Royce Da 5'9" - Stay In Your Place (Prod. by DR. DRE) (Unreleased)

[AjayDilla264]

royce wayyyyy better on dilla beats

[RobsenSTiDDA]

@AjayDilla264 Yeah, you're right

[QueUntouchable]

This is not Dre!!!

[LXKeemProductions]

EXCLUSIVE!

Dr.Dre feat. Al Green - Strong (2011)

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[Cella81991]

I like Royce but i would like to know why he uses eminems flow so much, i mean even now he raps like Em.

[stonekapolo]

@Cella81991its the other way around.

[Loyalty1269]

@Cella81991 royce always had his own flow dude. em and royce are basically the same type of rapper, but completely different in many ways. they started the game together so its natural they would sound similar. both detroit rappers who came in the game the same time. Royce is his own man though

[jingatucoolo]

@Cella81991 What the balls are you talking about. royce using em's flow. why dont you listen to royces verse in renegade and then listen to em's verse in dead wrong. now keep in mind renegade was made first. do that and then come talk to me.... no before you run your mouth i have nothing against eminem . im a big fan probably bigger than you . it just your comment sparked some interest in me. so i gave you my 2 cents.

[quiksix25]

Haha- this SUCKS!!! Beat is pretty wack too- shoulda stayed unreleased

[aroundtheworlda]

This shit bangs

[MrUnknownnigga]

yo dat ain no dre beat g

[FuUzZeR]

Not Dre.

[Iansback]

Beat sounds like Dick Riding Obama from the Boondocks

[siwooot]

yeah the beat sucks for a dre production but keep in mind the song is unfinished and when i uploaded this i didn't upload it in the highest quality either

[forkster187]

Beat sucks for a Dr. Dre production

[WhiteOutGotU]

EminemBase, Eminem learned how to produce from Dr. Dre. They both (for the most part) use all live instrumentation. "Chronic"-era Dre definitely did a lot of sampling, but check the credits for "2001" - no samples (not according to Wiki, anyways.) Nowadays if Dre wants to "steal other people's melodies" he will interpolate them instead of sample. Whatever. Dre is the greatest. Em has become one of the best.

[siwooot]

@WhiteOutGotU nah 2001 did have samples, but some douchebag deleted the list of samples from that wiki page. dre used interpolations on 2001 too, but i've seen eminem has done the same, if you listen to the beat for Marshall Mathers it sounds very similar to a tune from the song "here with me" by Dido, but coz it was interpolated they could get away with it. thats the reason they interpolate so help get away without crediting samples

[WhiteOutGotU]

@siwooot i hear ya, but, like samples, interpolations require credit to the original composer as well....with that being said, samples (and most likely interpolations) require a certain amount of notes (or length, i forget at the moment) to require credit

[siwooot]

@WhiteOutGotU yeah me too, i actually like most sampled beats more than beats that don't use samples.

[spongebobdrunkpants]

@WhiteOutGotU

Are you serious there are so many songs on 2001 that are direct samples from other songs. 

[djfoolio]

man u guys argue too fuckin much. if the beat is hard, bump that shit. period.

[luvdagras]

STILL DRE

Thats the ((((d(O_O)b))))

[EminemBase]

Em and Royce should be the two rap kings until they're finished.

50 Doesn't deserve his place next to Em at the top. He never did. He's fucking shit.

And Dre gets way too much credit. Two solo albums, gets full production credits for co-productions, writes none of his lyrics.

Royce should be fucking huge.

[BIGMDV]

@EminemBase For me 50 isn't so bad ,but for the rest i have your some opinions

[EminemBase]

50 used to be not so bad.

Like... Well, Power of the Dollar was great. Get Rich was good - His lyricism was never great but his dark ghetto hooks brought something new.

But everything after that has been trash bar a few songs here and there and now he's just a joke. His lyricism is awful and he has no flow, it's just one long slur of mumbling. Or lately, a bitten Em 3am flow.

[siwooot]

about that "bitten Em 3am flow", i've been wondering about that coz some 50 songs sound a lot like eminem, i've been thinking maybe that's because Eminem ghostwrote those songs, like when he ghostwrites a song for dre, dre raps a bit like eminem, and another song 50 is rappping with a southern accent, maybe that was ghostwritten by a southern rapper. as for dre's co-productions, i'm not sure if he's getting undeserved credit, but when he co-produces his name goes 2nd in the credits

[WRECKSHOP562]

@EminemBase

"Em and Royce should be the two rap kings until they're finished." WHY???? You're giving Royce wayyy too much credit.

"And Dre gets way too much credit. Two solo albums, gets full production credits for co-productions, writes none of his lyrics."

WTF? Dre's 20 years in the game speaks volumes. It's not a coincidence that his production are classics if his name is attached to it

Dre is not an MC and he doesn't claim to be one.

[EminemBase]

Firstly about Royce, no I'm not giving him too much credit.

Everyone agrees the original "Renegades" song him and Em did shits all over the re-worked one with Jay-Z. Everyone sucks off Jay-Z but Royce is 10 times better lyricist.

About Dre, you say "in the game 20 years". No, he just hasn't quit for 20 years. Being 'in the game' for 20 years is making music for that long, consistently.

Dre put out an album in 92, then one in 99 and now Detox in 2010. That's three solo albums in 18 years.

[EminemBase]

With a 7 year gap between 1st and 2nd and an 11 year gap between 2nd and 3rd. That's hardly consistent and relevant.

All the lyrics he gets written for him brag about how he's been on top for this long, no he just makes something then does nothing for years and pops up on the odd Eminem song.

If Em made an album every decade, I wouldn't try and claim he's relevant and consistent.

Aside from those three solo albums Dre has produced a few 50 tracks and a few Em tracks.

[EminemBase]

But all of Em's best tracks Em produced and Em has done more than Dre - Producing not only a lot of 50 but also 2 Obie Trice albums.

[siwooot]

em has done more than dre? hahahahha

1987-91 - World Class Wreckin Cru albums (dre's 1st roup), 2 NWA albums, 1 NWA EP, produced ALL of DOC's album, most of Michel'le's album, plus a shit load more albums and songs he produced,

92-96 - Solo album, started own label, produced ALL of snoop's 1st album, produced more songs on other compilations, recorded his 2nd solo album which is unreleased, plus most of the albums he worked on all went multi platinum. then started new label, plus 2001 album

[siwooot]

then he produced songs for eminem's SSLP, produced half of MMLP, and a shit load more songs, executive producer of Xzibit's album, all of eminem's relapse album lol you still want me to go on? in other words he's done a lot in hip hop and more than Eminem. Dre is more a producer than a rapper too.

[StartingGanjaGrower]

@siwooot woooord!!!! you know dre was kickin that real old skool gangsta shit back in the days. but he fell off like almost everybody else

[EminemBase]

Okay please do not give me the run down on what Dre's done. I know fucking everything he has done. I wouldn't make a statement like that if I didn't know.

Dre has produced more tracks since he's been around longer but by 'done more' I mean done more worthy things that have made a mark.

Firstly you can't just say 92-96 solo album lmao. No it got released in 92 then he had 7 dead years.

[EminemBase]

Eminem 99 - Slim Shady LP, then a YEAR after did The Marshall Mathers LP then two after that The Eminem Show - Three straight classics in a row.

Also Em produced SSLP himself with the Bass Bros, did most of the good work on MMLP (The Way I Am etc.) - Produced all of The Eminem Show himself, half of Encore two years later.

He also did a lot of work on both 50 cent's first two - Two D12 albums, two Obie Trice albums.

[EminemBase]

See all that shit, compared to what now two solos from Dre and two NWA's he did back in the 80's. Yeah, wow.

[siwooot]

that's because Dre isn't a rapper, he's more of a producer like i said, that's why he doesn't make albums, he even cancled detox in 05 because he wanted to concentrate on producing for the artists on his label. and i wouldn't call those obie trice albums something that have "made a mark" as you put. Eminem produced 2 songs on GRODT, and 3 on his next album, i wouldn't call that "a lot for 50" as you put. my point of dre's unreleased album is that there was a reason for the 7 year gap

[siwooot]

Dre not only produced more songs for GRODT, 3 of the songs he did were the 3 lead singles, "in Da Club, If I Can't, P.I.M.P, not to mention the lead singles for Eve, Mary J Blige & Xzibit, plus Busta Rhymes on two different albums, and still even more

[EminemBase]

Yeah but you say he's more of producer, that 7 year gap, he hardly did fuck all. And hardly anything that made a mark.

And this 11 year gap between chronic 2 and detox he's hardly done fuck all either. Even 2pac said dre is slow as fuck.

Also he didnt produced PIMP, mr porter did. Dre's beats are bland, he does the same shit everytime.

"The Way I Am" is easily more memorable, atmospheric, cool and original than any dre beat.

[siwooot]

yeah i admit his beats after the 2001 album got bland and repetitive, same thing between the chronic and 2001, maybe one day they'll release his second album, from what i hear it was his best work.

[ioajfoafa]

@EminemBase The Way I Am is an alright beat but most of Eminem's recent stuff has been really bland, i like the beats on SSLP and MMLP but after that Eminem's beats suck, bland as hell, you can't say eminem's beats are more original than the guy that invented G-Funk, his beats invented a genre, how much more original can you get?

[siwooot]

lol true ioajfoafa

[EminemBase]

'The Way I Am' - Alright? Lmao it's a fucking beautifully layered, textured beat.

How did his beats on THE EMINEM SHOW suck?

White America, Cleanin' Out My Closet, Square Dance, Soldier, Till I Collapse, you think those are BLAND? what the fuck are you listening to.

Yes I am saying they're all more original than any of Dre's. Dre just combines things, Em starts with original melodies from his head.

[ioajfoafa]

his beats are repetitive, he just uses heavy baselines and drums on some of them so idiots think that makes it good. you sound like you wanna suck eminems dick or something. all those songs you named are bland as fuck especially Till I Collapse, one good beat Eminem did do on that album was Drips. but the ones you named are nothing special.

[EminemBase]

Lmaoo, you've just described dre's beats you dick. Dre uses heavy beaslines and drums and all his bats are the fucking same.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about as Em doesn't use heavy baselines he uses pianos and strings and keyboards.

Lose Yourself? NOthing special? LMFAO. You idiot.

[ioajfoafa]

eminem does use heavy baselines, haven't you heard the beat for Renegades? the beat for "We Ain't" on the games album? i said the beats you named were nothing special i didn't say anytyhing about Lose Yourself (probably one of ems best but still not better than dre's best)

[EminemBase]

Lose Yourself and The Way I Am are both much better and Square Dance than anything dre has ever done.

Original melodies from Em's head transformed into beautifully layered, textured beats.

Where as Dre usually just samples somebody elses shit or about 3-5 songs, mixes them all and slams huge drums on it.

[kanarvin]

Dre doesnt sample that much, he is gifted in a way that he can make his own melodies..

[EminemBase]

Lmao you really don't know much about Dre then.

All NWA albums and his first two albums sampled like fuck.

Eminem creates original beats from melodies in his head. Dre has musicians randomly come up with stuff then he puts it all together OR - Usually, he sampels.

[kanarvin]

Im AWARE that Dre uses samples. Im saying i know alot of tracks he's made where he constructs the melody himself..

[siwooot]

EVERYBODY samples, every producer in all of hip hop samples, maybe not for every song, and just because they sample doesn't mean it isn't good. DJ Premier is my fave producer and all his beats are samples but he recreates it in a dope way. even eminem has sampled and i'm sure you're aware almost all eminem's songs are co-produced by the Bass Brothers or F.B.T Eminem's production team.

[ioajfoafa]

lol maybe to you but to me dre's beat are better, and eminem uses F.B.T to produce all his songs with him, notice Eminem's name goes second on the tracklisting to F.B.T? that's because the CO-producer goes 2nd on the tracklisting, so Eminem only co-produced most of his tracks. and Eminem has used lots of samples as well, sampling is a big part of hip hop and real hip hop head knows that.

[EminemBase]

Firstly no FBT are just his musicians (The Bass Bros) who play out the melodies he has.

Dre for example, uses an entire team of musicians, gets them to randomly come up with stuff, then puts it together. And gets full credit.

Eminem, thinks of a melody (Lose Yourself, The Way I Am) - Hums it out to the Bass Bros, they play out the melody he hums, then he puts it all together.

So it's all from his head, only difference is, he can't play the instruments.

[EminemBase]

He doesn't sample a lot either.

The only time he samples is when he uses the chorus of that sample and re-works the song to create something new out of it (Stan, Sing for the Moment, Like Toy Soldiers etc.)

But 90% of h is shit is all original. With Dre it's reverse. Take crack a bottle for example - That entire melody is just ripped, dre didnt create that - its an old melody by a french panist, he js touched it up and added drums and ppl think he made it.

[siwooot]

the entire beat for Stan was a sample and eminem only co-produced it, maybe that means he heard the sample and told the bass brothers to sample it for him so that gives him co-producer credit. same thing with Sing For The Moment its not only the chorus that was sampled, the guitar etc were all sampled to make the beat, i think even the drums were sampled too, so that melody didn't come from eminems head like you say, probably the case with the others too.

[ioajfoafa]

nah it wasn't just the chorus that was used as the samples, the whole tune of stan, like toy soldiers and sing for the moment were from samples, ALL OF IT, maybe you're not familiar with sampling? see in the toy soldiers beat Eminem (or F.B.T?) speed up the keyboard sample, all they did was add the soldier drums over the sped up keys it didn't come from eminems head. every producer samples, that's just part of hip hop.

[EminemBase]

No what I mean is you turd, he only ever usually samples when he's GOING TO USE and re-work the chorus.

Stan, Sing for the Moment, Toy Soldiers = All original choruses and he re-works their meaning.

There's a reason for the sampling. But pick any original Em song and you get an original Em melody:

White America, Cleaning out my closet, Square Dance, Soldier, Without Me etc.

[siwooot]

lol oh god, everyone re-works the meaning of the chorus when they sample it, that's nothing special, and there's nothing special about humming a song and getting your team to make a beat from it. check out DJ Premier's beats, he used like 5 different samples and cuts them together to make a chorus.

[EminemBase]

You're missing the point. I wasn't emphasizing that Em re-works choruses when he samples as if to claim it's special.

My point was, he ONLY samples when he does that. He only samples when he needs to, when there's a reason to because he needs or wants the chorus to re-work it.

Where as Dre just samples all over the fucking place.

Eminem creates original melodies from his head.

[siwooot]

who cares, eminem hums a tune from his very own head, then gets his team to make the beat? wow who cares, eminem samples only when he needs the chorus? then how come he didn't use the chorus when he sampled for the song Beautiful? not that it even matters, dre uses samples? who cares.

[EminemBase]

I care because it makes him a better producer.

Lose Yourself and Cleaning Out My Closet are totally original, unique melodies from his head.

Which he then hummed out, got made and built upon. Turned them into rich, texctured beats.

Dre just steals other people's melodies and slams drums on them. He's bland and boring.

[siwooot]

no eminems ability to hum and then get people to make a beat from it don't make him a better producer at all let alone a good producer. idk why you praise lose yourself and cleaning out my closet as being "unique" and "rich in texture", they're not that unique at all, maybe dre's beats are boring to you but not to me. not his older stuff anyway.

[chriscullane88]

@ eminem base, eminem didnt produce lose urself on his own. or cleanin out my closet. and 90% of hip hop beats contain a sample.

[EminemBase]

@chriscullane88 Yes he did. He worked with Jeff Bass and L. Resto respectively but that's just because he doesn't play the instruments.

He hums the melodies to them and they play them out then he produces and mixes it.

They're totally his beats. And 90% is totally in inaccurate, it's an out of the sky assumption. They USED to but more and more are creating originally now.

And even if that were absolutely true so what. Original is still better, more impressive and a better achievement.

[EminemBase]

@chriscullane88 90% of Americans (although probably false too, people lie to polls) Still believe in a god of some sort.

But does that make it logical more true, no. Upto 85% of other countries do not. The old 'numbers' argument is meaningless.

The majority of people in X time used to thing racism is right... So what. Doesn't mean it is lmao.

Creating a beat from your head, from nothing, is much better than sampling other beats.

[omgnoob4life]

in ur opinion

[Henrydaddy69]

@EminemBase Dre steals melodies lol? He samples SOME and makes them sound better than before. Check out OG's Theme, Topless, Imagine, Been Through the Storm, No Stoppin Carson, Hallelujah, Say Dr. Dre, Grow Up, Send a Nigga Home, Any 50 cent track produced by him, then come back and tell me he steals melodies.

[siwooot]

LOL i wish i could hum some random tune and get my team to do all the work for me lol i don't see how you can say what eminem does is any better than dre. and you don't know if thats the only thing dre does.

[CT2kX]

dre has been sitting in his studios working hella hard for the past 10 years working on this detox and producing your beloved eminem (amongst alot fo other things), if it wasnt for dre, you wouldnt have eminem, stop tryna look the smart guy on youtube and just enjoy the music, dre is a legend you cant deny it, all this "whos done more" crap is bullshit too, you cant see what going on behind the scenes, i mean dre has recorded over 400 tracks while workin on detox, you just havnt heard about them

[spandexbboy]

more things that made a worthy mark? not including his own albums he did the entire Eazy Duz it album No One Can Do It Better album Doggystyle album all legendary classics, how many ENTIRE classic albums did Eminem produce? none. and please don't say obie trices album was a classic, they're not on the same level

[siwooot]

Dre is getting old now man, so of course he's not gonna be doing as much in hip hop. two of his albums "Helter Skelter" and "The Chronic 2: Pappa's Gotta Brand New Funk" are unreleased due to all the shit that happened at Death Row. Dre has been putting out albums and producing since 1987, its now 2009 and he's still putting songs, that's over 20 years he's been in hip hop. in between his two albums he also produced a lot of songs and made a lot of appearances, not to mention starting his label

[siwooot]

i see you write that comment everywhere spammer

[sem3ability]

fuck off with the beast, you post it on every video i watch

[PeterH4522]

PRODUCED BY DRE?

[siwooot]

the audio is low quality and not a finished track

[AROnE87]

its ok (if came out in 97),i heard better beats from a fruity loops demo.

[siwooot]

well it probably was made in 97 or 98, i think its alright

[Albaliveforlife]

i'm sorry but i don't like this is not rap old

[kaylissjontaye]

thats what i thought...after

all isnt he director of aftermath records?????

and again i stil reckon if this song was properly finished it wouldnt be on chronic...where would it fit

[kaylissjontaye]

no way dre would let this on chronic 20001...

nowhere near good enough

[siwooot]

this song isn't finished though, it would sound really good with dre's voice on it and a finished chorus.

[longhorn234]

Actually its not really up to Dr. Dre whether a track makes it on his album. Stat Quo explained on an interview today that there are tracks on 2001 that Dre does not like and would not have wanted to be on 2001.

[siwooot]

nah i think you misread that. he said there's stuff that dre would change on the album now thats all, dre still decides what goes on, except for when it comes to getting a commercial single than jimmy iovine makes sure of that shit.

[oldirtybastard213]

lmao... Dre , Eminem and 50 cent ... sold like 100+ million records together ... Jimmy Iovine cant tell them shit

[40areasg]

he doesnt tell them shit, but he sure takes some of there money

[siwooot]

Interscope bough a percentage of Aftermath in 2001, so its not just dre's label, so Jimmy Iovine can tell them shit, because he owns part of it.

[siwooot]

anyone notice anything odd about the chronic poseter?????????

[AnnonymousOne]

What do you see?

[siwooot]

the guest appearances, says feat. rbx and sticky fingaz. it must be the song remember me that was on eminems album. maybe it was gonna be on 2001.

[fijirulez]

whats odd???

[siwooot]

the guest appearance list. it says featuring sticky fingaz and RBX but those guys weren't even on the album.

[International0001]

maybe dre dropped lyrics for the "remember me?" beat the song was actually released on MMLP in 2000. i'm sure there are plenty of songs where other ppl have dope verses but will never see the light of day. that pisses me off about hiphop.

[M1TSIRUGI]

How'd you get this?

[siwooot]

lol internet. got it from some forum ages ago.

[ethans789]

can u plz send me this