@hpaddyh You sir are a dumb fuck, what part of i'm done don't you understand, I already proved you wrong multiple times and i'm tired of repeating myself
@hpaddyh YES! The only reason everyone knows the 351 Windsor as a Windsor was because there are 3 351's and the name Windsor was to differ it from the other 2, everyone knows that except you of course. Now i am done arguing with you because obviously you can't teach the stupid and i haven't the time to sit and argue over a motor.
@hpaddyh Are you really that stupid, now im thinking your just some old geezer that has nothing better to do than get a rise out of people, It's right there on wiki and im not going to say it again, on the right of the page it lists all the windsor engines and also read the whole article this time. You just don't want to be embarrassed by people so you keep going on about your show me proof bullshit and when someone does you try and dodge it, and i don't have to watch shit, i talk how i talk
@hpaddyh Will you shut up about your retarded 90 degree bullshit family crap, the information is right there on wiki so LEARN to fucking read, the only one that's misinformed is you so stop coming on here thinking you know everything cause you don't so don't be mad just cause you got a 1st grade education and can't fucking read what is right in front of you. There is multiple people telling you that your wrong but only YOU think you are the only one who is right, THAT'S the definition of crazy
@jlpounds2001 I would bet that @hpaddyh had snorted too much starting fluid when he was a car washer @ the old Ford dealer in BFE. He's pissed because he never made it to the grease rack job.
@hpaddyh Sorry to break it to you but there is a Windsor family and the 221,255, 260, 289, 302 and 351w all belong to the Windsor family, again Ford never classified their engines as small nor big block, they put them into families so you should do some more research like cannonfire suggested, go to wikipedia and type in ford windsor engine and read the link very carefully and stop being retarded as it clearly says it right there
@hpaddyh Sorry to break it to you but there is a Windsor family and the 221,255, 260, 289, 302 and 351w all belong to the Windsor family, again Ford never classified their engines as small nor big block, they put them into families so you should do some more research like cannonfire suggested, go to wikipedia and type in ford windsor engine and read the link very carefully and stop being retarded as it clearly says it right there
Sorry to break it to you but there is a Windsor family and the 221,255, 260, 289, 302 and 351w all belong to the Windsor family, again Ford never classified their engines as small nor big block, they put them into families so you should do some more research like cannonfire suggested, go to wikipedia and type in ford windsor engine and read the link very carefully and stop being retarded as it clearly says it right there
@hpaddyh Here we have another ford know-it-all. All small blocks are know as "windsor" engines. The 351-W was based off the 302. Clevland was nowhere near race ready. Try reading some books on Ford V-8 engines & not listening to your friends who know nothing about cars yet play pac-man day n night!
@cannonfirexm Hpaddyh, my response is above. As jlpounds200 has also stated...you are wrong.
Maybe you are serious or just playing a game. BTW...I am sure Mr. Vermersch (Total Performance) could set you straight if you had the gonads to call. Enjoy your day.
@hpaddyh the 302 and 289 are all Windsors they are made in the Windsor motor plant thats y they are called Windsors. the 351 Cleveland is only a Cleveland bc its made in Cleveland ohio. the only difference between a Cleveland and a Windsor is the heads, the Cleveland has a better flowing head thats it.
A 302 is a Windsor sorry to say, yes the 351 is taller and wider but the 302 is part of the Windsor family and so is the 289, they may be 90 degree V-blocks but they belong to the Windsor family
@jrfreak56 it wasn't to bad probly took about 2 months of workin on the weekends and not really workin very fast on it but its gettin a 347 stroker motor put in it some time within the next year
@bshort09 hell yeah dude that should kick ass im looking to put a bigger motor in my 85 ranger 4x4 got a lil 6 banger in it now dont do to awful bad but could do better with a lil more power
I would like to clear everything up here if i could. Ford made engine families which were the Windsor family which consisted of the 289, 302, and 351 Windsor, so these are all considered Windsors. The 335 family which were the 351 Cleveland, 351 Modified and the 400. Than the FE (Ford-Edsel) there were quite a few in this series and than the 385 family which were the 429 and 460. So all in all the 302 is a Windsor
i made them i took some angle iron and made a box and welded it where i wanted the engine to set drilled a hole in the middle then i took the top mounts from the 1988 crown vic or you can buy some for like $100 but i didn't want to spend the money or wait on them
ALOT OF FABRICATION,and patience.. custom motor mounts and trans,crossmember, and a custom driveshaft. if your really looking for info, than MOOG makes a kit, its about $1300
or you can make the mounts yourslef and i used my old driveshaft back i spent 300 total and that was with a gasket kit just have to figure stuff out as you go
All box Panther chassis Fords (1979-1990 Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Towncars) used the 302 (except for the disastrous 255 up 'til '83) as the only engine option. EXCEPT for the Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. The 351W was optional up until '83, in 84 it became standard in all US PI cars, and was optional in Canada. So unless the guy got a P72 (Police InterceptorI) or it's a Canadian car with an optional 351W, it's a 302.
I own a 1986 2.0 ranger regular cab short box. I love it to death! I was considering beefing up the 4 cylinder rather then dropping a small block in it due to the price of gas these days.
lol yea i threw it out the door lol no i got the truck for $100 it had a 2.0 with a blown head gasket and i could have fixed it for 50 but i heard of someone local who just drove there 1988 crown vic into a lake lol so they gave me the car for what ever i wanted and i pulled the engine rebuilt it and put it in total cost of the project for me was $300 but now probly 700 since i bout a 5 speed manual for it but i love it just gotta pay a little more for gas lol
Nice. I also got a 88 ranger that I plan on putting a 5.0 in at some time. check out my video if you want... its still got the stock 2.9 in it but I chopped the exhaust and made some modifications to it.
@hpaddyh More like if you need to know anymore on the Windsor family you let me know. You too have a good day!!
jlpounds2001 10 months ago 9
@hpaddyh You sir are a dumb fuck, what part of i'm done don't you understand, I already proved you wrong multiple times and i'm tired of repeating myself
jlpounds2001 10 months ago 15
@hpaddyh YES! The only reason everyone knows the 351 Windsor as a Windsor was because there are 3 351's and the name Windsor was to differ it from the other 2, everyone knows that except you of course. Now i am done arguing with you because obviously you can't teach the stupid and i haven't the time to sit and argue over a motor.
jlpounds2001 10 months ago 14
@hpaddyh Are you really that stupid, now im thinking your just some old geezer that has nothing better to do than get a rise out of people, It's right there on wiki and im not going to say it again, on the right of the page it lists all the windsor engines and also read the whole article this time. You just don't want to be embarrassed by people so you keep going on about your show me proof bullshit and when someone does you try and dodge it, and i don't have to watch shit, i talk how i talk
jlpounds2001 10 months ago 11
@hpaddyh Will you shut up about your retarded 90 degree bullshit family crap, the information is right there on wiki so LEARN to fucking read, the only one that's misinformed is you so stop coming on here thinking you know everything cause you don't so don't be mad just cause you got a 1st grade education and can't fucking read what is right in front of you. There is multiple people telling you that your wrong but only YOU think you are the only one who is right, THAT'S the definition of crazy
jlpounds2001 10 months ago 18
@jlpounds2001 I would bet that @hpaddyh had snorted too much starting fluid when he was a car washer @ the old Ford dealer in BFE. He's pissed because he never made it to the grease rack job.
cannonfirexm 10 months ago 11
@cannonfirexm That sounds about right lol
jlpounds2001 10 months ago 3
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@hpaddyh Sorry to break it to you but there is a Windsor family and the 221,255, 260, 289, 302 and 351w all belong to the Windsor family, again Ford never classified their engines as small nor big block, they put them into families so you should do some more research like cannonfire suggested, go to wikipedia and type in ford windsor engine and read the link very carefully and stop being retarded as it clearly says it right there
jlpounds2001 11 months ago
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@hpaddyh Sorry to break it to you but there is a Windsor family and the 221,255, 260, 289, 302 and 351w all belong to the Windsor family, again Ford never classified their engines as small nor big block, they put them into families so you should do some more research like cannonfire suggested, go to wikipedia and type in ford windsor engine and read the link very carefully and stop being retarded as it clearly says it right there
jlpounds2001 11 months ago
Sorry to break it to you but there is a Windsor family and the 221,255, 260, 289, 302 and 351w all belong to the Windsor family, again Ford never classified their engines as small nor big block, they put them into families so you should do some more research like cannonfire suggested, go to wikipedia and type in ford windsor engine and read the link very carefully and stop being retarded as it clearly says it right there
jlpounds2001 11 months ago 4
@hpaddyh Also the 4V head was the same as the stock 351-W head...again read some ford books.
cannonfirexm 11 months ago
@hpaddyh Here we have another ford know-it-all. All small blocks are know as "windsor" engines. The 351-W was based off the 302. Clevland was nowhere near race ready. Try reading some books on Ford V-8 engines & not listening to your friends who know nothing about cars yet play pac-man day n night!
cannonfirexm 11 months ago
@cannonfirexm I am no Ford expert. I do work on and have many tech books about small block Ford powertrains. As a mule is stubborn, so are you.
Try these books out for a good read, then you can admit to being WRONG.
SA Design Books- High Performance Ford Engine Parts OInterchange-George Reid
" "-How to rebuild the Small Block Ford. -George Reid
HP Books-FORD WINDSOR SMALL BLOCK PERFORMANCE-Issac Martin
Still in doubt call? Call John Vermersch in Clinton Twp. MI.
cannonfirexm 10 months ago 11
@cannonfirexm Hpaddyh, my response is above. As jlpounds200 has also stated...you are wrong.
Maybe you are serious or just playing a game. BTW...I am sure Mr. Vermersch (Total Performance) could set you straight if you had the gonads to call. Enjoy your day.
cannonfirexm 10 months ago 4
@hpaddyh the 302 and 289 are all Windsors they are made in the Windsor motor plant thats y they are called Windsors. the 351 Cleveland is only a Cleveland bc its made in Cleveland ohio. the only difference between a Cleveland and a Windsor is the heads, the Cleveland has a better flowing head thats it.
jesseotta136 1 year ago
free advertisement for Summit lol
turfguy87 1 year ago
where does that hose go to from the distributor and ??? i'm rebuilding my 302 ci but i'm not sure where does that hose go to. please respond.
jasonman1515 1 year ago
@jasonman1515 its the vacum advance theres a little place on the side of the carburator for it
bshort09 1 year ago
A 302 is a Windsor sorry to say, yes the 351 is taller and wider but the 302 is part of the Windsor family and so is the 289, they may be 90 degree V-blocks but they belong to the Windsor family
jlpounds2001 1 year ago 2
4x4?
VanDub 1 year ago
@VanDub nope its harder to do the swap with a 4x4 but its still possible though
bshort09 1 year ago
was this a long process?
jrfreak56 1 year ago
@jrfreak56 it wasn't to bad probly took about 2 months of workin on the weekends and not really workin very fast on it but its gettin a 347 stroker motor put in it some time within the next year
bshort09 1 year ago
@bshort09 hell yeah dude that should kick ass im looking to put a bigger motor in my 85 ranger 4x4 got a lil 6 banger in it now dont do to awful bad but could do better with a lil more power
jrfreak56 8 months ago
I would like to clear everything up here if i could. Ford made engine families which were the Windsor family which consisted of the 289, 302, and 351 Windsor, so these are all considered Windsors. The 335 family which were the 351 Cleveland, 351 Modified and the 400. Than the FE (Ford-Edsel) there were quite a few in this series and than the 385 family which were the 429 and 460. So all in all the 302 is a Windsor
jlpounds2001 1 year ago 3
@jlpounds2001 - You forgot the 221, and 260 Windsor motors which were Fords first V8's in the Windsor Family. Also the 390W...
JayGeePee1 1 year ago
@JayGeePee1 Yeah i know i was just using the most common ones
jlpounds2001 1 year ago
what kind of mods did you have to do for this to work??
nolanmontess87 2 years ago
whats easier to do convert an s-10 to a v8 or a ranger to a v8, i hear s-10s are eaiser but i want to do it to a ranger
bronco302EFI 2 years ago
thats whats up v8 rangers rock!!!! come take a peek at mine 5outa 5!
1doubbled1 2 years ago
thanks on the tip awsome truck
2323camaro 2 years ago
what engine mounts did you use
2323camaro 2 years ago
i made them i took some angle iron and made a box and welded it where i wanted the engine to set drilled a hole in the middle then i took the top mounts from the 1988 crown vic or you can buy some for like $100 but i didn't want to spend the money or wait on them
bshort09 2 years ago
actualy the intake was free along with everything
bshort09 2 years ago
thats just a basic 302,,windsor never produced a 302 so it just has a dress up kit on it, but its not bad for a ford<:)
donutthrowinbdass 2 years ago 2
How hard is it to switch it over to a 302
jb15deer 2 years ago
ALOT OF FABRICATION,and patience.. custom motor mounts and trans,crossmember, and a custom driveshaft. if your really looking for info, than MOOG makes a kit, its about $1300
donutthrowinbdass 2 years ago
or you can make the mounts yourslef and i used my old driveshaft back i spent 300 total and that was with a gasket kit just have to figure stuff out as you go
bshort09 2 years ago
ok thanks
jb15deer 2 years ago
Oh and by the way, my hat's off to you for that swap, it looks good! :)
streetraceme2k6 2 years ago
Hey, all-knowing-retards, it's "Windsor" not "winsor". Google that shit.
If you are going to spout your knowledge about the motor, spell it right.
streetraceme2k6 2 years ago
well if your so smart than you would know that (windsor) never maid a 302 so eat shit and get an education FUCKTARD!!!.
donutthrowinbdass 2 years ago
All box Panther chassis Fords (1979-1990 Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Towncars) used the 302 (except for the disastrous 255 up 'til '83) as the only engine option. EXCEPT for the Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. The 351W was optional up until '83, in 84 it became standard in all US PI cars, and was optional in Canada. So unless the guy got a P72 (Police InterceptorI) or it's a Canadian car with an optional 351W, it's a 302.
To clarify:
Civi Crown Vic: 302
PI Crown Vic: 351
grandpaslincoln 2 years ago
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grandpaslincoln 2 years ago
The only problem I see is that a winsor 351 not a 302. You might wana change the title of the vid if you have a 302 5.0 not a 351 5.8.
rippedwarrior69 3 years ago
uh no its titled right winsor made 289s 302s and 351s
bshort09 3 years ago
Heh, I get that all the time. Some kids even argue about it.
WindsorFox 3 years ago
yeah a 302 is a winsor. check out my vid 302 e303 burnout
beentryin 3 years ago
hey dipshit winsor never made a 302 they made the 351 winsor so get an education
Echosrm230 2 years ago
umm yes the 302 is in the windsor family.research before you bark
beentryin 2 years ago 2
you idiot, they used the same motors in their mustangs, you fuckstick.,
halflife103 2 years ago
yea, there was the 351 cleveland, and 351 winsor
Blue04SRT4 2 years ago
DAM that sound so good when you rev it!
I own a 1986 2.0 ranger regular cab short box. I love it to death! I was considering beefing up the 4 cylinder rather then dropping a small block in it due to the price of gas these days.
Have you ever worked on the 2.0 engine before?
MattDJ2 3 years ago
lol yea i threw it out the door lol no i got the truck for $100 it had a 2.0 with a blown head gasket and i could have fixed it for 50 but i heard of someone local who just drove there 1988 crown vic into a lake lol so they gave me the car for what ever i wanted and i pulled the engine rebuilt it and put it in total cost of the project for me was $300 but now probly 700 since i bout a 5 speed manual for it but i love it just gotta pay a little more for gas lol
bshort09 3 years ago
Nice. I also got a 88 ranger that I plan on putting a 5.0 in at some time. check out my video if you want... its still got the stock 2.9 in it but I chopped the exhaust and made some modifications to it.
Dieselsmoke250 4 years ago