On the subject of Gaius Baltar, he, of his own free will, gave up a life as the head of a cult full of diverse and very sexy kinds of women willing to do whatever he wanted for him to go save a little girl who was kidnapped to be diced up into little pieces and studied. How bad of a guy can he really be?
James Callis is a great great actor. Can you imagine the various characteristics of Gaius Baltar he had to do, with real and 'imaginary' people too? I once read that he even tried an 'Adama impersonation' during a take in 'Pegasus' when Edward Olmos wasn't around for the take and he perform it so good everyone cant help not to start laughing
This fits the whole ending of the series perfectly! We see Baltar and the women in a futuristic setting and as this music plays through that pivotal scene, it sounds so positively ancient! I love that combination. It's very primal and the dissonant voices in the beginning make my hairs stand on end, in a good way. The voices are incredible. The whole composition is superb and I can't begin to explain how much I like this!
I think I liked Baltar the most, and in the end to see him come to terms with his past was the most gratifying to me. He overcame his flaws of weakness more then anyone in the end. While everyone else had an inner strength that came to the surface after the destruction of the colonies Baltar had to remove so many layers to find his strength. I find that admirable about him.
For me this is the best best piece of music from all the seasons of BSG! I remember first watching the scene in season 4 when Baltar walks into the room with all the women and this music playing in the background! The music made it such an amazing scene! The last minute or so of this track is simply amazing! Such a beautiful piece of music!! Ok that's enough compliments! LOL. Gonna go blast it in my car now.
translation We gadriaþ in nihtscuan (We gather in shadow,) Neoðan þin gledstede, (Beneath your altar,) þin liċfæst in blode ond lieġe. (Your image in blood and flame.) Nu þin ġebann, æþreddaþ us (By your command, deliver us) To þæm anliċum æltæwan gastcyninge (Unto the One True God) Gaius Baltar, ure dryhtweorþ nergend (Gaius Baltar, our divine savior) Nu ond æfre to alder. (Now and for eternity.) Swa we ġehwilc ġehalsiaþ. (So say we all. )
Baltar, what a Schmuck, but without him there would have been no conflict... he wan't the only person who worked on the defense mainframe... he was just sought out after the cylons probably noticed what a slave to his compulsions he was. Baltar's main short-coming, if you want to call it that was his curiosity... lol he was a scientist after all and what scientist would turn down some hot ass.
I really liked Baltar actually.. He made mistakes, but they really weren't his fault. It was just human nature for the position he was in to react the ways he did.
The only dumb thing he did was not tell Adama that Sharon was a fraking cylon
Baltar was the greatest role in the series. I think I have a bit of his DNA. If that's so, I'd also have the mitochondrial DNA of six. But that's imossible since Hera poses the role of EVE and is the only half human/cylon. So I can't make my own cylon clone of six. But I could of eight!
Honestly, this is my least favorite track on the soundtrack. Maybe it's just that I wasn't that into the cult of baltar story in the first place. It just feels like a weird track to me. It is a well composed piece. I just don't feel it's mood like the rest. But the drums in the second half sorta make up for it.
baltar was the sole reason why the cylons gained the access codes to disable the battlestar/viper fleets in the first place, for the mass genocide of the human race, I deem him evil, although he redeems himself a tiny little TINY bit, he is still ultimately in a sort of moral purgatory, still I wouldn't mind seeing him executed for the justice of those that have been laid to rest, why do I still like him? I don't know... Maybe it's becuase he gets all the best character themes :P
Evil? Evil doesn't express remorse over ones actions. For the amount of intelligence Baltar had, he was a like a child. Innocent in many ways, and dictated by his passions. But he was anything but evil.
I don't think you understand what evil means. If he knew what the outcome of his mistake would be, then you may have a point. Negligence isn't the same as evil. And it was painfully obvious that he had remorse over what happened. Again, not the trait of someone that's inherently even, even by the loosest of definitions.
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I know what it means, and I frankly dont care if you want to get technical, he should have died the moment everyone discovered he was the cause of all this, case closed. And lee is a douche bag for letting him live anyway
I'm being technical about this because you're slinging a word around as if it has multiple meanings. Sometimes they do; but in this situation, it's no applicable.
Now if you had said that you thought Baltar should pay for his negligence with his life, that'd be different. But you made a value judgment of his soul, and then clarified your feelings on the matter.
Baltar is not evil. If he is, then so is Lee for letting evil live; as are every one else around him.
man you act like a child. normally I just read the comments and scoff at the stupid ones, but your emotional dedication to being right is unwavering. you perfectly fit the quote at the beginning, ya know the "you have an amazing capacity for self deception, how do you do that?" and no, Baltar is not evil. If he had any inkling of a hint that his actions would of resulted in what they had, then he wouldn't of done it. period. begin to consider the fact, it is humanly possible, that you are wrong
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"Man" you act like an over analytical asshole. baltar was the reason for the mass genocide of 12 planets full of billions upon billions of people, your right lets pat him on the back and forgive him, PFFT, all of you who say "wahhh baltar isn't evil, wahh baltar was just misguided", need to be sucked out of the airlock with the rest.
Why don't we just enjoy the music? Baltar is an interesting FICTIONAL character. Not evil, but not a good person. Bear McCreary, meanwhile, is a genius composer!
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I dont really care if you dont see it as I do, dont try and change my viewpoints, tell me im wrong, or try and change my opinion in anyway, since I wont yield my thoughts to the likes of you.
What bugs me is stuck up assholes like you thinking they know everything trying to change peoples ideas :D
Like i said i don't give two rats asses about your theories, you have yours and I have mine. Baltar is evil and should have been killed long ago, the end.
haha, actually, you're the one who sounds like they think they know everything, telling me what a "stuck up asshole" I am, even though you've never met me, and, telling me I "think I know everything", which means that apparently, a dispute over battlestar means I know everything
the only thing that bugs me is your smile at the end, proving the fact that you really do want me to feel pain by calling me an asshole. but it's nice to know you like the idea of causing me pain
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There you go again, lol I'm not causing you pain, I'm telling you how it is, if you feel pain from that well thats your problem
I'm not the one coming in here analyzing people's viewpoints trying to make it look like I know what's right and pushing my ideas as such, last time i checked sounds like a stuck up know-it-all asshole to me.
You have your views, I have mine, you must learn that at some point in time it is actually possible not to change other peoples opinions :]
Baltar was stupid, not evil. He thought the 6 worked for a Caprican defense firm that was working on new automation software for Caprica's orbital defense network. She basically told him he'd be giving her company an advantage over others who were working on the same kind of thing. She probably also promised him lots of hot monkey sex. ;-) It's a monumentally stupid mistake, but it wasn't *evil*. That word gets thrown around waaay too much...
I wouldn't say he was stupid per se, he was weak. A weak character was Baltar's greatest flaw. He wasn't evil, he wasn't stupid ... he just more often than not found it very hard to do the *right thing*.
All in all, BSG without Baltar just wouldn't have worked. And James Callis' acting was some of the finest on the show, which is twice the compliment it sounds because the acting in BSG was of a very high quality in general ... IMHO :)
On the subject of Gaius Baltar, he, of his own free will, gave up a life as the head of a cult full of diverse and very sexy kinds of women willing to do whatever he wanted for him to go save a little girl who was kidnapped to be diced up into little pieces and studied. How bad of a guy can he really be?
thehindmost88 4 weeks ago
My favorite song out of the entire BSG soundtrack - period.
Spawn733 2 months ago in playlist Battlestar Galactica
Whenever I meet someone who says they didn't like Baltar, all I have to do is reply right back with, "Dude fucked a table."
nisus8 5 months ago
James Callis is a great great actor. Can you imagine the various characteristics of Gaius Baltar he had to do, with real and 'imaginary' people too? I once read that he even tried an 'Adama impersonation' during a take in 'Pegasus' when Edward Olmos wasn't around for the take and he perform it so good everyone cant help not to start laughing
93n371cfr34k 6 months ago
I love the last part starting at 3:48 when it really starts to rock!
Unclesamslair 8 months ago
@Unclesamslair Exactly! it reaches a whole new level of amazing!
enriquefeto 7 months ago
eerie and beautiful
missdexterity 9 months ago
Baltar and Tigh were the most human characters of the series. If I were God I would forgive them both of their sins.
masteraj57 10 months ago 7
@masteraj57 Actually calling Tigh a human character is quite paradox. But I agree to you! ;)
Crunor 7 months ago
Genius.
-end of line-
Chiliearts 11 months ago
that wasn't accidental.
MrZingnigga 1 year ago
I'm not sure why, but Gaius seems to me like he is supposed to be the origin of the Christ archetype in the Galactica Universe.
Probably just the facial features.
Voyksed 1 year ago 7
@Voyksed No your kinda right he plays Christ in a Bible quizzing movie for the book of John.
AgnusValdare 5 months ago
Gaius Baltar for president!
Powersnufkin 1 year ago
Magical!
faerinelda 1 year ago
This fits the whole ending of the series perfectly! We see Baltar and the women in a futuristic setting and as this music plays through that pivotal scene, it sounds so positively ancient! I love that combination. It's very primal and the dissonant voices in the beginning make my hairs stand on end, in a good way. The voices are incredible. The whole composition is superb and I can't begin to explain how much I like this!
Chipchik 1 year ago 5
I think I liked Baltar the most, and in the end to see him come to terms with his past was the most gratifying to me. He overcame his flaws of weakness more then anyone in the end. While everyone else had an inner strength that came to the surface after the destruction of the colonies Baltar had to remove so many layers to find his strength. I find that admirable about him.
smcneal057 2 years ago 6
@smcneal057 Totally. And the bit at the end where he chokes up as he mentions his knowledge of farming, and Six's reaction...that killed me!
xbox360cobra 1 year ago 2
świetny utwór, jeden z najlepszych, mroczny ale napawający nadzieją
icebone21 2 years ago 6
For me this is the best best piece of music from all the seasons of BSG! I remember first watching the scene in season 4 when Baltar walks into the room with all the women and this music playing in the background! The music made it such an amazing scene! The last minute or so of this track is simply amazing! Such a beautiful piece of music!! Ok that's enough compliments! LOL. Gonna go blast it in my car now.
graveheart1138 2 years ago 5
Beerbottles123 2 years ago 41
@Beerbottles123 how did you get the special characters?
Voyksed 1 year ago
@Voyksed copypaste them form bear mcrearry's blog
Unclesamslair 1 year ago
So Say We All
1HD2001 1 year ago
anyone know what language this is?
PeopleOfAr 2 years ago
I'd guess Latin, heard her say 'Deus' :b
TausMunk 2 years ago
@TausMunk the "deus" you heard was actually "Gaius"
nightandday 1 year ago
@TausMunk the "deus" you heard was actually "Gaius"
nightandday 1 year ago
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Beerbottles123 2 years ago
its pre-english. anglo-saxon, i think
Beerbottles123 2 years ago 2
@PeopleOfAr Old English (Anglo Saxon)
nightandday 1 year ago
@PeopleOfAr Old English (Anglo Saxon)
nightandday 1 year ago
Baltar, what a Schmuck, but without him there would have been no conflict... he wan't the only person who worked on the defense mainframe... he was just sought out after the cylons probably noticed what a slave to his compulsions he was. Baltar's main short-coming, if you want to call it that was his curiosity... lol he was a scientist after all and what scientist would turn down some hot ass.
WickIDwarrior 2 years ago 4
I really liked Baltar actually.. He made mistakes, but they really weren't his fault. It was just human nature for the position he was in to react the ways he did.
The only dumb thing he did was not tell Adama that Sharon was a fraking cylon
Extreke 2 years ago 4
Baltar was the greatest role in the series. I think I have a bit of his DNA. If that's so, I'd also have the mitochondrial DNA of six. But that's imossible since Hera poses the role of EVE and is the only half human/cylon. So I can't make my own cylon clone of six. But I could of eight!
If only I'd knew how....
Stormtjakka 2 years ago 2
Horses for courses. It's my most favourite.
OPTIMUSCUNT 2 years ago
Honestly, this is my least favorite track on the soundtrack. Maybe it's just that I wasn't that into the cult of baltar story in the first place. It just feels like a weird track to me. It is a well composed piece. I just don't feel it's mood like the rest. But the drums in the second half sorta make up for it.
JulyForToday 2 years ago
I quite like it actually. It starts out a bit weird but then quickly gets better and better.
antred11 2 years ago
i liked that after finding nuked earth that more and more characters started to gravitated towards baltar and his sermons
BSGfan84 2 years ago 7
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baltar eh?... let's review.
He's selfish
Full of shit
A coward
Will run, cry, bend over, sign over the last of humanity in an instant and basically anything else befitting the role of a pathetic dog like himself
Doesn't think of anyone else
The only time gaius baltar does anything beneficial for anyone is when it benefits gaius baltar
And oh yeah he killed 100 billion people
mangekyousharingan17 2 years ago
And he is human
Morbidemind 2 years ago 4
probably the most human character in the whole show.
Unclesamslair 2 years ago 6
It was only 20 billion ;)
20thcentury 2 years ago
HAHAHAA
Hodge329 2 years ago
baltar was the sole reason why the cylons gained the access codes to disable the battlestar/viper fleets in the first place, for the mass genocide of the human race, I deem him evil, although he redeems himself a tiny little TINY bit, he is still ultimately in a sort of moral purgatory, still I wouldn't mind seeing him executed for the justice of those that have been laid to rest, why do I still like him? I don't know... Maybe it's becuase he gets all the best character themes :P
Arcilios 2 years ago
Evil? Evil doesn't express remorse over ones actions. For the amount of intelligence Baltar had, he was a like a child. Innocent in many ways, and dictated by his passions. But he was anything but evil.
PathogensQuest 2 years ago 4
well when you cause the genocide of your entire race save for a few thousand, I'd call that a just a little bit evil..
Arcilios 2 years ago
I don't think you understand what evil means. If he knew what the outcome of his mistake would be, then you may have a point. Negligence isn't the same as evil. And it was painfully obvious that he had remorse over what happened. Again, not the trait of someone that's inherently even, even by the loosest of definitions.
PathogensQuest 2 years ago 4
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I know what it means, and I frankly dont care if you want to get technical, he should have died the moment everyone discovered he was the cause of all this, case closed. And lee is a douche bag for letting him live anyway
Arcilios 2 years ago
I'm being technical about this because you're slinging a word around as if it has multiple meanings. Sometimes they do; but in this situation, it's no applicable.
Now if you had said that you thought Baltar should pay for his negligence with his life, that'd be different. But you made a value judgment of his soul, and then clarified your feelings on the matter.
Baltar is not evil. If he is, then so is Lee for letting evil live; as are every one else around him.
PathogensQuest 2 years ago 4
nah lees just an idiot, baltar is evil and um your not changing my view on that kthxbye
Arcilios 2 years ago
Oh. Okay. I picture you with your index fingers shoved in your ears going lalalalalalalalala!
PathogensQuest 2 years ago
LOL! pretty much
Arcilios 2 years ago
man you act like a child. normally I just read the comments and scoff at the stupid ones, but your emotional dedication to being right is unwavering. you perfectly fit the quote at the beginning, ya know the "you have an amazing capacity for self deception, how do you do that?" and no, Baltar is not evil. If he had any inkling of a hint that his actions would of resulted in what they had, then he wouldn't of done it. period. begin to consider the fact, it is humanly possible, that you are wrong
CertusAnimadverto 2 years ago
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"Man" you act like an over analytical asshole. baltar was the reason for the mass genocide of 12 planets full of billions upon billions of people, your right lets pat him on the back and forgive him, PFFT, all of you who say "wahhh baltar isn't evil, wahh baltar was just misguided", need to be sucked out of the airlock with the rest.
Arcilios 2 years ago
Why don't we just enjoy the music? Baltar is an interesting FICTIONAL character. Not evil, but not a good person. Bear McCreary, meanwhile, is a genius composer!
So Say We All!
Hodge329 2 years ago 41
@Hodge329 Swa we ġehwilc ġehalsiaþ.
Voyksed 1 year ago
@Hodge329 SO SAY WE ALL!
trikpa 1 year ago
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Oh yeah "here's top secret military access codes, this couldn't possibly implicate anyone in any way", right.
He should have died THE SECOND everyone found out about it. period.
And frankly I dont give two rat shits about you and your long winded explanations about your point, as pathogens said:
"Oh. Okay. I picture you with your index fingers shoved in your ears going lalalalalalalalala!"
Which is what I now do for you. K thxbye
Arcilios 2 years ago
look I can give up all the other stuff,
I don't care much about that,
but, how can you know that you're willfully seeking ignorance, and be okay with that? that's what I want to know. doesn't it bug you in some way?
CertusAnimadverto 2 years ago
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I dont really care if you dont see it as I do, dont try and change my viewpoints, tell me im wrong, or try and change my opinion in anyway, since I wont yield my thoughts to the likes of you.
What bugs me is stuck up assholes like you thinking they know everything trying to change peoples ideas :D
Like i said i don't give two rats asses about your theories, you have yours and I have mine. Baltar is evil and should have been killed long ago, the end.
Arcilios 2 years ago
haha, actually, you're the one who sounds like they think they know everything, telling me what a "stuck up asshole" I am, even though you've never met me, and, telling me I "think I know everything", which means that apparently, a dispute over battlestar means I know everything
the only thing that bugs me is your smile at the end, proving the fact that you really do want me to feel pain by calling me an asshole. but it's nice to know you like the idea of causing me pain
haha, thanks
CertusAnimadverto 2 years ago
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There you go again, lol I'm not causing you pain, I'm telling you how it is, if you feel pain from that well thats your problem
I'm not the one coming in here analyzing people's viewpoints trying to make it look like I know what's right and pushing my ideas as such, last time i checked sounds like a stuck up know-it-all asshole to me.
You have your views, I have mine, you must learn that at some point in time it is actually possible not to change other peoples opinions :]
Arcilios 2 years ago
Baltar was stupid, not evil. He thought the 6 worked for a Caprican defense firm that was working on new automation software for Caprica's orbital defense network. She basically told him he'd be giving her company an advantage over others who were working on the same kind of thing. She probably also promised him lots of hot monkey sex. ;-) It's a monumentally stupid mistake, but it wasn't *evil*. That word gets thrown around waaay too much...
IssacDDG 2 years ago 3
I wouldn't say he was stupid per se, he was weak. A weak character was Baltar's greatest flaw. He wasn't evil, he wasn't stupid ... he just more often than not found it very hard to do the *right thing*.
All in all, BSG without Baltar just wouldn't have worked. And James Callis' acting was some of the finest on the show, which is twice the compliment it sounds because the acting in BSG was of a very high quality in general ... IMHO :)
antred11 2 years ago 7
"...Right."
Beautiful chanting and melody. Very otherworldly.
Neakal 2 years ago 6
So say we all!
awakenDeepBlue 2 years ago
This is SO Beautiful.
ttnite08 2 years ago 2
Ƿe ȝadriaþ in nihtſcuan
Neoðan þin ȝledſtede,
þin licfæſt in blode ond lieȝe.
Nu þin ȝebann, æþreddaþ us.
To þæm anlicum æltæƿan ȝaſtcyninȝe.
Gaius Baltar, ure dryhtƿeorþ nerȝend,
Nu ond æfre to alder.
Sƿa ƿe ȝehƿilc ȝehalſiaþ.
keurejiman 2 years ago 4
thank you
Morbidemind 2 years ago
For those of you not familiar with archaic English letters:
Ƿ ƿ = Wynn (w, looks too much like a p which is why it was scrapped)
Ȝ ȝ = Yogh (g, sounds like y in some words)
Þ þ = Thorn (th, was used into middle English but scrapped because printers didn;t have the letter)
Ð ð = Eth, or "That" (th, usually only between vowels)
ſ = long s, s at the beginning or in the middle of a word
keurejiman 2 years ago 4
The translation:
We gather in shadow,
Beneath your altar,
Your image in blood and flame.
By your command, deliver us
Unto the One True God.
Gaius Baltar, our divine savior
Now and for eternity.
So say we all.
keurejiman 2 years ago 4
Baltar was so awesome...Like a ghost drifting beyond good and evil
Stormtjakka 2 years ago 8
Good, evil, we created those things, you know. God isn't on any one side...
ProphetoftheMachines 2 years ago 9