Hello young man I thought you are American because you speak English very well but when you speak Hmong Word ( Ua neeb) then I knew you are Hmong good job young man!!
killa that true. Shao is our prophet as Jesus is Christian prophet, or something like that, but we still believe in god. like my dad he's a shaman, say we believe in god but not Jesus.
You have to be a true believer, some txiv neeb is stronger then others. Doctors could not find out why I was infertile, so my only choice was to go through IVF, or ua neeb. After ua neeb I became pregnant one month after, and miscarried. After a year, I did it again and became pregnant again. This pregnancy is staying. Shamen is just like a doctor, he/she will do anything in their power to try and heal a person. I once was not a believer, and now am because I saw it in my own eyes...
exx123456 Thaum twg nej los yog koj ua neeb kho npua los yog tua tus npua theej txhoj tus tib neeg mob ntawg . koj tsis txhob noj cov nqaij npua nrog lawv es cia koj yog txiv ua neeb noj dua lwm yam zaub ntxuag mov xwb, Kab lis kev cai ua neeb yog li kuv hais no.
@Killavigilante Shao is just a Hmong word to denote God or someone who is godlike...so please do not separate God from the Hmong. Hmong do not believe in Jesus Christ, but they do believe in God.
whether ur a christian or not u should respect others..not criticize others regardless. this is the case with u SocialMisfit. if ur a true christian u would know the golden rule. obviously, ur ignorant who gets all fire-up on Sundays but remain an invisible christian for the rest of the week.
@SocialMisfit in response to what a christian like u judging other religions or person: it is not the responsibility for a christian to judge. God says in Luke 6:37, "judge not, and u will not be judge: condemn not, and u will not be condemn; forgive, and u will be forgiven." "true christians" out to live by the word of God before they say or do anything. being a true christians doesnt make them better or perfect by any means.
@SocialMisfit and talking about not being able to handle the truth, it's u who cant handle the truth. so if u cant handle the truth then u should go and beat around the bush, or better yet, talk to a tree. ignorants like u make true christians look bad. ur like a wolf carrying a cross in sheeps clothing.
@Sundincubus Yer gotta know, ANYONE advertising to the world that they are a "social misfit" really has said it all in the area of "self-condemnation" & NO amt of reasoning , logic, compassion, understanding or, or, or, will help them to STOP being bitter.
It's their soul's journey & ANYTHING that touches the "authentic-self-nerve” will instantly ignite the fuse of their ticking time bomb that's been patiently waiting for AN EXCUSE to blow up!!
This is about the Hmong spiritual belief. If you don't like it, I suggest you go back and educate yourself about your native belief. Start learning about other cultures and their native practices. STFU and leave GOD out of this video. If you want to preach about your saint, do it somewhere else and not on our cultural videos. Don't like it, get lost and stfu. Your God is not my God and have nothing to do with my culture. Thank you very much.
No need to hate on God, because he's just that popular. since when did the hmong culture belong to just you? it's not just yours...it's mine and everyone who is hmong. and for some of us, we choose to walk with God, dont be jealous that we want to stand out~ its time to make a change in the hmong history.
@SocialMisfit The reason why niamtxiv is angry is because our hmong people suffer a lot not because of religion but because of cruel people in this world that religion cannot change. For example, if you preach christianity in muslim or communist country, they make sure you are wipe off this earth. And here you are happy and a worshipper while the rest of your people suffer thinking you are right which is both sad and angers people. This is why you have to keep to yourself until you actually help
@zmanthao I am helping my suffering people and I am a shaman. You as a christian, what have you done to help your suffering people? We are good just like you and don't need your preaching, but the one back in Laos and Thailand are suffering, go preach to them where it is needed the most. You can be a Jesus by going to Laos to preach christianity, maybe you can change them if they don't put a bullet in your head first.
christians have helped alot of cultures, and we have gone to laos, thailand, and china where we helped children and families learn about God and help with their daily life. hmong ppl have a choice they can make, ppl bring their own sufferings, it's nothing we can run from. it's a risk we take going into places like that, but we Thank God for making all things possible. and alot of lives have changed because we've helped them learn about their place in God's love.
@SocialMisfit I never said anything about "we", I'm talking about you. Have you gone out to the world to do the work with your two bare hand? If you have not, then learn to keep quiet. I as a shaman don't get it easy dealing with evil spirits all the time, the same one you call demons. The one that make a person's house cold and sucks the life force out of people. If you haven't deal with one by yourself, then learn to keep quiet.
oh well, i meant we as in, our church's little groups. my bad~ i shouldn't have to keep quiet about my faith in God and where it takes me. it's my freedom of speech. do i sense someone getting tense? obviously you need to chill and relax. and take criticism to the heart. sharing our walk with God makes ppl more aware of the many possibilities they can have in love, faith and hope in a corrupt world.
@SocialMisfit I'm not tense, but why are you mentioning about being tense? Maybe you are. If you don't understand what I just said; you don't know enough to teach others because you haven't got your hand dirty, you are like a little child that has plenty to eat, wait until you starve and then try to teach others. I bet it won't be happy joy joyy because all you can feel about is your starvation. Don't get it? Let me know and I'll explain some more.
thanks for telling me that i'm like a child. because it's better to be like a child than an adult. slow to anger, and quick to forgive. your just saying that b/c your afraid to comitt yourself to God. so you have to put me down by degrading me. lol, but its cool~ talking about God can be really filling, and sometimes you dont feel so hungry. i might be starving, but the ending results are amazingly wonderful to experience God's blessings when you fast.
@SocialMisfit No, you got it wrong. Your god isn't doing much in this world; it is a wrap around itself god which is what you are like. Just like you don't see the pain and suffering of others desperate in this world to survive. They need you and me to help them because we have better means. They don't have internet to come tell us, we have to go to them. When you start helping, you will find that it is through your hand that help them, not god's hand, though he work through you..
you talk as if christian don't help the world,when we donate so much money to poor countries.if shaman is so great,why dont you go and help the poor with your skills. im not blind,i see what's going on,it takes more than just 1 person to help the world.you should get off your alter and start doing some real talking with ppl instead of going behind cloth.stop jumping around, help those who can't walk.GOD gave us our gifts and abilities,because of them we are able to help those in need.
@SocialMisfit u r so damn stupid. im not flipping out u dork. im just making a really good point here. :)
u know im right. and if u r dissing what i am saying then u r dissing ur ancestor! :) so back off. at least i aint dissing God. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
omgosh~ kuv tsis need paub os. im good thanks for the advice guys. so loving. awww~ the only person who's ignorant is the person calling others ignorant. how tus siab heev vim koj tsis txawj understand.
Please, I understand clearly for your information. You really need to quit thinking that your religion is the truth because there is no truth. It is your belief, not mine. You really need to go back to school and expand your horizon because you clearly show lots of bigotry here.
niamtxiv aws~ koj tsis need to be jealous and chim chim siab os. relax man~ it's going to be okay. just breathe! dont want you to get high blood pressure. chill already. lol~
niamtxiv aws~ koj tsis need to be jealous and chim chim siab os. relax man~ it's going to be okay. just breathe! dont want you to get high blood pressure. chill already. lol~ bigotry is not a word silly.
ahhaha dork~ that's cute. im making a good point as well. i wouldn't say you are correct. im just saying that Hmong ppl need to grow to change into something NEW and leave the OLD as memories in words and images. That's good that your not dissing God, may God bless you!
SocialMisfit, you can't be serious? You lack historical knowledge of Christianity and yet, you like to call yourself a Christian. Do you know who is Jesus Christ? Did you know he was not crucify nor was he the son of God according to the Islamic Faith and according to the old Testament. Did you know that Muslims and Jewish consider those who read the new Testament as following the false faith. You are really funny trying to be smart here, Hmong kid.
AHA-HA! why you getting so mad. chill my hmong brother. where's the love eh~ that is the islamic faith, why dont you leave them alone...we all believe something different, but what ppl teach you is what you got to do, like open with your eyes and ears to listen and choose wisely in the things you believe. DURRRR~ got it, get it, GOOD~ it's all good.
@Maileelauj es, koj mas so funny heev~ tsis cas understand kuv lis os. koj is still little kid, koj tsis paub xwb os. txhob chim chim siab, uas siab ntev ntev mos. Lol~ koj tsis need paus kuv yog leeg twb, but koj have to paus where koj stand in the end, thiab qhov uas koj believe nws paub save koj from everything. oki-doki. ahahaha. yog tsis paub, ces ask kuv, i'll be here! wink wink*
@SocialMisfit hahaha no im fine u know why? cuz i have many hmong church friends who think the way i do. and doesn't dis their own ancestors. I dont know how old u r but i know one thing about u. U dont have respect for anyone except ur love ones.
its good to know that you are actually surrounded with friends that go to church. that's amazing, i pray that God may lead you with their positivity. im sure they feel the same way like I do, but don't want to hurt your feelings. you are still young and immature to know about God's plan for you, it's gonna be your turn any day. when it is, you can thank God. toodles =)
@SocialMisfit hahaha i dont know. who knows maybe but guess what im not going to follow yet. im not planning soon. if u want to plan it for me in ur head then go ahead. :)
u just need to know that if u r dissing shaman than u r dissing ur ancestors. so grow up and deal with that u were once shaman. :P
i was never actually shaman, i grew up as a christian. but my uncles were, and it dont look so good for them, they sick all the time. its sad. thanks for your concern, but im more concern about you.
paper is paper, it burns and turns to ashes. it can not help our ancestors or you. we cant carry materialistic things with us when we die. im sorry to say, but you are fooled at what you know and see...stubborness does not open doors to truth.
money doesn't exist in death...you are fooled. how long are you going to burn paper as money, stop polluting the air. how sad. we came with nothing into this world, and will leave with nothing when we go back. in dust we came, and to dust we will return.
@SocialMisfit You are talking about something that you cannot understand unless you can see beyond the realm of the living. We came with a lot of stuff into this world and many of that got losted. For example you, your parents did not know that you have abilities through your identity, but you will never know if you do not try to search and understand it. Christian kills that identity, this is why all christians have no gifted people. Like a bowl of soup that looks really good, but has no taste.
@SocialMisfit Not everything as you know is what it seems. There is are spiritual structure behind our physical experience. I have not read the bible, but I think it only mentions about heaven. The quran mention 7 heaven levels (more accurate). Even more accurate is unlimited heaven level, both physical and spiritual. You see how little you know? We do not understand spiritual around us including burning paper, thus we must not limit ourself base on what we read, we must experience first hand.
@zmanthao We use that spiritual knowledge to heal the sick, if the sick is heal, then we know it is possible that it is the truth what we saw and many shaman see the same thing when they cross that border. This is why hmong shaman has a very strong root because it work.
you might want to try to read the Bible then, and find answers that could open your eyes too. there are alot of Gods out there...but there's only 1 alpha omega in the end. ppl in different cultures have different Gods and meanings. but if you are confident in your God, why search for another. like i said, we came naked into this world, came with nothing...and we'll leave with nothing, back to dust, just as God made us.
i know who i am, i know my roots...and i've seen what it can and cant do...change is good, its a sign of growth. maybe its time that our roots learn to expand and grow outside of the box sometimes.
you know when you die, you can't take money with you...what makes you think you can take a cow, chicken and a pig with you. maybe you should listen to the words of what the shaman's say to the dead and try to comprehend its meaning before speaking. its sad to know that hmong ppl have been mis-led for so many years. and their stubbornness is what keeps them from God.
Everyone will have their own opinions and beliefs when it comes to religion. Allowing one to express themselves freely in regards to their religious beliefs is perfectly fine; BUT it is not acceptable to bash other religious beliefs. No one religion is superior to the other. They're all almighty in their own scope. And for the hmong people who are bashing on their own religion, I just hope your ancestors can forgive you.
its not that we bash our own religion, we just choose to see life in a different view. it's better to be different than the same. God has His own purpose for the way things are. We will see eachother in the end of time. Till then, let us do what we can when we are still able and when the sun still rise.
You can choose to see life in a different view without bashing a religion. Express your religious beliefs without criticizing the other beliefs is possible. I don't see why there is a need to criticize other beliefs; and I'm sure if you were to bash Christianity or Hindi, I'm sure the Christians and Hindus would not be able to tolerate it either. One should not be so stereotypical; it's not just hmong people who can not take criticism. It's only human nature.
i dont see how i was bashing any religion at all. everyone has their own opinions to their religions. i cant help it, if i have strong feelings towards my christian belief. every christian stands on their own views. there is a religious war out there daily, this is only normal. we can fight for whatever side we choose, lets just hope that it can save us in the end. For the Lord comes like a thief in the night. And the day of the Lord is darkness.
In all honesty, I was just speaking in general about bashing other religions; you replied to it with offense and so, I had to respond as well. Clarifications is all that's needed. I had no intention to directly attack you. It was just a response to all the negative comments on here. And there would be no religious war out there if everyone could just accept the fact that people are different in what they believe. War breaks out when one believe they're superior. Why must we fight?
its life...if we can't control our own hearts desire, we can't control the outcome of the world's actions. only when their is a life crisis happening, is the only time when everyone act. pulls together and helps. the world is free with its ways, so ppl do as they please. everyone is selfish at heart. how sad it is to be God and to gaze upon his corrupted creation.
If you know that mankind is so corrupted, then don't add to the problem but instead be a part of the solution. Don't hesistate to understand other religions just because those that you're following do hesitate to understand. I agree, it is only when life crisis comes about that causes people to act together which is quite sad. But that doesn't mean you should wait. Start your understanding now. :)
i understand enough about the things i daily see and hear, thank you very much...seems like you dont comprehend on my POV. but its okay...we all can't think alike. this is basically going nowhere. hmong ppl are lost.
Since you're not getting what I'm trying to say either, looks like I don't. Even if we can't think alike, we can still respect the other different thoughts. Just a thought. And Hmong people may be lost people in regards to having no land or country to call their own, but they are not lost at heart. True Hmong people know who they are and what they're capable of; there's no sign of lost there.
i guess i meant to say that hmong ppl who practice shaman are lost. please RESPECT this opinion. hmong in general may not be lost...shamanism may just be a part of our culture and of who we are, but shamanism doesn't lead to the narrow road. maybe you should look for God in your life. it may open your eyes to see the world differently.
do you understand the words the txivneeg says sometimes. do you know what he means when he sends the dead back home. do you have to kill so many animals to get your spirit back? only when you die, does your spirit leave you. your spirit can't go on its own. its sad to see shaman ppl tie their life unto something thats misleading.why let yourself suffer, why carry those heavy chains. its time to let go, and live. let God carry your heavy burdens. thats all im saying. you dont have to suffer alone
You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Please don't act like you know what Hmong traditions are all about. You are selfish and naive. Do you need me to tell you again that you are an ignorant person. I suggest you get more diverse friends and stop trying to be a messiah. You are not superior. You don't need to brag about your religion. Please be respectful. You came into my videos with the intention to spew hate. Please watch your language.
i had no intentions of "spewing" hate, nor did i use any kind of swear words. i know what i am talking about, i do know the hmong traditions, i have uncles and aunts who still are shaman, so im fully aware. i didnt say i was superior or tryna be a messiah at all. why are you labeling me all of a suddenly? here i am just telling you to be open to God, and you are bashing me with your "ignorance". but I will pray for you, thats the most i can do. (^__^)v
there you go again, tell me you're going to pray for me. sorry, i do not need your prayer. i have my own faith. you need to get that through your bigoted head. i suggest you go out more and stop trying to go around telling me about your religion. you are disrespectful and i suggest you go back and reread your comments.
i will pray wether you like it or not. be happy now, cheer up. its going to be okay. why are you getting so mad over something so little. txoj uas siab mes mas...siab loj loj, okay! vajtswb foom khoom moov rau koj~
@SocialMisfit Believe it or not, you aren't protected as you think you are as a christian. I am a shaman and I've seen dirty christian spirits that cannot leave this realm infesting churches and the people within. Us shaman have our problem too, but at least we can see, feel them and do something about it and see if it really work or not. This is why we are so effective, unlike christian. All that bad stuff you mentioned about shaman, I don't like and don't them.
i respect your opinions. i guess it's just not your calling, everyone has their own meeting with God. the only thing that'll i'll disagree is the fact that you label christians as dirty spirits...there is no perfect christian, perfection doesn't exist in God's love for us. just b/c you see one dirty christian doesn't mean all are dirty. no one is perfect in this world, we are all born sinners.
@SocialMisfit It was a faithful christian guy at work that was infested with these unclean christian spirits. They make the guy arouse around man. Because christian cannot see it, they do not know what's infesting their church and preacher, thus infesting them. Their blind believe is strong because of these spirits, but these spirits interact with people through them. This is why it is very difficult being human because 99.9% cannot see it.
not every good christian lives a perfect life, we all struggle just to find our own belief. wether old or young, we all have different walks of life in God. and i can understand where you are going too...ppl aren't always who they say they are...ppl bend God's words around. that's why it's very important to find yourself in God, and find your own answers. seems like you only hear about christians who are corrupt, where's the good in that?
@lespaulguitarist92 What you don't understand is some shamans are agents of god and god works directly through them. These kind of shaman knows everything on the other side including the stuff found in your bible and they been there. They are the witness and proof of existence of heaven and hell. You know so little, a shaman know so much...
i understand why you would say those things but you didn't give God a chance with your faith,how can you doubt Him with things that you "think" you know just because your a shaman.seeing everyone struggle in their faith, shows alot.its not easy believing in God at least i can still try everyday,but it's harder living the shaman life with strings attached.i dont want to be a shaman just to know alot i rather walk by faith and not know.
@SocialMisfit All I have is respect for you and hope you open your eye a little more. I think you and I believe in the same thing. I don't require fees to help people, in fact, me and my wife gave close to $200k to save Hmong life and ask for nothing in return. That's all our savings and we have 4 children. I do this because I believe one person can make a difference in this world and that the end may be coming for the wicked and hope that father will spare some of us.
i do have my eyes open. sometimes it hurts to know that the ppl around me are missing out in God's grace. its just sad to see ppl suffer and not know what they are getting themselves into when the key is right there in their hands. my uncle is a shaman, he's always sick, have another uncle who is a paster, that i dont really agree with the things he say and do. i might be young, but i know where im headed in his corrupt world. but thanks for being cool about everything!
Everything I tell you about is base on recent and verified action, not some talking that is 2000 years old out of a book, who knows how many peoples add what to it and all its believers with no proof of its existence. If you want to know your bible is true or not, you might want to ask a shaman try to verify it, we can do that at no charge. Otherwise your bible is only good to keep warm as a fire source during winter. Did you know modern medicine was from amazonian that spoke with forest spirit?
i dont know how old you are but by the time it survives 2000 years, it says more than just recent. you might not believe it, but it's been already done. just don't wait till forever to come to God. Our timing isn't God's timing. im not gonna say much after this, because you can't find answers behind a black cloth.
(Romans 8:18) For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us.
@SocialMisfit I respect you for sharing this info so can you explain what roman 8:18 mean in your own definition to me? Thanks. About the black clothe, please respect them, they sacrificed their blood and tear, laying down their life for my and your existence more than we know. They are no more. They are our great and grandfather and mother. If you respect them, you are worthy for being hmong and sacrafice, if not, no god or jesus can protect you because you don't respect your own kind.
@zmanthao Just because we lost much of our rich curlture through many wars with the chinese and other civ doesn't mean you should go astray from your root. Even Jesus know this about you and can only protect you half way, the rest, he cannot travel or guide you and this is when you have to turn back this way because no one will accept you accept your kind. Why do you think you were born Hmong?
you should check this out if you want that is?maybe you have heard of Rev. Vam Txoov Lis before. nothing wrong in making a change in who we are. to change is to grow out of what we used to be, and into something new. i respect my ancestors, but im willingly to risk my life for a greater cause. God's got my back, idk about yours, but i'll be praying for you! ;)
@SocialMisfit Don't tell me you still worshiping the white Jesus because the Black worship the black Jesus and the Asian worship the Asian Jesus and the Mexican worship the Mexican Jesus. Or is there a Hmong Jesus now that I don't know about?
your so funny! it just amazes me how much you doubt God's existence, that it's saddens me. thanks for the laugh. so many ppl are like you, who would rather see then believe. honestly, it just hasn't gotten to you yet. how much longer will you choose to stand aside from God's love. ppl create those white, black and asian God, but true christians know that God is God. santa, elves and fairies are more like folklore stories. God is greater than that. only a fool says there is no God.
@SocialMisfit I'm glad you took it jokingly, but it is true. I drove down a black neighbor and there was a huge black jesus with open arm painted on a church wall. Then there's the black hair Jesus to resemble asian. Wow, I think its time you dress him up in hmong custome! God s not about material possession, so you should give all your good away to the poor and needy and live on the street for 3 days and I'm sure god will proof you are right, but for now, you are still wrong.
just b/c a black man portrays Jesus as that, doesn't mean that you should assume things. True, that God is not about mat. possession but we should be thankful for the things he blesses us with, and share it with the world. you dont have to tell me that, b/c as a christian we got that more than covered. it's better to give than to receive. you are just that stubborn huh. LOL. like i said, He's got the whole world in his hand, so why not join the race and follow.
it's true that we can't see him, but his miracles i have seen, just waking up the next day is a blessing. alot of ppl believe in God, not just americans but chinese and ppl all over the world. i might be a liar, but im not the only one lying about Jesus. there's a fire burning faith that roars all over the world, and it's all about Jesus. whether you believe him or not, he's got the whole world in his hands. and there's still a spot for you! see how special you are!
@SocialMisfit If you want to get to know father in heaven and Jesus just a little bit more, help thousands of people in this world that are suffering because of femine or war or hate. It is a very horrible and sad situation. I guarantee it will change the way you think whether you are a christian or shaman. This is as close as you can get to what you mentioned in roman 8:18. The reason why I ask, but you cannot answer. Mine are real, but yours are in head only because you haven't done the work.
projects like that are growing in the christian community, we're slowly reaching out to those who need faith in life and in God. it's amazing how much we've done, and the results are amazing. as far as the interpretations for Romans 8:18...you shouldn't worry and waste time in the world's ways and how much sadness it brings, rather look forward to the glory and excitement that will come. basically jesus returns. God has so much power and love, that you can't let go at all.
@SocialMisfit Basically you are saying you and your church haven't done much about helping suffering people in this world because you are too busying worshiping and recruiting for the plastic Jesus.
It's respect to guide the dead back home to be with YOUR ancestors...The animals help carry all the gifts back and provide food to the person who passed. You believe in being with GOD after death and so do we believe in a life after death. Living as we are now with ancestors to provide and love them as GOD would provide and love you after death. What chains do you speak of that we carry and suffer from? We don't suffer alone but with our community as a family
Have you been to a HMONG funeral? Do you see the number of love shown there? All the donations everyone is willing to pitch in for the cost of the funeral and the family who lost a loved one. I've been to a Hmong church funeral and the believers came for a prayer and left afterwards but at HMONG funerals, FAMILY remain true at heart and stay until the end. Cry together no matter distant or related, HMONG funerals show the most support our religion has. So who suffers the most? THIS IS REALITY!
We never criticize your GOD but you criticize your own people and your roots. You forgot or are lost about who you are. Remember what blood run in your veins. I LOVE YOUR GOD and how he is but you ARE NOT LIKE YOUR GOD AT ALL!...Instead you are casting stones at the Shamans but not protecting us from other races who don't understand. How has GOD opened your eyes? Maybe GOD has not yet. That is why you can't see the beauty of being "HMONG".
I will only respect the opinions regarding your own religion. If you believe that you're not lost following "god", I completely understand; however, you stand to continue to express negativity towards Hmong people and their ancestral religion which is exactly what I have been trying to make clear to you that it is wrong and disrepectful.
im not disrespecting my culture and my ancestors...im not saying its BAD, but that they need to open their eyes to God. how can you let a single string around your wrist protect you. life without strings is fine. im good w/o a string around my wrist, and so can they. its not bad to know and learn about your culture, but open your eyes! God is here, why let yourself suffer from all those taboos. why not choose to live life like how you are suppose to live. free from all bonds of destruction.
Show me where God is. Please tell me who wrote the Bible? It is created by mankind. All religions are created by mankind. God is not the only way to go. You don't see god and you worship god. I worship my dead parents, grand parents, and so on because I know they once existed. God is created by the word of men. Either way, all religions are for the good of mankind.
maybe you should try opening a bible before you speak. there lies your answers. i'll make sure to tell God that you are looking for him...he'll be excited!
WHO IS "GOD"? We all are spiritual beings having a physical experience. What religion is right? You tell everyone those answers. Have you seen GOD? Please don't be ignorant to other religions.
Everyone in the world follows some sort or spiritual being as you do when you mention about GOD and prayers...So why would we others open their eyes to GOD?
You go to church every Sunday and pray your sins away, but you ridicule the Shamans of sacrifice and practice. Who gives you the right?GOD? I thought everyone is GOD's child including those who aren't christians. What is a GOD? What's his name? Who knows? All i know is that this is culture and this practice is what makes us "HMONG". Keeping our tradition of our ancestors alive if it weren't for them, you'd not be here today to ridicule your own roots.
Sin is with us since birth...so one can not pray their own sin away. maybe you should try opening a Bible and find answers instead of listening to what others have to say. ppl tend to exaggerate Gods words. God is someone who can open your eyes to see the things that are blind...you might understand your own culture as of now, but hopefully soon you might realize the truth.
personally i'd say that the whole shaman thing is a misleading practice. hmong ppl are leading their own ppl to tubtuag teb, and the devil is just smiling at that, he's pleased to see so many ppl walking away from God's path. im pretty sure most of the younger gen, dont really understand what they are dealing with in the shaman practice. just b/c your parents do shaman doesn't mean you have to do shaman.you have the right to choose.
Please leave your garbage out of my video and other videos. You are selfish and need to learn more about the world. A straight narrow bigoted person likes you will never understand the world. Please don't come in my video trying to make yourself sound like a messiah. Please don't make me report you to the institution of mental disorders.
@ niamtxiv...i know what the world is like, it is a sad and dying world in its own beauty. the world isn't as stable as it is. people aren't who they really are brought up to be anymore. im just putting in my 2cents in, and dont plan on sounding like a messiah,but only standing here hoping to shed a little light in these dark times. no need to hate on your hmong brothers and sisters.
you're full of crap... go to college and take anthropology, ethnic studies, and sociology and maybe you will learn to respect things in a CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE.. you're an ignorant hmong american...
es nes tsis yog hmong american thiab los? i respect my culture...i know my culture. this is just my opinion, no need to hate on me. watching someone do shaman is different from act. doing the calling. you dont even understand what you are getting yourselves into. you see, this is why hmong ppl dont have a country to begin with. you can't even handle a simple criticism to your own culture. you can not handle the world.
i am king shaman thats why they call me txivnengshaman may the shaman spirit be with all of you christian or not peace to all spirits. chase out the bad ones happy new year prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Tooooooooooooooy
Go to school and study about yourself. Shamanism is part of our culture. It is the core of our identity. If you don't like it, you're uneducated about who you are.
we're educated about our culture, we are hmong so of course we should know, but we just choose to be different. its time to step outside of the box and choose to see life in a different view. why stay blind forever...miracles happen everyday.
I love the belief of shaman because it is the only thing that stays true about our culture....Many may not believe in Ua neej but it is the answer when u loss hope....
yes, shamen is a part of the hmong clan...but sometimes shaman can be used as a way to get money. no one can say it is an answer to our loss. it works if you believe. but i feel that shaman is a misleadi
Hello young man I thought you are American because you speak English very well but when you speak Hmong Word ( Ua neeb) then I knew you are Hmong good job young man!!
Yawgthaub 2 months ago
killa that true. Shao is our prophet as Jesus is Christian prophet, or something like that, but we still believe in god. like my dad he's a shaman, say we believe in god but not Jesus.
s164114 3 months ago
That's doctor pera @ 2:47 from eastside stp MN. By autozone on arcade.
le34585 4 months ago
That's doctor pera @ 1:48 from stp MN. Yeah on the eastside by autozone on arcade.
le34585 4 months ago
Hey, i have the same bowl 1:17
CNX625 4 months ago
can you repost the link becaues it's not working! thx!
yehnij 5 months ago
You have to be a true believer, some txiv neeb is stronger then others. Doctors could not find out why I was infertile, so my only choice was to go through IVF, or ua neeb. After ua neeb I became pregnant one month after, and miscarried. After a year, I did it again and became pregnant again. This pregnancy is staying. Shamen is just like a doctor, he/she will do anything in their power to try and heal a person. I once was not a believer, and now am because I saw it in my own eyes...
kimandamy916 8 months ago
omg and i've been trying for so long now and i dont have any kids too....what can i do????
babeehgurl09 8 months ago
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exx123456 Thaum twg nej los yog koj ua neeb kho npua los yog tua tus npua theej txhoj tus tib neeg mob ntawg . koj tsis txhob noj cov nqaij npua nrog lawv es cia koj yog txiv ua neeb noj dua lwm yam zaub ntxuag mov xwb, Kab lis kev cai ua neeb yog li kuv hais no.
MrTouaxiong 9 months ago
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MrTouaxiong 9 months ago
@loverchicksful well see if you get picked on your judgment day
Killavigilante 9 months ago
whats up with people pronouncing HMONG, hmung?
xyoojboy95 9 months ago
Finally some peeps finally get that god can only do so much for you, it is SHAO, that will take you to the promise land NOW
Killavigilante 1 year ago
@Killavigilante fake SHAOs that is.
loverchicksful 9 months ago
@Killavigilante Shao is just a Hmong word to denote God or someone who is godlike...so please do not separate God from the Hmong. Hmong do not believe in Jesus Christ, but they do believe in God.
nrhiavkojxwb 6 months ago
whether ur a christian or not u should respect others..not criticize others regardless. this is the case with u SocialMisfit. if ur a true christian u would know the golden rule. obviously, ur ignorant who gets all fire-up on Sundays but remain an invisible christian for the rest of the week.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus
why keep this little light of mine behind a bush, i need to shine it so all the world can see. can't handle the truth, then dont read it~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
nothing, but jibberish. =)
niamtxiv 1 year ago
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@niamtxiv this is to everyone!!!
i dont get hmong people no more! we need to stop hating! just becuz our belief is different doesnt mean we have to go against each other. geez...
im pretty sure some of u guys r like what 20 or older now?
get a freaking life and be nice
we hating each other isnt going to help other races not hating us. so everyone just shut up and start loving each other!
Maileelauj 10 months ago
@SocialMisfit in response to what a christian like u judging other religions or person: it is not the responsibility for a christian to judge. God says in Luke 6:37, "judge not, and u will not be judge: condemn not, and u will not be condemn; forgive, and u will be forgiven." "true christians" out to live by the word of God before they say or do anything. being a true christians doesnt make them better or perfect by any means.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit and talking about not being able to handle the truth, it's u who cant handle the truth. so if u cant handle the truth then u should go and beat around the bush, or better yet, talk to a tree. ignorants like u make true christians look bad. ur like a wolf carrying a cross in sheeps clothing.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus
i never said i was a perfect christian...just wanted to put in my 2cents. dude no need to hate. relax man. its all good.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Yer gotta know, ANYONE advertising to the world that they are a "social misfit" really has said it all in the area of "self-condemnation" & NO amt of reasoning , logic, compassion, understanding or, or, or, will help them to STOP being bitter.
It's their soul's journey & ANYTHING that touches the "authentic-self-nerve” will instantly ignite the fuse of their ticking time bomb that's been patiently waiting for AN EXCUSE to blow up!!
Can't make the blind see if they don't want to!!
Aprize0 1 year ago
2Pac Is " MY " God =)
9CrackHouseEnt1 1 year ago
Shamanism all the way
93sonyjoe1 1 year ago
OMG its foung heu!! *the narrator* I want him to be senator!! 2010-2011!! btw Xiong Pao Lee is my grandpa, a great shaman
Yuesx 1 year ago
who is DOG!!!!! i mean god
fullwithlove 1 year ago
This is about the Hmong spiritual belief. If you don't like it, I suggest you go back and educate yourself about your native belief. Start learning about other cultures and their native practices. STFU and leave GOD out of this video. If you want to preach about your saint, do it somewhere else and not on our cultural videos. Don't like it, get lost and stfu. Your God is not my God and have nothing to do with my culture. Thank you very much.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
No need to hate on God, because he's just that popular. since when did the hmong culture belong to just you? it's not just yours...it's mine and everyone who is hmong. and for some of us, we choose to walk with God, dont be jealous that we want to stand out~ its time to make a change in the hmong history.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
first of all, I don't need to respond to you. You are a BIGOT. Do you understand that? I suggest you STFU or I will block you.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
i guess i'll have to be the bigger man, and let it go...obviously some ppl can't take criticism well.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit The reason why niamtxiv is angry is because our hmong people suffer a lot not because of religion but because of cruel people in this world that religion cannot change. For example, if you preach christianity in muslim or communist country, they make sure you are wipe off this earth. And here you are happy and a worshipper while the rest of your people suffer thinking you are right which is both sad and angers people. This is why you have to keep to yourself until you actually help
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao I am helping my suffering people and I am a shaman. You as a christian, what have you done to help your suffering people? We are good just like you and don't need your preaching, but the one back in Laos and Thailand are suffering, go preach to them where it is needed the most. You can be a Jesus by going to Laos to preach christianity, maybe you can change them if they don't put a bullet in your head first.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
christians have helped alot of cultures, and we have gone to laos, thailand, and china where we helped children and families learn about God and help with their daily life. hmong ppl have a choice they can make, ppl bring their own sufferings, it's nothing we can run from. it's a risk we take going into places like that, but we Thank God for making all things possible. and alot of lives have changed because we've helped them learn about their place in God's love.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit I never said anything about "we", I'm talking about you. Have you gone out to the world to do the work with your two bare hand? If you have not, then learn to keep quiet. I as a shaman don't get it easy dealing with evil spirits all the time, the same one you call demons. The one that make a person's house cold and sucks the life force out of people. If you haven't deal with one by yourself, then learn to keep quiet.
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zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
oh well, i meant we as in, our church's little groups. my bad~ i shouldn't have to keep quiet about my faith in God and where it takes me. it's my freedom of speech. do i sense someone getting tense? obviously you need to chill and relax. and take criticism to the heart. sharing our walk with God makes ppl more aware of the many possibilities they can have in love, faith and hope in a corrupt world.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit I'm not tense, but why are you mentioning about being tense? Maybe you are. If you don't understand what I just said; you don't know enough to teach others because you haven't got your hand dirty, you are like a little child that has plenty to eat, wait until you starve and then try to teach others. I bet it won't be happy joy joyy because all you can feel about is your starvation. Don't get it? Let me know and I'll explain some more.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
thanks for telling me that i'm like a child. because it's better to be like a child than an adult. slow to anger, and quick to forgive. your just saying that b/c your afraid to comitt yourself to God. so you have to put me down by degrading me. lol, but its cool~ talking about God can be really filling, and sometimes you dont feel so hungry. i might be starving, but the ending results are amazingly wonderful to experience God's blessings when you fast.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit No, you got it wrong. Your god isn't doing much in this world; it is a wrap around itself god which is what you are like. Just like you don't see the pain and suffering of others desperate in this world to survive. They need you and me to help them because we have better means. They don't have internet to come tell us, we have to go to them. When you start helping, you will find that it is through your hand that help them, not god's hand, though he work through you..
zmanthao 1 year ago
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zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
you talk as if christian don't help the world,when we donate so much money to poor countries.if shaman is so great,why dont you go and help the poor with your skills. im not blind,i see what's going on,it takes more than just 1 person to help the world.you should get off your alter and start doing some real talking with ppl instead of going behind cloth.stop jumping around, help those who can't walk.GOD gave us our gifts and abilities,because of them we are able to help those in need.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit ok one thing. u know it is possible to be both. if u chose too.
and for real every hmong person had a connection to shaman in there blood line. and it doesnt matter if u believe in god or what.
its real. many people might think its not becuz they never experience it.
my mom is a shaman. u cant just become one if u want. it is brought to u. kind of like u r the chosen one.
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
Whatever, It's 2010~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit so what if it is 2010. If U r dissing this then u r dissing ur own kind.
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
O.M.G your totally having a cow, just chill or go flips some bull horns for your answers Yo~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit u r so damn stupid. im not flipping out u dork. im just making a really good point here. :)
u know im right. and if u r dissing what i am saying then u r dissing ur ancestor! :) so back off. at least i aint dissing God. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
SocialMisfit is uneducated and very ignorant. Whoever he or she is, I suggest him or her taking Hmong history and learn about our origin.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
omgosh~ kuv tsis need paub os. im good thanks for the advice guys. so loving. awww~ the only person who's ignorant is the person calling others ignorant. how tus siab heev vim koj tsis txawj understand.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
Please, I understand clearly for your information. You really need to quit thinking that your religion is the truth because there is no truth. It is your belief, not mine. You really need to go back to school and expand your horizon because you clearly show lots of bigotry here.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
niamtxiv aws~ koj tsis need to be jealous and chim chim siab os. relax man~ it's going to be okay. just breathe! dont want you to get high blood pressure. chill already. lol~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
niamtxiv aws~ koj tsis need to be jealous and chim chim siab os. relax man~ it's going to be okay. just breathe! dont want you to get high blood pressure. chill already. lol~ bigotry is not a word silly.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@niamtxiv see. sometimes u have to think further then u think u do. Thx naimtxiv.
That is true. also forgetting ur culture isnt such a great idea too. even if u do go to church.
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
ahhaha dork~ that's cute. im making a good point as well. i wouldn't say you are correct. im just saying that Hmong ppl need to grow to change into something NEW and leave the OLD as memories in words and images. That's good that your not dissing God, may God bless you!
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit Thank u that u think that dork is cute.
but if u r dissing shaman than u r dissing god.
becuz god made us different for some reason, u dork.
so if u really what to keep saying dumb sh!t about shaman then u need to go rethink and go ask ur hmong friends.
also i have lots of come back u might not know of. :)
Oh and i know that god blesses me! :) But does god bless u?
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
You are living in denial. =)
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
PUAHAHHAHAHH, YOUR FUNNY! good stuff~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
SocialMisfit, you can't be serious? You lack historical knowledge of Christianity and yet, you like to call yourself a Christian. Do you know who is Jesus Christ? Did you know he was not crucify nor was he the son of God according to the Islamic Faith and according to the old Testament. Did you know that Muslims and Jewish consider those who read the new Testament as following the false faith. You are really funny trying to be smart here, Hmong kid.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
AHA-HA! why you getting so mad. chill my hmong brother. where's the love eh~ that is the islamic faith, why dont you leave them alone...we all believe something different, but what ppl teach you is what you got to do, like open with your eyes and ears to listen and choose wisely in the things you believe. DURRRR~ got it, get it, GOOD~ it's all good.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit IF "WE" r getting mad the wouldnt this "!" be at every sentence?
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
GIRL~ its nothing! you dont need "!" just to be mad. omgee~ get with the program. this is 2010...we can use "!" in any way we want. ahahha~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit well then we aint piss then u dumb. :)
u know we just burn u really hard that's why u r not getting over it.
dont try to hard. :)
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
aha-ha. maileelauj es, the things you say feel like a rice, i pick it and eat it. you should hang out with ppl your own age. im too good for you~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit own age but still u say to good?
u r so dorky. :)
well, if u think u r to good for me then u r just dissing god u know why?
becuz u r suppose to respect every and treat everyone the same. so if i were u, u i wouldnt even dear for u to do what u r trying to do.
u just know that u arent good enough for anybody. so u try to pick someone to fight . with. so plz Mr.~~~~~~ or Ms.~~~~XP
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj es, koj mas so funny heev~ tsis cas understand kuv lis os. koj is still little kid, koj tsis paub xwb os. txhob chim chim siab, uas siab ntev ntev mos. Lol~ koj tsis need paus kuv yog leeg twb, but koj have to paus where koj stand in the end, thiab qhov uas koj believe nws paub save koj from everything. oki-doki. ahahaha. yog tsis paub, ces ask kuv, i'll be here! wink wink*
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit hahaha no im fine u know why? cuz i have many hmong church friends who think the way i do. and doesn't dis their own ancestors. I dont know how old u r but i know one thing about u. U dont have respect for anyone except ur love ones.
oh and thank you that u think im funny! :P
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
its good to know that you are actually surrounded with friends that go to church. that's amazing, i pray that God may lead you with their positivity. im sure they feel the same way like I do, but don't want to hurt your feelings. you are still young and immature to know about God's plan for you, it's gonna be your turn any day. when it is, you can thank God. toodles =)
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit hahaha i dont know. who knows maybe but guess what im not going to follow yet. im not planning soon. if u want to plan it for me in ur head then go ahead. :)
u just need to know that if u r dissing shaman than u r dissing ur ancestors. so grow up and deal with that u were once shaman. :P
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@Maileelauj
i was never actually shaman, i grew up as a christian. but my uncles were, and it dont look so good for them, they sick all the time. its sad. thanks for your concern, but im more concern about you.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit hahahaha awww thank u do much for being concern for me. :)
but to be truthful to u, u r getting bored and i have a life to live. :)
Maileelauj 1 year ago
@fondyboi
paper is paper, it burns and turns to ashes. it can not help our ancestors or you. we cant carry materialistic things with us when we die. im sorry to say, but you are fooled at what you know and see...stubborness does not open doors to truth.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
money doesn't exist in death...you are fooled. how long are you going to burn paper as money, stop polluting the air. how sad. we came with nothing into this world, and will leave with nothing when we go back. in dust we came, and to dust we will return.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit You are talking about something that you cannot understand unless you can see beyond the realm of the living. We came with a lot of stuff into this world and many of that got losted. For example you, your parents did not know that you have abilities through your identity, but you will never know if you do not try to search and understand it. Christian kills that identity, this is why all christians have no gifted people. Like a bowl of soup that looks really good, but has no taste.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit Not everything as you know is what it seems. There is are spiritual structure behind our physical experience. I have not read the bible, but I think it only mentions about heaven. The quran mention 7 heaven levels (more accurate). Even more accurate is unlimited heaven level, both physical and spiritual. You see how little you know? We do not understand spiritual around us including burning paper, thus we must not limit ourself base on what we read, we must experience first hand.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao We use that spiritual knowledge to heal the sick, if the sick is heal, then we know it is possible that it is the truth what we saw and many shaman see the same thing when they cross that border. This is why hmong shaman has a very strong root because it work.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
you might want to try to read the Bible then, and find answers that could open your eyes too. there are alot of Gods out there...but there's only 1 alpha omega in the end. ppl in different cultures have different Gods and meanings. but if you are confident in your God, why search for another. like i said, we came naked into this world, came with nothing...and we'll leave with nothing, back to dust, just as God made us.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
Please leave your God out of this. God has nothing to do with our culture. Thank you very much. I hope you know your root.
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SocialMisfit 1 year ago
Dear SocialMisfit, I suggest you go relearn about your root and maybe you'll be proud about who you are.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
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SocialMisfit 1 year ago
i know who i am, i know my roots...and i've seen what it can and cant do...change is good, its a sign of growth. maybe its time that our roots learn to expand and grow outside of the box sometimes.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@fondyboi
LOL...i like the humor
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@ fondyboi
you know when you die, you can't take money with you...what makes you think you can take a cow, chicken and a pig with you. maybe you should listen to the words of what the shaman's say to the dead and try to comprehend its meaning before speaking. its sad to know that hmong ppl have been mis-led for so many years. and their stubbornness is what keeps them from God.
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SocialMisfit 1 year ago
Thank you so much for sharing a good VDO.
smarthomebiz 2 years ago
Everyone will have their own opinions and beliefs when it comes to religion. Allowing one to express themselves freely in regards to their religious beliefs is perfectly fine; BUT it is not acceptable to bash other religious beliefs. No one religion is superior to the other. They're all almighty in their own scope. And for the hmong people who are bashing on their own religion, I just hope your ancestors can forgive you.
pachizzle88 2 years ago
its not that we bash our own religion, we just choose to see life in a different view. it's better to be different than the same. God has His own purpose for the way things are. We will see eachother in the end of time. Till then, let us do what we can when we are still able and when the sun still rise.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
You can choose to see life in a different view without bashing a religion. Express your religious beliefs without criticizing the other beliefs is possible. I don't see why there is a need to criticize other beliefs; and I'm sure if you were to bash Christianity or Hindi, I'm sure the Christians and Hindus would not be able to tolerate it either. One should not be so stereotypical; it's not just hmong people who can not take criticism. It's only human nature.
pachizzle88 2 years ago
i dont see how i was bashing any religion at all. everyone has their own opinions to their religions. i cant help it, if i have strong feelings towards my christian belief. every christian stands on their own views. there is a religious war out there daily, this is only normal. we can fight for whatever side we choose, lets just hope that it can save us in the end. For the Lord comes like a thief in the night. And the day of the Lord is darkness.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
In all honesty, I was just speaking in general about bashing other religions; you replied to it with offense and so, I had to respond as well. Clarifications is all that's needed. I had no intention to directly attack you. It was just a response to all the negative comments on here. And there would be no religious war out there if everyone could just accept the fact that people are different in what they believe. War breaks out when one believe they're superior. Why must we fight?
pachizzle88 2 years ago
its life...if we can't control our own hearts desire, we can't control the outcome of the world's actions. only when their is a life crisis happening, is the only time when everyone act. pulls together and helps. the world is free with its ways, so ppl do as they please. everyone is selfish at heart. how sad it is to be God and to gaze upon his corrupted creation.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
If you know that mankind is so corrupted, then don't add to the problem but instead be a part of the solution. Don't hesistate to understand other religions just because those that you're following do hesitate to understand. I agree, it is only when life crisis comes about that causes people to act together which is quite sad. But that doesn't mean you should wait. Start your understanding now. :)
pachizzle88 2 years ago
i understand enough about the things i daily see and hear, thank you very much...seems like you dont comprehend on my POV. but its okay...we all can't think alike. this is basically going nowhere. hmong ppl are lost.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
Since you're not getting what I'm trying to say either, looks like I don't. Even if we can't think alike, we can still respect the other different thoughts. Just a thought. And Hmong people may be lost people in regards to having no land or country to call their own, but they are not lost at heart. True Hmong people know who they are and what they're capable of; there's no sign of lost there.
pachizzle88 2 years ago
i guess i meant to say that hmong ppl who practice shaman are lost. please RESPECT this opinion. hmong in general may not be lost...shamanism may just be a part of our culture and of who we are, but shamanism doesn't lead to the narrow road. maybe you should look for God in your life. it may open your eyes to see the world differently.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
People who practice shamanism are not lost. It's a culture a religion just like how you believe in god and or being a christian.
cutehmgrl 2 years ago 5
do you understand the words the txivneeg says sometimes. do you know what he means when he sends the dead back home. do you have to kill so many animals to get your spirit back? only when you die, does your spirit leave you. your spirit can't go on its own. its sad to see shaman ppl tie their life unto something thats misleading.why let yourself suffer, why carry those heavy chains. its time to let go, and live. let God carry your heavy burdens. thats all im saying. you dont have to suffer alone
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
@SocialMisfit
You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Please don't act like you know what Hmong traditions are all about. You are selfish and naive. Do you need me to tell you again that you are an ignorant person. I suggest you get more diverse friends and stop trying to be a messiah. You are not superior. You don't need to brag about your religion. Please be respectful. You came into my videos with the intention to spew hate. Please watch your language.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
i had no intentions of "spewing" hate, nor did i use any kind of swear words. i know what i am talking about, i do know the hmong traditions, i have uncles and aunts who still are shaman, so im fully aware. i didnt say i was superior or tryna be a messiah at all. why are you labeling me all of a suddenly? here i am just telling you to be open to God, and you are bashing me with your "ignorance". but I will pray for you, thats the most i can do. (^__^)v
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
there you go again, tell me you're going to pray for me. sorry, i do not need your prayer. i have my own faith. you need to get that through your bigoted head. i suggest you go out more and stop trying to go around telling me about your religion. you are disrespectful and i suggest you go back and reread your comments.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
i will pray wether you like it or not. be happy now, cheer up. its going to be okay. why are you getting so mad over something so little. txoj uas siab mes mas...siab loj loj, okay! vajtswb foom khoom moov rau koj~
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
he can pray for you. even if you don't need his prayer, he can still do what he wants. its his religion so let him do what he please.
you two are looking at each other too negatively...no matter what religion we are, we are still hmong. please have some respect.
ucmhsa 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit Believe it or not, you aren't protected as you think you are as a christian. I am a shaman and I've seen dirty christian spirits that cannot leave this realm infesting churches and the people within. Us shaman have our problem too, but at least we can see, feel them and do something about it and see if it really work or not. This is why we are so effective, unlike christian. All that bad stuff you mentioned about shaman, I don't like and don't them.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
i respect your opinions. i guess it's just not your calling, everyone has their own meeting with God. the only thing that'll i'll disagree is the fact that you label christians as dirty spirits...there is no perfect christian, perfection doesn't exist in God's love for us. just b/c you see one dirty christian doesn't mean all are dirty. no one is perfect in this world, we are all born sinners.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit It was a faithful christian guy at work that was infested with these unclean christian spirits. They make the guy arouse around man. Because christian cannot see it, they do not know what's infesting their church and preacher, thus infesting them. Their blind believe is strong because of these spirits, but these spirits interact with people through them. This is why it is very difficult being human because 99.9% cannot see it.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
not every good christian lives a perfect life, we all struggle just to find our own belief. wether old or young, we all have different walks of life in God. and i can understand where you are going too...ppl aren't always who they say they are...ppl bend God's words around. that's why it's very important to find yourself in God, and find your own answers. seems like you only hear about christians who are corrupt, where's the good in that?
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@niamtxiv all he wanted to do is to give you a chance to accept god into your life, eventho he surely know you won't. its still worth a try.
lespaulguitarist92 1 year ago
@lespaulguitarist92 What you don't understand is some shamans are agents of god and god works directly through them. These kind of shaman knows everything on the other side including the stuff found in your bible and they been there. They are the witness and proof of existence of heaven and hell. You know so little, a shaman know so much...
zmanthao 1 year ago
i understand why you would say those things but you didn't give God a chance with your faith,how can you doubt Him with things that you "think" you know just because your a shaman.seeing everyone struggle in their faith, shows alot.its not easy believing in God at least i can still try everyday,but it's harder living the shaman life with strings attached.i dont want to be a shaman just to know alot i rather walk by faith and not know.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit All I have is respect for you and hope you open your eye a little more. I think you and I believe in the same thing. I don't require fees to help people, in fact, me and my wife gave close to $200k to save Hmong life and ask for nothing in return. That's all our savings and we have 4 children. I do this because I believe one person can make a difference in this world and that the end may be coming for the wicked and hope that father will spare some of us.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
i do have my eyes open. sometimes it hurts to know that the ppl around me are missing out in God's grace. its just sad to see ppl suffer and not know what they are getting themselves into when the key is right there in their hands. my uncle is a shaman, he's always sick, have another uncle who is a paster, that i dont really agree with the things he say and do. i might be young, but i know where im headed in his corrupt world. but thanks for being cool about everything!
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
Everything I tell you about is base on recent and verified action, not some talking that is 2000 years old out of a book, who knows how many peoples add what to it and all its believers with no proof of its existence. If you want to know your bible is true or not, you might want to ask a shaman try to verify it, we can do that at no charge. Otherwise your bible is only good to keep warm as a fire source during winter. Did you know modern medicine was from amazonian that spoke with forest spirit?
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
i dont know how old you are but by the time it survives 2000 years, it says more than just recent. you might not believe it, but it's been already done. just don't wait till forever to come to God. Our timing isn't God's timing. im not gonna say much after this, because you can't find answers behind a black cloth.
(Romans 8:18) For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which will be revealed toward us.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit
Please do not preach.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv
im not preaching. im quoting from the Bible. no need to hate, appreciate~
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit I respect you for sharing this info so can you explain what roman 8:18 mean in your own definition to me? Thanks. About the black clothe, please respect them, they sacrificed their blood and tear, laying down their life for my and your existence more than we know. They are no more. They are our great and grandfather and mother. If you respect them, you are worthy for being hmong and sacrafice, if not, no god or jesus can protect you because you don't respect your own kind.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao Just because we lost much of our rich curlture through many wars with the chinese and other civ doesn't mean you should go astray from your root. Even Jesus know this about you and can only protect you half way, the rest, he cannot travel or guide you and this is when you have to turn back this way because no one will accept you accept your kind. Why do you think you were born Hmong?
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
@zmanthao
you should check this out if you want that is?maybe you have heard of Rev. Vam Txoov Lis before. nothing wrong in making a change in who we are. to change is to grow out of what we used to be, and into something new. i respect my ancestors, but im willingly to risk my life for a greater cause. God's got my back, idk about yours, but i'll be praying for you! ;)
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit Don't tell me you still worshiping the white Jesus because the Black worship the black Jesus and the Asian worship the Asian Jesus and the Mexican worship the Mexican Jesus. Or is there a Hmong Jesus now that I don't know about?
zmanthao 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit Simple, have you met Jesus? If you can't answer this simple question honestly, you are a liar to yourself and others.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
lol, Jesus is just like any other figures such as Santa Claus, Elves and Fairies.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@zmanthao
your so funny! it just amazes me how much you doubt God's existence, that it's saddens me. thanks for the laugh. so many ppl are like you, who would rather see then believe. honestly, it just hasn't gotten to you yet. how much longer will you choose to stand aside from God's love. ppl create those white, black and asian God, but true christians know that God is God. santa, elves and fairies are more like folklore stories. God is greater than that. only a fool says there is no God.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit I'm glad you took it jokingly, but it is true. I drove down a black neighbor and there was a huge black jesus with open arm painted on a church wall. Then there's the black hair Jesus to resemble asian. Wow, I think its time you dress him up in hmong custome! God s not about material possession, so you should give all your good away to the poor and needy and live on the street for 3 days and I'm sure god will proof you are right, but for now, you are still wrong.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
just b/c a black man portrays Jesus as that, doesn't mean that you should assume things. True, that God is not about mat. possession but we should be thankful for the things he blesses us with, and share it with the world. you dont have to tell me that, b/c as a christian we got that more than covered. it's better to give than to receive. you are just that stubborn huh. LOL. like i said, He's got the whole world in his hand, so why not join the race and follow.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
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zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
it's true that we can't see him, but his miracles i have seen, just waking up the next day is a blessing. alot of ppl believe in God, not just americans but chinese and ppl all over the world. i might be a liar, but im not the only one lying about Jesus. there's a fire burning faith that roars all over the world, and it's all about Jesus. whether you believe him or not, he's got the whole world in his hands. and there's still a spot for you! see how special you are!
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit If you want to get to know father in heaven and Jesus just a little bit more, help thousands of people in this world that are suffering because of femine or war or hate. It is a very horrible and sad situation. I guarantee it will change the way you think whether you are a christian or shaman. This is as close as you can get to what you mentioned in roman 8:18. The reason why I ask, but you cannot answer. Mine are real, but yours are in head only because you haven't done the work.
zmanthao 1 year ago
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zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
projects like that are growing in the christian community, we're slowly reaching out to those who need faith in life and in God. it's amazing how much we've done, and the results are amazing. as far as the interpretations for Romans 8:18...you shouldn't worry and waste time in the world's ways and how much sadness it brings, rather look forward to the glory and excitement that will come. basically jesus returns. God has so much power and love, that you can't let go at all.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
@SocialMisfit Basically you are saying you and your church haven't done much about helping suffering people in this world because you are too busying worshiping and recruiting for the plastic Jesus.
zmanthao 1 year ago
@zmanthao
puas yuav cia siab tau1
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
It's respect to guide the dead back home to be with YOUR ancestors...The animals help carry all the gifts back and provide food to the person who passed. You believe in being with GOD after death and so do we believe in a life after death. Living as we are now with ancestors to provide and love them as GOD would provide and love you after death. What chains do you speak of that we carry and suffer from? We don't suffer alone but with our community as a family
stylsv 1 year ago
Have you been to a HMONG funeral? Do you see the number of love shown there? All the donations everyone is willing to pitch in for the cost of the funeral and the family who lost a loved one. I've been to a Hmong church funeral and the believers came for a prayer and left afterwards but at HMONG funerals, FAMILY remain true at heart and stay until the end. Cry together no matter distant or related, HMONG funerals show the most support our religion has. So who suffers the most? THIS IS REALITY!
stylsv 1 year ago
We never criticize your GOD but you criticize your own people and your roots. You forgot or are lost about who you are. Remember what blood run in your veins. I LOVE YOUR GOD and how he is but you ARE NOT LIKE YOUR GOD AT ALL!...Instead you are casting stones at the Shamans but not protecting us from other races who don't understand. How has GOD opened your eyes? Maybe GOD has not yet. That is why you can't see the beauty of being "HMONG".
stylsv 1 year ago
I will only respect the opinions regarding your own religion. If you believe that you're not lost following "god", I completely understand; however, you stand to continue to express negativity towards Hmong people and their ancestral religion which is exactly what I have been trying to make clear to you that it is wrong and disrepectful.
pachizzle88 2 years ago
im not disrespecting my culture and my ancestors...im not saying its BAD, but that they need to open their eyes to God. how can you let a single string around your wrist protect you. life without strings is fine. im good w/o a string around my wrist, and so can they. its not bad to know and learn about your culture, but open your eyes! God is here, why let yourself suffer from all those taboos. why not choose to live life like how you are suppose to live. free from all bonds of destruction.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
Show me where God is. Please tell me who wrote the Bible? It is created by mankind. All religions are created by mankind. God is not the only way to go. You don't see god and you worship god. I worship my dead parents, grand parents, and so on because I know they once existed. God is created by the word of men. Either way, all religions are for the good of mankind.
calhmoob 1 year ago
@ calhmoob
maybe you should try opening a bible before you speak. there lies your answers. i'll make sure to tell God that you are looking for him...he'll be excited!
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
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seegullable 1 year ago
WHO IS "GOD"? We all are spiritual beings having a physical experience. What religion is right? You tell everyone those answers. Have you seen GOD? Please don't be ignorant to other religions.
stylsv 1 year ago
Everyone in the world follows some sort or spiritual being as you do when you mention about GOD and prayers...So why would we others open their eyes to GOD?
stylsv 1 year ago
You go to church every Sunday and pray your sins away, but you ridicule the Shamans of sacrifice and practice. Who gives you the right?GOD? I thought everyone is GOD's child including those who aren't christians. What is a GOD? What's his name? Who knows? All i know is that this is culture and this practice is what makes us "HMONG". Keeping our tradition of our ancestors alive if it weren't for them, you'd not be here today to ridicule your own roots.
stylsv 1 year ago
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SocialMisfit 1 year ago
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@ stylsv
Sin is with us since birth...so one can not pray their own sin away. maybe you should try opening a Bible and find answers instead of listening to what others have to say. ppl tend to exaggerate Gods words. God is someone who can open your eyes to see the things that are blind...you might understand your own culture as of now, but hopefully soon you might realize the truth.
SocialMisfit 1 year ago
personally i'd say that the whole shaman thing is a misleading practice. hmong ppl are leading their own ppl to tubtuag teb, and the devil is just smiling at that, he's pleased to see so many ppl walking away from God's path. im pretty sure most of the younger gen, dont really understand what they are dealing with in the shaman practice. just b/c your parents do shaman doesn't mean you have to do shaman.you have the right to choose.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
Please leave your garbage out of my video and other videos. You are selfish and need to learn more about the world. A straight narrow bigoted person likes you will never understand the world. Please don't come in my video trying to make yourself sound like a messiah. Please don't make me report you to the institution of mental disorders.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
@ niamtxiv...i know what the world is like, it is a sad and dying world in its own beauty. the world isn't as stable as it is. people aren't who they really are brought up to be anymore. im just putting in my 2cents in, and dont plan on sounding like a messiah,but only standing here hoping to shed a little light in these dark times. no need to hate on your hmong brothers and sisters.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
@SocialMisfit
you're full of crap... go to college and take anthropology, ethnic studies, and sociology and maybe you will learn to respect things in a CULTURAL PERSPECTIVE.. you're an ignorant hmong american...
hmglor 2 years ago
es nes tsis yog hmong american thiab los? i respect my culture...i know my culture. this is just my opinion, no need to hate on me. watching someone do shaman is different from act. doing the calling. you dont even understand what you are getting yourselves into. you see, this is why hmong ppl dont have a country to begin with. you can't even handle a simple criticism to your own culture. you can not handle the world.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
i am king shaman thats why they call me txivnengshaman may the shaman spirit be with all of you christian or not peace to all spirits. chase out the bad ones happy new year prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Tooooooooooooooy
txivnengshaman 2 years ago
Hey its my uncle! Txong Yee yaj! haha well whoopdeedoo.
TheYSquaredChannel 2 years ago
my little cousin is a txivneeb..hes about 14 or 16 years old...
mandead10 2 years ago
At niamtxiv- Dumb bitch...im a shaman...big head. I was joking...ah hah..mad for out of no where...loser!
cHenuyai 2 years ago
Bitch!
Yall brother was kill thats why your whole whole family go to church....Like they alwasys say. Scare to to church!
cHenuyai 2 years ago
@cHenuyai
Go to school and study about yourself. Shamanism is part of our culture. It is the core of our identity. If you don't like it, you're uneducated about who you are.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
we're educated about our culture, we are hmong so of course we should know, but we just choose to be different. its time to step outside of the box and choose to see life in a different view. why stay blind forever...miracles happen everyday.
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
dont lose Hope.
vang0165 2 years ago
Go to church is better because shaman is so expensive. fukk shaman. church is cheaper.
cHenuyai 2 years ago
@cHenuyai
You are hilarious. lolol Retard.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
ahhaha, agree! but even if church is cheaper, it comes with a price as well...if church is cheap, is your faith worthless then?
SocialMisfit 2 years ago
@cHenuyai What do you mean go to church is cheap and shaman is expensive? can you expain your point on both parts?
Tor7men7ted2 1 year ago
I love the belief of shaman because it is the only thing that stays true about our culture....Many may not believe in Ua neej but it is the answer when u loss hope....
kimandamy916 2 years ago 6
yes, shamen is a part of the hmong clan...but sometimes shaman can be used as a way to get money. no one can say it is an answer to our loss. it works if you believe. but i feel that shaman is a misleadi