves his neighbours living in terror from the neighbourhood thugs, in this case the Windsor royals and supporters?

Should we Scots and Welsh leave our dearly beloved English neighbours at the mercy of this rotten monarch?

It is our duty to end slavery to this monarchy on this island and as far as Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Scots should rally all the world to remove the Windsor dynasty from power everywhere and for all time.

[ProUnionist]

I say no to Independence as it's offensive to more than half of Scots. No to Alex Salmonds fishy agenda. No to Gaelic unless all cultures are treated equally. No to the current Scottish Education system which divides all Scots. It should be one school for all faiths. If you want a private education then pay for it yourself. Scrap the Scottish Parly and spend the money on Hospitals/Schools/Police and the elderly, spend our money on key services that we need within communities all over Scotland.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

ProUnionist - Be fair. What IS offensive to more than half of Scots is when British Scots or Scottish Britons (those who claim both Scottish and British nationality) are harassed or insulted by union-flag-burning bigots.

Listen to -

"Peter Dow (on radio) re: Union flag in Scotland"

watch?v=jYWC2qdYjAk

Scottish national independence however is not offensive to Britons so say "yes" to a Scottish republic but say "no" to Salmond's fraudulent "independent" (dependent) Queen's state.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

ProUnionist - Scrapping the Scottish parliament would be a false economy.

The hope of a Scottish parliament is that one day we Scots would elect parliamentarians worthy of the name who would oversee the Scottish budget and make sure the money was spent competently and wisely.

Sadly that hope has not yet been realised as Holyrood has passed only "no-strings" budgets for the Scottish establishment to waste and to abuse Scots with.

Scraping Holyrood would guarantee waste for ever more.

[gooners105]

Scotland might not get independece,everyone who wants to be free votes for one party. The others who wants to stay vote different

parties there are more Scots who wants to stay.

If you do become free you'll get problems from the unionists.

[Kushanjaya]

1. Check your spelling.

2. You use don't 1st, you use I.

3. I have checked my history and present, there is no such position as Queen of Scotland currently!

4. I never commented on anything such as that.

Additional note: Many monarchs of Scotland were called Queen/King of Scots, not of Scotland...

[gilpy74]

She is Quenn Elizabeth 1st of Scotland. Check your history Kushy and maybe then you wont embarass yourself any further.

[Alba12349]

she's of german descent

[ScotlandsMessenger]

yessennef - Punctuation is a marvellous thing.

[Chapels]

you do realize that alex salmonds personal view is to have scotland as a dominion like canada or australia

[ScotlandsMessenger]

Chapels - Salmond's view is that of a traitor, yes, I realize that.

Do you realize that Salmond's "independence" means for him as FM, not for Scots as a nation? Therefore the SNP under Salmond is not really a "national" party but rather a state party.

Canada and Australia have independent states, under ministers of the government - not independence of the nation, people power.

Independence from state dictatorship is achieved by the people electing a president who insists on democracy.

[ELONut]

The union of the crowns and the union of Parliaments are two seperate and different things. Alex Salmond is a shrewd and clever politician he wants a free Scotland first and foremost!, after that has happened then the free Scots can decide whether or not they want a Republic. It is called Democracy the will of the people and to have true democracy you need freedom first!

2010 YES

[PWJ82]

I don't believe we'll ever be given the opportunity to become a republic. First of all we need independence which isn't a foregone conclusion.

It will never happen as long Salmond and his minions are calling the shots at the SNP or if any of the three other big nasty parties win power at Holyrood.

It's only possible to become a republic if the Scottish Socialist Party or Solidarity were to become a major political force which is highly unlikely.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

ELONut - Define "free Scotland" because the land itself is pure geology. It is the people of Scotland which can either be free or not, according to the behaviour of the state and its ministers.

Salmond wants a free state only - himself even more free as the Queen's Scottish First Minister - free to abuse and enslave the Scots by taking personal charge, as he has now, of the oppressive state to shut up the best patriots, such as myself.

Salmond already denies Scots freedom and democracy.

[Jl200]

I agree, There needs tae be a Scottish Republic. Fits i' point in Scotland hivin a Queen Fit wid she dae aat wid mak an' she's a witch anyway.

[jaffabuk]

read some books guys, Scotland and England shared the same monarch for a 100 years before the act of union, and that Queen at the time was a Stuart (as in mary queen of scots and all that)

2 parlements under one centries old monarch tradition, it will be fine

[ScotlandsMessenger]

jaffabuk - In the periods between the Union of the Crowns 1603 and the Union of Parliaments 1707, came "The Killing Time" between 1680 - 1688.

"The conflict was between the Presbyterian Covenanter movement, based largely in the south of the country and the government forces of King Charles II and King James VII."

- Wikipedia, "The Killing Time".

The lesson of history is that when Scotland is ruled by an idiot monarch then the people of Scotland suffer, are enslaved and are murdered.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

jaffabuk - People like you, Salmond, the SNP and the BBC who ever utter one word of reassurance or denial about the evil which monarchy inflicts upon the Scots are the worst enemy of the Scots.

True there are Scottish royalists but then mostly some Scots have been our own worst enemies.

Whether Stuart, Hanoverian or Windsor, whether Catholic or Protestant, monarchy has inflicted missed opportunity, death and disaster on us.

Republicanism is the modern and intelligent way to govern.

[spiritofchink]

Having a queen on the throne doesn't matter a damn. What matters is independence. Everything else comes second. After we break free from the union, we can ditch HRH if we choose to do so. Leave Salmond alone and stop behaving like a spoilt bairn.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

spiritofchink - Independence of the Queen's state in Scotland (Salmond's vision) matters only to Salmond and other ministers of the state who will have independence but WE SCOTS WILL NOT!

Without a good president of a Scottish Republic the people of Scotland will still be SLAVES to an oppressive royalist, fascist police state.

The difference will be is that instead of both Brown and Salmond cracking their whips on us, it will just be Salmond.

I am not spoilt, I am fighting enslavement.

[spiritofchink]

We need as many to back independence as we can get. That includes the older generation, ex-servicemen and English people living here. If they are turned off by republicanism, then what have you acheived?

The queen has no power in Australia, New Zealand or Canada. She'd have no power here. She's a figurehead. If that's enslavement to you, you need to get out more. The UNION is the enslavement, not the face on the stamps.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

spiritofchink - Most people will back what the TV tells them to back.

National independence is only ever won when the ruling state is forced to stop oppressing the nation.

Ex-servicemen do have a role - a significant minority of them must be persuaded to take up arms to enforce exclusion of the Queen and her family from Scotland, or face arrest, assassination etc.

Then and only then will the state in Scotland permit an open TV debate on the issue of national independence and a republic.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

spiritofchink - The Queen and royalists had the power to dismiss Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in 1975 and the power to prevent a good elected President from dismissing Prime (or First) Ministers who should indeed be dismissed - Thatcher, Blair, Brown and Salmond too.

The Kingdom allows bad Queen's ministers - denying us a NHS dental service, police killing innocent people - to remain while the majority of MPs/MSPs support.

Republican or protesting MSPs are barred or excluded.

[converter7]

After all, in the great era under Stuart rule they had the same king, but were independent kingdoms. Canada is an independent kingdom, but still has the same queen. So don't call Salmond a traitor. He is a realist and he is doing whatever it takes to gain Scottish independence. Any notions of a Republic or a new royal family are best waiting until after Alba is free.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

converter7 - Salmond is a real traitor. He wants independence of the state but under the Queen. That will give him the power of dictatorship in Scotland and the one thing the Scots will not have is personal independence.

Speak out, protest, embarrass the government - and we will all be subjected to the brutality of the royalist, fascist police state.

Remember Hitler's state had "independence" - the Germans under Hitler had no personal independence.

Likewise with Saddam's independence.

[converter7]

Sure, Scotland can fight to be a republic in the future if she wants, but her first task must be to disband the UK. After all an independent kingdom with the same queen is possible. They are not automatically united if the have the same queen.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

converter7 - The Scottish nation - the people - us - we will not have independence until we have a good head of state to defend our personal freedoms to govern ourselves democratically.

So long as Salmond holds on to powers such as to expel from parliament any MSP who annoys the majority by protesting, we will not have national independence - only state independence.

Sure, we could be like a New Zealand or a Canada - and still be slaves to the Queen's minister.

[Kushanjaya]

What do you mean by still be slaves to the Queen's minister?

If you mean Prime Minister of the UK, then your wrong, Canada and New Zealand are Kingdoms in there OWN RIGHT, they have SEPARATE Prime Ministers, the Queen is the Queen of those nations SERPARATLY!

[ScotlandsMessenger]

Kushanjaya - In Scotland now, Scots are jointly enslaved by the Queen's First Minister of Scotland who operates from Edinburgh as well as her UK Prime Minister from London.

So a Queen's "separate" state in Scotland WOULD route all enslavement powers by the Queen via the FM only & the UK PM would have no say any more.

Just as Canadians are enslaved by the Queen right now by the Canadian PM & Governor General who have suspended parliament because the MPs have no confidence in them.

[converter7]

He ain't a traitor, he is fighting for independence from the UK. In effect, he would create a separate kingdom of Scotland again. What's wrong with that. It makes sense to fight for independence for the nation of Scotland to be a separate kingdom again, rather then a Republic.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

converter7 - Salmond is a traitor, not to Queen Elizabeth - he is loyal to her. He is a traitor to the people of Scotland because he would deny us a proper democracy - rights and freedoms to govern ourselves rather than be subject to the arbitrary and cruel rule of the state.

Salmond is not fighting for the independence of the nation - anything but. He is fighting to stop the nation being independent from Queen Elizabeth's state.

Salmond doesn't even support the rights of MSPs who protest!

[WLS1971]

There has been a Monarch as head of State for Scotland since Queen Elizabeth I died,why split now? It would weaken both places no?

[ALBA861111]

she's not scottish. and i dont give a shite if her great great grandfathers cousins friends dog was scottish

[userblue]

This rather undermines the seriousness of the Scottish Independent cause, no?

[gilpy74]

You vote labour anyway you sad celtic fuk. The queen is head of state, get used to it or go live in ireland.

[ALBA861111]

Go live in England you traitor.

[gilpy74]

Why, I am scots and she is queen of scots? We are not Ireland in disguise.

[ALBA861111]

Queen of scots!? fuck no. i dont want anythin to do with the english royal family.

[rulebritannia1]

you seem to think that scotland has been a republic before and that it has never been a monarchy and that the scotish king never took the englsih throne and unted the two kingdoms and that it was done by a scottish king and scottish nobles and government

[ScotlandsMessenger]

rulebritannia1 - The Declaration of Arbroath defined the Scottish King as an office subject to being removed and replaced by Scots if he failed to defend our freedom.

So not government by one - not true mon-archy.

Which was nearly a republican constitution for a Kingdom - but yes, not until now, with the elements of a Scottish republican written constitution which are contained in my Scottish National Standard Bearer website have Scots finally reached the required standard for a republic.

[Steely1888]

@rulebritannia1 - Britain wasn't always a monarchy u twat. Oliver Cromwell? Also your talking about the union of crowns, not the union of parliamens u tit. Ye are scotlands shame u imperialist nob

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@Steely1888 I don't think "rulebritannia1" is Scotland's anything. He is a Church of England UKIP member.

[CalibusTheCrab]

I was born in Scotland

[yeahbuddy2]

Long live the rightful King of Scots, Francis II!

[smck001]

ScotlandsMessenger is a unionist Labour voter - heaven forbid....

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@smck001 No I'm not "a unionist" because don't support the United Kingdom or the Union of the Crowns, unlike the SNP leadership who support the United Kingdoms and the Union of the Crowns. The SNP are the unionists along with Labour, Lib Dems, Tories etc.

Sure I proudly fly the union flag alongside my Saltire and Lion Rampant - but only as a British flag, asserting my dual nationality, both Scottish and British, never do I fly the union flag as a union of kingdoms flag.

[ScotlandsMessenger]

@smck001 As for voting Labour - well I have voted for all kinds of unionist parties - including sometimes for the Unionist SNP party - that doesn't mean I fully support those unionist parties - I don't!

If there was a "Unionists for shooting the Queen" party I might vote for them - doesn't mean I support the unon though.

[glasgow1234]

I think people should look into our history!! How did we get the union in the first place ?? It was when King James was made king of both Scotland and England so Queen Elizabeth has scottish blood and heritage which should be remembered in Scotland. I fully support Independence for my beautiful country of Scotland!!! Hopefully when the times comes to decide people will have opened their eyes

[SCelticOTLAND]

elizabeth has got german blood.

and the scottish people didnt get to choose about joining the union.

but we can choose now

[chrispeeez]

But true Celtic blood originates from the German/Austrian region

[SCelticOTLAND]

when we get independence we shoudl get rid of the english queen.

no question about it

[robbo188]

wouldn't say he's surrendered - he's got to be all nice to her cos she's an old woman when independence comes around if Salmond is still talking about keeping the monarchy then the cat-calls can commence - not till then though