KTLA Officers Involved In Deadly Beating Put On Admin Leave; David Begnaud reports ktla com

[doug5217]

Paid killers. That's all cops are in this country. I want to live in a better country.

[lovelee182]

my mother was a police officer.who faced what these officers face on a daily/nightly basis.but,she also saw the abuse of power that can come with this position and was disgusted enough when she saw it to make enemies of her co-workers..there was no excuse for this.even if he was 'wacko',there was not justifiable excuse for the level of aggression used by 6 officers,on 1 man.inexcusable.

[anointedsword]

Walk a day in a police officers shoes and you will see what these guys face. Tell ya what, I wonder why police officers wake up in the morning to protect you people...I would organize a call off...

[anointedsword]

Sounds all innocent don't it? "a homeless man" Well this homeless man was a wacko...

[lovelee182]

@anointedsword and wackos deserve to be beaten almost to death,obviously.

[hrsqsiest]

@neckarsulme Don't be so sure of that. There was an incident of excessive force in my town with a new cop that was hired 6mos earlier. When our citizen commitee looked into it they found he had been fired from 2 different towns in 2 different states. Police are like doctors. Screw up in one state just move to another and start over. Btw, his charges from those states were great bodily harm and involuntary manslaughter.

[bineivanit]

My good americas we need to protect ourselves from murders! I'm so angry I won't be able to sleep for days, where is good when we need him. just look in those idiots they don't give a damn that poor man suffer 4 five days and then die.jesus suffer 3 days, im shure kelly is next to god.good bless him

[Dillon4Cavaliers]

This is COMPLETELY off topic and yes I am saddened by his beating it is so wrong! but that male news anchor. DAMN he really does have the voice of a news anchor! lol :D

[neckarsulme]

The joke will be on that fat ass EX cop Ramos....He will be lucky to get a .13 cent an hour job cleaning toilets in prison.

[FUN61S]

our goverment is fucked up. simple. they are just really wierd. can handle being a cop....they cant handle it

[txbackstrap]

You know what is sad. Less than 1% of these brutal beatings than cops inflict on inocent people are shown and or known about. If i was Kelly Thomas's dad, I would be in prison for 6 counts of murder. Screw the police

[ten8goa]

When a football team loses they fire the coach, why the fuk do they x-pect the chief to resign for something he had nothing to do. He wasnt there. Deal with the officers. The coach doesnt play in the game .

[ember1k]

Paid leave, huh? yeah, that will show them. Lock them up and throw away the key! They murdered someone, they deserve to go to jail....But i have a feeling sense they're cops they won't.

[choaslover666]

Viva La Revolución

[jakeryan1888]

paid leave and a maximum of 4 years...? are you kidding me? if that faggot ass bitch jay cincinelli get convicted then he'll only serve 9 months of that sentance...thats pathetic

[xAntiGovernmentx]

1. KENTON HAMPTON

2. JAMES BLATNEY

3. JOSEPH WOLFE

4. KEVIN CRAIG

5. MANUEL RAMOS

6. JAY CICINELLI

[Dillon4Cavaliers]

I do hate the police, I really do, but we NEED the police! They don't do good things at times (especially in this case, honestly those cops need death penalty or need to be beaten by public citizens) If America didn't have cops America would tear apart. A lot of people talk about how the Government or how Obama or how Police officers are doing terrible jobs, but if none of that was around, America would completely just tear apart. There would be no laws so everyone would be killing each other.

[uhclem]

@Dillon4Cavaliers If there were no police there would still be law. The dirtbags, thieves and bullies would all soon be dealt with by lawful citizens and all the victimless crimes would cease to be crimes.

The police cannot and don't stop or prevent crime.

[1966RWB]

what I notice is when this happens to a black person the only ones who care are black people, and when this happens to a white person only white people care. When do we realize that until we come together this problem will continue.

[railroadwino1]

Even our language betrays our bias towards treating slop-lovin' pigs like they are irreproachable. They are "under fire" not: "accused of murder." I sure hope if I ever kill someone they will report me as being "under fire." That sure sounds nice. It's like being a victim. "Poor Jeffrey Dahmer... under fire for allegedly being a naughty no-no!"

[JohnLongGold]

fk the police.. cant trust them anymore..

[cshawn07]

The worst counsel in the US. Except for ALASKA

[blsfreek]

Yea true

[2ingrams]

sad part is if he hadt died nothing would have become of this

[blsfreek]

Nice parents too, letting a schitzophrenic SON be homeless.

[2ingrams]

@blsfreek gotta force your son to leave the nest sometime.

[bigmacnchimichangas]

i do not understand why the other four arenot getting as much publicity as the ramos and his partner..nottheir any more innocent they can all go to hell...can you imagine their lives out of uniform???thisis just one that made theheadlines.there are plenty more whose dads were not sherrifs...is that the reason he got killed to begin with??

[stugmann91]

i like how they are asking we want answers we need proof!, the fucken proof is on the tape and ive seen it. and the only thing i see are 6 corrupted who think they are above the law...and are getting away with murder.....

[20alphabet]

Yes, exercising our 2nd Amendment right will put an end to police murdering unarmed citizens. If you drive a pickup truck let the cop behind you see a gun rack on the back window. When this becomes common practice like it is in Montana you won't hear of out-of-control police, and yes, they NEED to be CONTROLLED by citizens.

[Dan4USCTroy]

They need to put new officers in that city. how bout letting the orange county sherriffs dept show them how to run a real police department....this is such a disgrace to the true hard loyal officers with integrity who do their job right and protect the public......

[JueputaGuebon]

"allegedly beat him"

Sorry KTLA they did beat him you fucks!

[joe80dman]

In a Totalitarian Police State as California is, the cops are considered as above the citizens. California shouldn't be considered as a state of the union, for they despise the US Constitution, and refuse the application of such. Exercise your 2nd Amendment, California. They'll treat your like scum until you do.

[Iripbowls]

i cant believe this :( how can they pay these murderers.

[howtoplanaparty]

the only good policeman is the policeman who goes against the freemasonic or papist brotherhood and stands against them

[420nVA]

Police

General 714.738.6800

Jail 714.738.6722

Chief of Police Michael Sellers 714.738.6825

Captain, Acting Chief of Police Kevin Hamilton 714.738.6841

Captain, Uniform Division Dan Hughes 714.738.6840

Captain, Services Division Alex Bastreri 714.738.6839

Lieutenant, Traffic Bureau Scott Rudisil 714.738-6816

Sergeant, Police Public Information Officer Andrew Goodrich 714.738.6838

[420nVA]

Call 714-738-6800 and let the Fullerton Police Department know how you feel about this matter.

Officer Joseph Wolfe, Officer Kenton Hampton, Officer Kevin Craig, and OfficerJames Blatney are still employed by the Fullerton Police Dept. and aided in holding down Kelly Thomas while he was beaten to death

[joe80dman]

@420nVA : Why aren't they charged as accomplices to murder?

[Luis951OM]

The City of Fullerton is paying $76,000.00 a month to the 6 cops who killed Kelly Thomas to sit at home and drink beer (stay-cation = stay at home vacation). That's $12,666.00 per month per cop. Multiply that by 12 months and these cops make more than $150,000.00 a year. These cops and their union are laughing at you the American taxpayer all the way to the bank; mocking you and calling you a sucker. Fullerton Police Department -BTK Killers (Bind Torture Kill)

[roseforvendetta]

all they had to do was hangcuff him and call for there cheif. so simple

[trexx32]

NIce Mayor, notice the boss of the Fullerton cops is the biggest Pig of them all

[airforcemax]

This applies to every law enforcement and the US military.

We all make mistakes, that can teach for other peace officers can be avoid this behavior.

Law enforcement need to be able to have better interactions since they have vested authority and deadly weapons. These peace officers are candidates for the death penalty, as the father of Kelly Thomas was recorded.

Study the law to always seek justice never revenge.

Thank you from Max Rafael Waller.

[BeenThereTwo]

PAID leave .. the entire chain of command needs fired and charged with civil right violations 

[vonshtoyven]

@BeenThereTwo if they were actually doing their jobs right they would fire themselves, these corrupt-thick-necked freaks who sit on their fat lazy ass and do nothing but gobble up more and more. this is what americans deserve for not being active enough with enforcing legitimacy in their government. you cant have liberty without dissention but its all too little too late now

[BeenThereTwo]

@vonshtoyven It is not too late if the citizens rise up and get rid of the entire police force !

[donteversendmeshit]

resisting arrest has always been punishable by death...keep that in mind.

if you see a cop even looking at you, you should hope he kills you as painlessly as possible. they beat that kelly guy so bad that he was screaming for his dad. a grown ass man screaming for his dad like he was 10 years old again.

[davidwgair]

Chief Pig Sellers already collects a fat pension as retired chief of Seal Beach PD. The chief just laughs at all of this as he collect 2 FAT checks. I witnessed the murder. Watch your back, chief.

[hockeyman3011]

paid leave fuck that 

[cHUCHo458]

Wait untill theY bring it up to the next level, there will be another "DOS ERRES MASSACRE'', another "EL MOZOTE MASSACRE", efrain Rios Montt will be the chief of Police in Fullerton and Lucas the torture trainer for his boys.

Those cops honestly enjoyed what they did to Kelly, give'm DA CHAIR!

[StudLife28]

I wonder if there are any departments in this country that trains their officers on Excessive Force?

[tampabayismyhome]

In Grand Forks, North Dakota, were i live, two cop made a man stand out in the cold for 10 minutes, it was -65 blow zero, but anyway the cops where charge with Reckless Endangerment, they both lost their jobs and went to jail for 3 months. Fullerton cops kill someone, and nothing happens to them.

[reformgovernment1]

The ONLY way this will ever stop is when alot of cops get shot and killed.

[vonshtoyven]

@reformgovernment1 this makes my heart warm inside, the thought of a pig massacre... oooh yum now i feel better thanks, they should give all the civil liberty hating cops the death penalty, death by citizens bullets penalty. we could have a creepy man hunt where their the victims of cruel and unusual punishments that inevitable lead to death. to me this is truly the best way to get back at them for what they DESERVE. R.I.P. Kelly Thomas i pray for your soul

[Primalxbeast]

Fuck giving these murderers paid vacation. Stick the mother fuckers in prison in general population and see how long the assholes last when they aren't armed 6 to 1 against one skinny little helpless guy.

Too bad we all know that the most that will happen to cops for murder is that they might lose their jobs. Makes me fucking sick that these pigs can do whatever the hell they want to us and get away with it.

[hatemorethanyou999]

They get paid leave--anyone else would be arrested--this was clearly a murder.

[egotisticproductionz]

the people are fucking pathetic, they need to rush them and kill the cops fuck the police, everyone who stood back and watched is just as guilty as the cops who killed this poor man..

[20alphabet]

Finally some decent reporting on this issue.

[DragoSteelers]

These pricks should be put on trial like anyone else who have commited murder. Pieces of shit.

[UtubeKing99]

@deltaalpha21074 Just because some cops are corrupt, doesn't mean they all are. Maybe the cop who was killed by the "hero" had a family and was a good cop

[Rivermaee]

Cops screw up and still get paid... What a miscarriage of justice...

[deltaalpha21074]

Ahh these SCUM in your GOvt of CALIF will do nothing just go out and KILL ALL those COPS like the HERO I SAY HERO did this past week in SAN DIEGO I looked him up and HE IS a""" HERO""" BLEW THAT BASTARD AWAY with SHOTGUN I am drinking 2 more bears HELL with a Beer Bong I am celebrating so hard EYE FOR AND EYE!

[t3chk4]

PAID LEAVE? You reward murderers with a vacation? LOCK THEIR ASSES UP and PUT THEM ON TRIAL for BEATING A HOGTIED MAN TO DEATH! There was NO WAY a HOGTIED MAN could RESIST, and NO WAY 6 "cops" couldn't deal with him without force if he was. Have you dragged the river for the witnesses they got rid of? The cameras they took (without due process) and destroyed the evidence? These "cops" deserve the DEATH PENALTY and are putting good cops at risk by placing them all in one group, criminal "cops"

[7000ironman]

to the berrybest, look man you have it ALL WRONG! i was commenting to how minorities and poor whites are being brutalized everyday by police officers and was not in any way disrespecting him in any way...when i said welcome to my world im a minority and that kind of thing happens all the time to us so no disrespect intended, man

[IDoNotBlameYou]

@7000ironman I understand you, and wrote you a PM. Sorry about that "berrybest" guy. I guess you're not allowed to talk about what's going on all the time, because somehow this is a special never-before-heard-of incident. Homelessness, mentally-ill, minorities in L.A. and Orange counties, and what REALLY happens to them by the thousands just doesn't matter much when everyone's busy with this singular, incredibly fucking tragic loss. I'm glad anybody cares. Maybe this will change something.

[schoomzer]

It is not just the Fullerton P.D. that commits abuses against the people; it is happening all across America, and most times the cops just get a slap on the wrist. They are violating our rights more and more. The cops should not be getting paid leave; they should be charged with murder. The people need to sue. Financial loss is sure to shake things up throughout the system. Call

your elected officials and congressman. Tell them you're not going to tolerate the abuses and loss of rights.

[BigThickRichard]

Song dedicated to officer psycho-cyclops: watch?v=JnS2xixCMCU

Cyclops is going to find out why they call prison the pokey!

[catsalive1]

Jay Cicinelli was there Kenton Hampton was there Manny Ramos was there Joe Wolfe was there James Blatney was there

FROM ONE OF THE C R A A Z I E S, C R A A Z I E S, C R A A Z I E S, C R A A Z I E S, C R A A Z I E S, C R A A Z I E S, C R A A Z I E S

[catsalive1]

@tubedisease I AM SURE THE FULLERTON SHERIFF DEPARTMENT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE TRIAL IN SIMI VALLEY, CA WITH THE CASEY ANTHONY JURY!

I HURT EVERYTIME I THINK OF KELLY THOMAS CALLING HIS "DAD" HE WAS CONFUSED & SCARED, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. HE'S IN A BETTER PLACE NOW. (NO PIGS) I STAY UP AT NIGHT TO POST. I WANT JUSTICE. RODNEY KING AND KELLY THOMAS ARE BIG ITEMS. THINK OF THE SMALLER THINGS THEY DO EVERYDAY. I REMEMBER AND THINK OF THE HARRASMENT FOR NO REASON. K A R M A.

[7000ironman]

to the people of fullerton im feel sorry for this mans family and for the way you have to be feeling right now. this is madness...being african american without a record i have been treated like shit when im stopped by the cops and have seen people wronged and im saying to you is your police department is turning into a gastople..nazi style tatics where they will try to f the tape up and get those cops off...watch what i tell you...welcome to my world

[theberrybest]

@7000ironman We are nowhere close to your world. You are an insult to this mans memory. Don't even try and compare your world to what happened here. How dare you!

[deltaalpha21074]

Whole system you have in USA is GIstapo just not wearing Swazstikas trust me ..you do not get violent because you fear yes do not kill them you fear them you fear losing your ;plush homes and fucking Walmarts reason I moved to Central America...where I live they killed 10 police Cartel hung them upside down with no heads and put dozens of pictures at thier former homes YOU FEAR your POLICE in America """FEAR""".

[marktorresx]

@deltaalpha21074 lol ive been living in the usa my entire life and not on one occasion have i had a negative experience with the police. if anythign they helped, they have never stopped me for things like jaywwalking isrsly love the police. if you're a criminal like kelly thomas then you probably get into trouble, he was breaking in into cars just to put things into perspective, this doesn't mean he deserved to be killed but nobody here knows what exactly was going on.

[deltaalpha21074]

@marktorresx Yeah you sound like some OLD FART shits his pants all day no wonder COPS don't bother you...they are just thugs in the USA and this is no accident---all planned by the crooks running your country to subdue your ability to protest and UNITE and lock you up...wake up and get out while you have a chance.

[marktorresx]

@deltaalpha21074 why wake up? i don't have a problem with the police, dude do you know how many times people have tried to break into my house? i can ALWAYS count on 911, sorry brah, but as i said people that have problems with the police are most likely gangsters/criminals anyways.

[deltaalpha21074]

@marktorresx HEY ever hear of your 2nd amendmant huh --here in PERU land owners can posses shotguns and mine is A SPAS/12 --why don't you own up man and get with your own RIGHTS or are you a crimminal and can't have a BB-GUN? OH yeah they sell rubber buckshot and bean bags so you don;t have to feel guilty if shooting thugs ..protecting yourself>>>>>>..it's you HUMAN RIGHT OK?

[marktorresx]

@deltaalpha21074 dude i'm 20, i will get a gun as soon as i turn 21, can't fukin wait :)

[deltaalpha21074]

@marktorresx OH MY GOD you are jsut a kid damn I thought I would get some Adult to take some action AHHHHHH ok son keep playing COD and get that gun when you are 21.... then blow few of these bastards away please...I recommend good old SOCOM II and not a puny littel AR-15.

[t3chk4]

@marktorresx yeah ALWAYS a phone call away with a 20-30 minute response time, buy a gun you'd be better off. You're in PERU your opinions of these "cops" or any cops in this country are null and void.

[marktorresx]

@t3chk4 peru? wut? i'm in the us

[StanHowse]

Think about it... Police get paid by your taxes, if they get sent on "paid leave" because of something wrong they did.. You're still paying him for, #1. Doing a bad job, for #2. Not working... WTF?! Do they pay you if you get fired at your job? I don't think so.

[StanHowse]

I never did think too highly of this "paid leave" concept.. In any line of work..

Just doesn't seem right to me... If any average "Joe Blow" was to not be working, he wouldn't get paid... People in a "high-end" line of work such as politics, law & order.. Do something WRONG, usually pretty bad to.. Don't get fired, but don't have to goto work any more, and still get paid, usually off YOUR tax dollar.

[StanHowse]

PAID LEAVE!? WTF... If I was to screw up and maybe misplace something important at a certain job, I'd get fired, right there. These people don't have to work AND GET PAID!? WTF.. And all I would have done is a mistake.. Not be an associate after the fact, to beating a mentally ill, homeless man to coma then death.

[zarf00]

1) The video needs to be made public

2) They should be tried for murder, instead of being on a paid leave

[1robinsong]

Everybody needs to go watch this vid: "police beatings caught on tape in fullerton ca" It was taken by a witness at the initial stages of the beating, and it shows the faces of 3 or 4 of the police officers in detail and at length. Basically, the officers then assaulted the man who took that video because he was speaking up against the excessive force, and shooed the MANY onlookers away with threats of arrest if they didn't go home! That's why in the other vids, citizens look uninvolved.

[agusta1968]

@1robinsong

That video you referenced is of yet another incident in Fullerton and not a different view of this one. However it was reported that in this incident there was a man who had his camera taken away and he was very close. There is also a pole mounted camera footage that is very clear that they are withholding.

[1robinsong]

@agusta1968 OOoh. Okay. I'm so glad you told me. I was thinking they were one and the same event. My mistake. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

[1robinsong]

When will they press charges?

[1robinsong]

What?! Somebody offered Thomas's dad $900,000?? Yet another example of corruption! They tried to give hush money to a man of honor! Big mistake.

They should disband the ENTIRE Fullerton police department completely, right after they require all citizens to go buy a gun, learn to use it safely and properly, to protect themselves and their families and their neighbors, and have a town election for city sheriff. Old West style.

Instead, they put them on paid leave. Evil. Wicked. Demonic.

[joetri10]

lol.. Paid admin leave......

[abruzz0]

"This is Kelly Thomas after 6 police officers 'allegedly' beat him." ALLEGEDLY beat him? Oh man...

[NancyRedStar]

Prison- LIFE SENTENCE

[feewynnoc]

Why is it when a cop gets bitch slap by a homeless man they have the video right away. And now six dirty cops ganged up and killed an unarmed man and there's no video tape?? What the fuck is wrong with this? Are they trying to hide something? Shame!!! Shame!!! Shame!!!...The whole FPD needs to be cleaned up..

[jerrydoubleu]

this is what unions and civil service get you--murder by cop.

[rhondamaddgirl]

Keep after them....don't stop Fullerton Community!!!! Don't stop. You step up and speak for that young man...Good for you. FILE CHARGES NOW>

[BashirH]

fuck a paid leave. 

[dankhank73]

paid leave for murderers sweet Im signing up so I can rape steal deal murder and still get paid. scum

[IDoNotBlameYou]

2:24 DAMN, I'm so glad that Ron Thomas called them on their bullshit out-of-court bribe.  That fucking police chief Michael Sellers needs to be held accountable for obstruction of justice, because that's exactly what he's been doing all this time.

[1robinsong]

@IDoNotBlameYou Obstruction of justice is right! There'd be more justice if the people just arm themselves, elect a trustworthy and honorable citizen as "town sheriff," and disband the entire police department. I have a strong suspicion that a fair trial will not be easy in this case, considering who's been appointed as investigators. That Schroeder lady, I don't trust her. Something in her eyes tells me she doesn't seek the full truth.

[IDoNotBlameYou]

@1robinsong The DA here is a joke: she belongs to the same department, all who have VERY close ties to each other, in the same way a mafia family does. Looking to her for justice is a complete U-turn. This HAS to be taken up by a department beyond O.C. This needs to be taken up by the Feds. There's no way a full police dept. would take THIS long to figure it out, especially when it's one of their own and their actions were closely monitored by camera, the dispatcher, the whole shot.

[TheTubecharlie]

What comes around goes around !!!

- remember Ronny King / Fong Lee (mpls)

Eager go see what the result is for a white

Victim

Hang those pigs!!!!

[B3NeF1T]

SHOW US THE FUCKING TAPE!!!!!!!!!!!

[HoRuSHoRiZoN]

This is what we need to do as a community and we won't need them anymore .... start loving and caring for one another and standing up for one another and shit get smoving , god bless to his family and all you supporteers don't stop ...

[Pfsif]

Worse than a police state!

[IronRangeSurvival]

They are a disease, and ROPE is the cure.

[Dewdaahman]

NO PAY FOR MURDERERS AND NO JOB FOR DEFENDERS OF MURDERERS OUTSIDE A COUIRT OF LAW!!!!!

[MrAlexbradley]

How dare the officers be put on PAID leave!!! The taxpayers are DEMANDING answers and retribution, and instead they're spat on by having their taxes go into the pockets of officers that SHOULD be on trial!!

[guerrillabeast2010]

@MrAlexbradley you are absolutely right! Mother fuckers !

[AntaresInScorpius]

@MrAlexbradley oh shut da hell up, that is standard operation procedure.

[dtfullertonrocks]

That overflow crowd in the lobby was far bigger earlier in the evening. At least 200 people and another 100 (estimated) in the library.

[pumacheyenne]

The entire FPD needs a good house cleaning.

Mayor Dick Jones and FPD Chief Sellers can kiss their careers goodbye.

[maverick10241]

@pumacheyenne i wish people in tn would stand up against the police but they are just cowards.everyday tn cops lash out with sadistic and brutal punishment on the poor.how the poor in tn suffer at the hands of cruel and violent police.my heart goes out to Mr. Thomas and his family and to see strangers fighting city hall because of this young mans murder makes you think that not everyone is afraid of brutal police.we suffer everyday because tn cops hate the poor but we do prey god will stop it.

[vonshtoyven]

@pumacheyenne they are so blatantly corrupt and demoralized, we need retribution for Kelly