Toxic Tar Sands -- You have to see it to believe it

[jazu40]

If we had such a strong environmental movement in our cave times,....we would would never leave them.

[telemov]

Refine that stuff in Alberta and keep your pipeline out of BC. We don't need BC looking like Mordor like many parts of Alberta already do.

[bniziol]

Stop tar sands development. It is simply the right thing to do. But I have some news for the author of this video. When you say "our boreal forests" you are misleading the viewers. It is not yours. You are an American and we Canadains are are giving you nothing so don't for a moment sugest it is yours.Now that we have cleared that up thank you for your information.

[Topazman12]

Pink Mountain, British Columbia, in Canada. They have trillions of barrels in oil wells that are capped and not used.

[lostbuffalo]

The energy companies have been fighting Nebraska a long time over wind power. Nebraska has a law requiring any power generator to make the power available to the local grid. The energy companies want to generate Nebraska wind power and sell it interstate at higher prices without making it available to Nebraska consumers. They don't want Nebraskans sucking up all their carbon credit juice so they want the permission to tap our wind without selling to us...more corruption

[lostbuffalo]

Y'all thumbs this up so it stays on top? It isn't cheaper to pipe the oil to the gulf, crack it then truck it back north than it is to crack it up north and truck diesel and gas to the consumer. The pipeline has one purpose. To keep this oil out of the hand of domestic refineries and get the oil to a shipping port tax free for export.It isn't intended for the American consumer it will be sold on the world markets. Any energy Americans use is sold overseas and on paper bought back with mark-up.

[lostbuffalo]

@lostbuffalo co"businessmen" will do anything for a buck everything they do is corrupt. as far as anything else business wants, you can guarantee they have an angle they are hiding.

The pipeline issue, the environment is NOT the corrupt angle. Environment is giving you something to fight about that doesn't endanger their angle... exploitation of local resources with tax free transport to global markets bypassing local consumption.

[PanzerBlitz43]

@lostbuffalo Canada has become a terrorist state. The civilized world should treat it as such and use their militaries to destroy Harper and Ottawa and any of the terrorist oil companies up there who are destroying the earth. There is NO excuse for Canada.

[MaupoNaio]

So you people who want this pipeline built. Are you going to be the ones who go and clean up my backyard when it spills? IF not, STAY THE FUCK OFF MY LAND OR ILL SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE .

[ancientswordfighters]

I know those of you in favor of the pipelines want jobs and I want jobs too. But if the planet is destroyed there is no getting it back. They should cautiously proceed the project to insure saftey. Not just rush blindly into it.

[lostbuffalo]

@ancientswordfighters I'm not in favor of the pipeline. the pipeline is a way for them to get the oil from canada to word markets without paying dues to the jurisdictions the oil runs through. they want to bring oil through Nebraska without paying Nebraskans for the privilege of doing so. The thing about global economists is they believe everything belongs to them for free and that everyone who lives where they want to operate for free is just in their way.

[lostbuffalo]

@ancientswordfighters Instead of a pipeline I believe it should go by truck and rail.

The transport would then generate revenue for the jurisdictions it travels through.

they are trying to sell the pipeline idea as promoting law gas prices. How is piping the oil to the gulf and trucking it back to the north cheaper than cracking it up north and trucking it to the stations? it isn't. The big lie is that this oil is not intended for US consumption they will export it.

[justanoldman1]

The environutbars are just too stupid to even talk to.

[52tincup]

Economic Terrorism.  Sell crazy some place else.

[lostbuffalo]

Forests grow back

[ancientswordfighters]

@lostbuffalo not if the ground is covered in oil

[lostbuffalo]

@ancientswordfighters why cover the ground in oil? they strip the soil, dig it out the oil and put the soil back on top. the oil was there naturally and they are removing some of it.

If anything the tar sands is the worlds largest natural oil spill clean up operation.

[lostbuffalo]

If you don't restore earth's carbon dioxide the earth will continue to die

[lostbuffalo]

Large areas of vegetation shade the ground preserving groundwater, the plants also effect the atmospheric conditions effectively calling down rain from the sky. Vegetation isn't just a result of increased precipitation...it is a cause.

[lostbuffalo]

Carbon isn't pollution it is air for plants. burning coal and oil cleanly, removing the sulphur and other pollutants with scrubbers restores to the atmosphere precious carbon lost when those plants were buried in the earth. Earth's atmosphere used to be 3x denser than it is today. burning fossil fuels is restoring the planet. increased levels of carbon dioxide co2 allows plants to thrive on less water. these plants then grow in deserts shading the ground protecting groundwater.

[warpedmotion]

@lostbuffalo are you for real dude. I would love to see you research on this.

[lostbuffalo]

@warpedmotion go look for it. it's been out there and known for several generations that the earth is losing atmosphere to space. T-Rex had lungs the size of a horse. for T-Rex to have survived the atmosphere had to have been at the very least 3x or 300% denser than it is today..not more oxygen but more everything until it is 3x as dense. if we burned everything above and below ground we would not get close to replenishing the atmosphere lost to space.

[gonzojunshi]

CO2 is not a toxin everything living emits co2 the largest producer of co2 is the ocean and the warming of the ocean dictates the rise and fall of co2 the rising temperature precedes the rise in co2 by 300-400 years. We cant afford energy and food as is clean energy is way too much money and I see no reason for it on the basis of climate change climate change is caused by the suns activity. I see clean energy as further shackles on those trying to keep their heads above water. much appreciated

[Mk1rceme]

Fuck Forestethics! Go pick on the Saudi's and see what you get....your head on your lap probably. These fucktards just slime the easy targets. Assholes!

[abesgl500]

Chiquita backs down today, Don't fuck with Canada.

[gwheyduke]

Once Keystone or $yncrude has become filthy rich by destroying your forests and water supply they will buy the rest of your government, The End.

[TheRebbler]

Bituman has been leaching from the area for thousands of years people. Hey, who funds you guys, OPEC ? RUBES !!!!!

[TheRebbler]

So,you guys proud of yourselves ? Forest ethics aligns themselves with Chaquita bananas, you know, the same company that was fined 25 million in 07 for supporting guerilla factions in south america !! Hope a big douglas fir drops right on all you granola munchers !!! LONG LIVE THE PATCH !!!!!!

[Carrotcake212]

@heJonnduncan FUCK YOU OIL LOVING SCUM OF THE EARTH!

[TheJohnduncan]

STOP YOUR FUCKING COMPLAINING YOU QUEER TREE HUGGERS!

[Pwnstar57]

@TheJohnduncan fuck you pig

[cmgrace328]

@TheJohnduncan wow--ignorance on parade--dude-if you disagree let's have an intelligent discussion instead of the immature name calling.

[gonzojunshi]

I'm here and I am against the U.N. treaty of the seas I am against using food for fuel I am against using natural gas as fuel as I am of great concern to what this will do to keep me warm in the winter as well as its ability and delivery as a fuel in automobiles. I am pro nuclear. But so much going on I am for any domestic programs to increase oil production and drive down costs and to me that is drilling anwr.

[warpedmotion]

@TheJohnduncan get a brain dumbass,

[MaupoNaio]

@TheJohnduncan

You're the one who's upset, clearly. Deal with it like the rest of us you pussy.

[gaiagale]

@rider4343 well you are the polite one ...I do walk whenever I can ...Walking is lovely! ....especially these snowy winter days and evenings

[Masterfilm15]

JOIN THE FACEBOOK GROUP "STOP THE OIL INDUSTRY"

IT;S TIME WE BAND TOGETHER AND FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLANTE FOR OUR FUTURE KIDS,,

[LiveCaster]

@Masterfilm15 To STOP THE OIL INDUSTRY would be the biggest mistake anyone's ever made. It would lead to an economic crisis that could take a decade to reverse.

[brother0161]

@LiveCaster the biggest mistake anyone has ever made? an economic crisis lasting a decade? change your frame of mind; this kind of excavation is ecologically devastating. this planet is far more essential to us, and to life itself, than any industry. blunt phrasing: we are at the point of threatening the future of life on the planet, and our life patterns have to change to prevent that.

[gaiagale]

@LiveCaster what are you talking about?!?!? ...we have been in "OIL INDUSTRY economic crisis" for, at the very least, A DECADE ...the OIL INDUSTRY has created it and we conscienious volunteers have been cleaning up the spills

the OIL INDUSTRY is like a car careening sideways ...shifting into reverse could only worsen the situation ...steering into the skid and coming to a complete stop is the only effective solution

[R4gN4r0k478]

hippies are queers.

[MrBlasz]

dude you don't buy the oil we will just sell it to someone else. So basically we can not be stopped. Bawhahahah. But seriously other countries will buy it and you will just lose out. Such is the machine. Also thats a Sagd plant so that steam coming out of the plant. Learn the process please

[MrBlasz]

dude you don't buy the oil we will just sell it to someone else. So basically we can not be stopped. Bawhahahah. But seriously other countries will buy it and you will just lose out. Such is the machine.

[lorivold]

The reality is, that Americans cannot sustain their country without Canada's

fossil fuels. But if I were American I certainly would be more concerned

about water. Canada is one of the most fortunate nations when it comes to available freshwater: Canada has only 0.5% of the world's population, but its landmass contains approximately 9% of the world's renewable water supply.

[rich33ca]

You Guys have no clue !!!Your not seeing toxic smoke what you are acctualy seeing is steam. Again the bs is sold as truth and if you buy all this your a fool. The oil sands are just a fraction of this beutiful province. Come see for yourself dont be a sheep and follow these lyers and there propaganda to make money tugging on your heart strings. Alberta is so much cleaner than cally by alot so look in your own back yard first before you attask somewhere you have probaly never been.!!!

[TheAutocraze]

@rich33ca exactly, the rest of alberta is so natural and clean, it makes up for the tar sands. plus its better to buy domestic oil than to rely on the middle east.

[SuperAnimalDrummer]

@TheAutocraze Haha... this is the dumbest thought I have ever read. It makes up for the tar sands, because the rest of Canada is so clean? what kind of logic is that? That's like saying, I eat really, healthy, so I can smoke crack.

[Mikedimerc]

Fuck Forest Ethics they are just like Greenpeace all about the capital I live downstream from the tar sands and Forest ethics SOLD OUT and most other NGO are sell out..The First Nations have more RIGHTS to the lands and resourses then anyone on the planet...back up your First Nations and get involved, get educated and get it right this time damn it

[wkcraven]

Hey Mike, Here's what ForestEthics' Todd Paglia said about First Nations land rights in a recent column on the Canadian Boreal Forest Agreement:

"We have a truce with the logging industry, but neither side of this agreement makes the final decisions here: that is up to First Nations governments and provincial governments in Canada. In other words, our truce is subservient to the aboriginal and provincial authorities that control the actual land base. This is a key underpinning of the accord."

[christensenaa]

Actually Forest Ethics has proven over and over again that they are brilliant at applying pressure in innovative and communicative ways that work. Check out their Victory Secret campaign. I'm glad they are on the job! Go Forest Ethics.

[pazomblez]

does anybody really think that if we just ask nicely that the tar sands project is going to be closed down?

yeah, if we all just love the CEOs enough their minds will be changed. I wish that were true.

[TMTdorame]

I guess we should just leave the high heating bills and the $20/gal. gasoline for our children to deal with. Hey, now that's a great plan ...except that we're almost there!

Get some balls and some imagination and lets deal with this grim situation.

[stonerj0e]

enjoy your heating bill and enjoy trying to get to work when gas hits $20/gal . i don't think we would survive for long . -peace-