SA Radio - Constitution Party Pres. Cand. Chuck Baldwin Pt 1

[therealaj123]

lol Chuck Baldwin reason . com/blog/2008/09/22/ron-pauls-­presidential-endorse

[MVFipher]

The Constitution and the Libertarian Party should merge to form the Constitutional Libertarian Party. It's the only way either party will ever get anywhere, in Washington D.C. or in the separate states.

I know they have slightly different positions on certain issues, but so do those within the Republican and Democratic parties- yet they manage to get along and enjoy great success.

Unite to gain the power we need to promote constitutional liberty!

Christopher D. Osborn

fipher(.)blogspot(.)com

[MaverickWhig]

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[anttail]

this is excellent

I am voting for Baldwin - all the way!

[2connection]

hes got 200 Votes tomorrow in my small town in PA !

GO CHUCK

[wpine]

Chuck Baldwin 2008! Constitutional Government

Non Intervention Foreign Policy - Peace is

Patriotic! Baldwin will be at The Rally For

The Republic at his vendor booth. Come to

Minneapolis Sept. 2 - baldwin08. com

[2connection]

CB is an Awesome Candidate ! He has earned my vote through hard work, honesty, courage and Constitutional Principles

[wpine]

Right On tomrdee - We Must Look to The Major

Issues and not major on the minor. Those that

like Baldwin ok - but don't like the Constitution Party ... think of it this way -

did you support Ron Paul - he is in that sleazy - nasty party .... Vote for Principle -

Vote the Message - for the Individual ... NOT

the party. baldwin08. com

[tomrdee]

All this arguing over gay marrage and the 10 commandments while those in Washington would have the UN court be higher than our Supreme Court and rule that our laws do not pass the World Court.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

[VonHelton]

My party!

:D

VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY!

[2connection]

i voted for them in 04 in PA and will do so once more, PROUDLY ! I want to be part of the solution and not the problem, americans wake up, both major parties are laughing at you and dont care about you, so then why do you support them ?

THINK

[maxime32]

SA, do a story on the crazy pastors who are bankrupting our country for a crazy and immoral eschatology. Please, people need to think about this!

[MrXfromPlanetX]

I would support Chuck Baldwin, but I can't support someone who was the head of the Moral Majority for Florida. I truly believe in morality, but I believe gay people in a monogamous relationship are moral.

Conservatives need to focus on promiscuity, not gay marriage. Freedom is for everyone. Not just straight Christians.

The Constitution should defend everyone, whether you like their life style or not.

[maxime32]

I don't agree with homosexuality, but you are right that the Christian Right's emphasis is totally wrong. I wonder sometimes if this is not influenced by the fact many of them have not followed very good (hetero)sexual morality, so it is more convenient to focus on a fringe minority. Plus, it makes them feel pretty awesome.

It is also partly a fault of gay rights movement which is particularly radical in America.

[shiftstart]

Get the government off peoples backs and I care not whether you marry your mother to a cow.

[seancadams]

See marriage in America was originally was just a church thing and the state butted in and made people get a license to then to be official. Before all this, there was no reason to marry unless you followed a religion.

[Ovalshine]

I do hold that as a point (albeit a small one) against Baldwin and that only proves there can never be such a thing as a perfect candidate. However, it's a point that pales in comparison to the massive amount of points I've placed against the other candidates.

[lordaltay5]

You have every right to offend me in your private capacity by believing in superstitions like god but that doesn't mean the federal government enjoys that right. My gripe is not with private citizens' religion.

There are religions that do not have a God or Gods (Buddhism for example) so even your 'generic' term of God respects some religions in place of others and thus it is PROHIBITED for the government to stamp the term around in our coinage, our pledge of allegiance and in our courts.

[lordaltay5]

First of all the 10 commandments are specific to the abrahamic faiths. Obviously all societies have varying degrees of similarity with it but that's irrelevant. Second of all -- Islam IS an abrahamic faith, your post indicates you were ignorant of this fact.

The usage of the term god on federal currency and the appearance of religious text in front of federal court buildings offends me in the same way slavery does -- it is prohibited by our constitution.

[Kras3169]

gopplatform2008(dot)com

They're asking for video submissions about platform ideas for the Republican Party. We need to send them a RIDICULOUS amount of videos favoring Ron Paul philosophies, maybe state that you will not be voting for any liberal neo-Con Republicans. We need to spread this idea on YouTube, etc. Let's get to work!

[katsfanman]

Chuck Is A Great Guy Freedom IS OURS!!!

[oldhacks]

how many more washed up wannabe republican parties are going to pop up?

[slavophile1]

How many whiny, liberal turds are going to not reproduce and not create a part of America's future?

Answer: most.

Thank God.

[oldhacks]

how many up tight radical conservative neo nazis reproduce with people outside of there own bloodline?

Answer: None

what god?

[slavophile1]

Cunt, you do realize that national SOCIALISM is a left wing ideology? They are your ilk, you little whining, impotent gimp.

[oldhacks]

oh yea Racism has always been a liberal ideal huh. retard

[slavophile1]

Do you know what Marx's opinion on blacks was? Do you know Proudhon's ranting about Jews?

Of course you don't, genius.

[oldhacks]

I don't care what marx's opinions were. I have my own opinions. Just cuz I'm not an uptight conservative doesn't mean I'm a liberal socialist commie.

[chewbaca1989]

Good God man, don't you get it? Republicrats=McCain=Obama.

Mirror images in policies. And guess what? None of these policies work.

Constitution=Freedom=Prosperit­y

[oldhacks]

when did I ever say I was a liberal democrat? Just cuz I'm not an uptight conservative doesn't mean I'm the exact opposite.

Americans and their 2 party ideology.

[tattypatty]

i thought the Constitution was big on the separation of church and state. How would you feel about an atheist conservative running?

[TIAAVENDEALANTIN]

the constitution doesn't even contain the words separation of church and state...it says the Gov can not make any laws ESTABLISHING or restricting a religion. In other words, there can't be a Church of USA like there is a Church of England, nor can the Gov say...I don't like your god...you can't worship him/her in this country...thats it...that is the separation of church and state...no state mandated religion.

[lordaltay5]

If you're going to be so technical, I suggest you read the text so you don't look like an idiot. Here is what the Constitution says:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exchange thereof.."

This is different than your assertion that only the establishment of a state church is prohibited. Religious symbols like the 10 commandments near federal buildings and the word 'God' on Federally issued money is a clear violation of the 1st amendment.

[TIAAVENDEALANTIN]

neither of your 2 examples violates the First Amendment in any way shape or form...

Putting "God" (which is a generic term anyway, no one worships a deity whose name is God) on the money or the 10 commandments at a courthouse isn't Congress making any kind of law...

[lordaltay5]

is that a joke? God is a word used to refer to super natural deities. If that's not a religious term, nothing is. And the 10 commandments are specific to Abrahamic faiths. Any judge that denies a request for their removal is violating the 1st commandment and is a good candidate for assassination.

[TIAAVENDEALANTIN]

I didn't say God wasn't a religious term, I said is was a generic term....not excluding any particular religion, and the 10 commandments are not specific to Abraham's faith, they exist in one form or another in most all religions and in most all social laws...even the Qur'an contains basically the same laws, as does the 125th chapter of the Book of the Dead from Egypt. Point being again that they are not specific to Abraham....or Moses which would have made more sense, but not much.

[TIAAVENDEALANTIN]

lastly, how does not removing the 10 commandments from a court violate the First Commandment? that doesn't even come close to making sense, and if you meant to say first Amendment, it still doesn't make sense as having them there again is neither Congress making a law respecting an establishment of religion nor is it prohibiting the free exercise thereof. You may find it offensive, but the bill of rights doesn't say you have the right to never be offended.

[oyate1960]

Right so at issue is what's known as the "separation doctrine".

[murphycline]

note the word 'an' instead of 'the'. An establishment seems to be more like 'a shop' rather than 'the retail industry'.

[Ovalshine]

What the 1st amendment says is how I define separation of church and state. Which, of course, is quite different from how liberals define it. Liberals really aren't for separation of church and state. They're for oppression of the church by the state.

[lordaltay5]

I don't know a single mainstream liberal politician who wants to 'oppress' the church. If you support the 1st amendment, you must be opposed to the phrase 'In God we Trust' on the currency & the phrase 'Under God' in the pledge.

[Ovalshine]

I interpret that as if I'm to support the 1st amendment, I must oppose free speech. There's a right to have "under God" in the pledge just as much as there's a right not to say it. So, no, I'm not opposed to those words because I support the 1st amendment. However, I am opposed to any notion that saying the pledge or certain parts of it should be enforced or outlawed.

[lordaltay5]

our money is Federally issued. Having the word 'God' on federal issued paper is *NOT* a matter of 'free speech' as you try to sell it as. If Congress is to make no law respecting an establishment of religion, God has no place on federal notes. Similarly, the Pledge & Anthem are under Federal control so the same principle applies.

[Ovalshine]

Having God on the bill does not establish any religion as "God" is a general term. Nearly all religions believe in God. Different Gods, but still the focus is God. "In God We Trust" or "under God" but there's no specifying which God. In fact, it can be said that having "God" displayed as such represents a shining example of freedom of religion.

[lordaltay5]

You're just making excuses now. God is a religious term. Not all religions and/or beliefs include a God. If its its such an innocuous term, why even include it?

[Ovalshine]

I said nearly all. Don't skip words here. Also, not all people who believe in God are religious. Why include it? It could be a way of celebrating that we have religious freedom. In no way am I saying that you should accept those words. I'd hate myself for that intent. Just understand that this country doesn't revolve around what you'd consider acceptable standards.

[Kras3169]

i would have no problem with an atheist conservative running, and i'd prefer b/c i think the fairy tale scriptures that were written by man are only believable if you are a child or an extremely immature adult. as long as the candidate respects the constitution, and supports small government, small spending, and low taxes; i'll vote for that person.

[Ovalshine]

I want to tackle this last question as well. I would feel about an atheist running the same way I would anyone else of any other religious or non-religious belief. It's a value that means nothing in deciding a candidate. I'd vote in a Muslim if he/she holds the most respect for the Constitution. The most respect for our rights.

[tattypatty]

I was hoping to hear that. Do you consider yourself a conservative? I'm always confused/amazed when people are really by put off non-theism...

[Ovalshine]

I consider myself more of a Libertarian, however, I hold no allegiance to any party. I think no true Libertarian would. Also, it's no surprise that people would be put off by non-theism. We're talking about a society that has no clue what freedom is.

[AutoYorn1]

Vote for Chuck Baldwin for Honesty and true solutions

[KarateKidX]

HA! he sure showed you SA with your constantly using "liberal" as an attack word.