POLICE ASSAULT on Ian Tomlinson, who died at G20 protest UK news guardian co uk

[idontlikeclair]

ther waz no need he was no tret to the public or any of the offisers n its not the first time police have killed or injerd unsuspecting members of the public if he was wearing a suit not tracksuit bottoms he would still be alive . rip

[Hamzalove1]

The "Independent" police complaints commission is a fraud it is simply a white wash! The police side step this commission with their help and support!

The British public feel the role of the IPCC ridiculous and deliberately inadequate!

From the BBC question time, to media and politicians to the grass roots of UK citizens!

IPCC stop betraying the British public & step down & allow a truly Independent and truly representative organization seek out and stop police corruption and abuses !

[61TUNER]

@Hamzalove1 WE ACROSS THE POND BELIEVE THE WORLD SHOULD ARM UP,AND THIN THE HERD OF DISEASED SWINE. INCLUDING ALL LEADERS,ETC.

[engineerman5912]

such a relief to realise that close the eyes is a narrow minded idiot your comments are noted and should you be walking the street and get knifed wait a see how the police help you lol lol go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!

[reo24]

Ian Tomlinson, a man whose wife says that he has an alcoholic problem, is already staggering along & if you see the whole video you see him go left in front of the police who then go right - & so does Tomlinson! He does this a couple of times before a policeman pushes him out of the way as he could have been perceived as deliberately getting in their way. Also, being drunk (who staggers like that sober?) he might have already fallen & got the fatal injury. The press today tell you how think!

[engineerman5912]

@reo24 you must be a copper mate or never experienced police brutality first hand ............ its obvious to anyone that excessive force was used even the ipa are investigating the fact that the copper was out of control and reacted in a manner unbecoming ...

[CloseTheseEyes]

@engineerman5912 Yeah, my opinion is you're a fucking twat.

If you're intentionally walking slow, blocking the police and their procedures then that's your own fault.

The police have a job to do, they're there for a reason and cretins like you take for granted the safety and security you have because of police who are a phone call away when you need them. Don't bother calling the police next time a knife-wielding man breaks into your house, you take for granted the freedom/safety you have.

[idontlikeclair]

@reo24 can tell u r a copper



[CraigieRS]

he's a stupid idiot that on his own accord walked through police who were only doing there job's they obviously pushed him away because he was in the middle of an area where there were incidents happening with protesters it is unfortunate that he died but the police officer did what he is paid to do and that is to protect people how was the police officer supposed to know that he wasnt a protester possible of causing harm to other police officers or members of the public.

[MusicPredominates]

@CraigieRS : No. You silly-willy. G20 meetings are an expression of wealth ; how the organised wealthy stand over the democratic state. The state then lunges out and kills the innocent. The first world war continued because of HIGH FINANCE ... the second world war arose because of HIGH FINANCE ... Ian Tomlinson passes on because a British Bobby presumes to be the agent of HIGH FINANCE !

[MrBowsmith]

@CraigieRS He was apparently simply trying to go home after work, (he sold newspapers), every route he tried, he found blocked, additional footage confirms this. The footage shows him to be no threat, he was struck from behind. He may or may not have had a drink or two. None of this alters the facts as exposed by the camera, the man wasn't there to protest anything, he was just an innocent struck down, brutally, if I may say so.

[shrewsno1]

I hope he's happy!there's one policeman that got bullied at school

[shrewsno1]

I hope he's happy!there's on policeman that got bullied at school

[brokenhalo2001]

WTF....WHY THE FUCK DID THEY JUST SHOVE HIM !

[digwillhachi]

we live in a police state and are being trained to fear the almighty hand of force.

the-truth-is-here . com

[industrialfun]

BORING! The guardian is shit.

[OnlineTechSupport]

@ohmeathead Sorry, for the irrational behavior and misunderstanding. I reread your comment and You misinterpreted what i wrote which was "Do you believe a man should die for just simply being in the way?" and i was giving a little scenario when i stated "What if that was a relative of yours? Never did i state i believe he deserved to die. Please note that i reamed you out because i interpreted what you wrote the same way you interpreted what i wrote.

[OnlineTechSupport]

@ohmeathead What an idiot i am? You believe a man should die because he is in the way? It's people like you i despise, you think you know it all but really know nothing. I can guarantee you will never make over 100k a year and judging from your intellect and respect for authority you obviously play by the rules. You have much to learn working class citizen. Continue to Fear the police and the law, this world was not built to corrupt and the answers don't LIE before you.

[goldie1ooo]

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[spartan5477]

Vindicated.

[ElWenoElFeoYElMalo]

Quite outrageous that the policeman won't be punished, even if he hadn't intented to "kill him". If any other person did that in a regular quarrel,and the offender died they'd go straight to prison.

[ohmeathead]

Don't understand why mu comment was removed.. it wasn't offensive..just telling it how it is.

[looknfortruth]

anybody know the policemans address?

[tysonnnn1]

THE POLICE ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS ! ! ! !

[stoneymillward]

uk police force are right wing thugs. making a charge stick against these people is really difficult.. need to get a really good brief. i have just bought my ian tomlinson t,shirt. and a percentage goes to the cause.

[australpride]

hope it hurt

[tedrick79]

police states do suck - you guys need a reboot - we had to pull one in 1776 from you - you should think about it sometime

[mojomillar]

this video made me feel sick to my stomach, its bullshit that police officer should be in jail, its crazy i don't care what anyone says that man done nothing wrong nothing at all!!!!! why did he die ? Its not just that, what about his family, his friends the people who lived in the same street as him, one man killed for no reason make massive diruption in communities and helps fuel this feeling that we are all just a number and theres nothing we can do.

Its time 4 change, hear our voices!

[redgargle]

all police are the same...... they are all on a power trip. this was MURDER

[TrekJeff]

And people wonder why others can't stand the Brits. This is the same attitudes that were practiced centuries ago in Ireland and Scotland. Brits, get out of Ireland and Scotland and stay to your own stinking rock.

[tomsfarmboy]

@TrekJeff thats rich coming from a yank. I`m sure the indigenous REAL american people would have something to say about this. Its twats like you who supported the dirty stinking sneaky IRA and gave them money and credibility. You know f### all wee man, now piss off and keep out of matters you dont understand or have any knowledge of.

[snappa52]

@tomsfarmboy The English colonized America, and their fellow Englishmen kicked the King's men out. This comment is so historically stupid on so many levels I dont know where to start.

[MrMorg19]

@TrekJeff Scotland comprises the "Brits". Probably another clueless plastic paddy.

[111700jay]

@TrekJeff fuck you you dirty fucking yank

[rambo4229]

the bent police murderd hih y 4 fuk becus thay ar all bent cunts a c a b

[MrDiverlad]

Should have cleared out of the way really.

[Robys1st]

sure, this is a little messed up. but if that guy was really "attempting to get out of the way" he wouldn't have been where he was. he atleast would be at home. better yet, had a job. lessons to be learned here...

[OnlineTechSupport]

lesson learned? this man deserved to die because he didn't get out of the way? now i don't live in london but i just happened to come across this video. I don't agree, the man was doing nothing wrong honestly he looked drunk and was assaulted for no reason they could have went around him. They wanted to use force though because cops are no different then the people they arrest they get high off power and by hurting someone they make that person powerless making them feel more powerful.

[JoshuaPowless]

@OnlineTechSupport

No one deserves to die, he wasn't threatening anyones life.

[OnlineTechSupport]

@JoshuaPowless

Did you not read what i said?

[JoshuaPowless]

@OnlineTechSupport Holy Crap, I just re-read it and was completely irate about it I didn't read the punctuation ... My bad.

[gangstaz001]

Its a wonder how a minor beating like this could have resulted in death...people in the middle east are beaten like animals but still manage to live to a good ol age of 60..

[db187db]

fuck the police hope that fed gets what he deserves fucking faggot

[thefunkygeezer]

Why oh WHY HAVEN'T THEY PROSECUTED THE KILLER YET?

THE EVIDENCE IS ON THE VIDEO. COP WITH NUMBER HIDDEN ATTACKS MAN FROM BEHIND, WHACKS HIS LEGS, THEN APPARENTLY DRIVES THE END OF HIS BATON EXTREMELY FORCEFULLY INTO THE VICTIMS BACK, KIDNEY AREA..

VICTIM DIED, AS COULD BE EXPECTED, OF INTERNAL BLEEDING. THERE'S CLEAR MANSLAUGHTER/ MURDER CHARGES HERE, NOT TO MENTION CONSPIRACY TO PERVERT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE (dodgy post mortems, police lies, etc)

Excuse caps, this situ is hideous

[VisForVengeance1]

yeh and we all us brits had guns then maybe our country would be as fucked up as yours where you cant even walk down the street without some little hoodlum shooting you!!

our countrys reasably safe we dont shoot each other ( not that often anyways lol )

we fight with out fists and were the pussys?

LOL yeh right

[ar15expert]

too bad you liberal pussies in england outlawed firearms. if you were still armed maybe you could intimidate these asshole cops just as they intimidate you. that bully cop might not be so brazen because he wouldn't know if he's about to catch a .45 to the face (or 9mm in your case eurofags)

[CanPBnon]

Yeah, more guns, thats the answer - pull ya head outta your ass!

[AKUNJIG]

then the cops will beat you down and be arrested for threatening a cop with a loaded weapon dumbass

[ar15expert]

Hey faggot, I said "MG-42" and "mop up". Now re-run your simulation.

[maddog5stl]

Nothing has changed since the Viet Nam protests of the 1960's. Police abuse their authority and justice suffers.

[gatersaw]

It's very likely the police baton caused a contusion on the back of Tomlinson's leg and then created a blood clot that could have moved to his heart.

[u4ealounge]

That was a cheap shot, a really cheap shot, and he should go to prison for gbh, and all his little cronies should be suspended for neglecting their duty to help the man and arrest their fellow officer for assault. Police are not above the law.

[mykoniato]

aparently the fall cause some damage to his head or somewhere else.. So your theory is that its just a coinsidence? haha you brainwashed..

[kronckjc]

Why cant you just say Mooo, Mooo, and continue to be our peaceful little cattle. Dont you know your place in OUR lives.

Regards,

NM Rothschild

[elelisrael]

they are protest against the new world order or what?

[ccnt89]

new world order will own ur ass and ur whole family stop trying to find out about them

[sue22sue]

the police lost it that day....

not for the first time

[MrJimjam12]

Why are the Left still moaning on about this ? the G20 riot organizers are fully responsible for this death and should be prosecuted, I notice how most of them have gone to ground because they know whats coming - cowards as usual.

[thefunkygeezer]

People are 'still moaning on about this' because the victim is still DEAD.

tHOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH DO NEED TO BE PROSECUTED WHETHER THEY WERE WEARING A POLICE UNIFORM (numbers hidden) or not

[MrJimjam12]

I said Why are the LEFT still moaning on about this ? as the organizers of the G20 riot are as much to blame for this death, they got what they wanted, as the pre-G20 riot web sites show.

Could this be why these people have gone to ground ?

Rather quiet on May Day wasn't it ? Not even a Womble to be seen , what a joke and a sham the left is these days.

[enmity666]

MrJimjam12, you are a fucking dumbass

[realkingkado]

alot more blood will be spilt before we as a nation can call our selfs free

[gavstar12345]

dmotors that it? sad little ladyboy ;{~

[gavstar12345]

should have given him a few on the floor aswell. fukin hippy.

[dmotors27]

tosser

[enmity666]

you're an idiot

[MrJimjam12]

Perfect example of why the left are seen as a joke and are in such a mess, no argument just violence and abuse.

[thefunkygeezer]

What does the killer cop do with the baton after whacking the victim's legs?

Watch it carefully. He doesnt sheath it but lunges at Mr Tomlinson, giving such a forceful jab in the back, WITH THE BATON END, that the victim is sent flying.

Such a 'blunt instrument' blow typically kills and an exponent trained in baton use would be aware of this.

For that reason I believe the cowardly police sadist responsible is also a MURDERER

[fr3ddi30]

i was here. the police, what fucking animals

[hi48]

FUCK THE POLICE FUKING PIGS!!

[MeeAndChicken]

this makes me sick!!!! i already hated the police but this just makes me hate them moreeeeeeee

[daviduk40]

As always, no stone will be left unturned until the police are cleared of all charges.

[loz4545]

Although you can't see it, Ian tomlinson does not fully get his hands out of his pockets in time, he gets them about to his midrift, he pivots over his hands and hits his head hard on the ground, you can tell because of the angle of his body, and how he is dazed, and by the reaction of the nearest man.

Murder

[thefunkygeezer]

There is a big difference between a push and a forceful jab with a blunt instrument, which may have made the difference between life and death to Ian Tomlinson.

The officer clearly intended to at least maim Mr Tomlinson - I hope he receives due justice

[lilstu50]

those protestors are scum, they deserve to be hit . GO on give me thumbs down you stupid bastards.

[loz4545]

ian Tomlinson was not a protester.

[uyesu]

jesus christ. the people around here that CAN actually spell end up being asshats.

[musicmosaic7]

I know, right? Most everyone who has the decency to spell out words (insted of doin dis) are usually bastards. I have met a few exceptions, but the majority of fully- worded comments are agnostic and antagonistic towards a group. What has the world come to.

[thefunkygeezer]

WATCH THE FATAL ATTACK CAREFULLY - Looks like the supposed "push" was actually a jab with the end of the baton that had just whacked his legs. Such a jab is likely to cause internal injuries & haemorrage...

A trained officer should be aware of the dangers of such a blow ... so was it MURDER

Lessons are going out to ordinary people. Don't turn your back on a cop. As even in this atrocity they protect their own they must all be as bad as the actual killer swine we see in action here

[FranekM]

Sir Robert Peel when he first created the Metropolitan Police said " The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent on public approval of police actions and maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police ARE the public and the public ARE the police "

[raptoreyes666]

MURDER in plain sight

[cowpax]

once you loose the right to protest or question the goverment ,then you are no longer free ,what the fuck happend to the land of the magna carter

[Houck1337]

The problem is he looked like he was standing there on purpose to slow down police. It's unlucky he died.

[mikeybrumbrum]

Here's the catch people. I's not even illegal for him to do that. He will just say it looks worse than it was, and wiggle out of it, and spend several mths off, on full pay.

And they are all freemasons.

[THEROASTCHICKEN]

That's what happens when you get in the police way, they just knock you down.

Better stay out of their way.

[adyingbreed82]

well theres the voice of a brave person if ever i read one! fuckin hell what a nation of lions we really are

[danmalak7]

wach this (world chaos-canada riot set up-north american union part 1...)and(the script flipped on police!) time to wake up!

[danmalak7]

the cops are not there for us anymore, payed by us for the goverment corp they dont give a fxxx about you!

[seekYEthetruth]

what If somebody pushed your mother over like that?

f**king out of order. the old bill done themselves no favours

[jendrixhendrix]

They didnt say that. They said that could have been the reason. At that time the information coming in was limated. ALL CCTV was switched off becasue of a change in law and it was only when the Guardian sent the video in that the information changed. The man was being obstructive prior to the video and his death was of natural causes, not of a baton strike. The officer will not be up for manslaughter charges. Ian had been pushed and shoved by dozens of officers and protesters that day.

[seekYEthetruth]

but what if someone pushed your mother like that?

[jendrixhendrix]

Dude, yeah, i'd be pissed off, and want them told off for it and re-trained, but not done for murder! It as a bloody riot fella. People are gonna get shuved and batoned on the legs, its what happens at riots.

[MMABJJ1987]

Somthing else happend before this. He was not Mr inocent.

The police had the hole day of these fucking hippies punching and charging them...they are going to be abit agro. they are just doing there job to. Easy for us to point the finger of blame when we are not taking that abuse all day.

[hgjt678]

No doubt there is more to this - his health anyone?

[woodallc87]

fucking guardian.

if all the unwashed and unemployed end up in one place dont be surprised if one of them dies

[smeeinit]

Quite.

The Police have been using those tactics for years. It's really scary when they barricade you in to a small area.

I wonder how many more people will be put off attending peaceful protests after this.

[jendrixhendrix]

I suppose you should be left to smash up RBS instead then. Darn it, they should not even deploy police at all. Let you lot just get on and comit criminal damage and breach the queens peace as much as you like i suppose. Good point!

[smeeinit]

Have you ever been to a PEACEFUL protest?

I have plenty of times. Hardly anyone is ever there to cause any trouble. I don't object to the police being there, it is their job to keep the peace. I wish they would do just that, sort out the few trouble makers there are, not intimidate people, block them into small areas or hit them for no reason. If you think they don't do that I suggest you go along sometime and see it with your own eyes.

[jendrixhendrix]

Answer me this: who brings petrol bombs to peaceful protests?

[smeeinit]

Very few people. Yet the entire police force bring weapons and a thuggish attitude, or so it seems.

Anyway, what's your point here? Ian Tomlinson didn't have a petrol bomb did he? Or any other weapon.

[jaychristie909]

Whether or not he died from this, the police had no right to start shoving him around; he wasn't threatening them and was clearly walking away from them. Who would've thought the fucking police would start acting like a gang of yobs attacking an innocent man. Bastards.

[ohmeathead]

@jaychristie909

So if did the same thing and i'm pregnant, no nothing about whats going, a police has the right to push me or hit me from behind which i can tell you if it was a person who robs your place and running after the crime had been committed you hit them, you will be done for it.

[workratehigh]

This tomlinson character is sauntering across a police line like he was going 4 a walk in the park When encouraged to move out the way he ignored the police and continued to walk across them.The policeman was right to push him.

[maxkurz]

acab

[hadmebefore]

do they have proof of him breaking a window?

WHy should the police have the power to push people around just cause they want to be bullys and thugs and then claim obstruction of justice, Police are a law unto themselves. A state ran mob who get away with far too much.

[teknomaya]

he died for other stuff nothing about 'police assault'....police assault uuauaua I'm laughing

[cowpax]

DICKHEAD

[teknomaya]

sa theur are

[hadmebefore]

if I had done that I would be charged. Police have a get out of assault or mrder free card, not only that but somehow have the right to make up police reports. Charge them with murder.

also even if he was a protestor, what F`ing law is he breaking from walking down a public street just because the police say he should move.

[AshOwnzU]

ii Hatee Theseee Piigs ThIINking tHEre all Big n ThhaT :@

[DJwrush]

The Police know special martial Arts Moves, looks like a professional move to me

No Wonder the man died

watch?v=i3htcJ-_4S4

[CelticReject]

He went down really heavily. If he had a heart complaint that could well have sealed his fate. Copper should never work in the force again. However, I expect he'll get off and the main stream media will bury it... as usual.

[lilstu50]

Does that mean police officers should do a full medical before pushing someone.He was deliberately getting in their way and should have expected to get pushed.

[musicmosaic7]

Was he deliberately getting in their way? It looked like he was merely walking home. He, in no way, looked like he was protesting or preventing the police from doing their "jobs" of denying people of their freedoms of protest. We were given the ability to disagree, so why don't we use it? Because of prejudiced officers who believe in the status-quo, and will not stray from it. It's the twenty-first century. Act like it.

[orangeandbanana]

Sooo glad you put this video up..shows exactly who the thugs are.

[stubones]

Maybe Mr Tomlinson wouldn't have been annoyed at the police (if he was) if they had let him leave the area earlier when he tried. Walking slowly in front of the police is NO excuse for assaulting him. It appears now the offending "officer" has come forward to the IPCC. Its the least he could do. Apologizing to his victim's family is the next step.

[testiou]

ACAB

[dgorbach]

brilliant that someone got this on film and also knew what it was days later. should be easy enough to find an overweight policeman who was with this crowd of police at that time. his build will give him away. also, great work The Guardian!!!

[adethelemon]

Think Stockwell.

Think of lies, coverups and tall stories.

I see history repeating itself.

WE MUST STOP THE METROPOLITAN POLICE FROM MURDERING ANY MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE

...Or next time it could be you.

Metropolitan Police

Not Working together for a safer London.

[theblob34]

so true

[tannedstamina]

Why was he walking slowly in front of the riot police when it was obvious that they were trying to move people back?

It's obvious that he was antagonising them by deliberately walking as slow as possible.

I understand police aren't supposed to use force, but personally I wouldn't be screwing with riot police.

[noncompliant2]

"It's obvious that he was antagonising them by deliberately walking as slow as possible"

.

He had heart problems and maybe cound not move faster... what would have him do run? He was clearly nonconfrontational. Think, please! By the way stop enabling the actions of those that are here to suppress your freedoms...

[tannedstamina]

The way you want it our police will have no powers.

If riot police can't forcibly move people then what is the point of having them? You make it out like he was smashed over the head by dozens of police officers. In reality he was pushed over. He wasn't assaulted on the ground. He wasn't kicked.

You make out like he was totally innocent. Why was he the only one walking in front of the police? Everyone else had figured out the police were moving them back.

[hadmebefore]

it wasnt a riot, its a protest which is completely legal , even though a police state would try and have you belive it isnt.

I dont want to be policed by murderers, thugs and liars.

[tannedstamina]

It was a protest, but once people start assaulting police (which happened) and breaking windows it's called a riot.

Plus, if police tell you to move you move. If you don't you're obstructing them, which is illegal.

[ohmeathead]

If you look at again the police officer that pushed him hit him on his upper thigh before pushing him. This man was just a man who sells newspapers. This was a totally coward move on a person who could not defend himself for being pushed or hit upon. You didnt see them pushing and shoving anyone else that appeared in the footage. This guy should be sacked and punished for his actions and those officers who stood there that did nothing. The guy was innocent.

[tannedstamina]

1. You didn't see them pushing anyone else in the film because everybody else had responded to the police's requests. He just happened to be the only person stupid enough to be antagonising them.

2. He was walking slowly in front of the advancing line trying to slow them down. He was not just a man who sold newspapers. He had deliberate actions.

[cowpax]

i hope you get kettled on your way home from work or mybe your mum ,granmar

[teknomaya]

Impossible ah'm eur gran' block

[ohmeathead]

Even if he was so what, still no need to hit with him then push him over, all they needed to do was arrest him for abstruction are people bloody thick these days. Police need to deal with real people that use violence FFS.

[ohmeathead]

Still no need for violence. There is such a thing called obstruction and preventing the police from doing their duties they could have arrested the man.

[Spartakus420]

they could have arrested him, but they choose to assault him from behind, and that ended up killing him in the end. So obstruction is a moot point because he was walking on a sidewalk, no law against that, so there was absolutely no reason for that pig to use force they way he did.

[lilstu50]

Even if he has a heart problem it don't think it stops him walking in a straight line, away from the police.

[noncompliant2]

Have you ever tried to walk somewhere while you are in pain??? Did you make a straight line? I haven't and nor has anyone else I know.

[gerwazjana]

SONS OF F****** BITCHES!!!!!!

[1966BOBBY]

Shocking.

We should stop calling the police and rename them stasi.

Do not cooperate with authority on any level - their authority is dependent upon our acceptance.

[Th1nkFastOrElse]

OMG, your a cop then that is blatant assult! They don't even help him, they caused his death, police brutality they are meant to protect us not harm us, pfff only a matter of time before marshall law kicks in. We can expect more of this.

[noncompliant2]

The POLICE are all brainwashed to REACT and NOT ACT in compliance with common sense. It is only obvious when you see things like this.

[stubones]

You must be a cop to excuse that blatant assault. You call that moving him on? The rest of the world will see it as a vicious assault on an innocent man by a thug.

[truexposure]

Say No To Ban On Photographing Police or they will get away with murder !!

[yourcamden]

The Ban On Photographing Police is to prevent this sort of thing happening ie people photographing the Police when they commit deadly assaults.

The time you know that you are living in a Police state when they arrogantly assault people in full view of the public knowing that they can get away with murder.

We need a Peoples Court to try these people as English judges are now far too corrupt to allow justice to prevail.

[teacherdude]

Thanks for posting this. The more widely it gets distributed the better.