Kansas City Air Show Crash: Pilot Killed, Rescuers Relax

[DJSupraKidd]

Wow. What is with the emergency crew? They should seriously all be fired. Rest in peace. May you fly again with golden wings in heaven.

[Facewest]

That is a great kid. Good hearted. He said "take me home" Great kid he has feelings.

[billt460]

Response time was pathetic. It was over two and a half minutes before any fire retardant was pumped on to that airplane. This is at an airshow with a high performance aerobatic routine underway. Someone needs to lose their job.

[johnello]

r.i.p:(

[DCOLLINS21]

It happended so fast, I believe the flight controls failed he couldnt pull out of the dive he tried but didnt have anymore altitude.Thats reality at its fullest

[DCOLLINS21]

shame shame on the emergency personnel for not being set for a actual plane crash like C'mon it actually happened they should have been there wen the red P.T. Cruiser got to him

[cheezenipsOG]

funfact: there were 5 fatal car crashes in the kc metro area and recieved less than 50 seconds of film on kctv 5.... this recieved 5 munites of footage and interviews.....

but im not a dick and would say its wrong but stuff like this happens to the best of us and we just gotta move along... yeah it sucks the guy died but he died doing what he loved and thats the way he would have wanted to go...

RIP BRYAN

[Ineedhelp2811]

Start of the final maneuver 3:49 crash at 3:59

[jet2002jet2002]

R.I.P BRYAN, YOU DIED DOING WHAT YOU LOVED TOO DO!!!!!

[bitchesH8me]

lol @ "thats some amazing fucking flying right there:

[copmagnetcom]

@bitchesH8me It was a stutter ... I swear!

[TheMILVET]

The gravity of the event is magnified by the very upset child @ 4:31. RIP Bryan Jensen.

[rockhound694u]

@TheMILVET ITS ALWAYS GRAVITY'S FAULT.

[davidgrahamscott]

@TheMILVET good comment!

[FeelinGipper]

My dad was friends with the man who crashed this biplane, they grew up together in Prior Lake, Minnesota....

[possum440]

Slow response time for the rescue units regardless. The pilot is a hero too. From what i could tell, the video being bad and sound worse, after the maneuver the engine either quit or he reduced throttle to give himself more room, seeing he was oriented toward the crowd in his initial pullout he kicked it hard right applied throttle and went in away from the crowd as he tried to pull out a second time but ran out of altitude. He might have made the first pullout, he didnt take the chance.

[gunter099]

i guess theres an airplane in the video, like watching a golf game, the guy hits the ball then theres 2 minutes of blue sky

[OneSecure]

First responder was a guy in a red Mazda... not prepared

[gmcjetpilot]

It must have been flight control issue or possible pilot incapacitated..... He was doing some kind of Lomcevak (or tumble) maneuver and normally should have had time to affect a recovery at that altitude, but it looked like his rudder or aileron was stuck and he spun in.

[highvoltagefeathers]

@gmcjetpilot I was there, it was absolutely gutwrenching to watch, I'd never seen anyone die before. It did seem as if he was unable to make corrective maneuvers properly. He might have fainted, but the way the roll changes direction in the dive leads me to think that he was doing his best, but had an elevator control stuck. That plane was under alot of stress throughout his routine. RIP, he died in his favorite plane doing what he loved.

[copmagnetcom]

@gmcjetpilot I saw another video that seemed to reflect that he had an engine stall on the way down. What we can say for sure is that he was a very skilled pilot, with a great passion for flying. As I have read about the man, I am touched by his enthusiasm for flight, and his inspired skills.

[gmcjetpilot]

@copmagnetcom

That is a nice tribute, well said. However losing engine power would not necessarily cause this. I am a 13,000 hour airline pilot and did sportsman competitive aerobatics. There is still "airshow smoke", which uses heat from engine, showing right before impact. It could be the engine was still hot enough for smoke, but in general no engine power no airshow smoke. Also from the audio there is engine sound, I think. Regardless tragic and thoughts a prayers to his family and friends.

[cshoo711]

@copmagnetcom If you are referring to when the engine went quiet during the "spiral", it is unlikely that the engine stalled. My aerobatic buddies and I agree that following the lomcevak, Bryan somehow entered into an inverted spin. To recover, the pilot MUST put the engine at idle (which sounds like a stall), neutralize the controls, and "kick" the rudder opposite the direction of the spin. I do spins regularly and they don't always go as planned. Let the NTSB figure out the how and why.

[copmagnetcom]

@cshoo711 I am certainly not one to say what went wrong at all. I suspect that at some point NTSB will know much better than any of us. I hope that their investigation will help make another pilot safer in the future.

[cshoo711]

@copmagnetcom Thank you for your enthusiasm for flight and to not bad mouth the pilots like I have seen before. We have lost a great pilot and I am saddened that I hadn't had the chance to talk to him.

[copmagnetcom]

@cshoo711 I cannot imagine badmouthing him at all. He was very skilled, and an amazing artist in the sky. It was a truly amazing show, and I wish it had ended differently. I guess some would say he was showing off, but that is what he was supposed to do. I don't imagine that he did anything reckless or more dangerous than what the job normally calls for.

[mr3856a]

@copmagnetcom What difference would an engine stall have made? He still could have recovered if the engine had been off.

[copmagnetcom]

@mr3856a Are you really asking me this, or telling me? I race cars and you'd be safe with me there, but you probably would not want me flying you around. I am not a pilot. I only pretend to be when playing with my kids. It is just the sound I noticed, but not that I know it to be good or bad.

[thevillian88]

If you're going to criticize a crash response, then criticize the response to the Fairchild AFB B-52 crash. You can literally count the MINUTES that they sat around and did nothing. There's even a video taken FROM the firehouse that's posted on youtube of that incident. It took the fire trucks like 40 seconds to reach the plane in your video...I wouldn't exactly say the the rescuers were "Relaxing". Maybe if I was lying, but thankfully I'm NOT you (Or any of the other idiots complaining)

[copmagnetcom]

@thevillian88 What video are you talking about here? It was well over two minutes before a fire truck arrived on scene at this crash. Maybe you should re-watch this before you estimate something so absurd as 40 seconds. That was not a fire truck ... it was an economy car, followed by an SUV, and then an ATV, a pickup ... and then eventually ... when they finished their funnel cakes ... they sent a fire truck. A full screen view may help your assessment.

[copmagnetcom]

@thevillian88 In this video, the first fire truck enters the video over a minute twenty seconds after the first vehicle (and three successive vehicles) arrived. Isn't fire response supposed to be one of the first? As many other comments, here, and on the referenced blog, as well as many other networks reflect, this would not be acceptable at a concert, race track, or elsewhere ... and certainly not at an airport during an air show.

[MrsSeekerTruth]

@copmagnetcom

This was a high impact crash - no survivors. Because the air show was doing all kinds of stunts with explosives the air field was filled with "land mines"? Our first responders are heros just for being out in the "dangerous elements" all the time. It could have been worse, many others could have been affected.

[shaqthatwontbitebac]

@raindog1974 You're ignorant. Although the chances are slim, every aviation accident must me treated with a delicate touch.... I understand where you are coming from but in my experience with ultra light aircraft, people have survived. including my father... so yes people have survived in similar situations with medical aid. and if not... bring an ambulance so the kids don't think what you apparently know. And calm your shit, its a video of a man being concerned for another life.... Jesus fuck.

[copmagnetcom]

@shaqthatwontbitebac Well said, and I appreciate you. It seems that the reaction to maintain hope is one that more commenters claiming to be EMT should embrace and take to work with them. In any aviation incident, the timing of response teams is critical, if only to preserve as much evidence as possible. Plus, as you noted, doing nothing is a lot harder on the onlookers. Especially any who may ever come back to an air show or fly into that airport.

[MrGreat50cal]

RIP bryan Jensen, Awesome flying up there

[sacpilot]

at 0:58 you can hear a guy say "I thought he was gonna crash"

[trent2395]

yea did it take them long enough to get over there!

[imtheone3205]

never in kansas have i saw a crash before i aint never going to an airshow again i will just stay home next years show

[thevillian88]

@imtheone3205 This was in Kansas?

[copmagnetcom]

@913Adam With all such instances, regardless of futility, there is a requirement to "preserve evidence" in order to prevent future loss of life.

[munsterdog6969]

I second what 913Adam said. The 1st people on scene had communication with everyone else and would have seen the obvious fatality. Very sad but I'm sure the pilot knew his risk and died doing what he loved doing. His flights were a work of art. God bless him and his family.

[OldLadyUU]

I've seen a plane like this one at an airshow where i live and was nervous watching it, because I thought it would crash.

[mhaskins69]

I agree that the emergency response wasn't as fast as it should have been but I don't think it mattered in this case. Thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

[slm0796]

I walk into the video at 8:24 was truly a terrible thing to see. For both the family and the spectators. This video was shot right next to where I was on duty for security.

[jesseadkins187]

if he didnt die from impact he sure as hell burnt to death omfg where did that fire truck come from the fire station?!??

[1hawkeye79]

First let me say my thoughts and prayers are with the family of pilot. Second, I fully agree with what the person filming said. I am a pilot and a medic. That response time, especially for an airport during an airshow was horrible. It was more than two minutes before the first engine was even out there, let alone the ambulance. Although the crash did not appear to be survivable, that still should not matter. Miracles happen every day and you never know when another minute could have mattered.

[copmagnetcom]

As I resign from this topic for a moment to rest, I am convinced that there is a good cause to rethink the staff of this airport emergency response team, and to better screen individuals before putting them to work in any hazardous event. These emergency workers simply did a horrible job. In this instance, it was not a job to preserve immediate life, but to preserve information which could preserve life in the future. My response was human ... emergency crew's response was perhaps otherwise.

[Chrysler53ny]

Glad this isn't a video from one of the vultures who only turned the camera on after the crash. Response time was slow but lets keep this respectful this video captures the last minutes of a mans life. RIP

[copmagnetcom]

@Chrysler53ny I agree, and we surely all know by now that the crew response would not have saved his life. Perhaps it may have preserved another down the road, but the man who died today was a great pilot and deserves the dignity of a kind remembrance for that. I certainly did not want this to be his last flight, nor do I believe any of us did. I thought it could have been handled better, and I also know that none of us can predict what we will feel in moments following this kind of tragedy.

[chubsmagoo]

@roydesoto what if it was a different sort of accident and there was a fire and the pilot was still alive but with broken legs in a burning airplane? If I was an aerobatic pilot I would stay away from this airshow. My local airshow has the firefighters dressed with pants and boots on with the top half waiting to be put on in a matter of seconds. Also the trucks are ready to go. Thank God the pilot was killed instantly, instead of burning to death because of your awful response time.

[33bpfd]

Oh and by the way your suppose to shelter yourself from the fire not sacrifice your self to it. We all get burned at times and more times than not we didn't follow our training like we are suppose to when it happens. I have plenty of scars where my turnout leg rolled up while interior but I'm not disabled it's about being smart. 30 year carreer not a 30 year patient in a con home because I was stupid. Again I say good luck with your reckless out look someone if not your self is going to get hurt

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd It is interesting that you say this ... perhaps you should look at the ones who did arrive on the scene, while the ones who did not arrive finished their funnel cakes.

[copmagnetcom]

It is amazing how many people claim to be rescue workers in these comments, but yet, it looks pretty funny to anybody who has actually worked a scene or responded to an incident. It is pathetic to see such defense of poor crew response, but then, if you read all the comments you may get a better sense of things beyond the first year EMT attitude.

[chubsmagoo]

You should have walked away and diverted your kids attention when the child started saying take me home instead of raving about the crash. Why dont you think about your kids instead of rambling on and on about the poor response team. I have witnessed 3 fatal accidents in my times going to airshows and now I have a 14 month old son and when he is old enough to go with I know exactly what I'm going to do if something like this happens. Divert his attention so he doesn't have to see something bad.

[copmagnetcom]

@chubsmagoo My wife did just that. This is yet another reason we have a two parent family. I have worked with safety crews and also worked on the benefactor side of event safety as a driver. I was also holding a camera as I hugged my son and and knew what it would mean for somebody to point out any potential shortcomings if his father died track-side and nobody could say why because they let all the evidence burn to ashes.

[chubsmagoo]

@chubsmagoo Good on your wife for doing what she did. Unfortunately things like this happen in the airshow business, anytime you strap on an airplane and do this type of flying you are putting it all on the line. I totally agree with you on the absolute horrid response time of the rescue crews.

[chubsmagoo]

What if there had been an incident where the pilot had lived but was trapped inside the burning aircraft? In this case the fire dept would have allowed him to be burned alive. Absolutely horrible response time and the airshow coordinators and airport fire and rescue should be sickened by their absolutely poor response time.

[copmagnetcom]

@roydesoto I watch crews manned all day for special events all the time. Apparently this is not the case for air shows, and I sure hope you never come to a race to work! I never crashed. I never needed the emergency crews. Friends have needed them, and they were there. This crew didn't do their jobs well. it would not have saved that pilot, but the lost evidence may have saved another.

[33bpfd]

I guarantee you that no one will lose there job over this industry wide which I am a part of it is totally within standard practice to have a response like that. If you don't like it call your congressmen you'll get some where with that or take some courses and become a firefighter your self move up the ranks become a training officer and teach them the way you want it done. It's all about getting it done. I wish you luck and I am sorry your child had to witness that. I like airshows myself

[ExtreamThrills]

crash is at 3:50 if you want to skip to it. RIP dude, also that fire dept sucks

[33bpfd]

Ok we as rescue personell will sit out in the air field so we can have a

Shorter response time. Oh wait the plane just took out the rescue crew want to see how long the next response time is. It's like terrorist bombings the secondary bombs are meant for us because the next round of rescuers are

Even farther out creating more casualties

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd OK, now you clearly are a joke. Were you actually one of those people who dropped the ball, because your comments are pretty clearly slanted as a new EMT who just got fired.

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd I don;t think you have spent any time on an emergency scene, or you would not have such gutless statements. Hero? Certainly that is something you don't have in your future as long as you try to shelter yourself from the danger of a fire. There was one bird in the air ... it was an air show ... crews were on hand ... they finished their funnel cakes.

[33bpfd]

Instead of

Watching a human burn grab some water and cool the burns down. That's the problem. People watch and don't do

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd I do!

[copmagnetcom]

When you watch a car burst into flames, it is easy to say "grab some water", right? If you have a fire truck on-scene only seconds away ... then, you are the real jackass for not bringing that burn relief. In this case, the fire trucks were manned and standing by, but they did not roll until long after other vehicles were already at the scene. This one is a hard one to dismiss any better than saying they were finishing their funnel cake before they rolled.

[33bpfd]

@roydesoto cool call name by the way. 2 minutes 7 seconds is an excellent response time with water on the plane. Not even close to a bad response. If anyone thinks they can do better I told you sign up and do it don't stand on the side lines. It's like when we go to kids football games and a kids hurt. The crowd shout why don't you run? Because we don't run if we trip and fall we now have 2 injured parties to deal with and that takes up more time and resources. Again if I'm not moving quick eno

[copmagnetcom]

@roydesoto Perhaps you should look again. I am one of those who understand your defensive frustration. It sucks. I am also one of those, similar to this pilot, who understand the value of emergency workers. This was horrid response at a race track, where I perform. I may even be one of the few drivers who bring them gifts and remember to thank them in advance. When a car is there in 20 seconds, but a fire truck is there a couple minutes later, the loss of evidence kills future pilots, too!

[33bpfd]

I guarantee that if crews are suites up constantly that they have multiple

Crews to switch out every 20 minutes. That's what they do in house fires that's what they do in there hazmat suits. It goes back to budget constraints private business racing big money hell to pay small business public event no one wants to step up and pay the extra money or volunteer there time. Statistically your more

Likely to have crashes at race courses than at air shows. That's a fact

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd Are you actually just looking for work as a kid in your mom's basement, or did you already get the job as a kid in your mom's basement? Budget constraints? You clearly don't know much about what an insurance underwriter examines in post-mortem, because the underwriters surely will look at this very poorly when people arrive on scene with an economy car more than two minutes before the guys with an airport fire truck. Rub a lamp and keep wishing that there is no rot in this barrel.

[copmagnetcom]

@theworkerful I thik you probably know by now that what you have said was absurd. I spend a lot of time in similar situations, and I'll be glad to introduce you to qualified individuals within the aeronautics industry to express how fouled the response was. Now settle down and think before you talk, unless you have a plane crash a few hundred yards away ... or rely on rapid response in your career or hobbies ... then go on with your rant and call me names.

[33bpfd]

And if any of you ever want to make a difference and not stand on the side lines and criticize go to your local fire departments ambulance companies police agencies and see if they have training explorer programs. See that if the plane had crashed into the stands that the crowd would mostly slow the rescue down cause people don't take the time

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd Go ahead and let's compare clinicals, if that makes you feel better. Let's either talk about who and how we have watched die ... because I have been right there ... or let's talk about a crappy response with no good excuses. If I was that captain, I would be looking for a new job, and if I was their insurance underwriter, I would be scratching a policy before sunrise.

[copmagnetcom]

@theworkerful Wow, now there is a great sense of compassion that you can take home and chew on for a while. Because I felt something strong for a fellow liver of life and the urgency to do something to help, does that make me a caveman? I wonder if you read a screen name wrong. I am the man who comforted my family as the talked of how it feels to watch me race and "what if that was you, Daddy?" I feel that although the pilot was dead on impact, that there should always be an observed effort.

[33bpfd]

@jhumphrey what part of my statement requires therapy. When you walk in my shoes or any of these people that are here to do a job that not everyone can handle then I believe you have the right to suggest therapy but just a generalized statement I think your disturbed. Sorry for sharing an opinion that according to the comments is shared with most of the commenters. So just stand in your corner beat on your chest and of course continue to do nothing. I'm sure your well versed in it and have A w

[JBtheProducer]

although he was dead on impact, there could have been other situations where that amount of time could have been the difference between life and death. they should have been prepare and out there within seconds.

[jhumphrey79]

33bpfd, I think you need some serious therapy. I get that your line of work is stressful, but you are an obvious nut job. Copmagnetcom, I said daughter before I'd read it was your son. Anyway, thanks for posting.

[copmagnetcom]

@jhumphrey79 Thank you. As I spoke with a dear friend in the aeronautics industry, he was angry just as I was, but his take on it was that in order to save future lives, we must "preserve evidence". I guess that it may seem really easy to make a first reaction that the pilot was dead, but doesn't some sense of optimism prevail ... at least for a moment? I am a pretty logical guy, with a good head on my shoulders, but for an instant, the thought is to "put him out and try to save him!"

[copmagnetcom]

@jhumphrey79 I forgot to mention that the mistake of son or daughter is quite easy. I had both at the event, and both were talking. It was actually two sons and a daughter, and at least two of them were vocal. One before the crash (daughter) and one who just wanted to go home where he could feel safe again (son). All five of my family are still shaken, and I believe many others are as well. Yes, these thing happen, but seldom in our presence, and that is a unique challenge unlike television.

[jhumphrey79]

I agree that it seemed like too long for emergency crews to get there but I guess it wasn't.

[jhumphrey79]

Great video. Sorry for your daughter. I s

[jenstefas]

From watching this tape it is clear water was put on the fire within two minutes.  I realize this seems longer as you have to stand there a watch. The real criticism should come if they hit a bystander, crashed into a plane or crashed themselves when responding too quickly. Remember, first responders run TOWARDS THE FIRE. They do this as quickly and SAFELY as possible. Please do not criticize the people who are willing to do that while you stand there.

[copmagnetcom]

@jenstefas That was an incorrect assessment, although I know the video is grainy, there was no fire crew for well over 2 minutes. The prior vehicles were without any firefighting equipment. That was hard to see.

[jenstefas]

@copmagnetcom . Its hard to tell from this video, but another one is clearer. It is just over two minutes from impact to Water on Plane. I work for an ambulance service and closely with a fire department.  What people are writing makes it sound like firefighters were in their trucks in full bunker gear ready to hit the gas the second a plane hit the ground. To me, the response time was not slow.

[Hex13337]

@jenstefas to me it was, it was a airshow they should of already had fire rescue staged in full gear had this been just another day at the airport responce time would of been acceptable but being this was a airshow they should of had trucks on both ends of runway on the taxi way

[jenstefas]

@Hex13337 The majority of Air Shows, races, etc where fire departments stage at do not see events that they need to respond too. To put them in full bunker gear at the end of both runways just puts more obstacles for planes to avoid and firefighters who are passing out from the heat (have you ever been in bunker gear).

[Hex13337]

@jenstefas yes i have, our local airshow has a large rescue stageing center about show center then has a truck on both ends, being there airport crash trucks i doubt they would be in rescue gear in it... another point is the local one here is at a airforce base

[richardladd]

@jenstefas So . . . I guess since the odds are they won't see an event worthy of their attention, it's probably OK to have a beer or two? After all, it's highly unlikely anything will occur, right? Fire and ambulance crews aren't called "first responders" for nothing. They don't have to be in full turnout gear to be reasonably ready to roll. Their job is to be ready IF and WHEN something happens; to expect something might happen; and to be prepared to be first on the scene.

[upway2l8again]

RIP Mr. Jensen, loved your flying, thank you... and CM, your son's panicked plea honestly brought a lump to this mom's throat and tears to her eyes. Hug that kid... it scared a lot of us, I think.

[copmagnetcom]

@upway2l8again Thank you. Simon was hurt a lot. He was the reason we scheduled this trip to the air show, as he is a fanatic about aeronautics. We all are, really, but Simon is 8, and it is a huge emphasis for him. The feeling for the Jensen family ran deep for Simon, as we heard on the way home. What we all agreed was that, just as I would have them feel for me as a race driver, Mr. Jensen will be remembered for his skill, and died doing something he clearly loved very much.

[upway2l8again]

@copmagnetcom I have a child about that age; I don't know Simon but you know the one talk probably won't heal him, right? This will replay in his mind for... well... a long time. But you being in a high-risk sport maybe he's seen stuff already, dunno. Anywho, we as parents do our best. Also wanted to point out I had seen another video from closer up, there was another vehicle on the scene *very quickly*, a red minivan I think, was there long before anything with flashing lights, *they knew.*

[copmagnetcom]

@upway2l8again Thank you for your consideration of Mr. Jensen. He was truly inspired and a passionate pilot. There was certainly a lot of hugging afterward. Many comments I have read related to how futile a rescue effort would have been, but my children will always be raised to err on the side of optimism, just as my initial reaction reflected. After all, humans have fallen from 15,000 feet and lived, and the dread of wondering "what if" is worse than making futile efforts.

[m4ster017]

whats up with all these plane crashes this year?

[ford182002]

It looked like he accidentally stalled the engine... as for the response time the first car was there within ninety seconds... most airports can't roll emergency response until the tower clears them to enter the runways.. the first car you saw was probably an rrv (rapid response vehicle) to get there and advise the tower and to render aid

[copmagnetcom]

@ford182002 The first one was there in 20 seconds, but the first with fire suppressant was well over two minutes. I believe the first was his crew, but not sure. In any case, it was a deadly impact, but as I said in another comment, it is tragic that the effort to at least preserve the scene does hold a lot of important value ... not the least of which can be the sense of security of onlookers and ability to discover what went wrong, in order to avoid a reoccurrance.

[stephx29]

Well I'm pretty sure he was dead on impact, so there is no need to discredit any emergency response teams.

[33bpfd]

I apologize if I sound annoyed. It is frustrating when every one wants right now and dosnt take in to consideration that things have a process. A large airfield you are going to have access issues as oppose to an enclosed 2 mike oval race track. Much smaller

Distance to cover. No retaining wall in the middle of an air field to protect the rescuers or in this case the recoverers because that's what it was. When we do standbys like that we don't stay entirely geared up causes fatigue

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd Thank you. I respect your response. The distance was very minimal, however. As a racer, I run road courses at 2-4 miles, and this would not have been acceptable even in the longest. I do understand being geared up, and the challenges, but in every race I have run, there is a fully geared up crew with a foot on the gas ... even on 110 degree days in the sun. I just shudder that the same is not true when the risk so much higher as that of an aircraft. It was really slower than should be.

[BlackWidowZ93]

This is the second aircraft crash of the day we also lost Red arrow 4 pilot got killed.

[copmagnetcom]

@BlackWidowZ93 I heard the same. The dangers really are clear, and although the pilots are highly skilled, we still cannot dismiss the shock. I breathe shallower for each of them.

[BlackWidowZ93]

@copmagnetcom I dont think it matters about skills accidents can still happen. Losing Red 4 was the first death ever of the Red arrows. It must be so bad seing your last 4 seconds what goes threw there minds they must think "Thats it for me love my wife and kids" Then crash. RIP ro them both :(

[ruppgeoff]

Very sad to see such a tragedy happen. I feel for the family!

[snorkellisab]

obviously no need to hurry ...

[JosephBr0seph]

very very sad, prayers go out to his family. but i laughed when you said "OH MY GOD, OH IT BLEW UP". probably just the way you said it.

[copmagnetcom]

@JosephBr0seph I guess it was pretty hard to know how to react. It was just shocking. I saw many various reactions of fear, sadness, and anger across the crowd. One that was chilling to me is that of my 8 year old son, who just wanted to go home where he could feel safe again.

[straighttailpilot]

@copmagnetcom I know how hard it is to see something like this. I was in Reno airraces in 1999 when Mark Levitz's aircarft desintegrated in flight. I was only about 15 or 16 it was very hard on me. RIP Bryan.

[straighttailpilot]

@copmagnetcom I feel for that kid screaming take me home.

[slimjam44]

33bpfd I agree

[jacob98hall]

i arrived right when it happend but i didint see is. i was on the wall

[slimjam44]

Sad. Childish comments about rescue workers don't sound good.

[copmagnetcom]

@slimjam44 When you work around danger, it is easier to be critical. They were on site, but took their time to respond.

[biltwn93]

Not much you can do when a small aircraft like that slams into the ground...

[copmagnetcom]

@biltwn93 Indeed, but my thought still remains that if only out of respect for the family, friends, and onlookers, it would be good to see at least a fire truck in two minutes. If that ever happened at a race track (where I perform), there would be hell to pay. I wonder how long it would have taken if it was in the crowd.

[aratidwell]

Looks like a wing-tip stalled on his pull-out. He had plenty of altitude just pulled back too hard on the stick

[33bpfd]

And I guarantee you that with that impact he was dead when he hit the ground

[33bpfd]

Listen dumb ass I know your upset by what you saw but it took less than a minute for the fire truck to respond. Shit happens and I didn't see you put your camera down and go running out there. You taped the shit. By the way your kid wants to go home. Probably a good idea instead of telling him it's all right. Fucking idiot

[copmagnetcom]

@33bpfd I think you need to watch the video again and check that response time. The red car was not a fire truck or ambulance. As for the "fucking idiot" comment, I race cars and I see response much faster at race tracks, and nothing is moving 300 MPH over spectators heads there. The crews are in their trucks and ready to roll in seconds. It sounds to me like you may be one of them ... and feeling guilty.

[MrChill161]

did he died?

[aratidwell]

@MrChill161 no sh$t. yes

[copmagnetcom]

@MrChill161 Yes.

[osterpicado]

That is very sad.