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  • These clips are taken out of context and put together in a montage to make a point. There isn't much artistic integrity in that.

  • Misrepresentation.

  • mairlyn manson deserves hell

  • 2:04 - Is that New Mystics founder John Crowder?

  • I feel so sorry for Marilyn Manson. His punishment in Hell is gonna be very severe. I sure hope he repents before he dies.

  • Hail Satan \m/ \m/

  • "Our main audience is the people here..." Well, if you're talking about the average music consumer, I have bad news for you... they aren't watching this, anymore than they're seriously contemplating the latest UFO "documentary" on the Sci-Fi channel. If, however, you mean actual musicians, and educated Christians, like myself... well, we all know you're snowjob expose' is a load of horse crap. Either way, you're an imbecile, profiting off the ignorance of people dumb enough to buy your rubbish.

  • @WilliamBlackWolf you just described the whole of religion "profiting off the ignorance of people dumb enough to buy" This describes absolutely every preacher for every religion in existence. Well done.

  • @TheCaptainLulz I would say that that is precisely the definition of Media, which controls masses' minds and to blind them from the truth and the critical thinking

  • @aletini Remember though, the media produces a product, people dont have to buy it, they chose to. Its not hard to turn off a tv, people just dont want to.

  • @TheCaptainLulz Of course! Everything we do is a choice. Yet it is media who tells us what it's acceptable and what's not, how to dress, what type of car to drive, where to live... It is media what control masses.

    Look around! Religions do not control the world. That's what the media tells us when in fact, it is the media who controls it. Take the blind off and see for yourself :O

  • @aletini Religions are fully prevalant throughout the whole world, the tv is not. Less than half of the world has any access to the tv, and most that do in the 3rd world watch Bollywood, not hollywood. Its a big world out there bud, and far less of it is americanized than you think.

  • @WilliamBlackWolf I'm fairly certain that the main audience is non-christians like myself who enjoy these documentaries for their sheer entertainment value.

  • @ral1334 And the great soundtrack! lol

  • @WilliamBlackWolf Indeed. I actually got my first glimpse at what later became some of my favorite bands from Mr. Holmberg here. Although I'd have to say that soundtrack for the original Hells Bells was much better as hip-hop hadn't yet dominated the music scene then.

  • well i guess im going to hell cuz i love rock n roll

  • If you admittedly don't believe in God, how do you know if religion was invented or not? Are you not claiming to be knowledgeable on a subject you don't really know much about? And me not believing in the reality of the moon, because I can't touch it myself, doesn't negate the reality of it. The same can be said of your belief about God. Are there abuses in religion? of course; just like there's abuse in science & the justice system. But that doesn't invalidate it nor make it irrelevant.

  • Thank you for enlighting the youth!

  • This documentary is scary, I may just watch it with a parental guardian in case I become demonic.

  • I wonder what this guy would say about Lady Gaga! lol

  • I see that the mullet is gone, but fortunately he still has that mustache :) lol

  • METAL FUCKING RULES!!!!!!!!!!  :D \m/

  • an amazingly well documented video series..food for thought for everybody, that's for sure! thanks for posting this needed information!

  • Typical Bullshit coming from Marilyn Manson -.- And im a Rock n roll lover but i Hate Marilyn Manson .|.

  • to all you religus freaks. you well not go to hell because you like music. i personaly dont belive in god but if he is real he would be ashamed of you.

  • @ironmaiden66695 No, but for sin. And Rock "music" promotes sin. That is what this documentary is about ;)

  • @ironmaiden66695 This coming from a person who admittedly doesn't believe in God...smh.

  • @macmajii do you belive god would like how people treat each other about small things like music. and i dont belive in god because religion was invented because acient people needed a way to explane the world and why things happen. if god was real, and you can belive what you want im no aginst religion, he or she would not want people to act like this. religion has become wrong.

  • Po' children they are so lost they don't even know I have to pray for them.

  • It's clear to see from many of the negative comments that the wicked suppress the truth with unrighteousness. Let God be true and every man a liar.

  • @fourbyfourblazer and may the eventually see the truth

  • :) self refuting guy. I need to cook with feces to prove that the passage in Ezekiel 4 is prophetic/symbolic? There's no scarcity of burning fuel right now, If i had to cook and didnt have fuel i would certainly use anything available that burns. What a clown u are sir. You are laughable, buffoon and sad miserable depraved and lonely individual. And look up again the defition according to strong's conconrdance of SKY, i think you are the moron.

  • These guys make the best rock documentarys. I discover so much new music from the Hellses Bellses!

  • I think Manson was drag into a bad place b y his parents that made him like this. The church he was in always segregated him badly. I understand why he is like this

  • Yay! This should be called 'Hell's Bells 2: Return of Porn Stache Man!'

  • This is a very powerful film, thank God for Eric Holmberg, I got the dvd years ago, I'm very glad to see it going around the world on youtube.

  • You are retarded! Pls stfu and stop talking about things you don't know shit. Spare the rest of your stupidity...

    thx

  • Thanks for the vids even though I am saved by Jesus, I realised I was still doing what I wanted to do. So this has really opened my eyes as to the crude mesages of popular media on teh masses

  • IF your basis is the bible and the bible clearly advocates GENOCIDE twice by the Lord God BEFORE there was a Law.

    The bible also calls women PROPETY.

    Rape is called humbling a woman,

    Disobedient children are to be Stoned to death.

    JESUS advocated Self mutilation. Cuttin off your hand, foot, or taking your eye out!

    JESUS also advocated SLAVERY.

    As well as beating / whipping Slaves.

    The bible also calls YOU A SLAVE!

    You think we get our morals from this?

  • @PastorIblis Your outta contex

  • @MetalEvangelion777

    Out of context LOL

    Pointing out the fact that there was NO LAW before Exodus 20 is somehow Out of Context.

    If what i am saying is Out of Context then perhaps you can explain a context where Women being Property is good.

    Or where a "Virgin" woman that is raped must marry her rapest is good.

    But then show the context where a married woman that is raped gets Stoned to death is good too. Oh yes and you must do this IN the same Subject since that is how it is written!

  • @PastorIblis, half of your Biblical quotes are blatant misrepresentations. Jesus never advocated slavery (scripture?), and never calls anyone a slave. The first portions are old testament and have been outlawed. The new law in Christ is love, as he was the completion of the O.T. law according to scripture.

  • @sweets3000

    First you need to understand the Greek langage and what Servant means. Servant is the Greek word 1401 and means a slave (literally or figuratively, involuntarily or voluntarily;

    Secondly what parts of the Old Testament have been outlawed? and By Who?

    PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THIS!

    Thirdly Do you seriously think advocatiing self-mutulation is a message of love?

    Matthew 5:29 - 30

    Mark 9:43 - 48

    As well as Jesus advocatiing beating people with stripes!

    Luke 12:47 - 48

  • @PastorIblis lool sweets3000 is right. The verses in matthew and mark are clearly about how serious a person should take hell. There is none as blind as those who are not willing to see:p

  • @BJ151

    Does this mean you really think threats of violence is the sign of an All Loving being?

    If someone says love me or I'll kick you in the nuts and you refuse to love them then based on Christian logic you deserve to be kicked in the nuts. After all you were given a choice and you made a choice not to love someoone that threatened to kick you in the nuts.

    So when they kick you in the nts you can say well i brought that on myself. I had the choice and i rejected them.

  • @PastorIblis you obviously made your choice then. God is not anyone. He is God Almighty, sovereign, self-sufficient and all powerful and he explains clearly in His Word what this life is about. There is only one way to save man from his condition of sin and that is Jesus Christ. Reject him and you condemn yourself under God's law. If you reject the hand that saves you in a perillous situation you're a fool. What is left is just your bitter posts. May God have mercy on you.

  • @Eyezel7

    You are no different then those that tortured so called heretic's and witches during the inquisitions.  You think that not mouthing the correct magic words means it is right, good and just to torture that person. All because they didn't say what you demanded they say.

    If someone walks up and starts calling you names are you immediately going oh thank you I know I am a total shit ball you are so wonderful. If you don't why do you glorify this behavior in your God?

  • @Eyezel7

    You know Nothing about me & yet just because i reject your sadistic child murdering, slavery glorifying, Abuse excusing fantasy deity you think that should warrent some kind of torture.

    Have you seriously bumpped your head?

    If a human would treat you as the God of the bible treated people you would Hate them and say they are pure evil. Yet because you are Afraid of what will occur after death you exucse behavior that is totally evil.

    Was Hitler only Evil because he wasn't a Deity?

  • @Eyezel7

    Additionally

    The word God is a general term for a deity to which there have been well over 3,000 worshiped in human history. You do not believe in over 2,998 of them and yet the one you think is real (Even though there is ZERO evidence in any) can be as cruel, sadistic and blood thrusty as those ancient stories have written and you will be there going right along with it.

    While I am saying Look at how the fucker acts!

    Even IF it would be real to praise evil makes you EVIL TOO!

  • @PastorIblis I would appreciate to know why your focal point is Christ. I'm actually unsure why you could read the gospels (although you might see them as false) and not be compelled to think the philosophy and practical advice contained within, is not beneficial and apt to our human issues such as self-control, which the lack of, leads to our destruction (here on earth) ie lust adultery murder envy, nevermind the afterlife. Have not read & believed 1 thing re: Christ that was evil / enslaving.

  • @earthbirthp

    Actually the focal point depends on who i am talking to. There are multiple aspects of the Ancient world upon which i can and do speak.

    In this series i have mentioned at least once how the concept of evil as it is known today began in the 6th century with zoroasterism.

    However as for the bible it is largely a sociological work speaking more to the culture that was around at that time then our world today.

    Masons believe Jesus and Satan were one in the same.

  • @PastorIblis Sure, it was centred and expressed around a culture, but the themes or let's specifically say the laws and the parables are not just for show.

    I understand there are many sub-laws about unclean this and that, that were culturally based (although not yet fallable), but I cannot deny that the laws and parables in effect make us less inconsequential and are quite relevant today.

    I feel controlled by everything other than these instructions, and am no biblebasher, I see religion as evil

  • @earthbirthp

    There are 613 laws in the old testament and one of them is against killing an innocent man. Which means this Jesus had to be guilty of breaking one of the jewish laws and thus could not be perfect as is claimed.

    Most of the old testament laws are not relevant today.

    The do not kill, steal, lie those are social laws which are necessary to have a society. But all of the laws against incest are really not that big of an issue today.

    Thde parables were simply stories.

  • @PastorIblis cold intellectualism, regarding the OT. Naive as I may come across, I've heard this argument about laws, but apparently Jesus himself interpreted the OT laws and specifically the commandments, explaining that he would not be satisfiying old customs but causing problems because of clarifications on the old laws. If there are faults in the OT, It'll never make the suspected God's son, fallable. Christ's philosophy is real & unbeatable. I love having my mind changed. I was anti-christ

  • @earthbirthp

    The Jesus figure is a bit strange when you look at all of what he said.

    In one breath he taught peace and non violence. in another he tells them to go and buy a sword.

    Then there is the changing ways to get into Heaven.

    First it was unless yor righteousness exceeds the scribes... you can not get into heaven.

    Then it was unless you are converted like a little child.

    Then it was unless you Eat My Flesh & Drink My Blood.

    The dude couldn't make up his mind.

  • @PastorIblis seems like he was very tough to understand, and perhaps people are very far from this ideal, but there are many strengths of example in each of those, I think there purpose is to draw closer to the fundamentals of his philosophy. they are very graphic examples as ahould be required for effectiveness in semi-oral traditions of the era.

    To be striving for righteousness,

    wanton like a child towards God,

    to almost imbibe the idea, values & way of "the christ" seems appropriate to me.

  • @earthbirthp

    When you factor in the oral tradition part of this these stories become even more unreliable as far as accuracy.

    The game of telephone can show very clearly how in a very short period of time stories that begin with one person become completely different from how they began.

    So for anyone to be pounding a bible and saying this is exactly what was said is kidding themself.

    It is what the religious leaders that voted on these stories wanted to be there. Not Necessarily what was!

  • @PastorIblis I meant the commandments and parables, not the old jewish sub-laws being relevant :P I would actually like to hear about your interpretation of Genesis. (A nice fairy tale ?) :)

  • @earthbirthp

    I had done a video on that and I will remake it.

    There is actually two versions of that story that I will cover.

    The one is the original and it is a Sumerian tale not an Israelite one.

    It is in the Sumerian one that the symbolism is really explained.

    The Serpent is not a negative figure as every culture has stories of Serpent gods.

    It is only the israelites that make it evil.

    Additionally DNA is two snakes inner twined.

    The medical symbol is a snake around a pole.

  • @sweets3000

    I have no doubt that you will claim servant doesn't mean slave because thhe ENGLISH word dooesn't say slave but servant. 99.99999% of Christian's are ignorant as too how to take words back to the original Greek (NT) or Hebrew (OT) and thus have no real understanding of what was meant.

    The practice of treating women as property is one that is still present in some middle eastern cultures. Like the Muslim culture.

    You can get an E Sword bible free online & check what I said!

  • @PastorIblis Dude; your good. I tip my beer to ya!

  • @PastorIblis advocated ? He was saying it is better to lose that part of your body than to have the whole thing engaged in sin, unless I'm missing something...He was using a graphic example to make people understand, and be against adultery and stealing. Slavery was a thing at the time and again, was an example that people would understand. Just like the forbidden fruit of Genesis, it is understood by all, or at least it should be.

  • @earthbirthp

    Actually it had nothing to do with avoiding this Sin idea but all about a the Hell myth.

    In Mark 9:47 Jesus actually equates a physical injury (Losing an eye) to going to Heaven that way. This is equating the physical conditions a person has in life to what they would have in an afterlife.

    If this was a God then it had to be the dumbest God of all time.

    The forbidden fruit of Genesis is what enables us to have freewill.

    Without knowing Good & Evil you can't have Freewill!

  • @PastorIblis without reading the passage I know what Christ meant, as I understand it in my own life eg. if I lust after another woman the consequence of that is so disastrous for so many people that it would be better for me to lose that roving eye, than to curse my life, never mind what would wait for me in the afterlife. Christ spoke of many physical, wordly examples. As for Genesis a 4yr old or a 40yr old can understand it thanks to it's symbolism.

  • @earthbirthp

    What you are doing is what so many do and that is to try and put this story into how you think it would be rather then looking at it from the historical time period to which it was written.

    Everything about the afterlife is defined by the physical which would be completely impossible given the physical body dies. This is try and compare apples to candy bars and it is doomed to failure.

  • @PastorIblis It is the eschatology that makes it relevant

  • @earthbirthp

    The probelm with all of this is all Christians are looking at these stories from our point of view and social world view not that of how people were thinking in the first century.

    Add to that all of the so call prophecies are so vague as to be able to be applied to any timeframe. Which is why every generation since about 200 years BC people were talking about the end of the world.

    The end times stuff is nothing new it is just spin to fit our world.

  • @PastorIblis ALL of the prophecies made about the coming of Jesus were very detailed. He would be born in the city bethlehem, would go to egypt as a young child, he would show himself to his people on a donkey, he would be betrayed by a close friend for 30 pieces of silver. The 30 pieces of silver would be returned and used to buy a potters field. Thats just a few of them, but they were all fulfilled to the letter. There are many more examples of that too. /watch?v=EYvQEGSjC8o&feature=g­rec_index

  • @MnSPictures

    There is the very big possibility that Jesus never even existed but that this was a Strawman made up by religious leaders. Which if that would be true the fulfilling prophecy would be a given since they would've followed the script.

    There are multiple reasons for concluding this Jesus most likely didn't exist.

    If someone was going around today healing the sick, the blind, the lame and raising the dead would it be ONLY the churches or Christians talking about it?

  • @PastorIblis your right, it wouldnt be only the churches. here is the secular evidence: CORNELIUS TACITUS (55 - 120 A.D.) He was a roman historian that verified the biblical account of Jesus being executed by crucifixion. GAIUS SUETONIUS TRANQUILLUS (69 - 130 A.D.) He was a roman official that had the christians removed from certian areas. He recorded that the faith was started by Jesus of Nazareth. THALLUS (~ 52 A.D.) He had writings describing in detail the passover execution of Jesus.

  • @MnSPictures

    The biggest problem with your dates of these people is only the last may have been around at the time of this Jesus. However the fact that the one had refered to followers of Christ tells me fraud. Christ was not his last name and it was a name invented by Paul.

    How exactly can you claim soomeone born 30 or more years after this jesus was dead could be a witness to something which occured before they were even born?

  • @PastorIblis PLINY THE YOUNGER (63 - 113 A.D) He admits to torturing and killing those who refused to deny christ.

    Not only does secular records prove his existance but the actions of his followers shows who he was.

    The week after Jesus was crucified, his disciples fled into galilee to avoid the romans fearing for their lives. A month later though, they said that they had seen the risen christ and all of them gave their lives for him without hesitation in full confidence in their message.

  • @MnSPictures

    There are no J's in Hebrew so the name Jesus is impossible.

    Christ is a title not the name of a person. It also has direct ties to other sun gods.

    Clearly you are grasping at straws.

  • @MnSPictures

    If you think the babblings of Kent Hovind are great then clearly you have not done your own homework / research but only blindly follow the babblings of a con artist.

    Your so called witnesses are like saying you can be a witness the life of Elvis, John Lennon, or Christopher Columbus.

    If you were not born before the other was dead then Logically you are not a witness to their life.

    The lack of documents from the Time this Jesus is said to have lived is a major problem!

  • @MnSPictures

    One further note showing how stupid you are.

    The torture of those who Deny Christ makes about as much sense as saying someone tortured people you refused to deny President, or King, or Senitor, Or Mayor.

    Christ is a Title not a persons last name!

    For the Title to hold any meaning at all you would first need to establish the Person that held that title! Not simply assume the person based on the title!

    Just like the word God is a generic term not only meaning YOUR DEITY

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  • @anewdayproductions

    Exactly where did I lie?

    Your fantasies of a Jesus are just that Fantasies.

    There is ZERO evidence such a person ever actually existed!

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  • @PastorIblis I can see that your a wise thinker who thinks things in depth.you're intelligent and thank you for your effort in doing research in this.I sincerely respect that and glad that you're blessed with such intelligence.Thank you for the detailed explanation and effort on these comments.Your points are well thought and points us out from state of confusion.We gota rethink our faith and may the Holy Spirit guide us.

  • @PastorIblis I pray that the Holy Spirit opens up your mind so you too can understand the symbolic meaning God is trying to tell us. There are lots of symbolic statements in the Bible.I believe that God will give you the wisdom to understand them.Prophecies in the book of Revelations are coming true.Do you see that brother? Obviously we wont be seeing real dragons or beast right?So perhaps cutting your limbs or taking your eye out does not mean literally?Bless you brother :)

  • @samuelleong

    If you actually research what this Holy Spirit really was what you'd realize is it is the sacred Femine. Judism, Islam & Christianity all have a Goddess figure.

    It was the male dominant leaders that have tried to surpress the Female aspect!

    Father, Mother, Child is a trinity we can all picture.

    Father, Son, Ghost is something we can't because what the fuck is a Ghost!

    YOU PEOPLE ARE BEING LIED TO AND YOU JUST DO NOT CARE TO KNOW THE TRUTH!

    TRUTH YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

  • @PastorIblis its also called the holy spirit, and whether or not it is a ghost or a spirit it is the spirit of the living god. It is something you can't see in the natural realm just like GOD or angels. It exists in the unseen realm which is actually reality. This life is temporary the unseen realm where God lives is reality. It takes faith to believe in something you can't see in the natural realm. Truth holds up against every single argument ask GOd what truth is and go searching for it.

  • @24angelmama

    The holy spirit is BULLSHIT!

    If you actually look at the writtings that holy spirit is the FEMALE or Goddess or MOTHER!

    There is a female counterpart in all 3 desert religions.

    Judaism, Christianity & Islam!

    But in all 3 male dominant religions they try very hard to totally wipe out the FEMALE!

    A Trinity we can understand is FATHER MOTHER CHILD

    Not FATHER SPOOKY SON

    But Christians are to lazy to read / study their own bible!

  • @PastorIblis The Bible never says that the holy spirit is female at all, you sir are an ignorant troll.

  • @nutcase4freedom

    You are a stupid sheep.

    Look up the word GROVE!

    The first occurance in Genesis 21:33 is the hebrew word ay'-shel and means a tree. HOWEVER of the 17 occurances this is the only one with that meaning!

    All 16 of the other occurances is ash-ay-raw' and means Asherah Which was the Female Goddess / WIFE of EL in the Canninite Pantheon!

    YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON THAT DOESN'T KNOW YOUR OWN RELIGIONS HISTORY!

  • @PastorIblis I don't believe in religion, that is where you fail.

  • @nutcase4freedom

    You are an ignorant brainwashed child.

    I have been researching and studying this shit longer then you've been breathing.

    You do not know the first thing about the ritual abuse that is behind your GOD and Jesus notion!

    If you want to decieve someon you do not go in foaming at the mouth and raving.

    YOU GO IN AS THEIR SAVIOR!

    Anyone that knows shit about how cults and con artists opperate knows that!

  • @PastorIblis How far will someone go to suppress the truth in unrighteousness. As romans 1 says. It will be sad when you stand in front of God and you are judged according to your works, without Jesus having paid for your sins, you will pay for them in eternity and will be cast, whether you complain or not, to hell, and your knee WILL bow to Jesus. It's not too late now tho. This life's filthy pleasures are not worth an eternity in hell.

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Think about what you are advocating.

    For a "God" to behave in such a manner is like Hitler saying the Jews didn't have the Thoughts he wanted so them going in the gas ovens was good and righteous.

    If such a claim would be tried you would find that revolting to even suggest.

    Yet you assert that very same type logic with your God and you Praise that behavior?

    With more power come MORE responcibility NOT LESS!

    If your God exists it should behave BETTER THEN US NOT WORSE!

  • @PastorIblis well sir,your argument is seriously flawed. Hitler was a man, with flaws and did not have the right to kill based on intent of the heart, much less based on thought. God, however, is perfect, and perfectly good, so when God says something is evil, it is evil. So you comparing Hitler judging, with God judging is totally flawed and illogical because it assumes A LOT. God is better, and just, and those who commit evil will be judged accordingly. that simple. UNLESS you believe in JEsus

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Upon what basis do you claim this God is PERFECT?

    What commiting Genocide twice?

    Killing over 2.4 Million?

    Commanding if a women that isn't married is Raped that she must marry her rapest?

    Using threats of violence / torture is not giving someone a choice but rather attempting to MANIPULATE people throught INTIMIDATION!

    It is actually no different then the earily Christin knights riding into a town and putting a sword to someone's throat and saying CONVERT OR DIE!

  • @PastorIblis God, the creator of the universe. created you, and you have NO RIGHT to judge God. He could crush you and send you to hell with a thought. If you really claim to have better morality than a being that created, (unlike your parents did) and that created the universe, then ur just delusional. 2nd, God used Israel and war in the OT as judgment upon evil nations. Not as coercion, but as judgment, same way God will judge you when you die.

  • @Refutingnonsense

    First of all At NO TIME in your bible does your Lord God claim to have created the Universe!

    The claims are to being the God which lead them OUT OF EGYPT! This is NOT creating the Universe!

    Show BOOK, CHAPTER & VERSE which states this God made the Universe!

    Secondly the God of the Israelites is a combination of Two Cannianite Deities.

    EL & Yawhew!

    Those deities were part of an EARILER CULTURE!

    Additionally the oldest Culture is the SUMERIANS not ISRAELITES!

  • @PastorIblis "Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

    Heaven refers not to paradise or to the heaven where we will go since in the context the bible is clearly speaking about everything thats not the earth, which would be the void universe since there were no stars etc. What a lame argument seriously. Im wasting my time with you man. God have mercy on your soul. Later.

  • @PastorIblis the rape issue you talk about, is not clearly defined as rape by the hebrew words used. They could also mean "lie with" or "seize". In any case, it doesn't speak about the degree of violence with which the woman is taken, and regardless of that, back then virginity was very valued, (unlike now). One instance of rape in the OT is when Amnon rapes Tamar, and she seems to want to marry Amnon. The law is protecting women from being raped and being left unwanted by anyone and alone.

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Actually it is very clear.

    Deuteronomy 22:25 - 29 shows the only difference being is the woman Betrothed or NOT!

    The idea that this is not rape is clearly Christian's wanting to Cherry Pick their bible.

    This is also listed in the 613 Laws of the old Testament!

    302.That one who has raped a damsel and has then (in accordance with the law) married her, may not divorce her (Deut. 22:29)

    THAT IS FROM A CHRISTIAN WEBSITE!

    bibleheadquarters 613 Old Testament Laws

  • @PastorIblis Clearly you need to control the demons within yourself, and read slower. Since I didn't claim this wasn't rape, i questioned whether this is talking exclusively about rape, and i suggested that the DEGREE of violence in the rape is not stated either. So don't keep building strawmen and punching them down. You are clearly at this point making a buffoon out of yourself. I explained the historical and cultural context already, if you can't get it then perhaps you're not that bright.

  • @Refutingnonsense

    you stated it is Not CLEARLY DEFINED AS RAPE!

    What you mean is THE FUCKING WORD RAPE IS NOT THERE!

    You want to EXCUSE AND IGNORE what doesn't fit YOUR AGENDA!

    SHOW BOOK CHAPTER AND VERSE WHICH STATES YOUR GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE!

  • @Refutingnonsense

    It was your dead Jew Zombie Jesus that said a Good Tree CANNOT produce evil fruit and an Evil Tree CANNOT produce good fruit.

    So exactly what kind of Fruit is threats of torture?

    Is that GOOD Fruit?

    Is that how CHRISTIANS feel they should act?

    After all if your God is PERFECT and it engages in this type behavior YOU WILL TO!

    A child will behave in ways they see demonstraighted by their parent!

    Your fucking bible does call this God a Father so that comparason is valid!

  • @PastorIblis threats of torture? God is exercising punishment. Is the government evil for having laws that condemn criminals to life in prison? No, its exercising justice. Either your brain is dead or you have some serious issue pal. We cannot go killing people because we are not the executioners. God is. And he commanded us not to kill and not to punish people. We can tell them that what they're doing is wrong and warn them of the punishment. But God will do justice.

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Laws are much different then TORTURE!

    Were the GAS OVENS OF HITLER PUNISHMENTS?

    Is Guatinamo Bay a place of PUNISHMENT?

    Is that GOOD AND RIGHTEOUS?

    Your God Commanded people KILL!

    After commanding they do not KILL!

    SO WHICH IS IT?

  • @PastorIblis your lack of logic and discernment is so typical of what happens when God gives a man over to a depraved mind. God being perfect and Holy can punish beyond the limits of perishable bodies. God punishes for sins against and INFINITE being and INFINITELY HOly and good. So you have hell. 2nd. God commanded individuals not to kill based on their own judgment and opinion. Then God commanded the Israelites as a nation to exterminate evil nations AS JUDGMENT upon those nations. Its clear

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Well the Hell concept (Lake of Fire) is EGYPTIAN NOT ISRAELITE!

    Egyptian Book of the Dead Spell 126!

    That means it is NOT ORIGINAL TO YOUR GOD!

    Upon what basis of EVIDENCE do you support these claims?

    What facts exist to prove the existence of any God?

    Considering the Hell concept was originally an Egyptian story IF a God would exist then Logically it would be EGYPTIAN not ISRAELITE!

    Add to that Jeremiah 32:35 your Lord God got PISSED at ppl burning children in fire!

  • @PastorIblis These claims are so bogus you could never hold them in a public debate. That christianity borrows from egyptian, etc, myths doesn't surprise anyone, Zeitgeist has clearly fried your brain. The amount of misconceptions that you bring up to the table are way too many for me to waste my time addressing and attempting to carefully analyze in context when clearly you don't care what response I give. Your hatred towards God will be addressed by God himself in due time. Bye!

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Run away little coward RUN!

    YOU GOT SCHOOLED ON THE HEAVEN WORD!

    SINCE YOU ARE TO STUPID TO LOOK THAT WORD UP IN THE HEBREW!

    DUMBASS!

    YOU WORSHIP ALIENS!

    LMAO!

  • @PastorIblis  HEAVENS in Hebrew: שׁמה שׁמים

    shâmayim shâmeh

    shaw-mah'-yim, shaw-meh'

    The second form being dual of an unused singular; from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, AS WELL AS TO THE HIGHER ETHER WHERE THE CELESTIAL BODIES REVOLVE): - air, X astrologer, heaven (-s).

  • @PastorIblis "The sky is the part of the atmosphere or of outer space visible from the surface of any astronomical object. It is difficult to define precisely for several reasons. During daylight, the sky of Earth has the appearance of a deep blue surface because of the air's scattering of sunlight." You should not be calling others "retards". Do you actually consider yourself a good person? are you married? can anyone stand you? is your family broken? it would explain a lot, you sound miserable

  • @Refutingnonsense

    The Sky is NOT part of outer space you MORON!

    There is NO indication the word Heaven means an area Outside of our attmosphere.

    I am still waiting for that video of you COOKING WITH SHIT!

    You claimed it was out of Context and you think COOKING WITH SHIT is the correct contexztg SO COOK YOUR DINNER WITH SHIT!

    I want to see the video!

    DON'T BACK OUT ON IT THAT IS THE CONTEXT YOU CLAIM IS GOOD AND RIGHTEOUS!

    SO DO IT!

  • @PastorIblis and its funny how you casually ignored when I SCHOOLED YOU with Ezekiel 4. And you call me a "dumbass" ? You thought that God was telling them to eat it, then you change to say that it was cooking with it. So do you really think people are not gonna realize how stupid you were and how biased? Are you gonna pretend like you didnt get schooled with the hebrew for "heaven(s)" now? I wish i could point you to a store that sells humility and decency.

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Then COOK YOUR DINNER WITH SHIT!

    Make a video on it I WANT TO SEE YOU EAT YOUR FOOD COOKED WITH SHIT!

    Since you claim that is the Context you schooled me on.

    You haven't schooled me until YOU COOK WITH SHIT AND EAT IT!

    THEN YOU HAVE SHOWN ME YOU ARE REALLY A STUPID CHRISTIAN FUNDIMENTALIST!

    I am waiting to see you eat your food COOKED WITH SHIT!

    Come on fucker DO IT!

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Where is that video of you Cooking with SHIT!

    You claim that is the correct CONTEXT so you should be willing to COOK WITH SHIT since that is what your God commanded!

    I really want to see you Cooking With Shit!

    Perhaps your video of that could go on a Christian Cooking Channel!

    LMAO!

  • @Refutingnonsense

    Jeremiah 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

    IF BURNING CHILDREN IN FIRE WAS A SIN AND SOMETHING YOUR GOD WAS OPPOSED TO WHY WOULD HE TURN AROUND AND DO IT?

  • @PastorIblis And your analogy about a Father and a child. An because God commands Israel to kill evil nations we should go as well killing people? what a joke. Anyone with 2 neurons understands that God's command to the Israelites is way different than a random Christian taking upon himself the role of judge and executioner. and Jesus did behave in ways demonstrated by God, His Father, because they are both of divine nature. Us christians are not perfect, neither is our discernment. Study more.

  • @PastorIblis REALLY???? Im Pretty sure the Bible, Quran, The Jewish Old Testament, The Dead Sea Scrolls all mention Jesus.

    Wow, you're not smart.

  • @opios80

    Given there are no J's in hebrew it is impossible for them to mention Jesus!

    Add to that you are talking fairy tales from cultures that were directly connected and share many of the same stories.

  • @PastorIblis WRONG AGAIN!! LOL!!!! The Old Testament mentions the coming Messiah Savior of mankind many times. This is how the jewish people at the time who believed Jesus knew it was him. Nice try!!!! LOL!!! May the Lord Jesus Christ if Nazareth Rebuke you, you filthy sinning liar!!!

  • @opios80 I don't know the context of what you wrote but just a reminder that as Christians we are known for our unconditional love.......God bless.

  • @allforjesuschrist1

    LMAO now that is a joke,

    History shows Christians to be intollerant and torturing those who do not THINK as you do!

    Hell just look at how Christians in our modern world treat homosexuals.

    They use their bble too push HATE and INTOLERANCE and even MURDER!

    Christians brutally killed Matthew Shepard all because he was Gay!

    HE DID NOTHING TO HARM ANY OF YOU FUCKERS BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP CHRISTIANS LIKE OPIOS FROM COMMITING MURDER!

  • @PastorIblis You are arguing with Gods Word, NOT Mans about Homosexuality being wrong. You are playing with fire. If GOD, the creator says it is a disgrace that man pervert his natural creation of a man and woman with a man and man, then that is truth!! Not your irrelevant opinion. May GOD rebuke your blindness.

  • @opios80

    Homosexuality is observed in over 1500 SPECIES on this planet.

    Human's are just ONE more species which has this behavior in some of the population.

    THERE IS NO GOD!

    YOU ARE IGNORANT!

  • @opios80

    LMAO oh how the fundies are rattled.

    LMAO

    Not only are those accounts extremely Vauge and not giving the correct Name Specificly but there are details on those so called Prophecies which did not occur!

    One prime Exampe is Daniel 9:25 - 26 the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah (Jerusalem was not needing rebuilt with Jesus)

    prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood.

  • @opios80

    There was NO FLOOD when JESUS was here!

    So clearly based on Daniel HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH!

  • @PastorIblis Who said there was a flood when Jesus was here? How can you discern the Bible when you cant even understand the simple sentences that i, a mere man write? May the Lord Rebuke you.

  • @opios80

    Clearly you are IGNORANT of the soo called Prophecies about this Messiah in the Old Testament!

    Daniel 9:26 That is talking about what will occur when the Messiah shows up.

    Given this Messiah had not shown up once it is not logical to assume that this was refering not to the first appeariance but the second.

    WHY WOULDN'T THE WRITTER OF DANIEL STATE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST ARRIVAL BUT THE SECOND?

  • @PastorIblis I think you are missing the point. YOu are totally correct about there being no J in Hebrew. The J came about through many translations of the bible his name in Hebrew is yeshua meaning "salvation" or "he will save" christ means "the annointed" one. The meaning defines him not just his name in english. and the old testament talks about him in Isaiah, in Leviticus, in proverbs, in Jeremiah... he is all over the old testament actually all the way from genesis chapter 3.

  • @24angelmama

    Wrong Jesus or Yeshua is not mentioned Specificly in any of them!

    The so called Prophecies are extremely VAGUE as to who this one would be!

    There are also details which don't occur that were predicted

  • @24angelmama WRONG, oh boy, we have a seven day adventist cult member here now folks.

  • @opios80 excuse me? how am I a seventh day adventist?

  • @earthbirthp

    I could also ask so does this mean you picked out an eye so as to not be attracted to women? If you did well I am sorry to hear that.

    After all the more logical and rational option would be to develop more self control / discipline not self mutulation.

    But I guess self control / discipline doesn't sound as good as the Saw approach.

  • So I guess this was supposed to help me read a Bible or something. I would have, but I was too busy listening to Slayer.

  • Very good documentary!

  • Had to stop it at 3:42. (Ref Psalm 101:3) Too many brethren seem to go out of their way to gaze upon such wicked little titillations "to admonish and warn about" them as this series obviously does.

  • @Occupy4now...How is it that soooooo many Christians have not been taught how to read the bible...my goodness...The verse is not saying not to make yourself aware of the enemy's plans. It is stating the change of heart (reborn/new creation) that all real christians experience. To now hate the things that you once loved and love the God that you once hated....

  • @Occupy4now I agree, myself, I think this music is great and I love rock and roll but I think people often do and watch these things because they can get exposed to it (they are condeming it, and keeping aware) but they are actually vicariously enjoying it, and are interested in it.

  • "the perspective of truth as defined by the bible and Jesus Christ" The *whole* documentary will be based on a book which has uncertain origins. How can you be so sure that this book is accurate? How do you know that it came from a god?

  • @s3tione Watch 'The Case For Christ' here on YT

  • @prodigalson56 I just watched that documentary, and while it was very well produced, it wasn't at all convincing. Scholars who study the bible from a critical-historical approach do not consider the bible a good source of evidence regarding the Christian claims of Jesus. Of all the experts, only two were actual university professors, and neither of them were historians. The rest were bible scholars out of divinity schools and seminaries, hardly the breeding grounds of critical thought.

  • i just went down my hall way into my daughter's room.......... sorry but there wasn't a fire. maybe later. i'll keep you posted.

  • Censoring boo boo bad basstard boo censoring boo

  • I love watching this it hilarious

  • Fuck YEah!!!!!! I love these things. The first one was to 80's based and although i did like his mullet, the references were mainly on music i never cared for.

  • I love the Hells Bells series. Very entertaining. The recent series is much less even-handed than its predecessor, but still, extreme entertainment value.

  • I grew up with this oppression and I will allow my son to make up his mind for himself. It is not ab out the bible...its about oppression!!!!!

  • That's right! Don't try to teach your son anything. Just let him drift along making up his own mind about everything. You can always visit him in prison.

  • You automatically assume that because I will let my son listen to whatever he wants that he will be in jail. That is exactly whats wrong with these idiots that want to sensor music (holier than thou church nuts.) They give people no chance to make their own decisions. A lot of people listen to rock and they aren't all in jail. If that's the way you feel about it then you are passing judgment onto someone else based on a simple decision like what kind of music to listen to. See u in hell!

  • Also, you clearly didn't even watch this before passing your own judgment. It was explicitly stated that the idea is NOT to censor music. I do apologize for the un-necessarily harsh tone of my original comment. I was trying to use sarcasm to make a point about a parent's responsibility to guide their child's choices rather than just sit back and watch them try and figure things out on their own.

  • They say its not about censoring, just about scaring parents into censoring instead. I grew up with it. It didn't work. Because I was told no to all secular music, I sought it out. I bought tapes I probably never would have bought just because I was told I couldn't listen to the radio or tapes and CD's. It is natural for a child to rebel, when you strictly say NO, its like gasoline on the fires of rebellion.

    Would you have apologized had I not called you out about being judgmental BTW?

  • I didn't apologize for being judgmental. I apologized for my vituperate tone. I also had my music restricted as a child. I also rebelled. That's also totally irrelevant. Just because childreb tend to rebell doesn't mean we shouldn't restrict them in any way. As a father there are certain influences that I will do my best to keep my children away from. What I will do differently than my parents is try and teach my kids how to think rather than what to think. I believe my world-view..continued...

  • is a reasonable and rationally defensible one. Therefore I have no problem allowing my children to voice a dissenting opinion on anything (such as music, politics, religion etc..). However, they must be able to defend their position rationally or I will give it zero creedence. That being said; it is my house, and while they are free to disagree they are never free to disobey.

  • Oh okay. So you are judgmental then. What you originally said was EXTREMELY judgmental. To assume that my child will be in prison come on, seriously?

    This is about forbidding music right... my whole point is that if you take it all away (music but it also applies to other things as well) , it makes it worse. I was talking about music. Apparently you are just on a crusade or something. You win... you are the greatest dad ever and you should right a book or something. I am completely ...

  • wrong for allowing my child to have his own opinion and for allowing him to try to use his own better judgment when it comes to frivolous things like music.

    So if they listen to the "devil music" because they like the way it sounds... is that an irrational standpoint? Music is meant for entertainment. Not necessarily the pulpit for Satan and all the bad things in this world.

    What are/were your household rules on music ? I, apparently, need some guidance.

  • Are you judging me for being judgmental? What I apologized for was using your child as ammunition for my original sarcastic dig. I am judgmental about certain things. So are you, apparently. And so is everyone else. You are correct that simply taking things away is counter-productive. It just so happens that I haven't really had to take a lot of things from my kids. I will if it becomes needed, but like I said before; it's about teaching them right from wrong. Then I CAN let them make decisions.

  • What you don't seem to want to admit is that all the stimuli we take in as entertainment has some kind of world view attatched to it. Music, as was well documented in this case, and is well known anyway, is extemely powerful as a medium. There is really nothing like music in terms of being able to drive your message home. Why do you think corporations spend so much money on music in their advertising? It works. I know it. You know it. Merchants know it. And so does Satan.

  • Oh cool hells bells 2

    one of 40 woooooooh

    took me 5 days to finish hells bells one

  • sequel !!!!!!!!!!. Is there a part three. we deffinately need a trilogy on this shit. Satanisim in todays hip hop crap. And show some country music too, lot's of drinkin and sex songs there. yeeehaw!

  • God i love metal.....this video and its absurdity makes me love it even more....IM a buddhist and these "christians" are sooooo judfemental and intolerant of other religions

  • Oh no. Not a human being making a moral judgment. What ever shall we do? Oh, wait, you just made a judgment about Christians. I guess you don't have to be consistent when you're one of the enlightened, tolerant ones.

  • Great video. It's not popular enough

  • It's interesting how the topic of "evolution" has become prominent here even though the video topic is "music".

    Also, I've noticed a pattern: those who support the theory of evolution seem to resort mostly to ad hominem attacks - name-calling, mocking, etc. - rather than substantive argumentation. Guys, you're NOT serving well your own position when you do this. It serves only to discredit your position by making it look like you don't HAVE substative arguments. Think about it!

  • give em a break guys, the mullet's at least gone ;)