Sky Burial: Tibetan Burial Ritual

[MrOdsplut]

that poem was amazing

[Orayn]

This is pretty cool. I like the idea of feeding birds after I'm dead, rather than being in a wooden box six feet underground.

[Chichiri520]

Amazing! Just as we cannot stay in our mother's wombs forever, after 9 months we have to come out. Just so, this earth is our womb. We are waiting to "come out" of this womb in the earth in order to move on to the next life. If one thinks about it, even by just a bit, it helps one to value life and to watch for the deeds done in this life.

[1000thVoice]

Disposing of corpses while providing avian nutrition.

Also,look for the Tibetan self-mummification technique,which makes the Atkins diet look like something for pussies.

[Zipito06]

Hacking up a dead body and feeding it to vultures im laughing my ass off on how insane this is

[illsed]

its pure .. for me its a very good burial ..... because life comes from nothing and dies leave nothing ..... Buddhism teaches that there nothing permanent ....

[xihangyang]

i wonder how many tibetan could have acces to these kind of burial.

think about yushu 2010 earthquake.

to many body not enough bird.

the tibeatn population will comtinuel to grow expaninary.

but these bird population are growing lineary.

some day the demand is more then the need.

also some tibeatn live in the city that would have difficult to acces to the bird in the high mountian.

[xihangyang]

@xihangyang some rich tibetan in the city use a lot of money to hire a helikopter and pilot for these burial.

that money is beter spend on pore people and they should donate the organ to the need.

[FalunGongIsAmazing]

@xihangyang

Do you have a source for Tibetans hiring helicopters ?

It seems unlikely to me.

[xihangyang]

@FalunGongIsAmazing do you have source about torture of falun gong maybe by ccp.

it seems unlikely to me.

you shit hole.

[FalunGongIsAmazing]

@xihangyang

Lets skip the TORTURE and get into something more interesting. Do you know about LIVE Organ Harvesting in China??

organharvestinvestigation. net

is the site with the detailed report about Organ Harvesting titled

BLOODY HARVEST Revised Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China (the authors were nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize)

& this page

organharvestinvestigation. net/studies.htm

has Corroborating Studies

FREE China from LIVE Organ Harvesting

[xihangyang]

@FalunGongIsAmazing yes i heard about it.

but again there is no proof for that.

also it not that i do not believe you it juist i grow up in the west and are really disapointed by people like you.

like the west say the tibetan are being etichal cleasing by baning the tibetean Language.

but i found ton of tibetean Language on youtube and school in china.

then the tianman squire again some say 100 die, but that was bulshitt.

it like a child cry for wolf and this is the 3rd time.

and i stop believ.

[FalunGongIsAmazing]

@xihangyang

Why do you think that the authors of "BLOODY HARVEST - Revised Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China" were nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize ??

#

Do you know that Tibetan is not used in high schools in Tibet and that the use of Tibetan is discouraged in Lhasa ??

[xihangyang]

@FalunGongIsAmazing why is li shoa boa receive a nobel price award and not juilan assant of wikileak.

why not all those communnist that been murder and in prison and lost there job by the american goverment in the '50.

never receive a nobel price.

why did obama receice a nobel price award for using torture in quatanaman bay in cuba.

the torture did kill osama bin laden.

why did daila lama receive a nobel price award for his prosecution of the Dorje Shugden practise.

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@xihangyang

HH Dalai Lama's Advice Concerning Dolgyal (Shugden)

*

Following long and careful investigations, HH Dalai Lama strongly discourages Tibetan Buddhists from propitiating the fierce spirit known as Dolgyal (Shugden).

Although he once practised Dolgyal propitiation himself, His Holiness renounced the practice in 1975 after discovering the profound historical, social and religious problems associated with it.

go to

dalailama. com/messages/dolgyal-shugden (remove space)

for more info

[MrPleasethink]

@xihangyang

1)why is liu xiaobo in prison?

2)why did a lot of bad things happen in the past? why can't we learn from them and not just dwell on them?

3)i don't think he recieved it FOR torturing people.

4)same here, i thought he recieved it for spreading the word of peace and non-violence. atleast he's not imprisoning and torturing those people for practicing their faith.

[FalunGongIsAmazing]

@xihangyang

Estimates of people being killed in the Tienanmen Square Massacre are much higher than 100. People didn't just get MURDERED in Tienanmen Square.

You can watch "The Tank Man" (in 8 parts) and listen to eye witnesses talking about the MASSACRE in Beijing.

FREE Tibet and China

[FreeTibetandChina]

@xihangyang

Why should Tibetans have to learn Chinese in their own country of Tibet to get a decent job ??

[FalunGongIsAmazing]

@xihangyang

Birds would get to know the sites where bodies were left.

[ikhamo]

5/5

[piperrox13]

Just think of it as recycling. :)

[warrior7466]

They give the body to the birds which they shit out lol

[knoa123]

i like the poem

[knoa123]

cremation: Burning the body into dust

Burial: Burying

Mummification: mummified

and here is another thing to do,

whatever the case is, its the same as disposing the body of the dead, they are all same in respect, depends on the individual regardless of the procedure.

PEACE:

[Mijigua193]

Dust thou art to dust returnest, was not spoken from the soul!

[bhaihay]

revolting & savage

[xXxFeebzxXx]

@bhaihay nah, just a different culture. The ground is too hard for buriels so they give the body back to nature. They probably think its nuts that we burn our bodies and then keep them in jars

[bhaihay]

@xXxFeebzxXx

We don't necessarily keep the cremated remains in jars: the Indians release it into the Ganges, others scatter it in gardens, etc. No, what is brutal about the Tibetans is that they smash & pulp the body into a mass of flesh & broken bones before offering it to the Vultures. The thought is not pleasant. Cremation or burial does not entail beforehand further injury or insult to the body of a loved one i.e. smashing up the body.

[SpazzyNoodle]

@bhaihay So is nature in general. Doesn't a lion rip apart and eat its prey to survive? When an animal dies of natural causes does the body just stay there? They get eaten like anything else and become part of the food chain. So must we. In the end, death of anything allows for other organisms to live. That's the way it is, that's the way it has always been, that is the way it will always bee. Devour to survive.Tibetans have a different way of showing it with sky burials. Our death makes life.

[bhaibhai22]

@SpazzyNoodle

I do not disagree with you, just that the preparation for Sky burial is a brutal exercise on the body of a loved one.

I am Bhaihay but have forgotten my Youtube password.

[iluvcelinaagain]

Why dont you enjoy the sky burial and stfu about china. You guys need to know the history on slavery in tibet. Anyways nice video

[bkilpat01]

@surkhalam Spoken like a true Maoist or NKT member. As to which one would make you stupider, I've no idea...

[198952572]

the speech at the begining was beautiful

[xtremixt1]

Tibetans seem interesting people with interesting culture... they don't bother other people and they don't push their culture on others so China should let Tibet alone and stop bothering them.

[Etimos]

@xtremixt1 They did conquer parts of China once upon a time, actually. They seem perfectly peaceful now, but no culture is innocent. Which is not to say they deserve what China is doing now, but that's life. If the Tibetans recognize anything, it's that life is not kind, and those who stand still are consumed for food by those who move. It's the intrinsic law of nature.

[sztliu]

@xtremixt1 shut up. u know nothing about Tibet

[firuinthehouse]

@sztliu and you do ? what makes you think you're in a position to ask people to shut up?

[bhaihay1]

@xtremixt1

My friend, who leaves other people alone & not impose their culture on others: British, American, Indian, Arabs? The Tibetans tried to conquer China & Mongolia in the recent past.

[bhaibhai22]

@xtremixt1

Too bad, too late

[xtremixt1]

@bhaibhai22 yeah too bad and too late, so what?

[Sonyhamster]

@xtremixt1 Would the UK give up Scotland or Wales? Would the USA give up each state and let them become independent?

And where have you read that China is hassling the Tibetans? In reality, it is a fight in the political arena, not personally with the people.

[xtremixt1]

@Sonyhamster can't compare China's situation to the West.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

In 1963 HH the Dalai Lama presented a draft democratic constitution for Tibet.

In 1992 HH the Dalai Lama initiated a number of additional major democratic steps, including the direct elections of Kalons (Ministers) by the Assembly of Tibetan People's Deputies and the establishment of a judiciary branch. Previously Kalons appointed directly by His Holiness.

In 2001 first direct democratic elections held by the Tibetan people for the post of Kalon Tripa (senior Minister) in the history of Tibet

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

On 10 March 1959, tens of thousands Tibetans gathered around the Norbulingka Palace, determined to thwart any threat to their young leader's life. This marked the beginning of the Tibetan uprising in Lhasa against the communists.

If Tibetans were serfs or slaves many thousands of loyal Tibetans wouldn't have surrounded HH the Dalai Lama's palace to protect him.

Learn Tibet history and free your brainwashed mind.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Do you know that Tibet is an INVADED and OCCUPIED country ???

Have you heard of Black Jails in China ?

[HumanRightsVideosT]

There were peasant farmers in Tibet in 1948.

Now Tibetans have NO freedom in Tibet in 2010. If you don't believe me watch

Tibet, six months on: 'There is no freedom here' (6:30 minutes)

watch?v=A_hp_Zo2q1k

from TheGuardian

[Maohamet]

Halted by the Red Army, lmfao. Something was halted by the Red Army alright--freedom of thought.

[superCatia]

FREE TIBET!!!!!!!!

[bardockiv12]

As Steve irwin would Say Crocs Rule!

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Steve played with fire and got burnt (or stabbed to be more precise).

Free Tibet, East Turkestan, South Mongolia, Falun Gong and China

[bardockiv12]

im sure if it where a matter of cost the pope would donate all the coal and wood they would need to cremate so there is no excuse.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Christianity should learn more about environmental sustainability. I have seen US Christians giving out advise to buy gold on a Christian channel.

[bardockiv12]

in christianity the human body is Sacred and shoudent be defiled this was and also cuting up the body like that isent healthy for a persons Psychology.......man this is sick

[ls1z28chris]

@bardockiv12

Neither is the death cult of christianity that preaches life is a meaningless hold-over to eternity with a carpenter.

[superCatia]

Yes, it is given to worms and  bacteria underground. It is not called "defilement" but "decomposition".

[heomak]

@bardockiv12 -that is your ethnocentrism kicking in. not everyone goes around cutting dead bodies..there's a person who does that professionally. this practice has been going on for years and it clearly hasn't had any negative impact on the individual cutting it up or else he/she wouldn't be doing it in the first place..learn more about it before you throw your euro centric judgments around.

[bardockiv12]

There Is a Word in my countery for people who professionally do thouse kind of things. its snafu Situation normal All Fucked Up. get a human wood chipper and ill stop bitching. fuck you can get crocs in a pool of water and feed the corpses to them and you woudent need to cut it up at all.

[heomak]

@ bardockiv12- how smart do u sound saying "fuck you can get crocs in a pool of water and feed the corpses to them"....honey, there are no crocodiles in Tibet. Have u even been there? I"m guesing NOT cuz u wouldn't be saying such senseless stuff if u have.

[bardockiv12]

I Fucking Said you can GET as in aquire buy inharit fucking breed them and bring them up to the roof of the world. its not rocket science if its to cold just get a heated pool thats what they do in Russia and its probley just as bad as it is up there. jesus ive never seen so many excuses in my life over something so fucking simple even a lobotomized chimp could figuire it out.

[heomak]

can you imagine the cost of buying and upkeep it would take?

Who's gonna buy it? Tibetans are barely getting by under the Chinese regime that promotes the Han Chinese and now u want them to buy a freakin crocodile. LOL. the way the tibetans are doing it now suits them fine...it's more economical and environmentally friendly too.

[heomak]

if u're generous enough to buy them lots of crocodiles and ship it to tibet, i'm sure they wouldn't mind it. there are 6 millions tibetans.

[heomak]

tibet aint no troipical country my friend.

[inVivoArt]

I would choose this too, all my life I have taken energy from other life forms, so when I no longer can use it, give it back, its most natural. I really dislike the western way, to bury the body so deep or to burn it, wasting all the molecules I build.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

To learn more about death in Tibet please watch

Lobsang Sangay

watch?v=eGZkj9GpnLo

which shows there is no dignity in death in Tibet now. Free Tibet from the evil communist party.

[superCatia]

The forces of history someday will. Just see how big empires tend to dissolve, and other countries are born.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Things are changing rapidly check this out

FDI:Argentine Judge Orders Arrest of Top Chinese Communist Party Officials for Crimes Against Humanity

clearwisdom. net/html/articles/2009/12/20/1­13256.html (remove spaces)

from 20 Dec 2009

[superCatia]

Hope  so!

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

This is the latest development that I'm aware of

The communist party is scared of the Shen Yun Performing Arts (previously known as the Divine Performing Arts). So six key production staff have been refused Hong Kong visas

for more information see

theepochtimes. com/n2/content/view/28503 (remove space)

Chinese culture is being banned in Hong Kong now.

[budbadbig]

Im sorry, they only do this after the perosn is dead right? Or do kill people for this purpose lik a sacrifice? If they do so, then it´s disgusting. If it´s only a way to be buried, like we are in coffins, then it seems pretty fair.

[Cupcake4me]

yep, only done after someone has passed away.

[budbadbig]

Thanks :)

[kauemoura]

The person OBVIOUSLY died naturally, after that, the body is given to the vultures and so it'll quickly go back to nature, and so, will soon be back to the circle of life.

[heomak]

since tibet has a terrain that is mountainous/rocky and desert like , therefore wood(to burn corpse and build coffins) is scarce...and after death, the body is considered useless and akin to empty vassal since the soul has moved on to take rebirth. feeding the corpse's remains to vultures is seen as making a sensible use of that empty vassal(benefiting hungry vultures) as opposed to just disposing it in other ways.

[budbadbig]

Yeah, I know...I thought it was like a punishment for criminals, but after all, it's natureal right?

[heomak]

yep.the death is natural(or could be that he/she died cuz someone murdered them(e.g. a thief, or mentally unstable person). Don't mistake this for a sacrifice or an offering. Look at it as the local/Tibetan way of cremating or burying a dead body.

[bardockiv12]

wow i wonder how they wed someone up there. probley cut off your feet then reattach them backwards. and insted of throwing rice they throw rat turds lol.

[heomak]

you need spelling check as an application on your computer buddy. no one understands anything you say..it might as well be baby talk..crazy gibberish.

[bardockiv12]

yea well woudent youtr lama say somethign to the effiect of thouse who know not what all others know have the grasp of the univurse or some stupid shit like that. like even the most stupidest person is the smartist lol.

[heomak]

beside's it's prolly the greenest/most environmentally conscious way to deal with a corpse. imagine how many trees were saved from Tibetans not having used wood to burn corpses and build coffins.

[bardockiv12]

it takes time and manpower use Crocs and leave it to Croc Power. or the human woodchipper.

[bardockiv12]

they are dead how can it be punishment? its more like nercophiela heaven to them people.

[budbadbig]

@bardockiv12

I already acknowledge it, thanks. But the first time I saw it I thought they were doing it like a sacrifice, or a punishment. If it's natural, cool.

[bardockiv12]

i guess if your into that kind of thing lol remind me not to invite you to my next sons Brit milah lol youll have a bucket of popcorn and a can of beer to the event with i bet one of them cheese helmet thingys you see football players ware and like red and blue facepaint. and doing belly danceing lol

[budbadbig]

@bardockiv12

Wow. Extremely sorry for not being a genious, like you.

[bardockiv12]

the vulture is a horrid bird to honor id rater be fead to eagles. i mean cmon the vulture is like natures F student.

[heomak]

the intention isn't to "honor" any one animal or bird. if eagles did want to eat the corpse's remains, it would be more then welcome to come eat it. and the same goes for crocodiles or any other animal..it's just that vultures are the ones that come and are attracted to human flesh.

[superCatia]

Eagles don't oblige us :(

[heomak]

i agree.

[dhundupdolker]

Even after death, the body is used to help another living being is the motive.

[Kinafaa]

This is crazy cant believe that people are dont that!!!

China must do something about that!

[1amDav1d]

It's crazy because you're in the Western culture which makes it seem barbaric. But each culture should have their own customs and everyone should learn to respect it.

[GGGunitNextLevel]

gay

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Perhaps you should stick to wacko jacko

Democracy for Tibet, East Turkestan, South Mongolia and China

[GGGunitNextLevel]

Another close minded, gossip believer, tv guided no lifer

What democracy are you talking about ? Huh ? Democracy is not for close minded, prejudiced animal abusers

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Do you know anything about Tibet, East Turkestan, South Mongolia or China ??

Free the US from poor education and poor democracy

[GGGunitNextLevel]

Yeah I know something..

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Do you know what CTA or HH or EV are in regards to Tibet or who TT is ???

[GGGunitNextLevel]

no I saw something on TV.. The situation is f*cked up

[sierra1bravo]

There's a macabre side as well to the sky burial. In Tibet, if the body is buried, it doesn't putrefy on account of the extreme cold. Fuel is extremely scarce (mostly yak dung), so cremation is not possible. Abandonment of the whole body in a protected place (like the Parsi dakhma-nasini system) doesn't work because there are no predators who can tackle a body of this size.

Therefore, the body is hewed into small pieces by the monks, so that the small birds, dogs and foxes can eat them.

[mellowasroma]

Haha, thats so funny!

[Swipecat]

Hate to be picky, but "assuring the ascent of the soul" is wrong. The Tibetans believe that the body is an empty shell and that the "ascent of the soul" is assured anyway. The ritual is purely a "giving to nature" thing.

[badarts]

Thanks for clarifying that.

[artillero9]

utterly beautiful.

[314noceu]

I guess you haven't seen the bit where the vultures rip the flesh from the corpse of the dead.

[artillero9]

i mean the concept of the soul in the sky, not necessarily the vultures eating your intestines. it would suck to see a loved one in that position.

[MujakiKid]

beautiful words