Thats not a fucking mosh pit.. Thats a bunch of people TRYING to do a wall of death - which should ONLY be used in heavy metal - and failing miserably.. Fuck!!!!
Being a hardcore/metal-core fan. I wanna go to one of these shows... AND FUCK SOME SHIT UP! This is pussy music. Don't insult metal with this pathetic excuse of a mosh.
@xMaTTyBoy1218x dubstep is influenced by a lot of metal so you can talk shit on it all you want lol and plus its a lot bigger then most the metal out there and i listen to metal also so its just everyone's taste in music no reason to talk shit on another genre..
@7861xx I'm not dissing the genre of dubstep. I'm dissing the fact that people are trying to act all cool moshing to dubstep. Its like saying how about we circle pit it to justin beiber? FUCK THAT!
@xMaTTyBoy1218x yeah i get what your saying there i have been to plenty of dubstep concerts and raves and yeah when i see people moshing to it i think its pretty stupid as well it's like i know its heavy bass music and some of the dubstep songs have heavy metal like synths but there;s no reason too lol.
makes sense tho, dubstep is like the heavy metal of electronic music... some dark, dungeon dubstep makes anyone wanna flail their arms and punch/kick shit till it dies...
or maybe everyone else is a just a cupcake =\
raving is about PLUR but you gotta love tunes that make u wanna rage
@swiz0L makes no sense at all. You mosh to Speedcore, Digital Hardcore, Drum & Bass and Breakcore. In a metal sense, moshing to dubstep is like moshing to Funeral, Shape Of Despair, Cathedral or Katatonia. They are all great, but it doesn't fit imo.
This is what you call moshing?!??? I love Dubstep music, but if you want to see moshing at it's finest, try typing "Korn Live" in the search bar.....might learn ya a little something. :)
anyone hating saying that's gay and shit like that... when you were there on the night on copius amounts of narcotics skanking your back off this was pretty dutty.... just charging at people with GSS rig blowing your brain off under a motor way bridge it was for from shit ;)
ive been to a Big Chocolate performance at Warped Tour and the dubstep moshing was insaneeee to that, as good as the metal moshing with the other bands performing there, it was so dope
The video's name is a little wrong yeah, but fuck, the guy said 'i want you to run at each other and DANCE', not fucking break eachothers noses like you snobbish metalheads seem to class as fun. It wasn't sposed to be a MOSH pit..
@abcjak1 Pretty ignorant of you to say that, we actually dont try to break eachothers noses, but a mosh pit is supposed to be violent, not this shit, it was supposed to be a wall of death, turned out pretty badly. You obviously odnt know what a mosh pit is.
i guess to the techno and Dubstep crowd jumping up and down is a mosh pit. but i guess thats what happens when you have musicians basic their entire genre around a single effect.
..... the mosh pits in my backyard are better then this1 .... but i have a big backyard =D. they just went wall of death into jumping like idiots..... they needed more space and not a real moshit... better luck next time.
fuck yeah I would have gotten involved.. just to show them how to mosh for real.. I would have broken noses -___-" I would love to see the pussy ass "moshers" at a Slayer show
Yea this happend yesterday .. sort off.... retards killing dubstep with mosh pits .... dubstep is not for mosh pits... go to a rock or metal concert but don't rape dubstep blah .. btw, everybody here says it's a shitty mosh pit... that's cause the music isn't made for it.
Wtf is this?! I've been in metal pits, as well as in dubstep pits. You can't compare the two, metal is very fast and energetic and dubstep is slower but you dance much more intensive. The only thing I know, is that this, thank god, isn't the standard for dubstep moshing. This is just a weak attempt...
Metalhead and Dubber here, that was fucking lame. I had a 20 man mosh with Big Chocolate at Vans Warped Tour in Las Vegas that was better than this shit.
WTF lmao? seriously i would like to see half of these people get into a pit at a metal show, punk show, ska show etc. where the dudes are fucken big get the shit knocked out of them
mosh pits at dubstep is dumb, you think that's moshing bring your weak crap to a death metal show and see who get there legs hyperextended and carried out
ahhhh good ol' fashioned moshing. yeah its at a dubstep show, and its not the best mosh pit ever, but its moshing nonetheless. hopefully we're bringing it back which would mean we can get rid of this "hardcore dancing" bullshit.
i think moshing might be ok for dubstep but wall of death...that seriously belongs in deathmetal, i know dubstep is hard and dirty but metal is hardcore intense AND fast...
all these people hating on it, at the end of the day it was a bit of fun at an illegal rave, you know for a fact you would all have got involved with it if you were there on the night!!
oh come on now, dub-step is based off of suspense and release (like trance if yah think about it... hmmm) anyways, metal is just straight pounding riffs with no tension, just insanity. who thought this was a good idea in the first place?
@YoshiExcel yaeh man ... upsetting to see dubstep fans never being in a wall of death and not running at the right time.. they couldnt even keep the pit going
@FiveFingerRainRap if people want mosh, let them mosh ;) i wanna know, how it is to mosh to dubstep... i was in many moshpits (metal) but i think metal is way harder :D
@FiveFingerRainRap *hehe* i think i know what do you mean ;D but there isn't only a moshpit, so you don't have to mosh ;) you can stay somewhere else and dance as you want ;)
@FiveFingerRainRap I wouldnt say white people ruined dubstep... i would say posh/students ruined dubstep, with the americans doing more than their fair bit as usual. I cant believe this happened in England. Its not that hard to skank and if you tried this at subdub you would get the shite kicked out of you
GO TO A REAL CONCERT jesus christ this isnt a pit
EEEEEEEEEEKSNERF 3 days ago
how gay is this! try moshing at slayer.. pussy`s!
Mindlessmiesje23 3 days ago
gay as fuck, let down by my hometown
DrChode94 4 days ago
They don't know how to mosh. But props to illegal raves like this, got to keep the scene alive.
lulzlizard 5 days ago
Lmao epic fail go search what mosh pit really is hahahaha
69Traviesa666 1 week ago
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Swetzor 1 week ago
@PrasinoXorton 1 word: DNB :D
wowdrali 1 week ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA watch the security just dissolve in that crowd!
wheelz545 1 week ago
bahahahahahahahahhaa fail im gonna go watch real mosh pits possy
iLecHe1 2 weeks ago
YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT MOSHPIT!!!!
martingretaxxx 2 weeks ago
@PrasinoXorton moshpit and heavy metal.... moshpit=beatdown hardcore, faggy hairbanging=heavy metal. fix'd it for ya
blkmrkt614 2 weeks ago
lololololololol
theyeatusdad 3 weeks ago
hey audience i know you thought you were coming to a rave but surprise were gonna have mosh class instead woo everyone loves school
ck675 3 weeks ago
hahaha pretty dumb, but those people were at each other's throats waiting for the drop
mglenwright09 4 weeks ago
that was gay as fuck..
gueroespino 1 month ago
that was epic nice vid
DotMapFile 1 month ago
@PrasinoXorton lol, slo-mosh xD
Walls of death work well for DnB though, Youtube this:
WALL OF DEATH - Noisia & Foreign Beggars - Shellshock
sephervin 1 month ago
this was at an illegal rave for f*ck sake, whats up with everyone bitching about it
djjonie 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 3
fucking fail!
mexio55 1 month ago
Wow way to (can't even call it a concert since its just a dj) try and do a wall of death to heavy bass and retarded sounds??
moto76dan 1 month ago
so fuckin gay
mariemychelle 1 month ago
Wtf
MrSpinswitch 1 month ago
WHAHAHA YOU CALL THIS A MOSHPIT!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
CryoTheDutchSmoke 1 month ago
ok...are you fucking trying to steal the tradition of metal,are you fucking insane!!!!!
Type in Korn-Blind live and you will see what a real mosh pit is...
musicalman354 1 month ago
@musicalman354 Lol korn....
EeccmanNL 1 month ago
Thats not a fucking mosh pit.. Thats a bunch of people TRYING to do a wall of death - which should ONLY be used in heavy metal - and failing miserably.. Fuck!!!!
LilithImmacualte 1 month ago
is this what its come to now? crap.
snowskatesnow 1 month ago
omg awful ;x
ClaudiaAndNicol 1 month ago
this aint no dubstep
cromlek 1 month ago
YOU THERE ! BACK BACK bawahahahaha funny
toshiroismine1863 1 month ago
wasn't even dubstep -.-
ganjaGirlxox 1 month ago
Being a hardcore/metal-core fan. I wanna go to one of these shows... AND FUCK SOME SHIT UP! This is pussy music. Don't insult metal with this pathetic excuse of a mosh.
xMaTTyBoy1218x 1 month ago
@xMaTTyBoy1218x dubstep is influenced by a lot of metal so you can talk shit on it all you want lol and plus its a lot bigger then most the metal out there and i listen to metal also so its just everyone's taste in music no reason to talk shit on another genre..
7861xx 1 month ago
@7861xx I'm not dissing the genre of dubstep. I'm dissing the fact that people are trying to act all cool moshing to dubstep. Its like saying how about we circle pit it to justin beiber? FUCK THAT!
xMaTTyBoy1218x 1 month ago
@xMaTTyBoy1218x yeah i get what your saying there i have been to plenty of dubstep concerts and raves and yeah when i see people moshing to it i think its pretty stupid as well it's like i know its heavy bass music and some of the dubstep songs have heavy metal like synths but there;s no reason too lol.
7861xx 1 month ago
That has to be one of the gayest fucking things i have ever seen in my life, i wouldn't even class this as any type or wall of death or pit.
Want to see a real pit type in Parkway Drive or Ghost inside, there will be one.
1SkateHome1 1 month ago 2
@1SkateHome1 Fuck yeah man. I would actually love to see one of these fags last 10 minutes in a parkway pit.
xMaTTyBoy1218x 1 month ago
@1SkateHome1 Walls of Death etc are all round gay anyway
VivalaKingofIsrael 4 days ago
@1SkateHome1 no. try looking up a band that has REAL pits. not that kicking throwing bullshit.
kepharttm93 23 hours ago
makes sense tho, dubstep is like the heavy metal of electronic music... some dark, dungeon dubstep makes anyone wanna flail their arms and punch/kick shit till it dies...
or maybe everyone else is a just a cupcake =\
raving is about PLUR but you gotta love tunes that make u wanna rage
muffler- heavy
cookie monsta- mosh pit
2 prime examples
swiz0L 2 months ago
@swiz0L makes no sense at all. You mosh to Speedcore, Digital Hardcore, Drum & Bass and Breakcore. In a metal sense, moshing to dubstep is like moshing to Funeral, Shape Of Despair, Cathedral or Katatonia. They are all great, but it doesn't fit imo.
djzardonic 2 months ago
@djzardonic i guess i feel u there...
swiz0L 1 month ago
@djzardonic i feel like you can mosh o all those... and dubstep, but its all opinion
swiz0L 1 month ago
metal is the shittiest kind of music.
derrickdmt 2 months ago
ok this makes no sense. moshing is for metal not shitty ass dubstep
lol3619 2 months ago
bouncing hipsters... the fuck is this shit
RenkoDees 2 months ago
@djzardonic it's fun though, you should try it ;) especially if you're drunk
stokventje 2 months ago
at dubstep concert if some one falls pick them up dont trample them
at mega deth concert run at each other dont care if some one falls
at slipknot concert trample every one until they die... i want to eat them
thewetarded 2 months ago
Wall of deaths are so shit if its not a metal gig.
EEluw 2 months ago 2
anyone dissing this rave can suck out ILLLLL nightt
XenophobeDubstep9 2 months ago
@djzardonic HAHAHA now that made me laugh :p But you're damn right
CageKiller1 2 months ago
@djzardonic Does it really matter that mosh pit wasn't meant for dubstep??
It feels so damn great to mosh to dubstep , try it ;)
JontsKolmTuhat 2 months ago
how the fuck do you mosh to that? :p
50gshady 2 months ago
I was here it was epic, but this was not a mosh pit
CheshireCatDubs 2 months ago
trash and moshipt at each show !
toxicosam 2 months ago
this is nothing!
Amberalto 2 months ago
i love the bass line
RootOfInfinity 2 months ago
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This is what you call moshing?!??? I love Dubstep music, but if you want to see moshing at it's finest, try typing "Korn Live" in the search bar.....might learn ya a little something. :)
LooRiginal1 2 months ago
Fail most, i've bene in enough good mosh pits to know that this is just like a orgy :L
Saltoric 2 months ago
it looked like a big sex orgy with dubstep in the backround
XXFRANCHOTXX 2 months ago
This is a moshpit
/watch?v=8P_czDjNByU&feature=related
olliemedsy 2 months ago
faggots lol
MrLiquidGalaxy 2 months ago
This 'moshpit' is pretty shitty actually?
gijz321 3 months ago
anyone hating saying that's gay and shit like that... when you were there on the night on copius amounts of narcotics skanking your back off this was pretty dutty.... just charging at people with GSS rig blowing your brain off under a motor way bridge it was for from shit ;)
thecamedupstudent1 3 months ago
lol
ghost10240 3 months ago
that is fucking gay
dallas2denton 3 months ago
These dubstep guys still far away from doing good mosh pits and wall of deaths like we metalheads. But keep up !
inflameskile 3 months ago 2
ive been to a Big Chocolate performance at Warped Tour and the dubstep moshing was insaneeee to that, as good as the metal moshing with the other bands performing there, it was so dope
hillcrestG 3 months ago
Debstep will never steal moshing from metal.
MetalMakesMeEargasm 3 months ago
camera microphone = bass-rape.
CubeBrad 3 months ago
siiiiiick
EatAcidd 3 months ago
1:39 FOR NARNIA!
voltagetunez 3 months ago
Rollerpaul. The whole thing is a fail
MaZeMuLiShA2 3 months ago
GDP. WTF did you just say. That is still fucking weak shit. I've seen better from Brad Paisley. Oh yeah. I'm violent when I trip not sluggish. Noob
MaZeMuLiShA2 3 months ago
HOLY SHIT THAT WAS GAY CHAVS HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO MOSH FAGS OMG SERIOUSLY THAT WAS PATHETIC
constantinehelmet 4 months ago
fail:)) at 1:14
rollerpaul14 4 months ago
wall of death not mosh pit....
lookoutitstyler 4 months ago
i hate swagga...
3METALover3 4 months ago
moshen doe je op metal!!! :s
boosterfreak90 4 months ago
fuckin epiccc loved itt they best do a halloween rave
ChRiSisAwSoMeSt 4 months ago
The video's name is a little wrong yeah, but fuck, the guy said 'i want you to run at each other and DANCE', not fucking break eachothers noses like you snobbish metalheads seem to class as fun. It wasn't sposed to be a MOSH pit..
abcjak1 4 months ago
@abcjak1 Pretty ignorant of you to say that, we actually dont try to break eachothers noses, but a mosh pit is supposed to be violent, not this shit, it was supposed to be a wall of death, turned out pretty badly. You obviously odnt know what a mosh pit is.
MetalReigns2 4 months ago
I love moshing, but this is gay.
BoltcutterCT 4 months ago
i hate the guy who always gets to serious in mosh pits..
TheGalvanize123 4 months ago
seems like a very brutal pit...
suicidalowl09 4 months ago
Funniest shit ever
jajackka 4 months ago
Definitely not the first Bro Step moshpit...
JOSHxMLG 4 months ago
AWESOME!
Dawg54bc 4 months ago
Leave the moshing to us metalheads please.
MetalReigns2 4 months ago
@MetalReigns2 Shut up, prick.
abcjak1 4 months ago
@abcjak1 No, its true, this was really weak, ever been in a mosh pit? Cause this is NOT a mosh pit.
MetalReigns2 4 months ago
Wall of Meth.
Yesiamblind 4 months ago
i guess to the techno and Dubstep crowd jumping up and down is a mosh pit. but i guess thats what happens when you have musicians basic their entire genre around a single effect.
keiskay 4 months ago
1:16 slow mo wall of death
IJayCee101 4 months ago 35
..... the mosh pits in my backyard are better then this1 .... but i have a big backyard =D. they just went wall of death into jumping like idiots..... they needed more space and not a real moshit... better luck next time.
mikillatja 4 months ago
@mikillatja trust bro i was there n it was not a mosh pit u tool
MCRDNBSALFORD 4 months ago
Hahahaha how do they even dare to call this a moshpit
bring6it6down6 4 months ago
fuck yeah I would have gotten involved.. just to show them how to mosh for real.. I would have broken noses -___-" I would love to see the pussy ass "moshers" at a Slayer show
freaksaul04 4 months ago
gay gay so fucking gay
szerobeat 4 months ago
so cash.
xXic3ys0ulXx 5 months ago
i was there! ;)
MCRDNBSALFORD 5 months ago
Yea this happend yesterday .. sort off.... retards killing dubstep with mosh pits .... dubstep is not for mosh pits... go to a rock or metal concert but don't rape dubstep blah .. btw, everybody here says it's a shitty mosh pit... that's cause the music isn't made for it.
TheNegAgeN 5 months ago
this is a weak mosh pit lol moshing to dnb or metal is way better
IronMaidenLord 5 months ago
omg
rubnes 5 months ago
Drop it hard
emechech123 5 months ago
If anyone falls down, pick them up, look after each other
jacktennesee 5 months ago
beast:)
HaZaRdNuCleArKiDz 5 months ago
wow. thats shit
knester21 5 months ago
@knester21 fuck oath
zaciboi 5 months ago
MOSH PITS ARE GAY! STOP THAT FAKE METAL SHIT!
SjokkoladeBolleMusa 6 months ago
@SjokkoladeBolleMusa lol somebody is mad...
demonman783 5 months ago
Wtf is this?! I've been in metal pits, as well as in dubstep pits. You can't compare the two, metal is very fast and energetic and dubstep is slower but you dance much more intensive. The only thing I know, is that this, thank god, isn't the standard for dubstep moshing. This is just a weak attempt...
TimGinger93 6 months ago
id be wreakin shit.
Destructionation911 6 months ago
for a dubstep show its a decent pit/wall of death but overall most of these guys wouldn't last in a metal pit
iPood2006 6 months ago
The fuck.....?
Metalhead and Dubber here, that was fucking lame. I had a 20 man mosh with Big Chocolate at Vans Warped Tour in Las Vegas that was better than this shit.
MichaelxDavid 6 months ago
lol the fuck?
ThreeTowerCity 6 months ago
that is MAD wens the next 1 on?? i want in lol
THEREALKSTEELEZ 6 months ago
fucking gay.
VoidVibe 6 months ago
it was a wall of death not a moshpit lmao
metalhedsm101 6 months ago
hahahahaha that sucks xD
CompleteDistortion 6 months ago
lmfao
Kyrindattara 7 months ago
WTF lmao? seriously i would like to see half of these people get into a pit at a metal show, punk show, ska show etc. where the dudes are fucken big get the shit knocked out of them
ninabby1891 7 months ago
@ninabby1891 i would want to see u @ metal concert's mosh pit.
tottis4real 6 months ago
The Wall of plur is more like it hahaha
RANDUMBChives 7 months ago
mosh pits at dubstep is dumb, you think that's moshing bring your weak crap to a death metal show and see who get there legs hyperextended and carried out
ptesls818 7 months ago
i was in a mosh pit 2day
drummerkareemovic 7 months ago
ahhhh good ol' fashioned moshing. yeah its at a dubstep show, and its not the best mosh pit ever, but its moshing nonetheless. hopefully we're bringing it back which would mean we can get rid of this "hardcore dancing" bullshit.
randomlimit27 7 months ago 11
@randomlimit27 I think I'll keep hardcore dancing just because you said that.
WOLFMANBASS920 3 months ago
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DrQlimakz 7 months ago
Anyone else miss PLUR?
Sabrehockeylw29 7 months ago
i think moshing might be ok for dubstep but wall of death...that seriously belongs in deathmetal, i know dubstep is hard and dirty but metal is hardcore intense AND fast...
amsscorpio 7 months ago
beginning looked like everyone was affraid 0.0
tomnr100 7 months ago
He clearly said go on the drop....fucking nooobssss
Sparr0wL2Dreams 7 months ago
put me in this fuckin pit & i bet they these fags wouldnt do it again!
cliffDhater1 7 months ago
WTF is this?!?!?! stop this madness! keep the wall of death for metal!
cliffDhater1 7 months ago
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NadriJanchek 8 months ago
I WAS HERE!
CruiserzProductions 8 months ago
all these people hating on it, at the end of the day it was a bit of fun at an illegal rave, you know for a fact you would all have got involved with it if you were there on the night!!
djjonie 8 months ago 20
@djjonie i wouldnt be seen there in the first place because dubstep is just pathetic when it tries to do metal things
kezdog96 4 months ago
oh come on now, dub-step is based off of suspense and release (like trance if yah think about it... hmmm) anyways, metal is just straight pounding riffs with no tension, just insanity. who thought this was a good idea in the first place?
killlagger468 8 months ago
Wall of Death at a dubstep show? Weird...
TheRoboticAssassin 8 months ago 69
@TheRoboticAssassin fuck off you emo
TheDailyCranks 6 months ago
@TheDailyCranks How am i emo?
TheRoboticAssassin 6 months ago
@TheRoboticAssassin we did it to Electro House bitch!
Digatalism 4 months ago
@Digatalism Cool story bro
TheRoboticAssassin 4 months ago
Eh, I guess moshpits belong to metal
metalgirl0 8 months ago 3
Guess I got my Swagger backk!
dbloom7106 8 months ago
that is a pretty shitty mosh pit -__-
slcmt2 8 months ago 42
Its funny to see all these noobs get instructions on how to do a wall of death LOL, its fuckin hilarious.
YoshiExcel 9 months ago
@YoshiExcel yaeh man ... upsetting to see dubstep fans never being in a wall of death and not running at the right time.. they couldnt even keep the pit going
conorisawsome 8 months ago
That's hardly a mosh tbh...
unless dubstep moshes are like that...
because if it's like metal moshes vs this, metal would kill it.
JaimacanBacon 9 months ago
@JaimacanBacon you cant compare metal mosh pits to dubstep mosh pits. thats like punks VS emo kids. just now fair.
slcmt2 8 months ago
dubstep is supposed to be dance music, not fucking heavy metal. Jesus. white people have officially ruined dubstep. what a suprise.
FiveFingerRainRap 9 months ago
@FiveFingerRainRap if people want mosh, let them mosh ;) i wanna know, how it is to mosh to dubstep... i was in many moshpits (metal) but i think metal is way harder :D
so don't cry ;)
NeverFailed666 9 months ago
@NeverFailed666 dubstep is dance music though. When I'm dancing, the last thing I want is some sweaty rocker bumping into me. It makes it shit.
FiveFingerRainRap 9 months ago
@FiveFingerRainRap *hehe* i think i know what do you mean ;D but there isn't only a moshpit, so you don't have to mosh ;) you can stay somewhere else and dance as you want ;)
NeverFailed666 9 months ago
@FiveFingerRainRap I wouldnt say white people ruined dubstep... i would say posh/students ruined dubstep, with the americans doing more than their fair bit as usual. I cant believe this happened in England. Its not that hard to skank and if you tried this at subdub you would get the shite kicked out of you
eoghainc 7 months ago
@FiveFingerRainRap
white people pretty much pioneered dubstep, not all white, but the majority of producers are..not sure what your talkin about here
bottle2lip 7 months ago
just jump to 1:30
JustWhatHappened 9 months ago
Someone should go to a taylor swift gig and start the wall of death, would be hilarious!
darkdemon6969 10 months ago
Wall of BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!
2442sheep 10 months ago
-.-
TheLineman73 10 months ago
dubstep wall of death? O.O EPIC
xXDannyDARKNESSXx 10 months ago
that shit is crazy id luv 2 do that.. FULLY SICK
1989treb 10 months ago
dubba jonny dj'ing?
xFiBREx 10 months ago
@xFiBREx No man, it was Jonny GASH from manchester :D
djjonie 10 months ago
@djjonie ahh right, i though Jonny gash is the guy in dubba jonny?
xFiBREx 10 months ago
@xFiBREx nah not that i know of anyway man :/
djjonie 10 months ago
@djjonie nooo, Jonny Gash is from Dubba Jonny.
ChuckNorrisDubstep 10 months ago
Jonny GASH is nothing to do with Dubba Jonny.
JonnyNeo 9 months ago
@xFiBREx Jonny Gash is the guy from Dubba Jonny, but they from Bournemouth
manufan481 7 months ago
@xFiBREx @djjonie Jonny gash is 1 half of dubba jonny the other is jonny the slut :)
HasteTV 6 months ago
@xFiBREx @djjonie i mean dubba the slut*
HasteTV 6 months ago
It isn't a first. I've been in one before... Still a cool video though.
DnBNemo 10 months ago