The Red Light Cameras cost more to operate and use than the City makes in revenue from them. In Abq at Red Light ticket is a 100$ fine. The company gets about 80% of that leaving the remaining to the city to pay for any expenses it takes for the Person to recieve the ticket. ( Our cameras record Speed, Red Light Runners and Tailgaters )
Traffic cameras cause changes in traffic speed, rapid slowdowns/speedups before/after the camera - which simply cannot be safe. Some flash bright camera flashes at drivers after dark... how the hell is that safe?
To anyone who thinks "if you're doing nothing wrong, why would you mind surveillance?", I say, poop. Pooping isn't wrong, would you mind people watching you poop? Or make love? Making love isn't wrong, so surely you wouldn't mind people watching right? Right?
HAHA great stunt. WSJ stated the private operators make $5k / cam. Last I heard tho, it was 50%, with each cam bringing $50k-$100k / yr. All cams do is divert traffic around the site. And the city has no incentive to improve, but just bleed more from residents.
They put up these cameras in parts of Algonquin IL in shopping areas. They said that it was to improve safety, but it's really about the revenue. I stupidly ran one on Christmas and it flashed, but I never received a ticket, don't know why, but the very first thing that I did was stop shopping in Algonquin. I use to spend a $100 a week grocery shopping there, but no more. The city can have their cameras, let the store suffer loss of revenue. $5200/yr gone from just me.
I read a story about a guy who got one of these tickets (they send a pic of you going through the light) so he sent a pic. of the money for the fine. and they sent a pic of hand cuffs
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!! I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF COPS PULLING PEOPLE OVER TO GAIN FUCKNG REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND STATE!!!, they should replace the to "serve and protect" to "enslave and tax". I have a warrant out for my arrest right now because a prick cop wrote me a ticket for going 76 while I was trying to get to work, because I was late, and I didn't want to loose my job. WELL COME AND GET ME MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And yes Big Brother is watching, And now with this digital switchover they will be able to look into your home as well. Analog signals = One way communication - Digital Signals = 2 way communication. So you tell me, Why did the government require the switch?
IN Myrtle Beach, SC the only purpose for the Highway patrol is to hand out tickets on city backroads. They make their budget shortfalls on our misery. Yes it is another form of taxation. That's why I NEVER speed anymore. I'm NEVER giving them a dime of my money ever again. So take heed if you come to Myrtle Beach watch your speed the whole city is a speed trap.
Cities and states only created speed limit(s) because of the increase populous driving, and dumb asses before us that decided to go over "common sense speed" during weather, heavy traffic and/ or areas of high pedestrian traffic. Eight seconds of "yellow" light is ample time for you to stop and if you shall choose to go threw it-- you deserved the ticket. Did you know traffic stops is a great way to arrest wanted felons or terrorist...
I mostly agree. You play, you pay. The problem I have is that many times you don't get the 8 or even 6 seconds some jurisdictions allow. I have seen yellow lights that last 2 seconds in 45 mph zones. That makes them money and causes accidents.
I think the paintballing idea is a good one. It's about as fair as the cameras themselves. Hey, if the city's making so much friggin' money while sitting on their ass, let em pay for fixing the friggin' cameras.
A person should hand you a ticket- not a camera. Cameras are mechanical devices, and devices fail. Whether in theory or in practice, no mechanical device should ever judge a human, and these cameras are judge and jury combined into one package.
i got a red light ticket and i didn't even run the light, I went slighty over the line. I get a ticket and i didnt do anything wrong. I have also seen those cameras flash on people performing LEGAL left hand turns... the system is definately flawed here.
In my city, you can't go to court for it...there is no warrant issued if you don't pay. The "ticket" goes to a colection agency and screws up your credit! How rediculous!!!!!
what are YOU SUPPOSE TO DO IF YOU LEND Your car to a friend or family, how does the camera write the ticket, to the actual driver and not to the registered owner......
there should be a no license plate day in protest,,they can't ticket everyone.. although they would they wil try
It is seems like we have a concession over this topic. Then we should fight against this Tactics. We should create a PROPOSITION that would make camera illegal on cross street. All we need is to gather signitures, and make it public.!!!
bnd your right, they do cause more rear end accidents (from people jamming on the breaks). Did you know the privately owned company's are making around $5,000 a month per camera, before you say im BSing, READ IT IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL article today
... Or ... how's this? Stop speeding and running red lights!!! The best way to get those cameras down indefinitely is to stop having them make money. There are bigger fish to fry. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions. They are, after all, breaking the law.
These cameras are placed in open and public space. People have no expectation of privacy driving down these major roads. Cameras have been used for years in public places, stores, elevators, parking lots. The problem here, at its core, is that people are driving like maniacs. I've seen people driving down some of these city streets going at least 80 mph. Making the leap from these traffic cameras to having the government place them inside homes is overly dramatic and ridiculous.
Did you know that those cameras while they do provide revenue for the places that have them and they do get people in trouble for breaking the law, those cameras have actually caused more accidents? People are terrified to even do one thing wrong so they slam on their brakes and cause accidents. Sadly these cameras aren't really helping.
The cameras cause rear-end collisions because people slam their brakes on to avoid the exorbitant tickets and don't flow with traffic. The cameras are NOT about safety - They are about making money for the city while letting cops spend more time at the doughnut shop. The camera company gets like $75.00 per ticket, so if you don't understand Americans it's best you stay the fuck over there in merry old England.
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I don't understand why anyone would mess about with red light cameras, as they dramatically influence the behaviour of motorists at traffic light controlled junctions.
Attend the scene of a road traffic accident caused by a red light jumper, then tell the relatives of the deceased/injured that you think red light cameras suck.
The Red Light Cameras cost more to operate and use than the City makes in revenue from them. In Abq at Red Light ticket is a 100$ fine. The company gets about 80% of that leaving the remaining to the city to pay for any expenses it takes for the Person to recieve the ticket. ( Our cameras record Speed, Red Light Runners and Tailgaters )
mddm11772 1 year ago
All I have to say is "Who is watching the watchers?"
i9130 1 year ago
These guys are my hero's!!!!
t5998mc 1 year ago
awesome guys ;D
madbiker53 2 years ago
Traffic cameras cause changes in traffic speed, rapid slowdowns/speedups before/after the camera - which simply cannot be safe. Some flash bright camera flashes at drivers after dark... how the hell is that safe?
To anyone who thinks "if you're doing nothing wrong, why would you mind surveillance?", I say, poop. Pooping isn't wrong, would you mind people watching you poop? Or make love? Making love isn't wrong, so surely you wouldn't mind people watching right? Right?
FuckinShovel 2 years ago
Great job.... it's just a money maker for local government
atlcrashpad 2 years ago
Alot of Balls
Good Job Guys, Do it Again
smrio 2 years ago
so did the santa's get busted, was the stuff taken down? what happened after this?
Dumbfukk 2 years ago
HAHA great stunt. WSJ stated the private operators make $5k / cam. Last I heard tho, it was 50%, with each cam bringing $50k-$100k / yr. All cams do is divert traffic around the site. And the city has no incentive to improve, but just bleed more from residents.
StilesDC 2 years ago
Stick it to the man, Santa. I believe!
ginsunh 2 years ago 2
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boston85719 2 years ago
They put up these cameras in parts of Algonquin IL in shopping areas. They said that it was to improve safety, but it's really about the revenue. I stupidly ran one on Christmas and it flashed, but I never received a ticket, don't know why, but the very first thing that I did was stop shopping in Algonquin. I use to spend a $100 a week grocery shopping there, but no more. The city can have their cameras, let the store suffer loss of revenue. $5200/yr gone from just me.
rayme4raw 2 years ago
niggers
ministroker215 2 years ago
I read a story about a guy who got one of these tickets (they send a pic of you going through the light) so he sent a pic. of the money for the fine. and they sent a pic of hand cuffs
soldierboy425 2 years ago
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!! I am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF COPS PULLING PEOPLE OVER TO GAIN FUCKNG REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND STATE!!!, they should replace the to "serve and protect" to "enslave and tax". I have a warrant out for my arrest right now because a prick cop wrote me a ticket for going 76 while I was trying to get to work, because I was late, and I didn't want to loose my job. WELL COME AND GET ME MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DarkKnight7723 2 years ago 8
I guess if you got in a car accident, loosing your job would be least of your problems.
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
an rpg or rocket launcher wud be appropriate...
tekmasta8 2 years ago
And yes Big Brother is watching, And now with this digital switchover they will be able to look into your home as well. Analog signals = One way communication - Digital Signals = 2 way communication. So you tell me, Why did the government require the switch?
BrianMorrison71 2 years ago
Cable operators wanted the switch to get you to get on with them!
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
IN Myrtle Beach, SC the only purpose for the Highway patrol is to hand out tickets on city backroads. They make their budget shortfalls on our misery. Yes it is another form of taxation. That's why I NEVER speed anymore. I'm NEVER giving them a dime of my money ever again. So take heed if you come to Myrtle Beach watch your speed the whole city is a speed trap.
BrianMorrison71 2 years ago
Cities and states only created speed limit(s) because of the increase populous driving, and dumb asses before us that decided to go over "common sense speed" during weather, heavy traffic and/ or areas of high pedestrian traffic. Eight seconds of "yellow" light is ample time for you to stop and if you shall choose to go threw it-- you deserved the ticket. Did you know traffic stops is a great way to arrest wanted felons or terrorist...
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
I mostly agree. You play, you pay. The problem I have is that many times you don't get the 8 or even 6 seconds some jurisdictions allow. I have seen yellow lights that last 2 seconds in 45 mph zones. That makes them money and causes accidents.
pslgreg 2 years ago 3
Well they have to follow state law-- and if you can prove that it is less than what state law requires the city could be liable in an accident.
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
totally agree -because it's true
Dumbfukk 2 years ago
haha this is awesome!!!! hahahaaaaa
tds9127 2 years ago
until we uprise the government will continue to bully us
bigtoe867 2 years ago 3
Better yet, use a hammer!
ShockDoc 2 years ago 2
I think the paintballing idea is a good one. It's about as fair as the cameras themselves. Hey, if the city's making so much friggin' money while sitting on their ass, let em pay for fixing the friggin' cameras.
ShockDoc 2 years ago
A person should hand you a ticket- not a camera. Cameras are mechanical devices, and devices fail. Whether in theory or in practice, no mechanical device should ever judge a human, and these cameras are judge and jury combined into one package.
lousyflyer 2 years ago
In OC traffic officers review the pictures before sending the ticket to you.
coasterfreak100 2 years ago
i got a red light ticket and i didn't even run the light, I went slighty over the line. I get a ticket and i didnt do anything wrong. I have also seen those cameras flash on people performing LEGAL left hand turns... the system is definately flawed here.
In my city, you can't go to court for it...there is no warrant issued if you don't pay. The "ticket" goes to a colection agency and screws up your credit! How rediculous!!!!!
KrazySpydrLady 2 years ago
what are YOU SUPPOSE TO DO IF YOU LEND Your car to a friend or family, how does the camera write the ticket, to the actual driver and not to the registered owner......
there should be a no license plate day in protest,,they can't ticket everyone.. although they would they wil try
trouble718 2 years ago
I invite the Santas down to Texas to gift wrap our traffic light cams lol. Death to all traffic cams!!!
kellie77381 2 years ago
It is seems like we have a concession over this topic. Then we should fight against this Tactics. We should create a PROPOSITION that would make camera illegal on cross street. All we need is to gather signitures, and make it public.!!!
nauticapnoy12 2 years ago
paint balling the glass would be fun.
lsandmn 2 years ago
bnd your right, they do cause more rear end accidents (from people jamming on the breaks). Did you know the privately owned company's are making around $5,000 a month per camera, before you say im BSing, READ IT IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL article today
skijunkie09 2 years ago
... Or ... how's this? Stop speeding and running red lights!!! The best way to get those cameras down indefinitely is to stop having them make money. There are bigger fish to fry. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions. They are, after all, breaking the law.
nmaz01 2 years ago
What about privacy buddy? Let them do this, and soon, cameras will be in and around your house.
AnytimeMinutes 2 years ago
These cameras are placed in open and public space. People have no expectation of privacy driving down these major roads. Cameras have been used for years in public places, stores, elevators, parking lots. The problem here, at its core, is that people are driving like maniacs. I've seen people driving down some of these city streets going at least 80 mph. Making the leap from these traffic cameras to having the government place them inside homes is overly dramatic and ridiculous.
nmaz01 2 years ago
so ... in a public place, the public say no say?
AnytimeMinutes 2 years ago
Did you know that those cameras while they do provide revenue for the places that have them and they do get people in trouble for breaking the law, those cameras have actually caused more accidents? People are terrified to even do one thing wrong so they slam on their brakes and cause accidents. Sadly these cameras aren't really helping.
bndguuurl69 2 years ago 2
It would be better to just shoot the damn thing
beast6228 2 years ago 2
well done santa
Escorpio40 2 years ago
Money sucking government... You gotta play the game fair. Whats next??
We should all remove our licence plates in protest.
barneyslimjim 2 years ago
You need to come to IL to do this!
Bjs470 2 years ago
I wished I kick their butt and have them arrested.
Bopkasen 2 years ago
Why? Oh that's right you hate everything America stands for. I keep forgetting.
Einstiensblackid 2 years ago
First.... don't guess and second I don't hate everything.
Just trying to help you get smarter
Bopkasen 2 years ago
So you're NOT talking about kicking the protesters butts?
Einstiensblackid 2 years ago
No. I am still going to kick their butt. :P
I don't want to get run over by speeding cars.
Bopkasen 2 years ago
Looks like I wasn't guessing then.
Einstiensblackid 2 years ago
my hero
Chaos722 2 years ago
I love you santa! This is the best present ever!
alingkamote 2 years ago 2
The city uses "safety" as an excuse to raise money.
guerillatactical 2 years ago 4
all they want is money
right now their doing more traffic stops than last year
you see people getting pulled over every 2 minutes, no lie
hey guys, come to my town and do that
joker0187 2 years ago 4
Next time, try baseball bats.
cincye 2 years ago 3
try warning people that they are speeding not give them a penalty for doing so.....greed is everywhere and unfairness..
fartyscratchy 2 years ago 3
The cameras cause rear-end collisions because people slam their brakes on to avoid the exorbitant tickets and don't flow with traffic. The cameras are NOT about safety - They are about making money for the city while letting cops spend more time at the doughnut shop. The camera company gets like $75.00 per ticket, so if you don't understand Americans it's best you stay the fuck over there in merry old England.
kipptumor 3 years ago 12
Tempe Az,they enjoy scamming people.
getgus 3 years ago
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I don't understand why anyone would mess about with red light cameras, as they dramatically influence the behaviour of motorists at traffic light controlled junctions.
Attend the scene of a road traffic accident caused by a red light jumper, then tell the relatives of the deceased/injured that you think red light cameras suck.
Americans are a bizarre race.
lollygaggle 3 years ago
The whole "despotic monetary system" Thing is retarded, but these cameras are dumb.
JohnUnit 3 years ago
Michael Jackson is coming to town.
getgus 3 years ago
Making a mockery of these cameras just makes me feel all happy.
freemarketeer67 3 years ago 3
everyone hates these cameras but now the police are gonna be comin to town and lookin for you
kookster3410 3 years ago
Funny people will stand up to something as ridiculous as speeding cameras but they won't stand up on the real problem.
I admire those people who did this but I'd urge that they and we as well would turn our attention to more serious problems with the government.
havenae 3 years ago
haha. keep up the good work
invertpball22 3 years ago 2
Heard you guys on freetalklive!
good job!
seantheamazing 3 years ago
More people like this needed. Great job
rumour0830 3 years ago 4