911 Hijackers Still Alive?

[Chuck65201]

How about a update on all of these supposedly alive hijackers?

[mafiahitmen100]

i herd that the 2 towers had explosives planted from the day they were built just incase they did collape so they cud controll the way the towersfell 2 stop it fuckin up te hole place ect. but if that WAS true they would of mentioned that at the time makes think though personlly i think it was a false flag opperation just look up opperation northwoods fuck man that was in the 60 s and they had that technology then.... wot about now?

" What a deadly web we weave .... rest wont fit in by

[shadowC10ne]

Like Hitler (or was it Goebels ?) said: "People will more likely to believe a big lie then a small one."

Just recently I started to read a lot of books on espionage, counter-intelligence and stuff. Serious stuff. I recommend some documents from us espionage center in Tehran. Very interesting. Google "Documents From the US Espionage Den".

It's old but very informative and gives perspective on covert actions.

Also I recommend to all website wikileaks [DOT] org ,

Knowledge is power! Peace!!!

[kentusmaximus]

I can't believe some balloon heads still believe in a conspiracy for 9/11. Imagine the number of people that would be involved in the logistics and organisation and execution of such a complex and secretive project. The simplicity with which information can be sent in seconds around the world would have made it soo easy to disclose vital information before and after the event. Suicide attacks are carried out by islamic lunatics everyday so why not for 9/11?

[edgarchinngon]

i bet bin laden sleeps in the guest room in bushes house!

[SAFAR32]

The us gov knew most americans have no brains that exacly what motivated them to do this crime in first place ...just read how stupid the comment are!!! lost hope of the american people

[iLL271]

iv got to agree with u on this one. whoever orchestrated this shitt did a Terrible job in covering their tracks -_- its so Obvious, its Pathetic...and these fools are still Rushing to war to defend the lies...

iLL .

[AgentExeider]

I see several conversations on here, so I will try to rectify some. 1. Unreacted Thermate compound was found in the dust and has been analyzed and confirmed as such. amounts are from 10-100 tons 2. there was an "Elevator Modernization" project going on months before 9/11, if you cut through the Gypsom board in the shaft, you can gain access to the center core without anyone seeing you, therefore the elevator company is suspect.

[GlutenIsEvil36]

WTC 7 did have damage to it. I saw video of the first 18 floors or so on one side damaged from falling debris from the WTC1 and WTC2. There is no way that building falls straight down though. All three buildings fell straight down nice and neat. None of the buildings fell to the side. They all collapsed nice and neat into their own footprints. Why wouldn't the building fall over towards the side where they were severly weakend by the planes? Why would all of it come down. B.S.

[chailfield1]

Buildings maintain their basic structure when falling. If its a tower, it falls to the side, you need controlled demos to strategically weaken it causing a neat, vertical-only fall. A fire will not pull down a building. Many, larger fires have happened in skyscrapers, all lasting many hours, even days. None have ever fallen before. The idea that the entire building 7 would come down as it did because of minor damage defies all imagination.

[fftwelvefan]

Just so everyone knows, they place these so called, "people" among us just to cause confusion and strife... And that comment about magical dust, you know force can be added from explosions. He won't argue cause your so full of yourself. Assume everything and nothing, the side that supports the most facts is the one to delineate, and these facts of yours most of them are planted by government agents...

[jeffmay1]

I guess that you didn't like me sending you the videos of the firefighters predicting it was going to fall. If I'd know that just sending you facts and proof would stop you from arguing with me I'd have started with the videos.

Haha, "I won't argue anymore", OF COURSE NOT, I sent you the proof that you were WRONG!

[Bora199420]

how did they survived?????????

[stealthmeth]

holy shiyt man... i bet u voted for obama... just to have him send MORE troops to afghanistan...

[nigletgook]

i meant wtc7

[nigletgook]

Face the facts people the trade center was poorly built. as far as wtc, maybe they just wanted to get rid of it. i don't believe in conspiracy theories. unless i have proof. terrorism is real , we're fighting two wars and still no answers. If this was a conspiracy people can come forward Bush is gone. I'm sure no one is gonna die if they come forward.

[AmericasFan]

Actually the buildings performed better than expected considering the tremondous impacts they sustained. Thats why they stood as long as they did.

[paki99]

Everybody Wake up

[maxshooter]

it was not arabs it was hispanics

[jeffmay1]

Are you sniffing glue boy? The arabs are seen boarding the planes, wake up and stop being so bloody stupid.

[catface21007]

that is not binladin and why did the usa made up a story about all those people who had nothing to do with the hijacking?i wonder if it was our own people who did it to wage war on iraq for oil?so many mysteris i dont know who to belive anymore.

[jeffmay1]

Iraq for oil? wow, you really have been listening to crap. It was Bin Laden, don't get fooled by unemployed internet losers that are trying to spread crap so that you go to their sites and buy stuff.

[jdtrickster4]

So why are we still in Iraq 5 yrs later? How can the terrorists still be found alive? And no-one's talking about concentration camps; you brought that up. We're speaking of 9/11.

"...stop listening to bs internet crap that you watch because you are bored"

Is that why YOU'RE here? Have you considered that perhaps the MSM "crap" & "lies" might be a reason people look for alternate sources of information? Why did Bush name it Operation Iraqi Liberation? How could Atta's passport be found intact?

[jeffmay1]

I was answering someone else going on a rant about how we're all going to end up in concentration camps and drinking floride and every other paranoid delusion out there.

As for Atta's passport, there were thousands of papers blown out of the bldg. You can see it in every video of the second impact, did the gov't plant every other piece of paper as well?

As for why you are still in Iraq, it's because you started a job there, and you can't leave until you finish what you started. Pretty simple

[jdtrickster4]

"it's because you started a job there, and you can't leave until you finish what you started."

What's the 'job?' I mean if we were wrong we should just pull out like we finally had to "eat crow" & do in Viet-Nam, dont you think?

Btw if you drink tap water you're getting fluoride

So, let me ask you then, you don't believe the BBC saying many of these guys are alive?

[jeffmay1]

What I am saying is that the report is from early Oct 2001, under a month after the attacks, and there were in fact some mistakes made on the original list. The list was adjusted the same month, and none of the hijackers on the list from Nov 2001 are alive

[muzicmaker2001]

First question, how do you conduct an "investigation" identifying all hijackers involved in 3 frickin days? Next, where is this updated list released in Nov 01 that you speak of with the full explanation for the error. I haven't seen this on the FBI website? You would think someone would've interrupted every TV broadcast with this information or at very least, had in the papers?

[jeffmay1]

They did, 7 yrs ago. This is old old old old news. The mistakes were because some of the hijackers used stolen passports and faked their identities. Pretty simple. The first list that came out was based on the passenger manifest. Then it became clear some of them used fake Id's and passports and the investigation began. They found the cars they had rented and left at the airports, where they had been living and their detailed steps leading up to watching them board the planes on video.

[muzicmaker2001]

Talk is cheap. Where is this officially documented report from the FBI showing the updated list including the reason for error? Link? And why is this news only known to debunkers and 911myths?

fbi*gov/pressrel/pressrel01/09­1401hj*htm

[jeffmay1]

And look at the dates with all those claims, they are all within 2wks of 9/11. And if you pause at 54 seconds, he says he's alive and well, but that his passport was stolen. Thats why he's on the list, one of the real hijackers was using his passport and identity in the U.S. Putting the list together in 3 days was simple, hell it would take less than 20 minutes.

[jeffmay1]

You know that he brought it into the cockpit with him why? It couldn't have been in his bag in the overhead compartment over his original seat?

[jeffmay1]

the link you provide is from 3 days after the attacks. We already know that is the wrong list, so what is the point of showing it again????

[muzicmaker2001]

This is turning into a broken record. Where is the updated list from the FBI (not 911myths, 911 Commission, etc) showing the real hijakcer's identity and the explanation for the error? There isn't one.

On September 20th and 27th, FBI Director Mueller admitted on CNN that there is no legal proof to prove the identities of the hijackers.

[downscale]

They're in the White House.

[jeffmay1]

The list of hijackers in the 9/11 report is DIFFERENT than the orignal list that was released. Stop pretending you've read it when you obviously haven't. As for explanation, they did, it was crystal clear. Some had stolen passports. Used other people names. So when they released the name, the guys whose passports had been stolen came forward, it was cleared up quickly.If you pause even during Loose Change where they show the picture real fast, pause it and read the caption it explains even there

[muzicmaker2001]

Here's the list form the FBI:

fbi*gov/pressrel/pressrel01/09­2701hjpic*htm

Please show me where this was "cleared" up (mistaken identity, stolen passports, etc)?

[jeffmay1]

The link you sent me proves my point. It shows articles from Sept 23, in which some "suspected" hijackers came forward and said they had been in the States within the last year but had their passports stolen. Gee, I wonder who could have stolen them. If you are trying to prove a point, find an article that isn't from within weeks of 9/11 when there were still plenty of mistakes floating around.

[muzicmaker2001]

Ok, you're saying this is all due to mistaken identity due to stolen passports, right? Post a link to ANY official article or document showing that this was the case and a release of the "real" hijackers? I have asked you this question many times with nothing from you but more ranting. Can you produce ANY evidence supporting your position?

From the FBI's website:

"It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way." Funny stuff..

[jeffmay1]

Exactly what do you call an "official article"? If you look at the original articles, and then read the 19 detailed in the 9/11 commission report, you will notice that any mistakes had been cleared up. As for the FBI list that people keep asking about, the hijackers are all dead, they don't have a most wanted list for dead people

[muzicmaker2001]

I just took a look at the 911 Commission Report where the hijackers are mentioned. Can you refer to the section or page #s where these mistakes have been cleared up completely? Also, it seems from the their website (not from people as you say)that the FBI is still investigation the true identities of the hijackers?

[muzicmaker2001]

"As for Atta's passport, there were thousands of papers blown out of the bldg."

The passport was located in the cockpit which slammed head-on into a steel wall. Next, the plane's jet fuel was supposedly the ignition source leading to temps hot enough to weaken steel. The papers were from the many office buildings throughout the building, not just the impact zone. The reason for the papers (and dust) everywhere was due to the explosive force of the demo charges.

[jeffmay1]

"explosive force of the demo charges?" Really? so now you think that at the exact second of impact there were also bombs going off on the exact floors that the planes just happened to hit? This is getting crazier by the second.

Arguing about a hijacking list that was erroneous is one thing, I can see why you needed to be corrected, but now just jumping into demolition (which would have been impossible and never could have happened) well thats just crazy. I at least thought you were serious

[muzicmaker2001]

Say what? The papers throughout the area weren't expelled at the plane impact. They were expelled during the collapse (explosions).

Still no link to the documented report from the FBI about the updated hijackers list? Yes, correct me.

[jeffmay1]

The were expelled during the impact of the planes. There are countless clips of the second impact where you can see thousands of piece of paper floating in the air right after the plane crashed. Thousands and thousands, clear as day

[muzicmaker2001]

"The were expelled during the impact of the planes."

youtube*com/watch?v=XkbDCJahza­I

[jeffmay1]

um, any chance you read the 9/11 commission report, give a pretty detailed accounting of all 19 hijackers, their names, when they arrived in the U.S., pretty detailed info about their time in the months leading up to 9/11, including right up until they were seen on video boarding the planes.

As for FBI? What list are you expecting? They are DEAD, therefor they are not WANTED, I hardly think you will find an FBI list of dead people they aren't looking for anymore.

And I sent you details

[viktorj85]

hey idiot, the buildings collapsed hours after impact. secondly there is approximately 1000 engineers and demolition experts who have signed atested to the fact those buildings resemble a controlled demolition to a tee.

[jeffmay1]

I don't care if they "resemble" a demolition. I care what you can prove. The top demolition experts all agree it would take 6+ months, a full team, full time to set up 270 floors for what would be the largest demolition attempt in history. Prove how they did that without one person noticing. Prove why not one person noticed det cords or blast caps anywhere on the entire site. Thermate has been disproven, so prove how it could happen.

[Mesina2]

People noticed there was something strabge happening on WTC 1, 2 and 7. I mean who wouldn't notice large amount of dust and noise of heavy machinery? But people just ignore it becouse they were scared and/or busy with work. Some people check those noises after work but found nothing. There are only few witneses that they told that.

[jeffmay1]

The latest nano thermate version is that there was up to 200,000 pounds of nano thermite planted in the WTC's, plus regular explosives to aid them along. Are you seriously trying to claim that 50,000+ workers (except a handfull) all ignored 200,000 pounds of explosive material being planted next to their desks because they had work to do?

[Mesina2]

Those explosives were planted in empty floors. There were many empty floors.

[jeffmay1]

Nice theory but the collapses started at the impact zones. Not even truthers dispute that. The floors at the impact zones were not empty. Having explosives on an empty floor below the begining of the collapse does not explain why the collapse began in the first place.

[Mesina2]

But many works were done while nobody worked too. So explosive could get planted then too on floors where people work. And one night before 9/11 poweer was cut down so workers could install new Internet cables, but no cameras worked then so they could plant explosive peacefully.

P.S.

I didn't change theory.

[jeffmay1]

Listen, you are talking about 200,000 POUNDS of explosives. (according to truther estimates, not mine) Please think about that a little more seriously. It's impossible. A volvo weighs are 4000 pounds. You are talking about planting the weight of 50 cars on window sills in the impact zone areas. You really think that would not be noticed? You really think that could be installed in a powerdown the night before? And for the record, there is no proof anywhere of a powerdown the night before

[Mesina2]

So you are telling that 3 buildings which are one of the strongest in world fell from fire in free fall speed without air resistance and biggest piece of buildings are smaller then telephone?! Oh and WTC 3, 4, 5 and 6 didn't collapse even though they were on fire too and WTC S and N fell on them and those 4 buildings were much smaller and weaker.

[jeffmay1]

-WTC's were NOT the strongest bldgs in the world. What a strange comment

-The did NOT fall a free fall speed at all (In videos you can see the debris falling at over twice the speed of the bldg)

-The biggest pieces are full size core colums and thousands of pounds, NOT smaller than a telephone (again, strange comment and highly inaccurate, lay off all the Youtube videos)

-WTC 3,4,5 and 6 were all COMPLETELY destroyed. They did not however have the same weight above them to completely collapse

[Mesina2]

- one of the strongest, not strongest

-they fall in less then 10 seconds!

-I didn't ment from building structure, I ment by stairs, elevators, furniture, bodies...

-yes they were completly destroyed, but then how WTC 7 did collapse!? It doesn't make any sense! WTC 7 is God damn fortress and it collpased from small fires and few debrief from WTC N but WTC3, 4, 5 and 6 were much weaker and smaller and both buildings fell on them and didn't collapse and they were on much worse fires then WTC 7?!

[jeffmay1]

A better question for you is even if I can't prove anything you've asked, how does any of that link it to George Bush and a gov't inside job? You can't just say my not knowing an answer to something is proof that it was an inside job, you actually have to provide some proof that it was.

That aside, it wasn't any stronger than any other average skyscraper. As it turns out, it was built with the worst design possible to be hit by a plane

-They did not fall in less than 10 seconds

[jeffmay1]

-When 40 floors collapses on the floor below it, do you really think that everything on the lower floor would not be crushed?

-The bldg did NOT fall at free fall speed. Enough with that already. Any video clearly shows that the debris is falling at least twice as fast as the bldg. So what speed is the debris falling at then? That's some magic debris

-The smaller bldgs did not have the weight load of 20 (WTC1) 40 (WTC2) or 40 (WTC7) full 1 acres floors above it adding stress to the supports.

[Mesina2]

-you missed the point, WTC 7 is not supouse to collapse, but yet id did for "mysterious" reson

-blind idiot

-stupid

[jeffmay1]

NO BUILDING IS SUPPOSED TO COLLAPSE (and you're calling ME the blind idiot)

Firefighters were expecting it to collapse for hours before it actually did. It was hardly a mystery since they were expecting it.

I guess all the firefighters are in on it then? They only lost close to 350 of their partners, friends and co-workers that day because of the collapse of the first 2 towers, but ya, they are going to lie to protect Bush who according to you pre planned the death of all their co workers

[Mesina2]

Dude, they never said how they know that building will collapse.

[jeffmay1]

Sure they did. You can even watch videos of firefighters predicting it.

The bldg is leaning, it's lost all structural integrity, you can hear it creaking and groaning from inside the bldg.

[Mesina2]

Hmh, what?! Know what something, I won't argue anymore. Stay being sheeple.

[jeffmay1]

Bldg 6 for example was 8 floors high. When the bldg collapsed it completely destroyed it. The top floors were all demolished to nothing. Once floors 5,6,7 and 8 were destroyed, there was no weight left to put pressure on the bottom 4 floors so of course it didn't collapse. If there would have been 40 more floors above the destroyed 5-8, you can bet your last dollar that all 40 of them would have come down. The bldg was completely destroyed.

[jeffmay1]

Even Barry Jennings (the 9/11 truthers so called smoking gun witness) has clearly said that he couldn't believe how hot it was in the bldg from the fires when he was trying to escape it. Is that from small fires?

He has also said clearly that he does not think that the gov't was involved or that there was any type of conspiracy.

[jeffmay1]

You are also ignoring the unique design of WTC7. It was built over a subway and an electricity substation. It was the only bldg built like it in the entire world. It didn't have major columns going deep into the bedrock. The bldg was uniquely designed with only 3 main trusses from the ground up to about the 10th floor. It didn't have the usual support that most bldgs have. And last, they were NOT small fires, there were many very large fires going on, and the front of the bldg was scooped out

[muzicmaker2001]

jeffmay1,

You claimed to have had pictures/videos showing these supposed massive fires to WTC7. I asked you many months back to send it to me, but I have nothing yet?? Can you send them now?

[z04040]

then y no american is doin sumthing atleast stop the war in iraq n afghanistan

[tiby93]

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

ok first of all: they found the bodies of ALL five flight 77 hijackers

2nd of all: Atta's father said he recived phone calls on september 12th.. ok, but let me tell you something:"In NYC on 9/11 it was september 11th... but in Egypt: the SAME DAY it was september 12th"

don't belive me: well to bad 4 u!

3rd of all: how could you smash head first into a tower, then theres a big fire, the building falls down.. & survive?

[muzicmaker2001]

There are no hijackers listed on the official autopsy report conducted by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. Also, there are no hijackers listed on the official passenger manifest for Flight 77:

cnn[dot]com/SPECIALS/2001/trad­e[dot]center/victims/AA77[dot]­victims.html

[tiby93]

no hijackers huh..... thats not something worth invertigating.. not for me anyway.

but thanks for the tip

[clampya02]

yeah, I agree with you, best not to investigate that, its much easier to live in a fairy tale land than face the harsh truth aye.

[FishermanJ]

its amazing how many people have this view. So many, even my own family members refuse to believe, and many wont even look at any evidence. Ive spoken to people that would rather not know, just go about their lives. So sad. Sad is used too often these days, but for people to not question whatsoever is so sad, and for not fighting for their rights, they will surely lose them. I cry.

[lannijolie]

I know! i completly hear you...so many of my friends and family are the same way. Because they would rather just belive what the mainstream media and headline news tell them..."it has to be true". And after all this..they feel so STRONGLY they know what they are talking about. its so disapointing.

[jeffmay1]

Wake up, it has nothing to do with what the "mainstream media and headline news tell them" they are actually called FACTS, so smarten up, stop listening to bs internet crap that you watch because you are bored

[lannijolie]

oh buddy you are so nieve.

[jeffmay1]

Haha, ya, you think so? About what exactly? That the gov't is out to get me? Should I go to sleep tonight or should I be hiring security to watch my door before the gov't comes and gets me in my sleep and takes me to a concentration camp?

[muzicmaker2001]

Don't you live in Canada?

[ed11561]

Also 2 of the hijackers listed as alive composed the flight 77 terrorists which would mean that there were only 3 hyjackers on board instead of 5.Not very likely

[devilzzzeye]

yh man ur absolutely rite

[truckingfool]

believe this because it is on you tube. what is the proof this is real?

[muzicmaker2001]

Al-Nami was identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 93. Al-Nami said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked."

[muzicmaker2001]

Saeed Alghamdi, was identified by the FBI of being a hijacker of Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania. Alghamdi was "shocked and furious" to learn this three days after the attack, noting that his name, place of residence, date of birth, and occupation matched those described by the FBI. "You cannot imagine what it is like to be described as a terrorist - and a dead man - when you are innocent and alive," said Alghamdi, who considered legal action against the FBI

[sibkiss2007]

We should demand that the 911 terrorist people who were found alive be interviewed on Oprah ladies!

[muzicmaker2001]

Question: Why have we stopped looking for Osama? Isn't he the real enemy behind 911? We are not looking for Osama, because he was used as a tool.

[ed11561]

Plus it has been said that Osama was killed in a bombing raid in Dec.2001.But if he is dead the war on Terror would slow significantly-not what Bush wants.

[fastfingersfunk]

LMAO, not one video of any of these guys? are you kidding? surely somebody in the "truth movement" would have traveled or been paid to have video tape. funny how you then go on to proclaim the actual evidence in any of this, videotape, which is "faked". well believe me if you ever found one of these persons on videotape to still be alive people will just say it's fake then. btw, it also says in islamic rule that you can't kill people, but i guess a gold ring is not that bad. LMAO.

[tiby93]

osama is left handed-WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!

[ed11561]

Well if he is in the video writing with his right hand then i guess it's not Osama admitting that he bombed the WTC's-it's someone else---DUUUHHHH!

[hend0815]

power of the media, 911 is still a fake !

usa´s government are the terrorists, fight for ressources!

[matticus12345]

FUCK BUSH!! Down with the government

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

They just closse d loose change guys account here too like 11 of my friend too.

[rurureturns]

We actually assume they are dead---- The Patsies weer used.

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

OSWALD was once patsy too when Fascism ruled in USA too