Holy shit. That is just wrong right there. And I thought the encounter with the MTA conductor in my video was bad, but obviously I was wrong. Hope everything is okay.
Ive been in law enforcement for 17 years. This is embarrassing. A 16 year old kid with a camera posing no threat, being cooperative and answering questions posed to him hardly calls for this treatment. Check his camera, check his person, check his phone, check his vehicle, call his mom then and send him on his way with a warning. Done.
You need to educate yourself on your rights. There were things you could do and say to make this situation go a lot better (for you) and get the bad cops off your back quickly.
"See something, say something" is going to lead ot a lot more of this kinda bully-cop action.
if you havent gone to court yet why were they asking you question with out a legal guardian with you at the time you asked for your mother that's it.
While I am NOT a lawyer, I sincerely hope that you are fighting this BS with everything you have. I would suggest contacting the media and making the PD as embarrassed as possible. Should the railroad want to protect their right of way ... it should be posted. Also, treating a MINOR in this manner is appalling. I would also consider a charge of harassment on the RUDE officer involved. Just how was he physically threatened by a 16 year old? Did they read you your rights?
Check out the video on my youtube account titled "Winnemucca Police". I was waiting on a bridge on a public sidewalk for a stack train to come and out of no where these two cop cars come flying down the road going psycho on me trying to falsely accuse me of outrageous BS as the whole area is photographed on google maps for the world to see.
This is atrocious and despicable, the only words that I can use to to label the local police as, I cannot comment on the MTAPD because I didn't here enough of what their personnel does.
Look, as an engineer, we see people hanging out by the tracks, I don't know what type of area this is in, but in many areas I go through I get rocks thrown at the windows and even shot at. Many times I will report someone by the tracks if they look suspicious. That being said, this should have been handled by the railroad special agents. Local police have no jurisdiction on the railroad. And I doubt that a train crew reported you because it would be referred to railroad police.
These cops over-react because there was a number of them present. It became a pack mentality. They literally got into a feeding frenzy, each wanting to out-do the other. That's the ONLY reason this went to the arrest stage. If I was your parents I'd sue the arresting police department's city for $250,000 dollars.
HOLY SHIT!!!! Fortunately we're not that anal-retentive here on the CALA. All we ask is that you not get on the equipment. Other than that feel free to take all the pics and vids you want. It's pathetic that's all these cops have to do is arrest you for simply enjoying a harmless & fun hobby.
I Love it when these uniformed goons with the Deputy Dawg syndrome have to act so big and bad. Either charge the kid or kick him loose. If I was him, I would have a lawyer and take them to court. Being a minor, they not only violated his rights, the illegally detained him!!
Good thinking having your cel phone recording the conversation, and putting it on YouTube. We need to police the police these days...the police forces are filling up with bully cops, and we need to let these departments know that we aren't going to stand for it.
I'm 15 and a railfan. Apparently being in my boy scout jacket and having a camera and tripod while trackside is enough to warrant 5 cops to stop and ask what I was doing.
Wow that is so gay, I'm 19 and I only been stopped by the cops once in my railfanning life, and he didn't mind, but these bunch of assholes went over the top...I just hope this doesn't stop u from doing it, advice is go somewhere that they can see wat ur doing, platform of some kind like a old station, and have like a couple ppl around as well, either a friend that likes to railfan or if there is some guys railfanning wen u get there...but be away from both the tracks and crossings, as we have
Stupid cops. In my city, they are actually doing what they were trained to do. Stop drugs, catch robbers, arrest murderers.
@Runkleforskin Seriously, WTF is your problem? All we do is enjoy our hobby, and you harass us. Harassment is against the law, and you'll be punished for it. By us.
They would have hated us, man we use to run across the tops of all the train cars, hits rides, flatten coins, throw pumpkins at the train (this was funny, but hey we were kids), all manner of what not....Those where the days...
Now in your case it is absolute BS, me as a kid would have been justified, but what they did to you was WAY out of line. You got caught by some power hungry police officers who's power was strait to their heads. There are good ones, just not those ones.
If I did get this ticket I would call the railroad and explain your story and ask them if they want to drop your trespassing charge. You are getting a ticket for trespassing. It is their property and if they side with you they can simply get the charged dismissed. Keep in mind trespassing is a simple misdemeanor. It is no more harmful than a jaywalking ticket. Best not to argue with the cops if possible and deal with it later. I would avoid crossings.Too many people and they always call the cops
If I did get this ticket I would call the railroad and explain your story and ask them if they want to drop your trespassing charge. You are getting a ticket for trespassing. It is their property and if they side with you they can simply get the charged dismissed. Keep in mind trespassing is a simple misdemeanor. It is no more harmful than a jaywalking ticket. Best not to argue with the cops if possible and deal with it later. I would avoid crossings.Too many people and they always call the cops
You had a letter...but you didn't have it with you at the time did you? Probably would have been smart to have it there with you. People are all sorts of stupid and you have no idea how you were called into the police with your so called 'device' (camera). These guys admittedly are way over the top and out of line though...and yes, I'm a cop. There are good cops out there. The letter probably had little to nothing to do with the DA continuing the case...plan on it getting dismissed.
well it sure sucks tath railfans are being arrassed to the point of arrest , theres truly lot more for police to look for but bother railfans , hope things doont get the same around here in texas , never ever , thumbs up man and count whit all of us you tube subscriber s of ur page
This is total bullcrap. I railfan in Folkston, Georgia and the cops there are okay with it. Theres even a platform built for us. You did nothing wrong. You were not on railroad property or near the tracks at all. Those cops are assholes.
This is the upmost disgusting thing i've ever seen from my state of New York. It only backs up the vision of it becoming a "Police State". Before 9/11 happened Railfans were on level with the Police, but after that it became a phobia suppecting every Railfan as a terrorist. This is typical MTA, and cases like this absolutely disgust the public and it's why the public hates the MTA in general. I'm greatful that I want to leave this state. As for this 16 year old kid I hope he wins in court.
that is not right I railfan all the time no way you can get arrested on public property that is not illegal to railfan there!!! Fucking asshole of a cop!
I am sorry this had to happen to you, and I hope this doesn't ruin your hobby at all. It is always great to see young railfans get into it as I was the same way when I was your age, but it was a whole different world then. I can't believe the police in this video are that concerned over this situation when you have people the same age who are robbing, into drug/drinking, etc., and you have a person at this age doing an inicent hobby such as this. Shame on the police involved in this situation.
I was harrassed by the Bozeman Montana police before 9/11 for sitting in my car watching the trains go by. Some snitch of an engineer squealed on me. I learned to go by bicycle and be less noticable.
@niselat YEAH!!!! And that device is called a camera. I don't mind them asking for my ID. But being chewed and/or arrested for taking pictures of trains? That's what pisses me off.
Wow those cops were assholes, why were they so hostel? Why were they making up fake accusations, and refusing the kid a phone call. You should have writen the state and send this audio or held a court case against the cop.
I say your rights were definitely violated. Were the charges ever dropped? If not, did you try filing a complaint against the police department? Because they clearly violated your rights and ignored a letter of permission from the railroad. That's grounds for a lawsuit right there.
If you're disgusted by the imbecile little Greenburgh PIGGY playing badass with a 16 year old because the PIGGY is obviously a major-league LOSER, please call or email the Greenburgh Chief of Police at the following:
Joseph DeCarlo, Chief
telephone: 914.682.5340
fax: 914.682.5342
email: jdecarloATgreehburghnyDOTcom
Ooh boy, did we catch a terrorist!
NO, you caught a 16 year old kid who likes to take pictures of trains.
Whichever cops are heard on the video, you're FUCKING JERKOFF JOKES!
You should post the names of the Greenburgh P.D. pig(s) who are heard in your video so that viewers can share the hate.
Clowns like this deserve to be named/outed, mocked and embarassed.
Dullard PIGGYs from a piss-ant town like Greenburgh, NY aren't even a little scary for those of us who know our rights and are practiced in dealing with loud-mouthed douchebags like the ones on this video.
ok, you are 16. you were 6 during 9/11, you were born the year of the Ok city bombing and u werent even around for the first WTC bombing. u need to understand the impact of these events. you may think you had permission, and the right to b there. maybe you did. but their responsibility supercedes all of that. i agree that these cops were assholes - but to a degree, that is their job. had you just took the a-holeness for a few minutes i bet they would have calmed down ran ur info & let u go
What a crock of horseshit you spew. The law of the land is the United States Constitution, not the laundry list of excuses police use to violate peoples' constitutional rights (WTC 1, Oklahoma City, WTC 2).
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
"Suspicious" activity gives the police the right to demand ZERO from a citizen. Reasonable suspicion OF A CRIME per Terry v. Ohio is the legal standard.
hate to say it but i think the cops were justified. taking photos of trains near an active line in the post 9/11 years is suspicious. ur intentions r irrelevant. i am a railfan and have been approached more than once. but by keeping a cool head i have always walked away, sometimes with an apology from the cops. if the cops roll up like assholes, dont try b a bigger asshole. they are the ones with the authority. COMPLY! if you are not doing anything wrong, chances are u will b relased.
@ColeOnly777 I wondered how long it would be before I saw someone come out with the 9/11 line. The whole idea of how everyone should be so scared and suspicious of everyone after 9/11 just gives credibility to officers like the one in the video. Anyone who thinks that taking photos in a public place post 9/11 really needs to join the rest of us in the real world.
You have nice officers & then there's PIGS. Clearly the pigs like to talk to & treat people in a patronizing & condescending way. I wonder if it's a black thing? I wonder if that sort of treatment is a violation of your civil liberties? I hope you win & sue them so it feels like to them they've been sodomized with a wire brush.
OMG, Those cops were ridiculous! I guess that's what happens when you give an idiot a gun and a tin badge! Sounded like profiling and harassment from here!
I hope you argued the Miranda rights not being read. That case would never hold up in court. They MUST MUST MUST read you those rights in order to have the case hold up in court. Also, If you have permission to raIlfan there, why do the police insist on harrasing you anyways? I am a railfan too. Just make sure you keep your ID, railfan smarts, and common sense with you at all times. I actually got one officer fired for trying to arrest me for no reason. He couldnt even state what I did wrong.
what a bunch of cocks they should be all shot fuck them retarted police officers like this guy he knows there are rail fans out that what a fucking retarted but then again this is what is wrong with our country they are doing what ever they can to control us and its time we stand and tell them to fuck off.
so did you play this recording in the cort and you know you can sue the hell out of them for not reading your rights.
Well I can understand from the Police's standpoint. The Railroad was trying to protect their property, just like you would protect your property if someone was trying to video tape you while in your house. The Police are not fully aware of every railfan out there. It's not like railfans have a national listing that the Police can look up. But at the same time this is stupid. Police should be a little nicer.
@othrower74 I understand what you are saying, but I had permission from the railroad and it wasn't the railroad police wasnt the department that arrested me. It was greenburgh that had no knowledge of the railroad
For god sake.he just wanted to film a train.and the cops make it sound like he wanted to blow something up.Police please go and arrest some one who is realy doing some harm.killing/ stealing/speeding ( hay there is something you ain't never done before.But please leave some one who is not doing no harm to anyone alone.Go make your quota some where else
The District Attorney did not like the fact I had a letter from Metro North saying that it was ok for me to take photos there. So now the case was ajourned to Septemeber 2nd.
Those fucking sons of bitches need to learn some respect for railfans and their passions and if they can't respect our rights, they can just go fuck themselves 'cause we ain't terrorists with "devices", we are normal people doing our thing the that we like to do and I think it was completely irrational for them to arrest you. You WERE NOT doing anything wrong, but they were. Keep that in mind and hope they get fired for what they did.
this same shit happened to me. i was trying to get a video of these new style trains with 2 levels and a weird shaped front end. and i was arrested for being there and it was called "tresspassing and destruction of state property"
holy crap, and i thought the rail cops were asses where i live, im right by a train tunnel that leads to the states(in Windsor Ont Canada)and ive been pulled over and questioned for why i have a camera and a tri pod set up, 9/11 f*cked the whole worlds security system, in Windsor the CP tracks are lit and are being taped 24hrs a day
This crap has to stop. Railfanning, liike shooting planes at airports, has been a photographer's staple for decades. Some folks not connected with the arts just don't get it. There needs to be a nationwide coalition of photographers to fight this ignorance. Another sad part about this incident besides the obvious is that while these officers were detaining this guy there might have been a REAL crime being committed somewhere.
I support you and the rest railfan community, were always being targeted by police no matter how close we are to the tracks. The police should never arrest a person without reading them their rights. Stay strong man this is a tough world were living in.
Wow, you poor thing, I'm so sorry that this happened to you. It's a shame what this country is coming too. I've taken photos on rr tracks before with never a problem, but then again, I'm not in a major city. I hope you win your case and sue the a-holes and take their pensions! Good luck man!
Also, if they hand cuffed you, they were out of line. It is illegal to detain anyone unless the police feel threatened and that they are POSITIVE that you broke the law.
If this ever happens again, tell them you request to speak with their Watch Commander immediately . By law they must oblige. Also, speak only when spoken to. Don't say "But I'm answering your questions!" Many cops get pissed off by this. Answer their question, thats it, nothing more nothing less. Also, ask for their names. They must do so.
However, on your part, never ever volunteer info without being explicitly asked for it. Don't tell them they can look in your camera because that opens up an unclosable door. There's a thing as "serach incident to an arrest" but never give cops permission to search anything without a warrant. And never resist arrest or commands. If they do wrong they get nailed in court, but if they do wrong and you resist then you are screwed. Last, ask them to define what "near" & "device" mean.
You should send me a message with the names of the Greenburgh P.D. pigs who are heard in your video so that I can share the hate and post their names.
Clowns like this deserve to be named/outed, mocked, harassed and embarassed.
Send the names to me privately and I'll post them.
Dullard PIGGYs from a piss-ant town like Greenburgh, NY aren't even a little scary for those of us who know our rights and are practiced in dealing with loud-mouthed douchebags like the ones on this video.
@gregorygrice If exercising your constitutional rights is suspicious, so be it. Don't ever take a police officers word as the truth. They are there to arrest you, not be your friend. Seeing how you were underage/non-violent they should have never handcuffed you and that possibly was illegal for them to do so.
There's 2 key elements against the cops here: 1) After you asked for a lawyer or your parents that's when all questioning should have ceased. It sounds like it did not but your video is only 3min so what goes on after? 2) A tipster calls in someone kneeling with a device near the tracks, and you fit the description. OK, cops check it out, but now that you have court summons you have a right to face your accuser. No accuser, no case. (continued to next comment)
I have to say something because this bugs me. Having been in law enforcment there's no need to yell until the subject gets belligerant. Obviously the yelling cop was trying to get you upset. The other one sounded like he was trying to calm you down. Some cops like to rile people in hopes of getting them belligiarnt so they can get them on resisting arrest, an unbeatable charge regardless of why they're there in the first place. (continued on next comment)
Since I saw this I don't ever plan on visiting New York. The terrorists win again. This is what they wanted. Innocent civilians being harassed for what would have been considered an ordinary activity before 9/11. Three police departments called for someone railfanning. What a huge waste of resources. I wish you all the best with your case. If I was you I'd release this recording to every news media in your area and contact the ACLU. Their behavior was ridiculous!
Wow, you and your camera where such a threat to the railroad and that officer. This country is heading fast towards the days of "1984" and "Big Brother". The next thing to happen is you are about to be eraced. Has anybody seen the movie "V for Vengeance"?. Totalitarian societies all look like this.
Hell the fuck Yeah! Call yo mommy cause when she gets their all hell is going to break lose. They thought Mike Tyson was bad, piss off a mom and you will have WWIV on your hands. Well at least that is how my mom is.........
@Triv27 Thank you for your concern. There is no way for them to erase the recording, because I have took the time to have several copies of the recording in many locations
@TheGrayman1234 No I wasn't I've been here many times and MNRR officials have passed by in their cars and even waved to me. There is also a concrete company that is right next door. The owner parks his car near the tracks and is ok with me being there.
@TheGrayman1234 The summons itself is actually pretty interesting. The offence is trespassing but in the information section it states "Enter and remained unlawfully next to the railroad track area". Standing next to the train tracks on public property is not illegal. So basically you got a ticket for trespassing on public property. No where in the summons does it state that you were actually on the railroad tracks but rather just in the "railroad track area".
I'm hoping this never happens to me, yet these occurances happen more and more. Maybe us railfans should claim discrimination against a hobby or something? :) in all seriousness, this is horrible. Hope everthing turns out okay for you.
Like I said before this is not communist Russia! Those cops were totally unprofessional. It's all part of a plan to take our freedoms away from us. Under the new world order that has come about under the Homeland Security after 9/11/2001.
This is unconstitutional! We must stand united and fight this thing.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT MORE PROOF: I will be posting a copy of the summons, and hopefully by the end of the week I will have the full recording fixed so that my address, and other private info is edited out.
I can't get the link to work Gregory, but go to railroad.net. I'm sure you're familiar with that site. On the metro north forum, at the top of the forum on a sticky post, is the railroads photo policy. It is a memo from the railroad chief of police to his officers that non commercial photography has no restrictions other than not to trespass on railroad property or be in a dangerous area. I don't see where you were either trespassing OR in a dangerous area. Sue those keystone cops.
@ctfirebattchief Oh yeah that memo. I was told a while ago that that memo is now invalid, because those people are not in power anymore. Thats why I carried the personal email, which they totally disregarded. The MTA has also posted in their rules on the website that photography is legal systemwide
@AuroraFoxNEC That does not matter at all, you can take pictures, use tripods and use a flash of whatever you want as long as you are on public property. That MTA rule only applies to MTA property not to public property. There is no law or rule that makes it illegal to take a video of a MTA train using a tripod. As long as you are on public property you are free to take pictures and videos of whatever you want to.
The main point is that if this were the Amtrak NEC, and you registered with them as a railfan, they would have no right for harassing you. Amtrak started that program because railfans wanted to help Amtrak police the line, and in meetings told them that, straight up. Maybe NYMTA needs to follow Amtrak's lead.
A mixed reaction; I didn't view the video but wanted to comment on your text.
The main thing is that this is a Metro North (NYMTA) owned line and not an Amtrak owned line. That means some prohibition of being "on the line" for safety reasons...
...which the police should have just came out and said so, given you the summons, and sent you on the way. But 5 cops from 4 agencies, being unprofessional? Grab a lawyer.
WOW! Sounds like that cop doesn't see much action in them there parts. Please do yourself a favor kid, tell your parents to hire a lawyer. The judge will probly throw your case out, that's when you sue the police departments involved and the a-hole officers themselves. PLEASE get a lawyer!
Definitely make sure this video gets out, that is how you make a difference. I hope you got the names of all the officers. There was another video that came out about a month ago with someone taking pictures and was detained. If you were 10-15 feet from the track and behind the barrier you can kneel down and do whatever you want. If you really wanted, and if you have a good case which I believe you do, you could get money out of this by threatening to sue for police misconduct.
You should post this on the CNN website via IReport (and everywhere else possible) so that it can garner more publicity. There's nothing a police department hates more than bad public relations and these pieces of human excrement need to be exposed. It's crap like this that gives a bad image to officers everywhere.
Sue these fucking cops, these are true morons, a teen photographing trains, what a bunch of assholes, sue these fuckers personally and see how these assholes like it this fucking shit has got to stop, get a bunch of photographers together and go to this same spot and photograph trains, then see how brave these prick cops are, it's not one teenager.
Many years ago, prior to the attacks of Tuesday 11 September 2001, I was homeless and would sleep in my car next to the railroad yards, just so I could watch passing trains.
Only twice, did police stop and ask what I was doing, and that's all they did, just making sure I was safe and not freezing to death.
It was before most of you young'uns were born, and America was different then.
Those cops have no right to harass him,What is this communist Russia! Those cops are a bunch of losers,This is how the powers that be will usher in the New World Order ,President Dwight D.Eisenhower warned of The Military Industrial Complex taking over the country. With militarization of our police forces,homeland security etc,is unconstitutional.
@rangers1030 cmon dude first off most of the comments below says pigs why you not going off on them ?my sisters a cop so shut the fuck up no one said they was all bad soo you can suck a pig dick
@franchboy Your right. Unfortunaty it the bad cops (the ones that think just because they are cops they can boss you around, their the true pigs) that give the good cops a bad name.
@franchboy ....cause urs was the first i saw....oh wow....u tell me 2 stfu and 2 suck a pig dick...real mature...thanks bro...i dont think ill ever recover from that.......was trying to prove a point but i cause u had to be an asshole in return....
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, AND SUPPORT. IT IS WELL APPRECIATED! I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE ACTION, BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THIS ONE SLIDE.
@IIIIIRepoIIIII Thank you. I'm trying to make everyone aware of situations like this., and that I am not the only one that this happens to. but this account was really drastic.
Another example of rougue cops who take the law into their own hands. I hope you are contacting a lawyer and pressing charges against the poor excuse for a police officer that harassed you.
Holy shit. That is just wrong right there. And I thought the encounter with the MTA conductor in my video was bad, but obviously I was wrong. Hope everything is okay.
TrackulaVideos 1 day ago
Sue!!!!
newflyermaniac 2 days ago
Ive been in law enforcement for 17 years. This is embarrassing. A 16 year old kid with a camera posing no threat, being cooperative and answering questions posed to him hardly calls for this treatment. Check his camera, check his person, check his phone, check his vehicle, call his mom then and send him on his way with a warning. Done.
pele6922 1 week ago
You need to educate yourself on your rights. There were things you could do and say to make this situation go a lot better (for you) and get the bad cops off your back quickly.
"See something, say something" is going to lead ot a lot more of this kinda bully-cop action.
chisleu 1 week ago
if you havent gone to court yet why were they asking you question with out a legal guardian with you at the time you asked for your mother that's it.
iceman997799 1 week ago
handcuff you because he doesn't wanna get hurt...
...by a kid with a camera...
...what a pussy that cop must be.
Smoovious 2 weeks ago
Greg,
While I am NOT a lawyer, I sincerely hope that you are fighting this BS with everything you have. I would suggest contacting the media and making the PD as embarrassed as possible. Should the railroad want to protect their right of way ... it should be posted. Also, treating a MINOR in this manner is appalling. I would also consider a charge of harassment on the RUDE officer involved. Just how was he physically threatened by a 16 year old? Did they read you your rights?
Rattlebunny 2 weeks ago
@Rattlebunny His description says "Keep in mind my rights WERE NOT read to me (which is required by law)."
1775novten 2 weeks ago
Best of luck, kid. Make a complaint for disturbing your recording with that loud police radio,
NarodnieMstiteli 3 weeks ago
Check out the video on my youtube account titled "Winnemucca Police". I was waiting on a bridge on a public sidewalk for a stack train to come and out of no where these two cop cars come flying down the road going psycho on me trying to falsely accuse me of outrageous BS as the whole area is photographed on google maps for the world to see.
CoastStarlight11 3 weeks ago
wtf..this is stupid. Let the kid be
TennesseeHOScalePass 3 weeks ago
Any updates on the case?
im1greatman 1 month ago
@im1greatman I am now past my Greenburgh trial and recieved an ACD. Now I'm in the second phase.
gregorygrice 3 weeks ago
@gregorygrice
I tried finding the other segment(s), and the video your camera captured with no luck.
Would you mind pointing me to them?
Smoovious 2 weeks ago
Those cops are assholes.
MtaBus5102 1 month ago
I see what happened, they thought you were planting a device like a terrorist so the were on high suspition.
MtaBus5102 1 month ago
was your case dissmesed
1974rail 1 month ago
This is atrocious and despicable, the only words that I can use to to label the local police as, I cannot comment on the MTAPD because I didn't here enough of what their personnel does.
101MTA 1 month ago
Look, as an engineer, we see people hanging out by the tracks, I don't know what type of area this is in, but in many areas I go through I get rocks thrown at the windows and even shot at. Many times I will report someone by the tracks if they look suspicious. That being said, this should have been handled by the railroad special agents. Local police have no jurisdiction on the railroad. And I doubt that a train crew reported you because it would be referred to railroad police.
swampcaster 1 month ago
If I was your parents I'd sue the arresting police department's city for $250,000 dollars for emotional trauma.
JetMechMA 1 month ago
These cops over-react because there was a number of them present. It became a pack mentality. They literally got into a feeding frenzy, each wanting to out-do the other. That's the ONLY reason this went to the arrest stage. If I was your parents I'd sue the arresting police department's city for $250,000 dollars.
JetMechMA 1 month ago
HOLY SHIT!!!! Fortunately we're not that anal-retentive here on the CALA. All we ask is that you not get on the equipment. Other than that feel free to take all the pics and vids you want. It's pathetic that's all these cops have to do is arrest you for simply enjoying a harmless & fun hobby.
SCL1306 1 month ago
DUMMYS OF GREENBURGH
inels100 1 month ago
I Love it when these uniformed goons with the Deputy Dawg syndrome have to act so big and bad. Either charge the kid or kick him loose. If I was him, I would have a lawyer and take them to court. Being a minor, they not only violated his rights, the illegally detained him!!
53bigmikejones 1 month ago
yank pigs hassling kids you fucking wimps,go and arrest some murderers ,no you cant can you cos your to fuckin scared of them,
488scooby 1 month ago
FUCK ALL THE ASSHOLES COPS. I been stopped for Standing on the Tracks just for 5 second.
GISALICIOUS 1 month ago
I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE U.S.A.
FANDANGO726 1 month ago
Good thinking having your cel phone recording the conversation, and putting it on YouTube. We need to police the police these days...the police forces are filling up with bully cops, and we need to let these departments know that we aren't going to stand for it.
randommagnum 1 month ago
I'm 15 and a railfan. Apparently being in my boy scout jacket and having a camera and tripod while trackside is enough to warrant 5 cops to stop and ask what I was doing.
codethreeproductions 1 month ago
Wow that is so gay, I'm 19 and I only been stopped by the cops once in my railfanning life, and he didn't mind, but these bunch of assholes went over the top...I just hope this doesn't stop u from doing it, advice is go somewhere that they can see wat ur doing, platform of some kind like a old station, and have like a couple ppl around as well, either a friend that likes to railfan or if there is some guys railfanning wen u get there...but be away from both the tracks and crossings, as we have
csxc408 1 month ago
our first amendment is dead in this country......
paintballsniper5 1 month ago
@paintballsniper5 Amen Brotha!
BubnovPA 1 month ago
Stupid cops. In my city, they are actually doing what they were trained to do. Stop drugs, catch robbers, arrest murderers.
@Runkleforskin Seriously, WTF is your problem? All we do is enjoy our hobby, and you harass us. Harassment is against the law, and you'll be punished for it. By us.
Applachia0928 1 month ago
@Applachia0928
Probably not enough skateboarders in their town they can push around so they can feel more like a man.
Smoovious 2 weeks ago
Shouldent the police be worried about getting Drug dealers and Murderers off the streets instead.
Conrailfan2323 1 month ago
talk about taking "homeland security" to the extreme. nothing better to do than pick on one kid doing nothing wrong.
grvolans 1 month ago
They would have hated us, man we use to run across the tops of all the train cars, hits rides, flatten coins, throw pumpkins at the train (this was funny, but hey we were kids), all manner of what not....Those where the days...
Now in your case it is absolute BS, me as a kid would have been justified, but what they did to you was WAY out of line. You got caught by some power hungry police officers who's power was strait to their heads. There are good ones, just not those ones.
mythril4 2 months ago
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If I did get this ticket I would call the railroad and explain your story and ask them if they want to drop your trespassing charge. You are getting a ticket for trespassing. It is their property and if they side with you they can simply get the charged dismissed. Keep in mind trespassing is a simple misdemeanor. It is no more harmful than a jaywalking ticket. Best not to argue with the cops if possible and deal with it later. I would avoid crossings.Too many people and they always call the cops
Mlwtca 2 months ago
If I did get this ticket I would call the railroad and explain your story and ask them if they want to drop your trespassing charge. You are getting a ticket for trespassing. It is their property and if they side with you they can simply get the charged dismissed. Keep in mind trespassing is a simple misdemeanor. It is no more harmful than a jaywalking ticket. Best not to argue with the cops if possible and deal with it later. I would avoid crossings.Too many people and they always call the cops
Mlwtca 2 months ago
The moment you said you wanted a lawyer or your father present, they should have stopped asking you questions at that moment.
skatecubed 2 months ago
BS! I'm with you on this man! 10-15 feet from the tracks is not on RR property!
indie1361 2 months ago
You had a letter...but you didn't have it with you at the time did you? Probably would have been smart to have it there with you. People are all sorts of stupid and you have no idea how you were called into the police with your so called 'device' (camera). These guys admittedly are way over the top and out of line though...and yes, I'm a cop. There are good cops out there. The letter probably had little to nothing to do with the DA continuing the case...plan on it getting dismissed.
checksixx 2 months ago
well it sure sucks tath railfans are being arrassed to the point of arrest , theres truly lot more for police to look for but bother railfans , hope things doont get the same around here in texas , never ever , thumbs up man and count whit all of us you tube subscriber s of ur page
juvmol 2 months ago
This is total bullcrap. I railfan in Folkston, Georgia and the cops there are okay with it. Theres even a platform built for us. You did nothing wrong. You were not on railroad property or near the tracks at all. Those cops are assholes.
jediman6722 2 months ago
This is the upmost disgusting thing i've ever seen from my state of New York. It only backs up the vision of it becoming a "Police State". Before 9/11 happened Railfans were on level with the Police, but after that it became a phobia suppecting every Railfan as a terrorist. This is typical MTA, and cases like this absolutely disgust the public and it's why the public hates the MTA in general. I'm greatful that I want to leave this state. As for this 16 year old kid I hope he wins in court.
Railroad921 2 months ago
that is not right I railfan all the time no way you can get arrested on public property that is not illegal to railfan there!!! Fucking asshole of a cop!
megs905 2 months ago
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I am sorry this had to happen to you, and I hope this doesn't ruin your hobby at all. It is always great to see young railfans get into it as I was the same way when I was your age, but it was a whole different world then. I can't believe the police in this video are that concerned over this situation when you have people the same age who are robbing, into drug/drinking, etc., and you have a person at this age doing an inicent hobby such as this. Shame on the police involved in this situation.
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rrb761 2 months ago
The policemen sound ignorant. They seem to be crypto-fascists who delight in giving people a hard time.
yarmo28 3 months ago
you deserved to get arrested railfag!
Runkleforskin 3 months ago
@Runkleforskin are you kidding me!? shut your mouth you insolent prick!
MONTGOMERYSaApBt 2 months ago
I was harrassed by the Bozeman Montana police before 9/11 for sitting in my car watching the trains go by. Some snitch of an engineer squealed on me. I learned to go by bicycle and be less noticable.
phehrachii1 3 months ago
i almost got arrested for railfanning last year
EMDlocomotives 3 months ago in playlist Railroad favorites 2
You had a DEVICE! After terrorist flew cameras into those buildings, I don't blame the cops for being suspicious
niselat 3 months ago
@niselat YEAH!!!! And that device is called a camera. I don't mind them asking for my ID. But being chewed and/or arrested for taking pictures of trains? That's what pisses me off.
cc10266 2 months ago
@cc10266 Srsly what are you going to do? Have the pigs never heard of Google Maps satellite view?
niselat 2 months ago
Wow those cops were assholes, why were they so hostel? Why were they making up fake accusations, and refusing the kid a phone call. You should have writen the state and send this audio or held a court case against the cop.
keep your head up kid you did nothing wrong :) .
Firstclass91 3 months ago
I say your rights were definitely violated. Were the charges ever dropped? If not, did you try filing a complaint against the police department? Because they clearly violated your rights and ignored a letter of permission from the railroad. That's grounds for a lawsuit right there.
IIDragonslay3rII 3 months ago
If you're disgusted by the imbecile little Greenburgh PIGGY playing badass with a 16 year old because the PIGGY is obviously a major-league LOSER, please call or email the Greenburgh Chief of Police at the following:
Joseph DeCarlo, Chief
telephone: 914.682.5340
fax: 914.682.5342
email: jdecarloATgreehburghnyDOTcom
Ooh boy, did we catch a terrorist!
NO, you caught a 16 year old kid who likes to take pictures of trains.
Whichever cops are heard on the video, you're FUCKING JERKOFF JOKES!
ForTheDefence80 3 months ago 15
You should post the names of the Greenburgh P.D. pig(s) who are heard in your video so that viewers can share the hate.
Clowns like this deserve to be named/outed, mocked and embarassed.
Dullard PIGGYs from a piss-ant town like Greenburgh, NY aren't even a little scary for those of us who know our rights and are practiced in dealing with loud-mouthed douchebags like the ones on this video.
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ForTheDefence80 3 months ago
ok, you are 16. you were 6 during 9/11, you were born the year of the Ok city bombing and u werent even around for the first WTC bombing. u need to understand the impact of these events. you may think you had permission, and the right to b there. maybe you did. but their responsibility supercedes all of that. i agree that these cops were assholes - but to a degree, that is their job. had you just took the a-holeness for a few minutes i bet they would have calmed down ran ur info & let u go
ColeOnly777 4 months ago
@ColeOnly777
What a crock of horseshit you spew. The law of the land is the United States Constitution, not the laundry list of excuses police use to violate peoples' constitutional rights (WTC 1, Oklahoma City, WTC 2).
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
"Suspicious" activity gives the police the right to demand ZERO from a citizen. Reasonable suspicion OF A CRIME per Terry v. Ohio is the legal standard.
ForTheDefence80 3 months ago 3
hate to say it but i think the cops were justified. taking photos of trains near an active line in the post 9/11 years is suspicious. ur intentions r irrelevant. i am a railfan and have been approached more than once. but by keeping a cool head i have always walked away, sometimes with an apology from the cops. if the cops roll up like assholes, dont try b a bigger asshole. they are the ones with the authority. COMPLY! if you are not doing anything wrong, chances are u will b relased.
ColeOnly777 4 months ago
@ColeOnly777 I wondered how long it would be before I saw someone come out with the 9/11 line. The whole idea of how everyone should be so scared and suspicious of everyone after 9/11 just gives credibility to officers like the one in the video. Anyone who thinks that taking photos in a public place post 9/11 really needs to join the rest of us in the real world.
tutankahmun 1 month ago
You have nice officers & then there's PIGS. Clearly the pigs like to talk to & treat people in a patronizing & condescending way. I wonder if it's a black thing? I wonder if that sort of treatment is a violation of your civil liberties? I hope you win & sue them so it feels like to them they've been sodomized with a wire brush.
OlympusHeavyCavalry 4 months ago
OMG, Those cops were ridiculous! I guess that's what happens when you give an idiot a gun and a tin badge! Sounded like profiling and harassment from here!
bluehillscpr 5 months ago
those police officers were fucked up. why would you have a bad device? i would of shot the officers lol. (i am 11)
UP5140SD70M 5 months ago
I hope you argued the Miranda rights not being read. That case would never hold up in court. They MUST MUST MUST read you those rights in order to have the case hold up in court. Also, If you have permission to raIlfan there, why do the police insist on harrasing you anyways? I am a railfan too. Just make sure you keep your ID, railfan smarts, and common sense with you at all times. I actually got one officer fired for trying to arrest me for no reason. He couldnt even state what I did wrong.
nsrailfann4life91 5 months ago
Any update to the court case?
trainzrule5 5 months ago
Your friendly TAX supported police dept....the NEW American gastapo!
crawfordbureau 6 months ago
Make sure the lawyer has this file...
mrdeleted 6 months ago
what a bunch of cocks they should be all shot fuck them retarted police officers like this guy he knows there are rail fans out that what a fucking retarted but then again this is what is wrong with our country they are doing what ever they can to control us and its time we stand and tell them to fuck off.
so did you play this recording in the cort and you know you can sue the hell out of them for not reading your rights.
mccunecp 6 months ago
Well I can understand from the Police's standpoint. The Railroad was trying to protect their property, just like you would protect your property if someone was trying to video tape you while in your house. The Police are not fully aware of every railfan out there. It's not like railfans have a national listing that the Police can look up. But at the same time this is stupid. Police should be a little nicer.
othrower74 6 months ago
@othrower74 I understand what you are saying, but I had permission from the railroad and it wasn't the railroad police wasnt the department that arrested me. It was greenburgh that had no knowledge of the railroad
gregorygrice 6 months ago
For god sake.he just wanted to film a train.and the cops make it sound like he wanted to blow something up.Police please go and arrest some one who is realy doing some harm.killing/ stealing/speeding ( hay there is something you ain't never done before.But please leave some one who is not doing no harm to anyone alone.Go make your quota some where else
65bigjoe 2 months ago
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TheMike5765 1 month ago
hold your ground man..unbelieveable , hope someone treats them just as rotten,
john6218att 6 months ago
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ForTheDefence80 6 months ago
The District Attorney did not like the fact I had a letter from Metro North saying that it was ok for me to take photos there. So now the case was ajourned to Septemeber 2nd.
gregorygrice 6 months ago
Good luck tomarrow man.
trainzrule5 6 months ago
that sucks. it sounds like you got the most ASSHOLE cops ever!!!
jbyoung100 6 months ago
Those fucking sons of bitches need to learn some respect for railfans and their passions and if they can't respect our rights, they can just go fuck themselves 'cause we ain't terrorists with "devices", we are normal people doing our thing the that we like to do and I think it was completely irrational for them to arrest you. You WERE NOT doing anything wrong, but they were. Keep that in mind and hope they get fired for what they did.
Best of luck on August 5th, man.
Sincerely,
Mike
railfandude123 7 months ago
Is there any updates to this ?
IIIIIRepoIIIII 7 months ago
@IIIIIRepoIIIII After sitting in Greenburgh Court for THREE hours, the court case was rescheduled to August 5th at 9:00 AM.
gregorygrice 7 months ago
this same shit happened to me. i was trying to get a video of these new style trains with 2 levels and a weird shaped front end. and i was arrested for being there and it was called "tresspassing and destruction of state property"
bikes4sale356 7 months ago
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so, what happened in court
CPWindsorsub 7 months ago
holy crap, and i thought the rail cops were asses where i live, im right by a train tunnel that leads to the states(in Windsor Ont Canada)and ive been pulled over and questioned for why i have a camera and a tri pod set up, 9/11 f*cked the whole worlds security system, in Windsor the CP tracks are lit and are being taped 24hrs a day
CPWindsorsub 7 months ago
This crap has to stop. Railfanning, liike shooting planes at airports, has been a photographer's staple for decades. Some folks not connected with the arts just don't get it. There needs to be a nationwide coalition of photographers to fight this ignorance. Another sad part about this incident besides the obvious is that while these officers were detaining this guy there might have been a REAL crime being committed somewhere.
tomnanD3 7 months ago
What a bunch of arsehole cops!!!!!
RodDiery 7 months ago
I would smack the fuck out those cops and make them eat each other's poo
TheSubwayMustango 7 months ago
Nice to see that the MTA is as fucked up as it was when they harrassed me in 2007 over videotaping from a train leaving NYC...
basspig 7 months ago
Wow idk how i missed this greg. That was terrible =(. Sorry that you had to go thru crying and harassment by those fked up cops.
Saying he doesn't WANNA GET HURT, his ass should got hurt.. Hurt as in FIRED or quit the job since he thinks teens / cams are THREAT!
SMFH! This is why I DONT give respect to ANY COP except those that give respect back..
This 9/11 AGE MUST DIE!!!! RIP to those who died. BUT PHOTOGRAPHY and out RIGHTS must come back!
KEEP TAKING PHOTOS FOLKs DONT LET THEM STOP YOU!!
bebo2good1 7 months ago
I support you and the rest railfan community, were always being targeted by police no matter how close we are to the tracks. The police should never arrest a person without reading them their rights. Stay strong man this is a tough world were living in.
TKDMaster20114 8 months ago
Wow, you poor thing, I'm so sorry that this happened to you. It's a shame what this country is coming too. I've taken photos on rr tracks before with never a problem, but then again, I'm not in a major city. I hope you win your case and sue the a-holes and take their pensions! Good luck man!
Luminara 8 months ago
This shit is fucking insane is this fucking America or fucking North Korea. You should post the names and phone numbers of the cops.
biorgymd 8 months ago
Also, if they hand cuffed you, they were out of line. It is illegal to detain anyone unless the police feel threatened and that they are POSITIVE that you broke the law.
Espeelover 8 months ago
If this ever happens again, tell them you request to speak with their Watch Commander immediately . By law they must oblige. Also, speak only when spoken to. Don't say "But I'm answering your questions!" Many cops get pissed off by this. Answer their question, thats it, nothing more nothing less. Also, ask for their names. They must do so.
Espeelover 8 months ago
However, on your part, never ever volunteer info without being explicitly asked for it. Don't tell them they can look in your camera because that opens up an unclosable door. There's a thing as "serach incident to an arrest" but never give cops permission to search anything without a warrant. And never resist arrest or commands. If they do wrong they get nailed in court, but if they do wrong and you resist then you are screwed. Last, ask them to define what "near" & "device" mean.
kansaspacific 8 months ago
@kansaspacific I thought that being quiet would give them a suspicion of me being a terrorist. So I talked.
gregorygrice 8 months ago
@gregorygrice
You should send me a message with the names of the Greenburgh P.D. pigs who are heard in your video so that I can share the hate and post their names.
Clowns like this deserve to be named/outed, mocked, harassed and embarassed.
Send the names to me privately and I'll post them.
Dullard PIGGYs from a piss-ant town like Greenburgh, NY aren't even a little scary for those of us who know our rights and are practiced in dealing with loud-mouthed douchebags like the ones on this video.
ForTheDefence80 6 months ago
@gregorygrice If exercising your constitutional rights is suspicious, so be it. Don't ever take a police officers word as the truth. They are there to arrest you, not be your friend. Seeing how you were underage/non-violent they should have never handcuffed you and that possibly was illegal for them to do so.
im1greatman 5 months ago
There's 2 key elements against the cops here: 1) After you asked for a lawyer or your parents that's when all questioning should have ceased. It sounds like it did not but your video is only 3min so what goes on after? 2) A tipster calls in someone kneeling with a device near the tracks, and you fit the description. OK, cops check it out, but now that you have court summons you have a right to face your accuser. No accuser, no case. (continued to next comment)
kansaspacific 8 months ago
I have to say something because this bugs me. Having been in law enforcment there's no need to yell until the subject gets belligerant. Obviously the yelling cop was trying to get you upset. The other one sounded like he was trying to calm you down. Some cops like to rile people in hopes of getting them belligiarnt so they can get them on resisting arrest, an unbeatable charge regardless of why they're there in the first place. (continued on next comment)
kansaspacific 8 months ago
Wow. The way those cops treated you is just wrong! You should consider calling the ACLU.
NJTAmtrakGuy 8 months ago
I'm 14 And my Uncle was a cop and I showed him this and he said that that was't right. He said those Dumb ass cops are likely to get sued then fired
randomguy652 8 months ago 10
@randomguy652 This is good to hear. I like to hear from the police's point of view.
gregorygrice 8 months ago
Fuckin' goofs
JTYTGaming 8 months ago
Cops are obsolete. Get rid of them and let everyone carry a firearm.
BadAndyRay 8 months ago
Since I saw this I don't ever plan on visiting New York. The terrorists win again. This is what they wanted. Innocent civilians being harassed for what would have been considered an ordinary activity before 9/11. Three police departments called for someone railfanning. What a huge waste of resources. I wish you all the best with your case. If I was you I'd release this recording to every news media in your area and contact the ACLU. Their behavior was ridiculous!
steelernation77 8 months ago
@steelernation77 I will be contacting them pretty soon
gregorygrice 8 months ago
I guess the douchebags need money really bad.
skinnyshit8888 8 months ago
Wow, you and your camera where such a threat to the railroad and that officer. This country is heading fast towards the days of "1984" and "Big Brother". The next thing to happen is you are about to be eraced. Has anybody seen the movie "V for Vengeance"?. Totalitarian societies all look like this.
raridan1 8 months ago
Hell the fuck Yeah! Call yo mommy cause when she gets their all hell is going to break lose. They thought Mike Tyson was bad, piss off a mom and you will have WWIV on your hands. Well at least that is how my mom is.........
MilwaukeeNorth418 8 months ago
@Triv27 Thank you for your concern. There is no way for them to erase the recording, because I have took the time to have several copies of the recording in many locations
gregorygrice 8 months ago
140.05. Trespass. A person is guilty of trespass when he knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or upon premises.
My question is were your remaining on the premises "unlawfully?" Did the property owner tell you to leave?
TheGrayman1234 8 months ago
@TheGrayman1234 No I wasn't I've been here many times and MNRR officials have passed by in their cars and even waved to me. There is also a concrete company that is right next door. The owner parks his car near the tracks and is ok with me being there.
gregorygrice 8 months ago
". There is also a concrete company that is right next door. .."
Oy, and their cement trucks are why I take an alternative route to get to classes at WCC. So slow...... >_<
travelsonic 8 months ago
@TheGrayman1234 The summons itself is actually pretty interesting. The offence is trespassing but in the information section it states "Enter and remained unlawfully next to the railroad track area". Standing next to the train tracks on public property is not illegal. So basically you got a ticket for trespassing on public property. No where in the summons does it state that you were actually on the railroad tracks but rather just in the "railroad track area".
spiritwingsvirtual 8 months ago
I HAVE POSTED THE LINK TO THE SUMMONS IN THE DESCRIPTION FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE THIS IS FAKE.
gregorygrice 8 months ago
I'm hoping this never happens to me, yet these occurances happen more and more. Maybe us railfans should claim discrimination against a hobby or something? :) in all seriousness, this is horrible. Hope everthing turns out okay for you.
SegoRailroadModels 8 months ago
Posting URLs isn't permitted here, so let me see if THIS will work:
(BEGIN URL)writesong(DOT)blogspot(DOT)com(SLASH)
It's the URL for my own personal web site, "OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE", where I've posted this story, "JUVENILE RAILFAN ARRESTED !"
writesong 8 months ago
@writesong
It worked!!!
So, go check it out!
Thank you.
writesong 8 months ago
Like I said before this is not communist Russia! Those cops were totally unprofessional. It's all part of a plan to take our freedoms away from us. Under the new world order that has come about under the Homeland Security after 9/11/2001.
This is unconstitutional! We must stand united and fight this thing.
qclegg 8 months ago
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT MORE PROOF: I will be posting a copy of the summons, and hopefully by the end of the week I will have the full recording fixed so that my address, and other private info is edited out.
gregorygrice 8 months ago
I can't get the link to work Gregory, but go to railroad.net. I'm sure you're familiar with that site. On the metro north forum, at the top of the forum on a sticky post, is the railroads photo policy. It is a memo from the railroad chief of police to his officers that non commercial photography has no restrictions other than not to trespass on railroad property or be in a dangerous area. I don't see where you were either trespassing OR in a dangerous area. Sue those keystone cops.
ctfirebattchief 8 months ago
@ctfirebattchief Oh yeah that memo. I was told a while ago that that memo is now invalid, because those people are not in power anymore. Thats why I carried the personal email, which they totally disregarded. The MTA has also posted in their rules on the website that photography is legal systemwide
gregorygrice 8 months ago
@AuroraFoxNEC That does not matter at all, you can take pictures, use tripods and use a flash of whatever you want as long as you are on public property. That MTA rule only applies to MTA property not to public property. There is no law or rule that makes it illegal to take a video of a MTA train using a tripod. As long as you are on public property you are free to take pictures and videos of whatever you want to.
spiritwingsvirtual 8 months ago 2
@spiritwingsvirtual EXACTLY!
gregorygrice 8 months ago
The main point is that if this were the Amtrak NEC, and you registered with them as a railfan, they would have no right for harassing you. Amtrak started that program because railfans wanted to help Amtrak police the line, and in meetings told them that, straight up. Maybe NYMTA needs to follow Amtrak's lead.
strredwolf 8 months ago
A mixed reaction; I didn't view the video but wanted to comment on your text.
The main thing is that this is a Metro North (NYMTA) owned line and not an Amtrak owned line. That means some prohibition of being "on the line" for safety reasons...
...which the police should have just came out and said so, given you the summons, and sent you on the way. But 5 cops from 4 agencies, being unprofessional? Grab a lawyer.
strredwolf 8 months ago
@strredwolf It was more than 20 officers at the scene, and I had a personal email from the MTA President of Customer service himself.
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trainsrgood4u 8 months ago
FUCKING PIGS!!!!!!!!
MrkmTrainFAN 8 months ago
WOW! Sounds like that cop doesn't see much action in them there parts. Please do yourself a favor kid, tell your parents to hire a lawyer. The judge will probly throw your case out, that's when you sue the police departments involved and the a-hole officers themselves. PLEASE get a lawyer!
tnttrains 8 months ago
Definitely make sure this video gets out, that is how you make a difference. I hope you got the names of all the officers. There was another video that came out about a month ago with someone taking pictures and was detained. If you were 10-15 feet from the track and behind the barrier you can kneel down and do whatever you want. If you really wanted, and if you have a good case which I believe you do, you could get money out of this by threatening to sue for police misconduct.
spiritwingsvirtual 8 months ago 2
this is the resion i ignore the police
Seekanddestroy1ful 8 months ago
GREG IS NOT GUILTY. THOSE COPS ARE DUMBASSES.
five0fan 8 months ago
You should post this on the CNN website via IReport (and everywhere else possible) so that it can garner more publicity. There's nothing a police department hates more than bad public relations and these pieces of human excrement need to be exposed. It's crap like this that gives a bad image to officers everywhere.
anb740 8 months ago
Sue these fucking cops, these are true morons, a teen photographing trains, what a bunch of assholes, sue these fuckers personally and see how these assholes like it this fucking shit has got to stop, get a bunch of photographers together and go to this same spot and photograph trains, then see how brave these prick cops are, it's not one teenager.
parrot0051 8 months ago
Apparently, I can't post a URL here, so do an Internet search for my personal web site, "OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE".
The name of the post is, "JUVENILE RAILFAN ARRESTED !"
My name is John Robert Mallernee
writesong 8 months ago
@writesong Do you mind messaging me the link? or email me: gregorygrice@aol.com. Thank you!
gregorygrice 8 months ago
@writesong yeah man, send me a link on my youtube message, your video doesnt show up
gregrocks66 8 months ago
Many years ago, prior to the attacks of Tuesday 11 September 2001, I was homeless and would sleep in my car next to the railroad yards, just so I could watch passing trains.
Only twice, did police stop and ask what I was doing, and that's all they did, just making sure I was safe and not freezing to death.
It was before most of you young'uns were born, and America was different then.
writesong 8 months ago
I've never even had a police officer come around when I had my camera set up, or when I was walking along the railroad tracks.
Of course, I'm elderly, a disabled war veteran, live in a military retirement home, and drive a pickup truck, so maybe I appear not to be a threat.
writesong 8 months ago
Fuck YOU MTA expect to be contacted by the ACLU
IIIIIRepoIIIII 8 months ago
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Conrail45 8 months ago
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Conrail45 8 months ago
Those cops have no right to harass him,What is this communist Russia! Those cops are a bunch of losers,This is how the powers that be will usher in the New World Order ,President Dwight D.Eisenhower warned of The Military Industrial Complex taking over the country. With militarization of our police forces,homeland security etc,is unconstitutional.
qclegg 8 months ago
@qclegg Its funny because I have a Russian friend on Facebook, and they allow him to railfan and post the photos on FB!
gregorygrice 8 months ago
oh well I am sure the coppers can get jobs as mall cops after he sues the department. Good luck mate, hope you win.
Smokinhooch 8 months ago
Those police officer handled the situation unprofessionally, you should take them to court and issue a lawsuit on them.
elisaul17 8 months ago
cops CAN SUCK DICK
franchboy 8 months ago
@franchboy relax dude...my dad was a cop......wait till something bad happens to u like u get robbed...who u going to get help?
rangers1030 8 months ago
@rangers1030 cmon dude first off most of the comments below says pigs why you not going off on them ?my sisters a cop so shut the fuck up no one said they was all bad soo you can suck a pig dick
franchboy 8 months ago
@franchboy Your right. Unfortunaty it the bad cops (the ones that think just because they are cops they can boss you around, their the true pigs) that give the good cops a bad name.
LycoValleyRRFan 8 months ago
@franchboy ....cause urs was the first i saw....oh wow....u tell me 2 stfu and 2 suck a pig dick...real mature...thanks bro...i dont think ill ever recover from that.......was trying to prove a point but i cause u had to be an asshole in return....
rangers1030 8 months ago
What a bunch of BULLSHIT!
Railfans are not terrorists!
You need to hire an attorney!
wesolint 8 months ago
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS, AND SUPPORT. IT IS WELL APPRECIATED! I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE ACTION, BECAUSE I AM NOT LETTING THIS ONE SLIDE.
gregorygrice 8 months ago 15
@gregorygrice
Don't let it slide get you a GOOD lawyer !
jtk69 8 months ago
Cops are shitheads usually
C172Pilotdude 8 months ago
I just now sent an e-mail to the police.
I tried to send you a copy, but was blocked.
You and I must be friends before I can send you a message.
writesong 8 months ago
@writesong Thanks a lot. I have accepted your friend request
gregorygrice 8 months ago
I LINKED YOUR VIDEO TO A FORUM I BELONG TOO
IIIIIRepoIIIII 8 months ago
@IIIIIRepoIIIII Thank you. I'm trying to make everyone aware of situations like this., and that I am not the only one that this happens to. but this account was really drastic.
gregorygrice 8 months ago
Another example of rougue cops who take the law into their own hands. I hope you are contacting a lawyer and pressing charges against the poor excuse for a police officer that harassed you.
PinePowerLI 8 months ago 3
@PinePowerLI I am planning to, just deciding on what actions to take on this
gregorygrice 8 months ago
This is fucking bullshit
HEY TO THE FUCKING RAILROAD POLICE WE ARE YOUR EXTRA SET OF EYE'S! I KNOW THIS BEC