It's not just Brown who admires Mrs.Thatcher. She has another great admirer in Tony Blair, so it always makes me laugh when I hear Labour supporters slagging her off.
In a world where 1% of the world control 40% of the wealth, 50% earn less than 2 dollars a day, 60% have never used a phone, 100 million tons of waste is floating in the pacific and a 6th of the population is starving something is obvious, our political and social institutions do not work. We need a new approach. Watch 'zeitgeist addendum' online to find out the more.
'We can not solve the problems of today by using the same thought process we used when we created them' Albert Einstein.
Have you seen the Labour "remember the Tories in Scotland" video? The party that introduced the poll tax. And what exactly have Labour done about the poll tax? Simply multiplied it by 20 for their own needs that's what.
It doesn't matter WHO you vote in. The politicians will run things for their own benefit not Joe Public's.
Ok. I've thought about it. And I think that you need to accept that Gordon Brown and anyone else can admire Thatcher without completely endorsing her politics. To think otherwise is childish.
Though in reality there's barely any difference between Labour and Tory anymore. And this is because socialism is unworkable and Thatcherism makes sound economic sense. To quote Thatcher: "Socialism is dead. Even Labour have turned their backs on it."
Actually, Thatcher made much better things for the working class people than any of the socialists. Thanks, to her economic programme we all became richer. When Tony blurr was blowing state's money it was because of her. Otherwise, there would be simply nothing in the treasury. ;)
We've never had a socialist government in the UK (yes, that includes every Labour government).
For a few working class people lucky enough the keep their jobs during Thatcherism, they probably did do well. However, Scottish industry dissappeared because of Thatcherism, leaving mass unemployment across the central belt, which still exists to this day.
And let's face it, signing on is hardly a fast-track the high-life.
Working class isn't the whole society. It's not some kind of sacred cow that we should praise all the time in every circumstances. Britain, as a country, after Thatcherism was much stronger than before it, it is a simple fact.
And a politician shouldn't be judged by what he/she did to one individual or even several groups of people. The state of the whole nation is what really counts.
As for the term 'socialist' - nowadays everyone uses it as they want. So did I. ;)
Stalin killed millions of people but turned Russia into a superpower. Should we praise him then?
Thatcher didn't fix the problems of the 70s, she just changed them. She put millions of people out of work, encouraged everyone to get into debt and steered the country into recession. These are the real facts of Thatcherism.
I'm afraid not, I mentioned three things which definitely happened. Anyone who was there at the time, Tory or not, would say the same. It's like saying it's only an opinion that we went to war with Argentina under Thatcher.
The only opinion is whether or not you think unemployment, debt & recession are good or bad things.
In this case it is very strange that so many political commentators and economists praise Lady Thatcher and President Reagan for what they did. Nobody's perfect, but it's silly to state that she was the worst PM this country ever had.
Btw, your thinking is wrong, because you forget that Thatcher had to deal with problems left by the Labour. She had to make some drastic decisions, otherwise this country would completely fall. But don't worry, Britain will sink anyway...
I mentioned that above, as I said, Thatcher just changed the problems. We went from things like unions being far too powerful to wholly useless. Everything went to far to the right. As a result, British industry was ripped to shreds and millions became unemployed.
The problem of modern politics is (in my opinion) our outdated mindset. We think left or right, socialism or capitalism. I believe that both this system are wrong. Human nature isn't socialistic, nor capitalistic, it isn't even sth 'in between' . It's just completetly different. Man is a social creature and without society he could not exist. On the other hand, he also needs some privacy and wants to own things others don't possess. We will probably never achieve harmony that suits both needs.
What you're talking about is socio-economics and the balance therein. I personally think government should focus more on the social & less on the economic side (although obviously having to pay for social policies somehow).
Thatcher opted for economic policies at the detriment of lot of necessary social policies and this is why so may people hate her. She made millions of people's lives worse & things haven't really recovered since then.
When the history books are written Margaret Thatcher will occupy several volumes! Gordon Brown will be lucky to occupy a semi-colon. And he dares to compare himself to her!
I must be alone in seeing both sides of the Thatcher argument. Domestically she could be brutal- calling the miners the 'enemy within' was divisive and cruel. She was also far too cosy with Pinochet- on the other hand, she stood staunchly against the evil of communism- a necessary move.
We need Thatcher back...turned this country from the Sick Man of Europe to a real force again..Brown is not fit to lick her boots..and shame on you Mr Brown..you used to hate this woman, now you admire her..pathetic!
Snapper says look at Japan, see how well it did after the war. Japan was not allowed to re-arm and still wastes little on 'defence' spending. That's why Germany did so well following the war too. The UK throws away 35 billion a year on 'defence'! Well., we do keep in with America I suppose.....
Yeah get in the Tories, they're a LOT better. Wee Dave Cameron, Blair Mark II, it's almost as democratic as a US election. Any colour politician as long as they are blue. Labour are indeed rubbish but the Tories are no better. Find an English independence party that doesn't hate Scotland and you will be laughing.
Taken a long time for Gordon & Tony to admit that Margaret Thatcher dragged bankrupt & basketcase Britain kicking and screaming into an era of prolonged prosperity,the benefits of which are still evident today.
We also have to thank her for keeping Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock out of office...long live Maggie!!!!
m15 carried out the loindon bombings. and the queen orded it. chain of command,(all police and army knows how this works.proof go tothe 4the bomb pt1-5 or london bomings proof. daniel obersheki was on the number 30 bus. he recorded police harassing him.listen to voice recordings. WAKE UP PEOPLE
please leasrn about the red and blue degrees of freemason. once you have you will see its a 2 sided coin. always has been forget all sides bickering. its all planned that way. wake-up. look up mr icke or jordan maxwell or micheal tsarion. PASTE N COPY THESE NAMES. AWAKENING IS ON.
It's taken 28 years, but I think this is the final icing on the cake of what she tried to achieve.
A Labour prime minister so openly identifying with her and her premiership cements a new political and economic climate in this country. There's no more left-right conflict. I dare say it resembles very much the Liberal-Conservative consensus of the nineteenth century - a period of extraordinary growth and prosperity.
Margaret Thatchers appearance has no relevance to how she ran the country. She done an excellent job, I myself am a socialist but she saw problems and she was striven to repair them.
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It's not about her appearance, arse hole. It's about what she did for this country, Margret Thatcher wasn't called the Iron Maiden for nothing! And as far as I'm concerened, being this country's first woman prime minister is something to be proud of right there!
Iron Maiden was a devise used to torture or kill by slowly draining its victims so its probably far more suitable.Its fantastic Britain had a woman as a leader just tragic ,in my opinion , it was her.
It's not just Brown who admires Mrs.Thatcher. She has another great admirer in Tony Blair, so it always makes me laugh when I hear Labour supporters slagging her off.
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In a world where 1% of the world control 40% of the wealth, 50% earn less than 2 dollars a day, 60% have never used a phone, 100 million tons of waste is floating in the pacific and a 6th of the population is starving something is obvious, our political and social institutions do not work. We need a new approach. Watch 'zeitgeist addendum' online to find out the more.
'We can not solve the problems of today by using the same thought process we used when we created them' Albert Einstein.
fibbsabaddy 1 year ago
dirty slag fucking hate her
hikrydik 1 year ago
damn was expecting porn
44connected 1 year ago
@44connected ahaha! Now there's a thought.
sharkey4123 1 year ago
Great stuff, nice one Gordon! Thatcher gave you the mess you had to deal with and your admiring her?
VOTE Labour and you'll probaly get labour, vote LIB DEMS for real change! we can do it this time, this is our chance.
JazReviews 1 year ago
@JazReviews Real change by removing tax credits... Taking away from the working class again? Sounds very Tory to me.
Drowzor 1 year ago
@Drowzor STFU...sort it out yourself you soft cunt.
LunchtimeLoonies 1 year ago
@LunchtimeLoonies Uh, sort out what myself? Eat shit and die you fucking prawn.
Drowzor 1 year ago
@JazReviews Hows that change working out for ya!
1Meryl 2 months ago
@1Meryl Yeah............ Vote Tory
JazReviews 2 months ago
Have you seen the Labour "remember the Tories in Scotland" video? The party that introduced the poll tax. And what exactly have Labour done about the poll tax? Simply multiplied it by 20 for their own needs that's what.
It doesn't matter WHO you vote in. The politicians will run things for their own benefit not Joe Public's.
Whoever gets in, we all lose....
nickbaldeagle01 1 year ago
"Vote Labour, get Tory. Think about it!"
Ok. I've thought about it. And I think that you need to accept that Gordon Brown and anyone else can admire Thatcher without completely endorsing her politics. To think otherwise is childish.
Though in reality there's barely any difference between Labour and Tory anymore. And this is because socialism is unworkable and Thatcherism makes sound economic sense. To quote Thatcher: "Socialism is dead. Even Labour have turned their backs on it."
KBurn289 2 years ago
Actually, Thatcher made much better things for the working class people than any of the socialists. Thanks, to her economic programme we all became richer. When Tony blurr was blowing state's money it was because of her. Otherwise, there would be simply nothing in the treasury. ;)
asmodeus585 2 years ago
We've never had a socialist government in the UK (yes, that includes every Labour government).
For a few working class people lucky enough the keep their jobs during Thatcherism, they probably did do well. However, Scottish industry dissappeared because of Thatcherism, leaving mass unemployment across the central belt, which still exists to this day.
And let's face it, signing on is hardly a fast-track the high-life.
BoabBarca 2 years ago
Working class isn't the whole society. It's not some kind of sacred cow that we should praise all the time in every circumstances. Britain, as a country, after Thatcherism was much stronger than before it, it is a simple fact.
And a politician shouldn't be judged by what he/she did to one individual or even several groups of people. The state of the whole nation is what really counts.
As for the term 'socialist' - nowadays everyone uses it as they want. So did I. ;)
asmodeus585 2 years ago
Stalin killed millions of people but turned Russia into a superpower. Should we praise him then?
Thatcher didn't fix the problems of the 70s, she just changed them. She put millions of people out of work, encouraged everyone to get into debt and steered the country into recession. These are the real facts of Thatcherism.
BoabBarca 2 years ago
No. These are just your opinions. ;)
asmodeus585 2 years ago
I'm afraid not, I mentioned three things which definitely happened. Anyone who was there at the time, Tory or not, would say the same. It's like saying it's only an opinion that we went to war with Argentina under Thatcher.
The only opinion is whether or not you think unemployment, debt & recession are good or bad things.
BoabBarca 2 years ago
In this case it is very strange that so many political commentators and economists praise Lady Thatcher and President Reagan for what they did. Nobody's perfect, but it's silly to state that she was the worst PM this country ever had.
Btw, your thinking is wrong, because you forget that Thatcher had to deal with problems left by the Labour. She had to make some drastic decisions, otherwise this country would completely fall. But don't worry, Britain will sink anyway...
asmodeus585 2 years ago
I mentioned that above, as I said, Thatcher just changed the problems. We went from things like unions being far too powerful to wholly useless. Everything went to far to the right. As a result, British industry was ripped to shreds and millions became unemployed.
As far as I'm concerned, Britain's already sunk.
BoabBarca 2 years ago
The problem of modern politics is (in my opinion) our outdated mindset. We think left or right, socialism or capitalism. I believe that both this system are wrong. Human nature isn't socialistic, nor capitalistic, it isn't even sth 'in between' . It's just completetly different. Man is a social creature and without society he could not exist. On the other hand, he also needs some privacy and wants to own things others don't possess. We will probably never achieve harmony that suits both needs.
asmodeus585 2 years ago
What you're talking about is socio-economics and the balance therein. I personally think government should focus more on the social & less on the economic side (although obviously having to pay for social policies somehow).
Thatcher opted for economic policies at the detriment of lot of necessary social policies and this is why so may people hate her. She made millions of people's lives worse & things haven't really recovered since then.
BoabBarca 2 years ago
I would LOVE Thatcher to come back! If she came back then Scotland would be outta the UK in seconds!!! PLEASE COME BACK!!!!
Free Scotland!!!!!
Saor Alba, thig ar latha
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GEORGIANGUSTIL 2 years ago
stop sucking up to thatcher brown!!! you bastard thatcher is the conservative hero your nothing like her your just a sly git!!!-like callaghn!!
GEORGIANGUSTIL 2 years ago 5
Hear Hear!!! She is ours.
Mickmars90 2 years ago
Lady Thatcher is absolutely fantastic.
libauth 2 years ago 3
What was wrong with the Old Labour? Jesus Christ this is a joke!
twizzer88 3 years ago
It lost four elections in a row.
SuperTrekNerd 2 years ago
Come back, Maggie! We need you today!!
omgomg53 3 years ago 3
Yeah, Maggie is the best!
Annukka91 3 years ago 2
May she live another 500 years ... and may she suffer each and every day of that 500 years. Then we bury her with her four horses!
lawofduality 3 years ago
MAGGIE MAGGIE GET TAE FUCK!
she is a bitch canna wait till she snuffs it :)
euanrocks 3 years ago
Gordon is right, Thatcher's the best!
no to SNP, no to Scottish Independence, no to Socialism, YES to the UK!!!
ngai1842 3 years ago
Are you forgeting that us working class people are part of the UK?
Cos' trust me we proberly make up more of the population than the other classes.
And to top it off your a motherfucking french swine!
XE0G 3 years ago
It's time for independence for Scotland, England and Wales then England can vote Tory and the rest of us can be free of them.
freescotlandnow 3 years ago
Thatcher forever!! Freedom Revolution!
LibertarianEurope 3 years ago 2
When the history books are written Margaret Thatcher will occupy several volumes! Gordon Brown will be lucky to occupy a semi-colon. And he dares to compare himself to her!
morgansifer82 3 years ago
Well he did copy blair by inviting Lady Thatcher to No10 for a nice cup of earl grey tea.
GreetingsEarthPeople 3 years ago 3
I must be alone in seeing both sides of the Thatcher argument. Domestically she could be brutal- calling the miners the 'enemy within' was divisive and cruel. She was also far too cosy with Pinochet- on the other hand, she stood staunchly against the evil of communism- a necessary move.
CULAVE 3 years ago
Mrs T, killed the union and turned Scotland against the Tories, so at least she did something right!
freescotlandnow 3 years ago 3
no comment
CULAVE 3 years ago
now how did I get minus three from a neutral standing? bloody hell......
CULAVE 3 years ago
I HATE THATCHER AND BROWN
CELTICI888 4 years ago
We need Thatcher back...turned this country from the Sick Man of Europe to a real force again..Brown is not fit to lick her boots..and shame on you Mr Brown..you used to hate this woman, now you admire her..pathetic!
steps1 4 years ago
Wish Maggie was around these days. What have we become, God help us.
Look at Japan, they were nuked twice in the second world war, and had a stronger economy than us 20 years afterwards.
Socialism eats away at law and order, patriotism and entrepreneurship.
Goodbye Labour, people have seen you for what you are, TRASH. It will be many years before the British people vote you in again.
Snapper4298 4 years ago 2
Snapper says look at Japan, see how well it did after the war. Japan was not allowed to re-arm and still wastes little on 'defence' spending. That's why Germany did so well following the war too. The UK throws away 35 billion a year on 'defence'! Well., we do keep in with America I suppose.....
markfairford 3 years ago
Yeah get in the Tories, they're a LOT better. Wee Dave Cameron, Blair Mark II, it's almost as democratic as a US election. Any colour politician as long as they are blue. Labour are indeed rubbish but the Tories are no better. Find an English independence party that doesn't hate Scotland and you will be laughing.
freescotlandnow 3 years ago
the government is fucking shit there is no opposition to any of them
how the fuck are we supposed to survive we all poor as piss and they are letting energy people put price up I'm cold already
fucking cunts they don't understand normal people
DjGizzo 4 years ago
thank you maggie for saving us going commie
benbarclay20 4 years ago 4
Funny how Brown falters when saying he is a conviction politician
dragonlee90 4 years ago 5
Greatest Prime Minister of my lifetime.
Brown - give me back my pension you theiving dullard.
Buggsy61 4 years ago 5
Labour or Tory, historians will judge the grim social legacy that the unionsts left Scotland.
"We will laugh the day that Thatcher dies,
Even though we know it's not right,
We will dance and sing all night"
nighttraintotula 4 years ago 3
that bastard sold us out, any true scot would never have said this
1888Scott 4 years ago 14
@1888Scott Thank fuck he's out then. True scot? hahahahaha.....freeeeeeddddddoooooom
LunchtimeLoonies 1 year ago
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Margaret Thatcher singlehandly saved the UK from being the first developed country reverting into a developing country.
hirudold 4 years ago
and stole childrens milk from school.evil bitch
toptop90 4 years ago
New Labour = Old Tories indeed.
rolandsausage 4 years ago 7
Thatcher die soon. never forgive never forget. Saor Alba.
eoin1916 4 years ago
Taken a long time for Gordon & Tony to admit that Margaret Thatcher dragged bankrupt & basketcase Britain kicking and screaming into an era of prolonged prosperity,the benefits of which are still evident today.
We also have to thank her for keeping Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock out of office...long live Maggie!!!!
DalekNazi 4 years ago
Agree with you mate.
SirGallahad23 4 years ago
m15 carried out the loindon bombings. and the queen orded it. chain of command,(all police and army knows how this works.proof go tothe 4the bomb pt1-5 or london bomings proof. daniel obersheki was on the number 30 bus. he recorded police harassing him.listen to voice recordings. WAKE UP PEOPLE
apsert 4 years ago
please leasrn about the red and blue degrees of freemason. once you have you will see its a 2 sided coin. always has been forget all sides bickering. its all planned that way. wake-up. look up mr icke or jordan maxwell or micheal tsarion. PASTE N COPY THESE NAMES. AWAKENING IS ON.
apsert 4 years ago
It's taken 28 years, but I think this is the final icing on the cake of what she tried to achieve.
A Labour prime minister so openly identifying with her and her premiership cements a new political and economic climate in this country. There's no more left-right conflict. I dare say it resembles very much the Liberal-Conservative consensus of the nineteenth century - a period of extraordinary growth and prosperity.
nizhinsky 4 years ago 2
Margaret Thacther was the greatest Prime Minister that Britain has ever had!
rkozzy369 4 years ago
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are u joking?
she was a ugly slag. probalby one of the worst prime minister off all time and places
16416408 4 years ago
Margaret Thatchers appearance has no relevance to how she ran the country. She done an excellent job, I myself am a socialist but she saw problems and she was striven to repair them.
Ikazi 4 years ago 3
typical thatcher lover,enjoys bathing in boiling hot water until skin peels off sort of person
toptop90 4 years ago
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It's not about her appearance, arse hole. It's about what she did for this country, Margret Thatcher wasn't called the Iron Maiden for nothing! And as far as I'm concerened, being this country's first woman prime minister is something to be proud of right there!
666gothicbunni666 4 years ago
1. Nobody questioned her appearance.
2. She wasn't called the "Iron Maiden" she was actually called the "Iron Lady".
3. What she did for my country was make 1 out of every 5 unemployed.
UncleKnapsack 4 years ago 3
Iron Maiden was a devise used to torture or kill by slowly draining its victims so its probably far more suitable.Its fantastic Britain had a woman as a leader just tragic ,in my opinion , it was her.
aglackin 4 years ago
@666gothicbunni666 1 in ten
MrLuvlyJubly 1 year ago