Let's stop arguing and take concrete action to spread peace in this world!
Simple suggestion: Go to website w w w dot avaaz dot org, and sign the petition for Palestine. Tell all your friends and post on your facebook. Love to everyone, hatred for none
Some have claimed that Palestinians descended from the Jebusites. It has appeared in the Palestinian Encyclopedia and in Palestinian Authority school textbooks. The claim is used as an attempt to prove a connection between Palestinians and Jerusalem that predates the Muslim conquest.[31] There is, however, no archaeological evidence linking the Arab-Palestinians of today with the Jebusites of the Canaanite period.[29][31]
@cmto3 Dude do you remember? On 16 March 2003 in Rafah, occupied Gaza, 23-year-old American peace activist Rachel Corrie from Olympia, Washington, was murdered by an Israeli bulldozer driver. Rachel was in Gaza opposing the bulldozing of a Palestinian home as a volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement
@senyah5 - Ah, do you remember she put herself in harms way? Do you remember the suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Mahane Yehuda market place in Sept 1997, and in the Ben Yehuda Mall a week later. Or maybe you forgot about the Sbarro bombings killing innocent ppl including a pregnant mother from the US. Or maybe you forgot about Tali who was pregnant who was shot in the head along with her 5 CHILDREN!!!!.. Or maybe you forgot about the rockets hitting KINDERGARTENS in SDEROT.
@senyah5 - One more thing.Rachel Corrie was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement killed in 2003 in Gaza by an IDF bulldozer, whose driver DID NOT SEE HER STANDING IN IT'S WAY to prevent demolition of an Arab home.The Israeli military ruled that this was an accident and ISM members accused the driver of murder even before the military could investigate the incident.
Respond to this video... Wherever ISM members mingled and even lived among Gaza and West Bank Arabs, it is possible that many of these Arabs were terrorists or helped the terrorists by feeding and housing them. The ISM'ers could have been at gatherings where they were introduced to suspected terrorists, heard stories about violent activities or noticed otherwise suspicious activity.Actually, there is not only evidence, but proof of ISM aiding and abetting terrorists.
@cmto3 The attack on Jerusalem's King David Hotel July 22, 1946 by the underground Jewish group Irgun led, by Menachem Begin, was by far the most extraordinary terrorist act against British authority in Palestine, both for number of casualties and for its political significance. 91 people were killed by this cowardly attack committed by the Jewish Zionist terrorist group led by former prime minister of Israel Menachem Begin.
@senyah5 - 1. Not condoning. 2. There were over 1,000 dead due to suicide bombers between the years of 2000-2004. and many many more attacks since.
3. How many zionist bombings can you name in the last 60 years???? 4. How many bombings did the zionists actually do that PURPOSELY went in to kill innocent women and children??????????
@senyah5 During the British Mandate, the entire southern wing became the administrative and MILITARY CENTER of British rule in Palestine and was blown up in July 1946 by the Irgun.
It was NOT like the SUICIDE BOMBERS who PURPOSELY went in to kill INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Nice try.
@cmto3 Dude, Remember in 2004 Two Israelis Spies, tried to enter Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, home to eight Trident submarines. located in the United States adjacent to the town of St. Mary’s in Camden County, Georgia. The truck tests positive for explosives
@senyah5 - Dude, remember the massacres by the Arabs in the 1920's on the Jews, remember that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem conspired with Hitler to wipe all Jews out before the establishment of the state of israel!! Remember Alisa Flatow that was killed in a bus bombing in 1995. She was an innocent American student. Remember the many many other suicide bombs, Try 26,500 between 2000-2005. and the tractor attacks, and stabbings, and shootings.
@senyah5 Oh and Remember the Muslim "psychologist" who went into Fort Hood RANDOMLY shooting at INNOCENT people last year.
and let's not forget SEPTEMPER 11,2001 where 3,000 people were killed in the world trade center attack and ARABS IN GAZA were PARTYING and GIVING OUT CANDY in CELEBRATION !!!!!!!
@cmto3 You want us to believe palestine is the promised land to the jews, you also want us to believe jesus is not the messiah, according to the jews!!! So in addition to wiping Palestine off the map your trying to wipe Christianity off the Map
@cmto3 That video was DEBUNKED!!! It turned out that they were NOT PALESTINIANS, they were Iraqi's Celebrating the the HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN. Bloody hell, you Zionists are really becoming slow. Catch up with the real world.
Free Palestine From the ANTI-SEMETIC ZIONIST BASTARDS who only hurt NATIVE SEMETIC PALESTINIANS.
@universalstudios13 Actually, the Jews were there before the Arabs and before the advent of Islam. So historically, the Jews are the natives and the Arabs and Muslims the late coming invaders. In any case, the two peoples can live together in peace as soon as the Arabs end their war against Israel. Peace.
@tuberutoo Your wrong mate. By definition, the Palestinians that exist in Palestine/Israel today and were born there are NATIVE. Please read a dictionary.
"So historically, the Jews are the natives and the Arabs and Muslims the late coming invaders."
Give me a break mate, so where did the "Jews" leave to? And if they did leave, why would Jews have lived amongst Arabs pre 1900's?
Oh yeah, and by your definition, what is Jewish? Race or Religion?
@universalstudios13 most palestinians are arab immagrants that came between 1880 and 1948 due mainly to economical reasons . prior to 1880 when mass jewish immagration started the land was sparcly populated and there were about 100-150k people. there was always a jewish presence in israel , for example in 1900 the jews were the largest communitee in Jerusalem ( not muslim arabs!!!). things round here are not as black and white as they seem from far away.
Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947;
Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.
Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.
Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:
The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.
@krepIach2 The rise of the Yishuv benefited Arab life indirectly , by disproportionate Jewish contributions to gov't revenues and thereby increased mandatory expenditures in the Arab sectors and directly by opening new Markets for Arab produce and (until the civil war of 1936)new employment oppurtunities for Arab labor
@krepIach2 .Submarginal as the conditions were they were immeasurably better than those of the nearby Moslem countries elsewhere in the middle east.The increase of popl was not at all natural, the influx could be traced to the orderly govt from the British. but for more certainly the economic oppurtunities made possible by the Jewish settlement. (p.167 A History of Israel, from zionism to modern time by Howard M. Sachar)
1. Who says that it was correct for the Ottomans to take over the land? 2. There were only 250,000 Arabs in 1882. Yet by 1914, the number nearly doubled and by 1920 it reached 600,000. Under the mandate of Britian it grew dramatically climbing to 840,000 by 1931 and representing 81 percent of the population. While the Moslems were the majority , they lived mainly in the hilly northern and central regions of the country. Population increase was 118% bet 1922-1946
@krepIach2 , they weren't racist comments.. just facts.. Gazans get plenty of money from all around the world.. don't know where you get the money from.. and FYI.. the jews were FIRST in the ME before they ever got to Europe.. ever wonder where the 800,000 that were in Iran , Iraq ,Yemen came from???? Those were not far from ISRAEL.. the country was desolate and they needed to eat. Palestinians didn't come there til the 1890's due to jewish economic prosperity.
@krepIach2 so that the American economy can grow.. they don't get any real money but "coupons" to buy American weapons to keep the American economy going..
and FYI.. Palestinians who get BILLIONS also have hotels etc.
@krepIach2 There is no occupation by the Israelis , but by the Palestinians ... squatters who came in the early 1900's claiming to have been there "thousands " of years.. one minute they are Arabs and the next minute they are Jebusites.. and the next minute they are born from intermarriage with jews.. WHO are they"?
The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”
Well, 56 Muslim states and about 50 "3rd world states" are more than 1 Israel. The UN is not fair ground to play politics. If the Muslim want than the world is plato.... at least according to the UN !
Look at the original proposal to this empty state. and then to moslem pressure it was carved up to give israel borders it could not defend. but as usual instead of seeking peace moslem mentality is to fight and they got their moslem asses kicked 48 56 67 72 06 09 and so it goes on stop gambling and you wont loose.....simple
Palestinian leaders committed big mistakes. They refused to establish their own state in 1947 when the United Nations decided on the creation of two states in the British colony of Palestine. In 2000, Arafat refused again to establish the Palestinian state in the negotiations at Camp David with Israel prime minister and president Clinton. History shows that this policy of refusal was disastrous for his people. And now Instead of joining forces the Hamas and Fatah are killing each other.
I like Jews. I am Jews. My family and children and city and whole country are Jews. We are here to stay, we have the world's best minds, top science and haha the strongest army - so my dear Jew-haters, it's time you started internalizing the idea that we are here to stay, which is not someone can say for you once the west sucks you dry of oil!
you are a jew its ok but you are not a nation !if u look to history arabs treated the jews very good in all their history until zionizim came and brainwash the jews .the jews are their first victim they make a fake nation with a fake state!ironically treating the palestenians worse than the NAZIS treated them!
check the agreement between the nazi goverment and the zionists in germany THE HAVARA TRANSFER AGREEMENT with HAIM ALSOROF u would see who support the nazis causing later the tragedy of hollocaust ,palestenians had nothing to do with that HAPPY HANUKA REGARDS.
how is an agreement of letting persecuted jews emigrate to Palestine a cause for the Haulocaust? this wasn't in support of Nazi's it was a way for them to escape
so you admit that the native palestenians are the real people of palestine (and if once their was a jews in palestine ,the palestenian people wether are muslims or christians and palestenian jews (around 2 % of the palestenian population in the begining of the century )converted or not are the the original people of of PALESTINE not russians ethiopians and............
No 1st there is about 500,000 indigenous Jews living in Israel, which means they never left, that consists of 7.1%, if u include the WB and the Gaza and that falls to about 4%.
now Palestinians are of Arabic decent, Arabic culture never touched the holly land until after the 2nd century, thats why there's archeological finding to support any indigenous Palestinians, you can also pick up your bible or Quran, both specifically link Jews to the holly land. need i say more?
i dont believe that religion and only religion make a nation!i respect the freedom of believe and human rights . as you see bin ladein also wants to make like the zionists his own country and nation based in religion which is not correct.are you with him! peace to be achieved needs justice not zionizin not bin ladin
IZRAEL secular and democratic realy you make me laugh!all these masacres and killing OF palestenians more than 60 years ,expelling and domilishing of their homes seems very democratic and secular.man wake up the zionist crimes cant be hidden forever !u need to have peace in your souls and human if u want to exist !thats the life and history believe me!
give me a break, calling anything that has happened a massacre just discredits any previous massacre's that has taken place, the point is Israeli's dont kill indiscrimantly, if they did there's nothing stopping the death toll's from reach the 100,000's compared to 1000 death during time of war, which is laughable comparing it to any war thus far, i mean 400,000 died in Darfur, the Rwanda massacre's, these were massacre's, 500 civilians dying in time of war isn't a massacre, its collateral dmg.
man you displaced 850000 palestenian refugees took their homes destroyed more than 450 villages and cities at the 1948 what u call that democratic! i want u to check your references BENNY MORIC ,LLAN PAPPE AND OTHERS.EVERY PALESTENIAN REFUGEE AND HISS DECEDENTS have the full right of his home and to return home back much more than a russian or american or even arab jew ,jews with my respect had their homes and their countriesthey are a religion and not a nation!!
the internationally recognized number is 750,000 Palestinian refugee's from the 1948 war, i dont hear any out cry for the 1,000,000(internationally recognized figure) jewish refugee's being expelled from Muslim countries or anything about there compensation. never the less this point is redundant because even pro palestinian scholars like Chomsky admit that the Right of Return is not feasable, never the less maybe u should look at your own countries history and the autrocities they commited
yes you are right to a certain point to call arab jews refugees .for me all the jews who came from all over the world are( refugees in palestine) ) and they came from their original countries from all over the world most of them with their own well! must think how to return their countries and not taking the palestenian homes and land so syrian jew is a syrian ,american jew is american and chinese jew is a chinese .
yes you should also remember that the Palestinian identity was only created in the late 1960's, these people had nationalities before, and i think u forget the point of the creation of states in the middle east, its to give people with land a country, and this happened by breaking up the ottoman empire, would it make sense to give syrians another state? arabians another state?
i dont think you realise the prosecutions jews were under in Russia, and other eastern European states at the time, the jews in concentration camps had no where to go, and here's this land that where's there no country, and the land is widely uninhabited, there are already jewish communities willing to absorb these jews, and yet you think its unfaire because? no arabs were displaced when this happened, no country was demographically changed, all this came during/after the arabs started a war
i want u to re-read the history of the creation of izrael you would see that a lot of help it came that time to the idf from the soviet union under the stalin regime of course with other helps from the wastern countries.for that PLAESTINE WAS UNINHABTED how it comes with the displaced and expelled 850000 palestenian refugees!
no matter how many times i read it it still says the only country that supplied Israel arms was Czechoslovakia which wasn't part of the Soviet Union, and regardless of that my point is really debated here is it, he said Israel exists because of Western Democracies, well i said this is hard to believe considering they imposed trade embargo's on Israel, well Arabs were flying Spitfires from the British, which nothing Czechoslovakia can match the sophisticated weapons the Arabs were getting
funny how no mention of Palestinians killing jews, or any mention of the heinous crimes they commited, you act as if its only been Israel whose been killing Palestinians, have u looked into the case of expulsion? those homes were illegaly built, try and build a home in your democractic country without consent and see what happens to it. and the expelling happened over 60 years ago, shall we go into your countries history and what its built off of?
am against any killing whether the victim is jew or muslim or christian or,,,,,,,,, any killing of a human is a crime. but look as a human being far from hatred and religions u would seee that the suffering of palestenians now its like and even more than the suffering of the jews in the NAZI GERMANY
are u insane, the jews were literally being worked to death in nazi concentration camps, stripped of any human rights, Palestinians have a self autonomous state, you should understand the situation in Gaza is a result of the state of war that Hamas and Israel are in that leaves Israel no choice but to use its international right to impose an embargo on a warring state, and i guess you dont realise the advancements in the West Bank or there booming economy either.
democractic means basically majority rule, has nothing to do with demolishing homes, or expelling anybody unless its within the country, but since Palestinians have a self autonomous state there isn't much of a debate on it.
and i guess u dont know what a massacre is, it means killings were indiscriminate, which they weren't or there wouldn't have been anything from stopping the number of civilian death from reaching the a couple of hundred thousand compared to a couple of hundred
thats the point ,(democracy) in izrael based in which religion you are !!!!!!!! firsttly ,secondly demolishing homes of native palestenians and expelling them from their homes and cities and villages at the 1948 was a great human deed ! the masacres in : 1-deir yasin,2-kufir kasim3-salha4-sasa,and other macacres of palestenian civilians is PUBLIC RELATION !
again referring to 1948 as if Israeli's will say ok im wrong let me just get my bags and ill be on my way, there's a saying that just like every child is born in sin so is every country. i mean majority of the middle east was only born because of WW1. such talk is completely ignorant and only distracts one from the problems in the region today. the fact is Right of Return isn't feasible, and Jerusalem was never a Palestinian city as it was deemed international until Jordan occupied it,
Deir Yassin BTW wasn't a massacre, i think you should read but Deir Yasin was housing not only ammunition but foreign soldiers, where Sniping at the jewish quarter in Bet Hakerem and Yefe Nof were being done from Dier Yasin, so its not a massacre again its collateral Damage of a battle that the town of Dier Yasin placed themselves in
RUBIN do you realy believe that you as a jews are chosen and the others are simply gyuim ! so for u god made the jews humans-masters and the other people in the world slaves for them!thats why for you our blood is cheap and our killing is a (colateral damage!)and the (right of return to our houses )before the 1948 is not( feasable)
thats not what gods chosen people mean, it means the moral responsability of spreading gods light into the world. if you actually took the time and read on it, you'd see the how the book refers to god as light, and ego as darkness
a palestenian poet asked himself THEY RAPE MY MOTHER( PALESTINE) AND THE RESULT IS A ACHILD IS HE MY BROTHER? . for me yes he is my brother thats you rubin i dont want u to leave i want my right to my mother which is now u want it alone ! i have to accept you and you have to accept me simply! you dont belong more than me not moraly not legaly so hard formula for both!!
The problem isn't a Palestinian state, you could have a Palestinian state today, and its funny how u continue to bring up religion, when its your religion that prevents this state from happening, why the demand on Jerusalem? it wasn't partioned to Palestine and never belonged to u guys, so you guys base statehood on a expansional ideals and then critisize Israel for doing the same, maybe u can help me out and enlighten me but i only look at your wants as either symbolic or religous for jerusalem
my friend no body is chosen from god! the choice is ours and only ours are we comitted as humans to justice ,peace and love or a chain of hatred never stoped and by the end izrael to exist needs MORAL BASE force with no juctice never wins in the opposite by the end the lost would be huge then!
it is a bit ironic that someone would make an ignorant statement like no body is gods chosen people! and then talk about Morals, peace and justice well misquoting a something from the bible as a means to not only de-legitimize Israel but all jews in the world. my friend the problem with the world is in all of us, as long as we continue with the ignorance you display this world would be doomed, only through understanding can we ever progress to a peaceful, unfortunately were not peaceful beings
Zionist, if you and your people are "God's chosen People" why doesn't your God provide for you? Why do you have to live off the US welfare system? Why do you have to steal Palestinian land? Why do you have to steal Syrian Land? Why do you have to steal Lebanese land? Why did you kill Jesus?
lol r u serious? 1st off Israel's economy makes a surplus, although i doubt u know what that means, so they dont live off of US' money, what that money is needed for is for its security seeing how America gives 6 times more weapons to Israel's enemies then Israel itself, and land that is taken in war isn't justified under international law, its not stealing when taking strategic points in war, and the Romans killed Jesus, ur an idiot if u actually believe the jews forced the Romans to crucifyHIM
Do you remember, On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.
sorry but i fail to see the relevance of this, it has nothing to do with whats going on today, i dont care to debate such a meaningless topic, and u dont even address key points, seems like all u anti-semetic loons always find a way to avoid the serious questions, like the need for jerusalem to be a Palestinian capital, or the demand for israel to demographically destroy itself in reparations for the Nakba, and how you think this is logical
. there are over 100 UN security Counsel resolutions pending against the Jewish state for Illegally Occupying Palestine, Syria and Lebanon. The resolutions demand immediate withdrawal, What Part Of Withdraw do you not Understand?
@senyah5 you the Israelis must withdraw to the moon right? and then what? who will be next? what would the arabs do without Israel? kill all the world and then themselfs!
Remember?The attack on Jerusalem's King David Hotel July 22, 1946 by the underground Jewish group Irgun led, by Menachem Begin, was by far the most extraordinary terrorist act against British authority in Palestine, both for number of casualties and for its political significance. 91 people were killed by this cowardly attack committed by the Jewish Zionist terrorist group led by former prime minister of Israel Menachem Begin.
@senyah5 The fact that you have to go back to 1946 for an Israeli "terrorist attack" which had the warning prior to the bombing .. unlike ALL of the MANY MANY suicide bomb attacks by the Palestininais.. Sbarros.. Ben Yehuda Mall , the Mahane Yehuda Market place, bus bombings etc etc etc.. come on.. ALL had INNOCENT women and children on there. SHAME.
@senyah5 And when the Hashemites overran East Jerusalem and expelled the residents of the Jewish Quarter - why didn the UN pass a resolution condemning the illegal seizure of Palestinian land?
And when the Hashemites overran Gaza, and took over the territory - why didn the UN pass a resolution condemning the illegal seizure of Palestinian land?
Where were the resolutions defending Palestinian rights then?
We really dont know really what was happening, and what the Americans were doing there? Israel was at war and her survival was at stake, as ity is now, with all American friendship.
Were the Twin Towers at ground zero threaterning the Muslim world??
The Timnes Swuare bomber was not a lone crazy guy? What bothered him??
The Christmas plane underwear bomber, what was bothering him?
Could the Obama White house be enabling and enboldening them?
@sarahgittel You may not know what was happenning, but the survivors of Israel's brutal attack on the USS Liberty know exactly what happened, you can read their story on the USS Liberty memorial website. The website is dedicated to the memory of the brave men who were slaughtered by Israel.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
. there are over 100 UN security Counsel resolutions pending against the Jewish state for Illegally Occupying Palestine, Syria and Lebanon. The resolutions demand immediate withdrawal. What Part Of Withdraw do you not Understand?
@senyah5 I am trying to learn about this conflict and heard that Israel was illegally occupying Palestine. Do you have a source for those resolutions you mentioned?
@philhunter2005 Just google UN resolutions against israel and you can see that Israel is in violation of more UN security counsel resolutions than all the other countries in the world combined.
@senyah5 What I don´t understand is: once the Arab nations rejected the UN resolution to partition Palestine into a Jewsih and an Arab state, why di that not end any subsequent claim by the Arabs on Israeli land?
Once they rejected the UN decision, anything that stemmed from the resolution (i.e., any annd all resolutions stemming from illegal land claims) are without basis.
When Jordan returns the land to the Palestinians, perhaps we can talk.
lol again with that quote, how ignorant can u be? a land for the jews is as justifiable in itself as the Hashemites getting Jordan(90% of the population there is Palestinian) there was no such thing as a Palestinian then until 1960's, so it makes sense why the balfour declaration was made, even then the jews had to split it with the arabs in the land, well the Hashemites didn't have to give anything
In the five months between the adoption of the UN partition plan in November 1947 and the declaration of independence of Israel in May 1948 1,256 Jews had been killed, most of them civilians. These deaths were caused by Arab militias, gangs, terrorists, and army units which attacked every place of Jewish habitation.
Between the declaration of creation of Israel in November of 1947 for United Nations and the declaration of independence in May of 1948 1256 jews had been assassinated!!
chrristians are the butchers/slaves from the zionist. Well we all know how much the zionst is hating the christians!! take care! and wake up!! stop killing for them, don"t be one of them tools!
I am personally not so fond of islam or any organized religion myself.
But I think people need to have a bit cultural understanding to know how to
confront islam, when its needed. The arab culture, I think, has been affected by European culture, and so forth, but has still hold its tradition in submitting to islam. I think only by understanding you can change different cultures, not "us and them".
I am not muslim or jewish I am not religiouse at all. God is man made Moses and the Israelites were high on drugs when god spoke two naturally existing plants in the Sinai Peninsula
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. Read your bible
Profit Mohammed, was chased by Jews and it is written in the Qur'an ( our holy book ) tell ur Muslim friends to research more, or if u are just lying and looking on the internet its bullshit...
In my religion we don't accept gays and thats not ur problem.. we don't "behead" any gar christians so why do u give a fuck? we don't even behead gay Muslims, get over urself
Dude, first of all u are more than silly, and its kinda gay
second, Mohammed was chased by Jews until he was dead, who do u think killed him? and how dare u say that he was vile to start the religion? how rude can u get? Hitler was Christian, and I didn't respect anything he did AT ALL, but the Jews are doing to us what he did to them ...
and Mohammed was not vile, he was promoting peace around the region, don't give any fake info to people in ur surroundings, they will just laugh
No ur right i wasn't there 80 to 1300 years ago, but my ancestors were, my ancestors were the people who started the whole country, and from generation to generation they spoke about how Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived in peace, until the greedy Zionists came from Germany, and wanted to take it all, u are doing to the Palestinians what the German's did to u, look at what happened in Gaza, half the rockets Israel used was illegal, Hamas used fireworks compared ur
Count I: Principles of Nuremberg, Principle VI (c) Crimes Against Humanity;
Count II: Genocide Convention Article II (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of lif calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
In the State of Israel all citizens - Jew and Arab alike - are equal before the law. Israel has none of the apartheid legislative machinery devised to discriminate against and to separate people. It has no Population Registration Act, no Group Areas Act, no Mixed Marriages and Immorality Act, no Separate Representation of Voters Act, no Separate Amenities Act, no pass laws or any other of the myriad apartheid laws.
On the contrary: Israel is a vibrant liberal democracy which accords full political, civil and other human rights to all its people, including its one million-plus Arab citizens, many of whom hold positions of authority throughout the Jewish state - including that of cabinet minister, Knesset member and judge at every level of the judiciary, the Supreme Court included.
You know what is Apartheid? Where is the connection between Israel and Apartheid? I already debunked that Israel is a racist state. You are repeating yourself. You believe it will turn true when simply repeating the same lies over and over again? The wall between gaza and Egypt was built by EGYPT. Why? Because they don't want terrorists either. Hmmm, "dubble" standard.
Nice argument... I would never disqualify any Jew over the criminal acts of the Zionist clan ruling Israel...Never...
Sharon declared ones in an interview, he doesnt believe in any God... So by religion they are non Jewish... And so, the historical motive is irrelevant to them...
No argument at all. Jews are not only a religion but also a PEOPLE. If Sharon doesn't believe in G-d (please give reference) then it doesn't mean he is not Jewish anymore as he is part of the Jewish people. the historical motive is not only a religious one but also one supported by countless archaeological evidences. Miqdash Al-Quds, the arabic name for Jerusalem, is yet another proof...
With a statement such as "If the Israelis were not all fascists in May 1948
they surely are,today... ...... in May 2008" you are really making a fool of yourself. This can be debunked sooo easily. All one has to do is to read the declaration of independence of Israel where it says:
"Israel [...] will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex."
Find me such a statement in the Arab world. I await your reply^^
Zionism doesn't refer only to the establishment for a Jew-home... Zionism has many double Agenda's...We'll see, what the Neocon's and Israel will do against Iran...
I guess you will not be able to give us a plausible reply to my scientific evidence as you are totally blinded by your fucked up hatred towards the Jewish people. I wonder why! You own 99% of the Middle East. Could it be that you are a greedy bunch of retarded ragheads? Without the west (yeah, right!!!) you would still be wandering around, living in tents using camel shit for making fires. think about it!
If you are from the U.S. much of your land was simply stolen from the Indians. At least the Jews paid for most of their land. In other instances the Palestinians were urged to leave by Arab leadership so that the Arab nations could wage war on Israel and were told that they could come back and assume ownership of the land and assets of the vanquished Jews. They gambled and they lost so I don't feel bad for them at all.
In the new testament the term Palestine is never used (in the years 140 to 45 AD) -- only the term Israel. (Matt 2:20) The Old Testament (Hebrew bible), which dates back at least 4,000 years, refers to it as Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel) among several other names (but the most prominent name used is Israel (Ezekiel 37:11)
Oswaldo Aranha are slave from shaytan! Brazilian people are ashamed of Mr.. Oswaldo Aranha! We do not recognize the state of Israel. Allahu akbar
saguidaserra1 5 months ago
Let's stop arguing and take concrete action to spread peace in this world!
Simple suggestion: Go to website w w w dot avaaz dot org, and sign the petition for Palestine. Tell all your friends and post on your facebook. Love to everyone, hatred for none
mvv10 6 months ago
proof of why hitler only killed jews
F3ARR1 1 year ago
No, Israel should not exist
xArmyxFiancex1990 1 year ago
VIVA PALESTINE
xArmyxFiancex1990 1 year ago
Notice at 59 thePalestine Post. Palestinians is not a reality Arab people
sarahgittel 1 year ago
Some have claimed that Palestinians descended from the Jebusites. It has appeared in the Palestinian Encyclopedia and in Palestinian Authority school textbooks. The claim is used as an attempt to prove a connection between Palestinians and Jerusalem that predates the Muslim conquest.[31] There is, however, no archaeological evidence linking the Arab-Palestinians of today with the Jebusites of the Canaanite period.[29][31]
cmto3 1 year ago
@cmto3 Dude do you remember? On 16 March 2003 in Rafah, occupied Gaza, 23-year-old American peace activist Rachel Corrie from Olympia, Washington, was murdered by an Israeli bulldozer driver. Rachel was in Gaza opposing the bulldozing of a Palestinian home as a volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement
senyah5 1 year ago
@senyah5 - Ah, do you remember she put herself in harms way? Do you remember the suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Mahane Yehuda market place in Sept 1997, and in the Ben Yehuda Mall a week later. Or maybe you forgot about the Sbarro bombings killing innocent ppl including a pregnant mother from the US. Or maybe you forgot about Tali who was pregnant who was shot in the head along with her 5 CHILDREN!!!!.. Or maybe you forgot about the rockets hitting KINDERGARTENS in SDEROT.
cmto3 1 year ago
@senyah5 - One more thing.Rachel Corrie was an American member of the International Solidarity Movement killed in 2003 in Gaza by an IDF bulldozer, whose driver DID NOT SEE HER STANDING IN IT'S WAY to prevent demolition of an Arab home.The Israeli military ruled that this was an accident and ISM members accused the driver of murder even before the military could investigate the incident.
cmto3 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Wherever ISM members mingled and even lived among Gaza and West Bank Arabs, it is possible that many of these Arabs were terrorists or helped the terrorists by feeding and housing them. The ISM'ers could have been at gatherings where they were introduced to suspected terrorists, heard stories about violent activities or noticed otherwise suspicious activity.Actually, there is not only evidence, but proof of ISM aiding and abetting terrorists.
cmto3 1 year ago
One more thing, If you put it all together, a reasonable person must conclude that the ISM members knew they were aiding and abetting terrorists.
cmto3 1 year ago
@cmto3 The attack on Jerusalem's King David Hotel July 22, 1946 by the underground Jewish group Irgun led, by Menachem Begin, was by far the most extraordinary terrorist act against British authority in Palestine, both for number of casualties and for its political significance. 91 people were killed by this cowardly attack committed by the Jewish Zionist terrorist group led by former prime minister of Israel Menachem Begin.
senyah5 1 year ago
@senyah5 - 1. Not condoning. 2. There were over 1,000 dead due to suicide bombers between the years of 2000-2004. and many many more attacks since.
3. How many zionist bombings can you name in the last 60 years???? 4. How many bombings did the zionists actually do that PURPOSELY went in to kill innocent women and children??????????
cmto3 1 year ago
@senyah5 During the British Mandate, the entire southern wing became the administrative and MILITARY CENTER of British rule in Palestine and was blown up in July 1946 by the Irgun.
It was NOT like the SUICIDE BOMBERS who PURPOSELY went in to kill INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Nice try.
cmto3 1 year ago
@cmto3 Dude, Remember in 2004 Two Israelis Spies, tried to enter Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, home to eight Trident submarines. located in the United States adjacent to the town of St. Mary’s in Camden County, Georgia. The truck tests positive for explosives
senyah5 1 year ago
@senyah5 - Dude, remember the massacres by the Arabs in the 1920's on the Jews, remember that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem conspired with Hitler to wipe all Jews out before the establishment of the state of israel!! Remember Alisa Flatow that was killed in a bus bombing in 1995. She was an innocent American student. Remember the many many other suicide bombs, Try 26,500 between 2000-2005. and the tractor attacks, and stabbings, and shootings.
cmto3 1 year ago
@senyah5 Oh and Remember the Muslim "psychologist" who went into Fort Hood RANDOMLY shooting at INNOCENT people last year.
and let's not forget SEPTEMPER 11,2001 where 3,000 people were killed in the world trade center attack and ARABS IN GAZA were PARTYING and GIVING OUT CANDY in CELEBRATION !!!!!!!
cmto3 1 year ago
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@cmto3 You want us to believe palestine is the promised land to the jews, you also want us to believe jesus is not the messiah, according to the jews!!! So in addition to wiping Palestine off the map your trying to wipe Christianity off the Map
senyah5 1 year ago
@cmto3 mate you are a media sheep.You get told muslim extreemists did it and you believe it
pinball281 1 year ago
@cmto3 That video was DEBUNKED!!! It turned out that they were NOT PALESTINIANS, they were Iraqi's Celebrating the the HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN. Bloody hell, you Zionists are really becoming slow. Catch up with the real world.
Free Palestine From the ANTI-SEMETIC ZIONIST BASTARDS who only hurt NATIVE SEMETIC PALESTINIANS.
universalstudios13 1 year ago
@universalstudios13 Actually, the Jews were there before the Arabs and before the advent of Islam. So historically, the Jews are the natives and the Arabs and Muslims the late coming invaders. In any case, the two peoples can live together in peace as soon as the Arabs end their war against Israel. Peace.
tuberutoo 1 year ago
@tuberutoo Your wrong mate. By definition, the Palestinians that exist in Palestine/Israel today and were born there are NATIVE. Please read a dictionary.
"So historically, the Jews are the natives and the Arabs and Muslims the late coming invaders."
Give me a break mate, so where did the "Jews" leave to? And if they did leave, why would Jews have lived amongst Arabs pre 1900's?
Oh yeah, and by your definition, what is Jewish? Race or Religion?
Free THE SEMITES!!!
universalstudios13 1 year ago
@universalstudios13 Jewish is both Race and Religion which are bound to the land of Israel./
sarahgittel 1 year ago
@universalstudios13 most palestinians are arab immagrants that came between 1880 and 1948 due mainly to economical reasons . prior to 1880 when mass jewish immagration started the land was sparcly populated and there were about 100-150k people. there was always a jewish presence in israel , for example in 1900 the jews were the largest communitee in Jerusalem ( not muslim arabs!!!). things round here are not as black and white as they seem from far away.
nazareneson37 9 months ago
Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947;
cmto3 1 year ago
Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.
cmto3 1 year ago
Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.
cmto3 1 year ago
Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:
cmto3 1 year ago
The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.
cmto3 1 year ago
@krepIach2 yeah, but in 1882, there were barely 250,000!!!!
cmto3 1 year ago
It should also be known that President Mahmoud Abbas himself was born from SYRIAN parents who came to the country in the 1910's..
cmto3 1 year ago
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@cmto3
"President Mahmoud Abbas himself was born from SYRIAN parents who came to the country in the 1910's.. "
You super historian where did you get this info from?
montezoma 1 year ago
@krepIach2 The rise of the Yishuv benefited Arab life indirectly , by disproportionate Jewish contributions to gov't revenues and thereby increased mandatory expenditures in the Arab sectors and directly by opening new Markets for Arab produce and (until the civil war of 1936)new employment oppurtunities for Arab labor
cmto3 1 year ago
@krepIach2 .Submarginal as the conditions were they were immeasurably better than those of the nearby Moslem countries elsewhere in the middle east.The increase of popl was not at all natural, the influx could be traced to the orderly govt from the British. but for more certainly the economic oppurtunities made possible by the Jewish settlement. (p.167 A History of Israel, from zionism to modern time by Howard M. Sachar)
cmto3 1 year ago
1. Who says that it was correct for the Ottomans to take over the land? 2. There were only 250,000 Arabs in 1882. Yet by 1914, the number nearly doubled and by 1920 it reached 600,000. Under the mandate of Britian it grew dramatically climbing to 840,000 by 1931 and representing 81 percent of the population. While the Moslems were the majority , they lived mainly in the hilly northern and central regions of the country. Population increase was 118% bet 1922-1946
cmto3 1 year ago
@krepIach2 , they weren't racist comments.. just facts.. Gazans get plenty of money from all around the world.. don't know where you get the money from.. and FYI.. the jews were FIRST in the ME before they ever got to Europe.. ever wonder where the 800,000 that were in Iran , Iraq ,Yemen came from???? Those were not far from ISRAEL.. the country was desolate and they needed to eat. Palestinians didn't come there til the 1890's due to jewish economic prosperity.
cmto3 1 year ago
@krepIach2 so that the American economy can grow.. they don't get any real money but "coupons" to buy American weapons to keep the American economy going..
and FYI.. Palestinians who get BILLIONS also have hotels etc.
cmto3 1 year ago
@krepIach2 There is no occupation by the Israelis , but by the Palestinians ... squatters who came in the early 1900's claiming to have been there "thousands " of years.. one minute they are Arabs and the next minute they are Jebusites.. and the next minute they are born from intermarriage with jews.. WHO are they"?
cmto3 1 year ago
The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live.”
— PLO spokesman Mahmud Abbas (“Abu Mazen”),
Falastin a-Thaura, March 1976
cmto3 1 year ago
isreals days are numbered
salem61 1 year ago
@salem61 when will come the last day of israel do know this thet ther will not be one plase in the holl world free of rediashon
zoroozed 1 year ago
@salem61,
I bet you that's the same they said during the 6-day war! lol
XboxFreakboy 1 year ago
@salem61 ah ah ah ah ah ah
0015100151 1 year ago
people interested in the UN security council resolutions should visit
the website of the UN security council resolutions
before screaming like spoiled kids
mrheryou 1 year ago
Well, 56 Muslim states and about 50 "3rd world states" are more than 1 Israel. The UN is not fair ground to play politics. If the Muslim want than the world is plato.... at least according to the UN !
Salamwamat 1 year ago
Look at the original proposal to this empty state. and then to moslem pressure it was carved up to give israel borders it could not defend. but as usual instead of seeking peace moslem mentality is to fight and they got their moslem asses kicked 48 56 67 72 06 09 and so it goes on stop gambling and you wont loose.....simple
IWANTADINNERJACKET 1 year ago
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Palestinian leaders committed big mistakes. They refused to establish their own state in 1947 when the United Nations decided on the creation of two states in the British colony of Palestine. In 2000, Arafat refused again to establish the Palestinian state in the negotiations at Camp David with Israel prime minister and president Clinton. History shows that this policy of refusal was disastrous for his people. And now Instead of joining forces the Hamas and Fatah are killing each other.
chingungala 2 years ago
Islam is a totalitarian sociel system hiding behind the term "religion". In fact, it is mere pan arabism!
rapartist43 2 years ago
I like Jews. I am Jews. My family and children and city and whole country are Jews. We are here to stay, we have the world's best minds, top science and haha the strongest army - so my dear Jew-haters, it's time you started internalizing the idea that we are here to stay, which is not someone can say for you once the west sucks you dry of oil!
wojiaokatya 2 years ago
you are a jew its ok but you are not a nation !if u look to history arabs treated the jews very good in all their history until zionizim came and brainwash the jews .the jews are their first victim they make a fake nation with a fake state!ironically treating the palestenians worse than the NAZIS treated them!
omarshereef 2 years ago
jee thanks for saying it's ok I'm a jew
whoever asked you
what you're saying is so cheap it's not even propaganda, just meaningless screams
wojiaokatya 2 years ago
nazis treated the palestinians really well, you're right, the wonderful Mufti of Jerusalem was a supporter of Hitler
all of the arab nations had a lot in common with Nazi Germany
wojiaokatya 2 years ago
check the agreement between the nazi goverment and the zionists in germany THE HAVARA TRANSFER AGREEMENT with HAIM ALSOROF u would see who support the nazis causing later the tragedy of hollocaust ,palestenians had nothing to do with that HAPPY HANUKA REGARDS.
omarshereef 2 years ago
how is an agreement of letting persecuted jews emigrate to Palestine a cause for the Haulocaust? this wasn't in support of Nazi's it was a way for them to escape
JRubin86 2 years ago
i guess you forget the part where Muhammed forced conversion of jews or killed them
JRubin86 2 years ago
so you admit that the native palestenians are the real people of palestine (and if once their was a jews in palestine ,the palestenian people wether are muslims or christians and palestenian jews (around 2 % of the palestenian population in the begining of the century )converted or not are the the original people of of PALESTINE not russians ethiopians and............
omarshereef 2 years ago
No 1st there is about 500,000 indigenous Jews living in Israel, which means they never left, that consists of 7.1%, if u include the WB and the Gaza and that falls to about 4%.
now Palestinians are of Arabic decent, Arabic culture never touched the holly land until after the 2nd century, thats why there's archeological finding to support any indigenous Palestinians, you can also pick up your bible or Quran, both specifically link Jews to the holly land. need i say more?
JRubin86 2 years ago
i dont believe that religion and only religion make a nation!i respect the freedom of believe and human rights . as you see bin ladein also wants to make like the zionists his own country and nation based in religion which is not correct.are you with him! peace to be achieved needs justice not zionizin not bin ladin
omarshereef 2 years ago
I guess you didn't know this but Israel is a secular country, based on democracy not religion.
JRubin86 2 years ago
IZRAEL secular and democratic realy you make me laugh!all these masacres and killing OF palestenians more than 60 years ,expelling and domilishing of their homes seems very democratic and secular.man wake up the zionist crimes cant be hidden forever !u need to have peace in your souls and human if u want to exist !thats the life and history believe me!
omarshereef 2 years ago
give me a break, calling anything that has happened a massacre just discredits any previous massacre's that has taken place, the point is Israeli's dont kill indiscrimantly, if they did there's nothing stopping the death toll's from reach the 100,000's compared to 1000 death during time of war, which is laughable comparing it to any war thus far, i mean 400,000 died in Darfur, the Rwanda massacre's, these were massacre's, 500 civilians dying in time of war isn't a massacre, its collateral dmg.
JRubin86 2 years ago
man you displaced 850000 palestenian refugees took their homes destroyed more than 450 villages and cities at the 1948 what u call that democratic! i want u to check your references BENNY MORIC ,LLAN PAPPE AND OTHERS.EVERY PALESTENIAN REFUGEE AND HISS DECEDENTS have the full right of his home and to return home back much more than a russian or american or even arab jew ,jews with my respect had their homes and their countriesthey are a religion and not a nation!!
omarshereef 2 years ago
the internationally recognized number is 750,000 Palestinian refugee's from the 1948 war, i dont hear any out cry for the 1,000,000(internationally recognized figure) jewish refugee's being expelled from Muslim countries or anything about there compensation. never the less this point is redundant because even pro palestinian scholars like Chomsky admit that the Right of Return is not feasable, never the less maybe u should look at your own countries history and the autrocities they commited
JRubin86 2 years ago
yes you are right to a certain point to call arab jews refugees .for me all the jews who came from all over the world are( refugees in palestine) ) and they came from their original countries from all over the world most of them with their own well! must think how to return their countries and not taking the palestenian homes and land so syrian jew is a syrian ,american jew is american and chinese jew is a chinese .
omarshereef 2 years ago
yes you should also remember that the Palestinian identity was only created in the late 1960's, these people had nationalities before, and i think u forget the point of the creation of states in the middle east, its to give people with land a country, and this happened by breaking up the ottoman empire, would it make sense to give syrians another state? arabians another state?
JRubin86 2 years ago
i dont think you realise the prosecutions jews were under in Russia, and other eastern European states at the time, the jews in concentration camps had no where to go, and here's this land that where's there no country, and the land is widely uninhabited, there are already jewish communities willing to absorb these jews, and yet you think its unfaire because? no arabs were displaced when this happened, no country was demographically changed, all this came during/after the arabs started a war
JRubin86 2 years ago
i want u to re-read the history of the creation of izrael you would see that a lot of help it came that time to the idf from the soviet union under the stalin regime of course with other helps from the wastern countries.for that PLAESTINE WAS UNINHABTED how it comes with the displaced and expelled 850000 palestenian refugees!
omarshereef 2 years ago
no matter how many times i read it it still says the only country that supplied Israel arms was Czechoslovakia which wasn't part of the Soviet Union, and regardless of that my point is really debated here is it, he said Israel exists because of Western Democracies, well i said this is hard to believe considering they imposed trade embargo's on Israel, well Arabs were flying Spitfires from the British, which nothing Czechoslovakia can match the sophisticated weapons the Arabs were getting
JRubin86 2 years ago
funny how no mention of Palestinians killing jews, or any mention of the heinous crimes they commited, you act as if its only been Israel whose been killing Palestinians, have u looked into the case of expulsion? those homes were illegaly built, try and build a home in your democractic country without consent and see what happens to it. and the expelling happened over 60 years ago, shall we go into your countries history and what its built off of?
JRubin86 2 years ago
am against any killing whether the victim is jew or muslim or christian or,,,,,,,,, any killing of a human is a crime. but look as a human being far from hatred and religions u would seee that the suffering of palestenians now its like and even more than the suffering of the jews in the NAZI GERMANY
omarshereef 2 years ago
are u insane, the jews were literally being worked to death in nazi concentration camps, stripped of any human rights, Palestinians have a self autonomous state, you should understand the situation in Gaza is a result of the state of war that Hamas and Israel are in that leaves Israel no choice but to use its international right to impose an embargo on a warring state, and i guess you dont realise the advancements in the West Bank or there booming economy either.
JRubin86 2 years ago
democractic means basically majority rule, has nothing to do with demolishing homes, or expelling anybody unless its within the country, but since Palestinians have a self autonomous state there isn't much of a debate on it.
and i guess u dont know what a massacre is, it means killings were indiscriminate, which they weren't or there wouldn't have been anything from stopping the number of civilian death from reaching the a couple of hundred thousand compared to a couple of hundred
JRubin86 2 years ago
thats the point ,(democracy) in izrael based in which religion you are !!!!!!!! firsttly ,secondly demolishing homes of native palestenians and expelling them from their homes and cities and villages at the 1948 was a great human deed ! the masacres in : 1-deir yasin,2-kufir kasim3-salha4-sasa,and other macacres of palestenian civilians is PUBLIC RELATION !
omarshereef 2 years ago
again referring to 1948 as if Israeli's will say ok im wrong let me just get my bags and ill be on my way, there's a saying that just like every child is born in sin so is every country. i mean majority of the middle east was only born because of WW1. such talk is completely ignorant and only distracts one from the problems in the region today. the fact is Right of Return isn't feasible, and Jerusalem was never a Palestinian city as it was deemed international until Jordan occupied it,
JRubin86 2 years ago
Deir Yassin BTW wasn't a massacre, i think you should read but Deir Yasin was housing not only ammunition but foreign soldiers, where Sniping at the jewish quarter in Bet Hakerem and Yefe Nof were being done from Dier Yasin, so its not a massacre again its collateral Damage of a battle that the town of Dier Yasin placed themselves in
JRubin86 2 years ago
RUBIN do you realy believe that you as a jews are chosen and the others are simply gyuim ! so for u god made the jews humans-masters and the other people in the world slaves for them!thats why for you our blood is cheap and our killing is a (colateral damage!)and the (right of return to our houses )before the 1948 is not( feasable)
omarshereef 2 years ago
thats not what gods chosen people mean, it means the moral responsability of spreading gods light into the world. if you actually took the time and read on it, you'd see the how the book refers to god as light, and ego as darkness
JRubin86 2 years ago
a palestenian poet asked himself THEY RAPE MY MOTHER( PALESTINE) AND THE RESULT IS A ACHILD IS HE MY BROTHER? . for me yes he is my brother thats you rubin i dont want u to leave i want my right to my mother which is now u want it alone ! i have to accept you and you have to accept me simply! you dont belong more than me not moraly not legaly so hard formula for both!!
omarshereef 2 years ago
The problem isn't a Palestinian state, you could have a Palestinian state today, and its funny how u continue to bring up religion, when its your religion that prevents this state from happening, why the demand on Jerusalem? it wasn't partioned to Palestine and never belonged to u guys, so you guys base statehood on a expansional ideals and then critisize Israel for doing the same, maybe u can help me out and enlighten me but i only look at your wants as either symbolic or religous for jerusalem
JRubin86 2 years ago
my friend no body is chosen from god! the choice is ours and only ours are we comitted as humans to justice ,peace and love or a chain of hatred never stoped and by the end izrael to exist needs MORAL BASE force with no juctice never wins in the opposite by the end the lost would be huge then!
omarshereef 2 years ago
it is a bit ironic that someone would make an ignorant statement like no body is gods chosen people! and then talk about Morals, peace and justice well misquoting a something from the bible as a means to not only de-legitimize Israel but all jews in the world. my friend the problem with the world is in all of us, as long as we continue with the ignorance you display this world would be doomed, only through understanding can we ever progress to a peaceful, unfortunately were not peaceful beings
JRubin86 2 years ago
Zionist, if you and your people are "God's chosen People" why doesn't your God provide for you? Why do you have to live off the US welfare system? Why do you have to steal Palestinian land? Why do you have to steal Syrian Land? Why do you have to steal Lebanese land? Why did you kill Jesus?
senyah5 2 years ago
lol r u serious? 1st off Israel's economy makes a surplus, although i doubt u know what that means, so they dont live off of US' money, what that money is needed for is for its security seeing how America gives 6 times more weapons to Israel's enemies then Israel itself, and land that is taken in war isn't justified under international law, its not stealing when taking strategic points in war, and the Romans killed Jesus, ur an idiot if u actually believe the jews forced the Romans to crucifyHIM
JRubin86 2 years ago
Sorry i mean Land that is taken in war *is* justified under international law
JRubin86 2 years ago
Do you remember, On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.
senyah5 2 years ago 9
sorry but i fail to see the relevance of this, it has nothing to do with whats going on today, i dont care to debate such a meaningless topic, and u dont even address key points, seems like all u anti-semetic loons always find a way to avoid the serious questions, like the need for jerusalem to be a Palestinian capital, or the demand for israel to demographically destroy itself in reparations for the Nakba, and how you think this is logical
JRubin86 2 years ago
. there are over 100 UN security Counsel resolutions pending against the Jewish state for Illegally Occupying Palestine, Syria and Lebanon. The resolutions demand immediate withdrawal, What Part Of Withdraw do you not Understand?
senyah5 2 years ago 2
@senyah5 you the Israelis must withdraw to the moon right? and then what? who will be next? what would the arabs do without Israel? kill all the world and then themselfs!
hardfactsforever 1 year ago
@hardfactsforever
Remember?The attack on Jerusalem's King David Hotel July 22, 1946 by the underground Jewish group Irgun led, by Menachem Begin, was by far the most extraordinary terrorist act against British authority in Palestine, both for number of casualties and for its political significance. 91 people were killed by this cowardly attack committed by the Jewish Zionist terrorist group led by former prime minister of Israel Menachem Begin.
senyah5 1 year ago
@senyah5 The fact that you have to go back to 1946 for an Israeli "terrorist attack" which had the warning prior to the bombing .. unlike ALL of the MANY MANY suicide bomb attacks by the Palestininais.. Sbarros.. Ben Yehuda Mall , the Mahane Yehuda Market place, bus bombings etc etc etc.. come on.. ALL had INNOCENT women and children on there. SHAME.
cmto3 1 year ago
@senyah5 And when the Hashemites overran East Jerusalem and expelled the residents of the Jewish Quarter - why didn the UN pass a resolution condemning the illegal seizure of Palestinian land?
And when the Hashemites overran Gaza, and took over the territory - why didn the UN pass a resolution condemning the illegal seizure of Palestinian land?
Where were the resolutions defending Palestinian rights then?
stephanepereire 1 year ago
such garbage, it was UNMARKED.. such propaganda.. notice you pick something that happened 43 years ago and not ANYTHING recent.
cmto3 1 year ago
@senyah5
We really dont know really what was happening, and what the Americans were doing there? Israel was at war and her survival was at stake, as ity is now, with all American friendship.
Were the Twin Towers at ground zero threaterning the Muslim world??
The Timnes Swuare bomber was not a lone crazy guy? What bothered him??
The Christmas plane underwear bomber, what was bothering him?
Could the Obama White house be enabling and enboldening them?
These are some questions.
sarahgittel 1 year ago
@sarahgittel You may not know what was happenning, but the survivors of Israel's brutal attack on the USS Liberty know exactly what happened, you can read their story on the USS Liberty memorial website. The website is dedicated to the memory of the brave men who were slaughtered by Israel.
senyah5 1 year ago
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
senyah5 2 years ago 6
. there are over 100 UN security Counsel resolutions pending against the Jewish state for Illegally Occupying Palestine, Syria and Lebanon. The resolutions demand immediate withdrawal. What Part Of Withdraw do you not Understand?
senyah5 2 years ago 2
@senyah5 I am trying to learn about this conflict and heard that Israel was illegally occupying Palestine. Do you have a source for those resolutions you mentioned?
philhunter2005 1 year ago
@philhunter2005 Just google UN resolutions against israel and you can see that Israel is in violation of more UN security counsel resolutions than all the other countries in the world combined.
senyah5 1 year ago
@senyah5 - yeah, a bunch of anti semites making rules just to make israel look bad. AS IF they are objective people. Oh please...
cmto3 1 year ago
@senyah5 this is not true
mrheryou 1 year ago
@senyah5 What I don´t understand is: once the Arab nations rejected the UN resolution to partition Palestine into a Jewsih and an Arab state, why di that not end any subsequent claim by the Arabs on Israeli land?
Once they rejected the UN decision, anything that stemmed from the resolution (i.e., any annd all resolutions stemming from illegal land claims) are without basis.
When Jordan returns the land to the Palestinians, perhaps we can talk.
stephanepereire 1 year ago
lol again with that quote, how ignorant can u be? a land for the jews is as justifiable in itself as the Hashemites getting Jordan(90% of the population there is Palestinian) there was no such thing as a Palestinian then until 1960's, so it makes sense why the balfour declaration was made, even then the jews had to split it with the arabs in the land, well the Hashemites didn't have to give anything
JRubin86 2 years ago
In the five months between the adoption of the UN partition plan in November 1947 and the declaration of independence of Israel in May 1948 1,256 Jews had been killed, most of them civilians. These deaths were caused by Arab militias, gangs, terrorists, and army units which attacked every place of Jewish habitation.
Between the declaration of creation of Israel in November of 1947 for United Nations and the declaration of independence in May of 1948 1256 jews had been assassinated!!
Matutoboy 2 years ago
interesting video
montezoma 2 years ago
chrristians are the butchers/slaves from the zionist. Well we all know how much the zionst is hating the christians!! take care! and wake up!! stop killing for them, don"t be one of them tools!
aminataatje 2 years ago
I havent spammed u from anything, where do u get that from?!
And u call me childish?!
besmb2105 2 years ago
But if u stop sending me messages, than I wont send u.
"Shure there have been christians that have killed people. But christianity does not teach this as you claim"
Read from the old testament:
Leviticus, verse 19:
Thou shall not turn towards any idol, and not make urself any made images of gods".
besmb2105 2 years ago
Anyway, why post what Ive been writing, in public? Why is everyone that doesnt have anything to with it read it?
Thats - pun intented - childish.
besmb2105 2 years ago
Yes, because u did it first.
besmb2105 2 years ago
Our pagan forefather where killed for not beeing christian.
And pagans where killed during the crusades.
besmb2105 2 years ago
the acacia tree, frequently mentioned in the Bible, contains one of the most psychedelic substances known to man.
Even a description of Moses with "shining skin" is seen as a reference to the euphoric, sweat-inducing effects associated with drug use
debrabee 2 years ago
I am personally not so fond of islam or any organized religion myself.
But I think people need to have a bit cultural understanding to know how to
confront islam, when its needed. The arab culture, I think, has been affected by European culture, and so forth, but has still hold its tradition in submitting to islam. I think only by understanding you can change different cultures, not "us and them".
besmb2105 2 years ago
Do u have to pressume that people are this - and that, only when they happen to have a bit different view than u?
This is typical youtube.
More than typical. I have almost been called a zionist, for having an israeli flag on my profile. Now am I a zionist? No.
Do I support Israel Israels right to exist? Like any other country, of course.
Do I do that on behalf of the palestinians?
Of course I dont.
People seriously need to stop all these idiot accusations.
besmb2105 2 years ago
I am not muslim or jewish I am not religiouse at all. God is man made Moses and the Israelites were high on drugs when god spoke two naturally existing plants in the Sinai Peninsula
made into a drink called ayahuasca.
debrabee 2 years ago
"God is man made Moses and the Israelites were high on drugs when god spoke two naturally existing plants in the Sinai Peninsula."
lol, I heard that too.
besmb2105 2 years ago
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. Read your bible
debrabee 2 years ago
Corection, being gay is not the issue,it is the act.
AbuAvital 2 years ago
If a person is gay its its their personal business should be nothing to do with religion or governments its their life
debrabee 2 years ago
Exactly, Why are you telling me thi? What is your point?
AbuAvital 2 years ago
watch?v=HWwHoEirAQY
hamzehsh1 2 years ago
Israel reborn!
The prophets saw it.
It happened.
GOD revealed it to Isaiah and the words are true today AND
Zachariah and on and on.
Israel reborn.
Prophecy.
They will look and see.
They will!
hawkandpanther 3 years ago 2
Can u understand anything?
before u called the religion of Islam a terrorist group.
Well its not, thats bullshit
In every religion you can find good and bad people.
In my defense I said that there is the KKK the biggest terrorist group.
So Don't generelize at all
Obviously you haven't left ur continent because if u travel around u would be more educated and chose decisions wisely.
Do that, and then talk back.
Watooti 3 years ago
hell no dude,
ur getting the whole thing wrong,
read the Qur'an learn arabic
and then say bullshit,
and dont get me fucking started on the KKK
saying we are a terrorist group ..
Bullshit!
Watooti 3 years ago
u know what u fucking pushed it!
everything that comes out of ur mouth is bullshit...
ur an unsuccesful bitch who doesn't know what to do!
go get a fucking life u cunt
how fucking dare u say that about the Qur'an
go cock somewhere else! don't u fucking dare say that about any1's holy book..
respect life and urself! because everything bad u say ur gonna get fucking raped 10 times worse
Watooti 3 years ago
"according to some Muslims"
Profit Mohammed, was chased by Jews and it is written in the Qur'an ( our holy book ) tell ur Muslim friends to research more, or if u are just lying and looking on the internet its bullshit...
In my religion we don't accept gays and thats not ur problem.. we don't "behead" any gar christians so why do u give a fuck? we don't even behead gay Muslims, get over urself
Watooti 3 years ago
Dude, first of all u are more than silly, and its kinda gay
second, Mohammed was chased by Jews until he was dead, who do u think killed him? and how dare u say that he was vile to start the religion? how rude can u get? Hitler was Christian, and I didn't respect anything he did AT ALL, but the Jews are doing to us what he did to them ...
and Mohammed was not vile, he was promoting peace around the region, don't give any fake info to people in ur surroundings, they will just laugh
Watooti 3 years ago
Vilest? what does that mean?
No ur right i wasn't there 80 to 1300 years ago, but my ancestors were, my ancestors were the people who started the whole country, and from generation to generation they spoke about how Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived in peace, until the greedy Zionists came from Germany, and wanted to take it all, u are doing to the Palestinians what the German's did to u, look at what happened in Gaza, half the rockets Israel used was illegal, Hamas used fireworks compared ur
Watooti 3 years ago
Your a naive kid,
There has always been harmony, you were just not here to see it ...
Islam won't be gone, because Christianity, Islam, Jewish are the 3 main religions, u better think .. if we are gone u are gone...
Muslims are nice people, your just blinded by the stereotypes of fools, who have never traveled around the world.
We are not those people u see on T.V..
for u to think that makes nobody even care about what you say...
I am just trying to help you think ... If u can
Watooti 3 years ago
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War Crimes Tribunals:
Count I: Principles of Nuremberg, Principle VI (c) Crimes Against Humanity;
Count II: Genocide Convention Article II (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of lif calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.
III Defendents:
1 Netanyahu
2 Gisson
3 Gillerman
4 Shimon Peres
5 Shaul Mofaz
vistavision2 3 years ago
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you guys need to stop jealous israel really...
fuck you terrorist!
zvikatheking 3 years ago
Fuck Israel the new Nazi of 21 century
coming08 3 years ago 2
israel will fall. jews will flee to europe and america. then the middle east will be in harmony. this will happen within 16 years.
scarab08 3 years ago
LONG LIVE PALESTINE
noodnadim 3 years ago
In the State of Israel all citizens - Jew and Arab alike - are equal before the law. Israel has none of the apartheid legislative machinery devised to discriminate against and to separate people. It has no Population Registration Act, no Group Areas Act, no Mixed Marriages and Immorality Act, no Separate Representation of Voters Act, no Separate Amenities Act, no pass laws or any other of the myriad apartheid laws.
rapartist43 3 years ago
On the contrary: Israel is a vibrant liberal democracy which accords full political, civil and other human rights to all its people, including its one million-plus Arab citizens, many of whom hold positions of authority throughout the Jewish state - including that of cabinet minister, Knesset member and judge at every level of the judiciary, the Supreme Court included.
rapartist43 3 years ago
rapart, does not need all that when its has an example to its Israeli-arab citizens of it s genocide in Occpiued 181 Palestine.
Are you the only one that still believes your own propaganda!
vistavision2 3 years ago
If you ask me: there should not be one single Arab in Israel! No Arabs- no problems!
rapartist43 3 years ago 2
raptartos43, Hey thanks for this vid;
We can now use it as evidence that historical in deed references Mandate of Palestine as a UNGA 181 Trusteeship Territory for War Crimes Tribunals.
So you and your zionist parrots that cannot deny that indeed thenews of the day recorded the "historic [UNGA 181]Partition of Palestine"
Any other evidence on hand? For your advocating Crimes Against Humanity- I volunteer to be your executioner; any last requests? Pizza or a latte!!!
vistavision2 3 years ago
tinyurl,com/5ddm9x
hoover,org/publications/policy review/17089176,html
emperors-clothes,com/archive/mufhitler,htm
uni-stuttgart,de/aktuelles/presse/2006/36,html
ns-archiv,de/verfolgung/antisemitismus/mufti/in_berlin,php
worldpoliticsreview,com/article,aspx?id=2082
yad-vashem,org,il/about_holocaust/studies/vol35/Mallmann-Cuppers2,pdf
islämonazis scientifically exposed. yet you dare to complain. actions and claims in dissonance sounds like hypocrisy in my ears...
pikechris1 3 years ago
Yeah, no country - no occupation.^^
rapartist43 3 years ago
Aaaah, you mean the wall between Gaza and Egypt!
rapartist43 3 years ago
Initiated by?
Yes...the apartheid wall
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
You know what is Apartheid? Where is the connection between Israel and Apartheid? I already debunked that Israel is a racist state. You are repeating yourself. You believe it will turn true when simply repeating the same lies over and over again? The wall between gaza and Egypt was built by EGYPT. Why? Because they don't want terrorists either. Hmmm, "dubble" standard.
rapartist43 3 years ago
A country where different groups of people have different levels of right...
First class: The European Zionists
Second Class: The ancient Jews;
Third Class: The Druze and Arabs
Fourth Class the Ethiopian Jews
Fifth class: The Arab Muslims...
Ignorant pig
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
Proof? None. Just BULLSHIT.
rapartist43 3 years ago
And the film i sent you is the truth...eat it.
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
Oh wait! I smell a "dubble" standard...
rapartist43 3 years ago
Nice argument... I would never disqualify any Jew over the criminal acts of the Zionist clan ruling Israel...Never...
Sharon declared ones in an interview, he doesnt believe in any God... So by religion they are non Jewish... And so, the historical motive is irrelevant to them...
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
No argument at all. Jews are not only a religion but also a PEOPLE. If Sharon doesn't believe in G-d (please give reference) then it doesn't mean he is not Jewish anymore as he is part of the Jewish people. the historical motive is not only a religious one but also one supported by countless archaeological evidences. Miqdash Al-Quds, the arabic name for Jerusalem, is yet another proof...
rapartist43 3 years ago
"This cancerous tumor of a state [Israel] must be removed from the region."
Khameini
rapartist43 3 years ago
D-U-M-B-F-U-C-K!
Antisemitic hypocritic ignorant terror-supporting hate-mongering Arafag's cock-sucking islamic piece of shit.
rapartist43 3 years ago
With a statement such as "If the Israelis were not all fascists in May 1948
they surely are,today... ...... in May 2008" you are really making a fool of yourself. This can be debunked sooo easily. All one has to do is to read the declaration of independence of Israel where it says:
"Israel [...] will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex."
Find me such a statement in the Arab world. I await your reply^^
rapartist43 3 years ago
Zionism doesn't refer only to the establishment for a Jew-home... Zionism has many double Agenda's...We'll see, what the Neocon's and Israel will do against Iran...
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
"Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Wednesday that Israel must be "wiped off the map""
Herald Tribune; THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2005
Hmmm, let me think about it. I guess, Iran is best friend with Israel. Iran loves the Jews. Why should Israel do anything against those threats?
rapartist43 3 years ago
find more...its out of context... He never said this, meaning to kill the Zionists...
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
He said this on the "World without zionism"- conference. Need i say more, you filthy liar?
rapartist43 3 years ago
I guess you will not be able to give us a plausible reply to my scientific evidence as you are totally blinded by your fucked up hatred towards the Jewish people. I wonder why! You own 99% of the Middle East. Could it be that you are a greedy bunch of retarded ragheads? Without the west (yeah, right!!!) you would still be wandering around, living in tents using camel shit for making fires. think about it!
rapartist43 3 years ago
If you are from the U.S. much of your land was simply stolen from the Indians. At least the Jews paid for most of their land. In other instances the Palestinians were urged to leave by Arab leadership so that the Arab nations could wage war on Israel and were told that they could come back and assume ownership of the land and assets of the vanquished Jews. They gambled and they lost so I don't feel bad for them at all.
JerrySPsy 3 years ago 2
In the new testament the term Palestine is never used (in the years 140 to 45 AD) -- only the term Israel. (Matt 2:20) The Old Testament (Hebrew bible), which dates back at least 4,000 years, refers to it as Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel) among several other names (but the most prominent name used is Israel (Ezekiel 37:11)
JerrySPsy 3 years ago 2
Filistines is the Arab word for Palastines, it was and still is... Read the Biblia instead of the Bible which is not originall anyway...
Even if, Israel was ment for the Jews... Define a Jew for me, if you can???
The Biblia resembles 99% of the Quran, the only big difference is, that the Bible doesn't speak of Jesus as the son of God but as a prophet...
Sharkhunter1976 3 years ago
Read Sura 17:104... end of story^^
rapartist43 3 years ago
What a moron! Probably thinks Israel will listen to him.
dudleyfeebish 3 years ago
This video only stresses the fact that the "people of palestine" is nothing more than a populized theme following the six day war.
Notice that in the movie, the arabs living in nowadays israel are called "arabs" Not "palestinian".
The term is nothing more than the brain child of Arafat and the PLO movement, not being based on any historical facts.
rasbraa 3 years ago
Listen at :54, "Jews and Arabs