Judo in competitions is too much based on stand up and less on ground fighting and this is not a good thing cause ground fighting is a very effective part of judo.
What a brilliant demonstration of Sangaku or Sankaku Jime, even though he spoke in Japanese the variations were very understandable, well done RuroundiTR for the upload, the use of the judogi or the belt to restrain the hand is a must in contests.
@Dudongo86 That's sad. I truly believe that referees should allow at least a little time for newaza in international judo. Newaza is strong foundation of judo, so why not allow some ground skills to be applied in competition ?
@mitchhsansom it's the same shit you just do more of it. the leglocks are not done in tournaments for good measure because of the high likelihood of injury. look how many people in ufc and bjj who cant compete for months on end because of heel hooks and shit like that
@billysue2 True. Another big difference is in Judo the ground work has to be quick and explosive. We only have 5 seconds to make a move or we're stood up. In BJJ we can work and play chess.
Yes. The triangle choke came, indeed, from Judo. They may have been rediscovered by the Gracies because the Gracies had to develop their style of Judo segregated from the Japanese, but you can find very old videos of Tsunetane Oda doing many variations of sankaku-jime (triangle choke).
Yes. Triangle comes straight out of judo. Maeda san was 4dan Kodokan judoka (who taught the G's) so it would be a surprise if he didnt teach it. Other Japanese judoka immigrated to Brasil too. No surprises where "BJJ" came from.
Thinking that the Gracies did not had any contact with judo or wrestling past Maeda and that they genuinely rediscovered a lot of techniques is naive at best, idiotic at worst.
Gracies were good at marketing and developed their own set of rules, they were not technical masters, cross-training continued past Maeda.
@RodrigoCabanillas I think it is idiotic to assume that people spending 100% of their time in pure newaza training would not genuinely discover or rediscover or adapt lots of techniques. You must know that Brazil was not the place where most top Japanese technical Judoka lived, and there was a lot of friction between GJJ and Judo here... Of course there was interchange, but the Gracies worked somewhat segregated from mainstream, Japanese Judo for a long time.
@RodrigoCabanillas There is no dispute for those who care to research. It's common knowledge that Rolls Gracie began cross training and integrating wrestling technique etc. Heck, just look a BJJ now versus 15 years ago. Foot locks were frowned upon and now everybody is training heel hooks and knee bars. No doubt that the Gracies both discovered things on their own AND integrated techniques and strategies from other disciplines. I think BJJ's best contribution is that they remained isolated...
@iJITSU ...and retained the ne waza-heavy judo of the early 20th century. As judo changed around the world, the Gracies did not adapt the changes, including not adopting the term judo for their discipline as did many other western "jiu-jitsu" schools when the term judo became prevelant. If it wasn't for the kosen community and the Gracies, we might be missing out on the legendary ne waza of the late 19th/early 20th century.
@iJITSU There's no honor in the Gracie name and they are the only people who market their name and are cocky about their style being unbeatable and the best. But they have been proven wrong dozen of times with bloody faces and broken arms. BJJ is a great style for grappling but there are so many other great styles like Kosen Judo, Sambo, Catch Wrestling, Shoot Wrestling, Pankration, etc. It's not BJJ that torques people, it's the Gracies that promote it like down at the Gracie Academy. Cocky!!!
@ponotsunami kosen judo hardly exists anymore and is virtually identical to bjj,catch wrestling hardly exists outside japan either,same for shoot and pankration.Ive trained bjj for probably 15 yrs on and off and at the torrance academy on holiday and i dont agree with some of the bullshit they come out with.That said the standard of teaching there is the best ive ever seen,rener in particular is an incredible coach.
@iJITSU You do know that Maeda traveled the world fighting Savate Fighters, Catch Wrestlers, etc. and did a lot of cross training with Judo. Maeda taught the Gracies his version of Judo which the Gracies took all the credit for themselves and marketed it as their own but the world found out when they claimed to have created moves that were already being used in Judo prior to WW2. Pathetic!
The Gracies may have added to BJJ, but Maeda deserves most of the credit. Someday they'll confess... Not!
@makavelimavi the triangle choke was developed on the judo mat. In fact, BJJ didn't start implementing the triangle until the 70's or 80's when a BJJ practitioner discovered the move in a judo book. No, I'm not kidding and I think Jacare (older) even attested to the fact in an article a few years ago.
fantastic i am in uk and just starting judo again after 20 yrs and his is what has pushed me to do it , he is a true legend, there is another one of a seminar in france , its on dailymotion so if someone can put that on too , be great....
I undrstand being supportive of your art, I myself am a great admirer of judo (i am a bjj practiciner) and am more interested in combining bjj and judo as most bjj players already do, however, refer to the kimura and alieo fight in where kimura himself complemented the gracie on his technique and offered him a teaching position at a japanese academy. Both arts togather (you guys call it ne-waza) are very powerful and beautiful to witness. Gracies introduced leverage to ne-waza combat.
My friend you should try kosen judo, I´ll bet that you will like it. I been training since 1987 with
Sensei kanae hirata at kosen judo schools and that was an honor, today I am 4 Dan in Kosen judo, 2 degree Combat sambo Sambo, Muay Thai, 6 dan Kyokushinkai Karate.
Every day I am sperring with BJJ black belt and I`ll teach them Newaza No densho... good old day Japanese Newaza.
Hi friend.. you better get your story straight... Kimura never ask Helio Gracie to teach in Japan and this is for fact! what is Helio Gracie will teach in japan?? in what!? Newaza! or BJJ GJJ... did you ever see the video kimura VS Gracie...
well, given how most Judo matches go, it would seem an equal emphasis on newaza as well as tachewaza would do some good, its like in boxing...there is no gaurentee that 1 punch, or in this case, one throw is gonna end the match, thats where newaza comes in..and as of late it seems japan is a little short on kimuras.
Judo in competitions is too much based on stand up and less on ground fighting and this is not a good thing cause ground fighting is a very effective part of judo.
viothethunderbolt 2 weeks ago
GREAT!!
vfmm1 3 weeks ago
What a brilliant demonstration of Sangaku or Sankaku Jime, even though he spoke in Japanese the variations were very understandable, well done RuroundiTR for the upload, the use of the judogi or the belt to restrain the hand is a must in contests.
genisis007 4 months ago
Beautiful but in countries like mine referees don´t let you do anything.
Dudongo86 6 months ago
@Dudongo86 That's sad. I truly believe that referees should allow at least a little time for newaza in international judo. Newaza is strong foundation of judo, so why not allow some ground skills to be applied in competition ?
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could you use this in wrestling?
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
@wtfasiankid8o8 there are no submisions in wrestling,the only grappling that allow chokes are bjj,judo and sub wrestling
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 i know, but I was wondering if the leg lock would be tight enough in wrestling to transition to the pin
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
@wtfasiankid8o8 there are no leg locks in wrestling either
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 not like a leg lock submission but like just hooking my heels together and bringing the guy over to transition to the pin
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
i wish i could understand what he was saying.... he looks like an awesome sensei!
nikulp68 1 year ago
The juji to sankaku transition at 3:20 is pretty awesome
paranoiuhh 1 year ago 3
Judokas have their own tricks on the ground too.
mitchhsansom 1 year ago
@mitchhsansom its not near the level of bjj on the great,just like bjj has shite throws
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 I know BJJ has a higher level of ground work. I train BJJ 4 times a week.
mitchhsansom 1 year ago
@mitchhsansom it's the same shit you just do more of it. the leglocks are not done in tournaments for good measure because of the high likelihood of injury. look how many people in ufc and bjj who cant compete for months on end because of heel hooks and shit like that
jf1gd2 1 year ago
@billysue2 True. Another big difference is in Judo the ground work has to be quick and explosive. We only have 5 seconds to make a move or we're stood up. In BJJ we can work and play chess.
skrimpshidy 8 months ago
Kashiwazaki is a grappling god, straight up !
serekithegreat 1 year ago
Nice! I love how there are locks everywhere fro these positions.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
mierda! este tio tiene mas trucos ke libro de brujo
jrcortez18 1 year ago
Very nice! Thx.
7c9ND2el 1 year ago
Those triangles from the arm-bar position are super-sneaky. Really slick stuff.
ProkofievRules 2 years ago
Yep. Lucky to meet him in Japan and take his class. Seems a great person too.
shinjukool 2 years ago
idiotskoe video
MrAndrey1995 2 years ago
Are triangles legal in judo?
makavelimavi 2 years ago 7
Yes, triangles or Sankaku in Japanese are legal and a very important part of newaza (ground fighting) in Judo.
kappanisan 2 years ago 25
Yes. The triangle choke came, indeed, from Judo. They may have been rediscovered by the Gracies because the Gracies had to develop their style of Judo segregated from the Japanese, but you can find very old videos of Tsunetane Oda doing many variations of sankaku-jime (triangle choke).
loudenvier 2 years ago
Yes. Triangle comes straight out of judo. Maeda san was 4dan Kodokan judoka (who taught the G's) so it would be a surprise if he didnt teach it. Other Japanese judoka immigrated to Brasil too. No surprises where "BJJ" came from.
shinjukool 2 years ago 2
@loudenvier
Thinking that the Gracies did not had any contact with judo or wrestling past Maeda and that they genuinely rediscovered a lot of techniques is naive at best, idiotic at worst.
Gracies were good at marketing and developed their own set of rules, they were not technical masters, cross-training continued past Maeda.
RodrigoCabanillas 1 year ago
@RodrigoCabanillas I think it is idiotic to assume that people spending 100% of their time in pure newaza training would not genuinely discover or rediscover or adapt lots of techniques. You must know that Brazil was not the place where most top Japanese technical Judoka lived, and there was a lot of friction between GJJ and Judo here... Of course there was interchange, but the Gracies worked somewhat segregated from mainstream, Japanese Judo for a long time.
loudenvier 1 year ago
@RodrigoCabanillas There is no dispute for those who care to research. It's common knowledge that Rolls Gracie began cross training and integrating wrestling technique etc. Heck, just look a BJJ now versus 15 years ago. Foot locks were frowned upon and now everybody is training heel hooks and knee bars. No doubt that the Gracies both discovered things on their own AND integrated techniques and strategies from other disciplines. I think BJJ's best contribution is that they remained isolated...
iJITSU 1 year ago
@iJITSU ...and retained the ne waza-heavy judo of the early 20th century. As judo changed around the world, the Gracies did not adapt the changes, including not adopting the term judo for their discipline as did many other western "jiu-jitsu" schools when the term judo became prevelant. If it wasn't for the kosen community and the Gracies, we might be missing out on the legendary ne waza of the late 19th/early 20th century.
iJITSU 1 year ago
@iJITSU There's no honor in the Gracie name and they are the only people who market their name and are cocky about their style being unbeatable and the best. But they have been proven wrong dozen of times with bloody faces and broken arms. BJJ is a great style for grappling but there are so many other great styles like Kosen Judo, Sambo, Catch Wrestling, Shoot Wrestling, Pankration, etc. It's not BJJ that torques people, it's the Gracies that promote it like down at the Gracie Academy. Cocky!!!
ponotsunami 1 year ago
@ponotsunami kosen judo hardly exists anymore and is virtually identical to bjj,catch wrestling hardly exists outside japan either,same for shoot and pankration.Ive trained bjj for probably 15 yrs on and off and at the torrance academy on holiday and i dont agree with some of the bullshit they come out with.That said the standard of teaching there is the best ive ever seen,rener in particular is an incredible coach.
billysue2 1 year ago
@iJITSU You do know that Maeda traveled the world fighting Savate Fighters, Catch Wrestlers, etc. and did a lot of cross training with Judo. Maeda taught the Gracies his version of Judo which the Gracies took all the credit for themselves and marketed it as their own but the world found out when they claimed to have created moves that were already being used in Judo prior to WW2. Pathetic!
The Gracies may have added to BJJ, but Maeda deserves most of the credit. Someday they'll confess... Not!
ponotsunami 1 year ago
@makavelimavi absolutely.
roentgen571 1 year ago
@makavelimavi the triangle choke was developed on the judo mat. In fact, BJJ didn't start implementing the triangle until the 70's or 80's when a BJJ practitioner discovered the move in a judo book. No, I'm not kidding and I think Jacare (older) even attested to the fact in an article a few years ago.
iJITSU 1 year ago 2
@makavelimavi claro que é
permitido...
rafaelrotam 1 year ago
@makavelimavi must be some bjj noob
jf1gd2 1 year ago
@makavelimavi Yes, very legal, and we are very good at them, just ask BJJ.
judopathoftruth 9 months ago
this is standard UK judo sylabus
i know this variaiton it is good
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
great stuff, lid judo;-) with his tecniques u can try to challenge even tough bjj gyus . both are lethal. bow to sensei :-) - arigato.oss.
ccthedragon 2 years ago 4
minha chave predileta é o sankaku-jime já fiz muinta gente baba nele ^_^ é uma excelente tecnica
rogin07 2 years ago
This way of doing Sankaku is SOOOO awesome. I've caught many people with it. They didn't know what happened. Nice technique!
judoka1976 2 years ago 2
:) i know this one aswell!
judopathoftruth 2 years ago
fantastic i am in uk and just starting judo again after 20 yrs and his is what has pushed me to do it , he is a true legend, there is another one of a seminar in france , its on dailymotion so if someone can put that on too , be great....
obywonn 2 years ago
have a look at the book he did 'Fighting Judo'
sisabra 2 years ago
which dojo does he teach at??
PRSer 2 years ago
International Budo University
is a private university in Katsuura, Chiba, Japan,
chchjudoschool 2 years ago
Great technique...my favorite. I want to practice in a dojo like that. Very nice!
judoka1976 2 years ago
impressive
Raincitywarrior 2 years ago
Kashiwazaki is a Judo God, straight up. His newaza is legendary, and I would kill just to spend a couple of months at his dojo in Japan.
serekithegreat 2 years ago 4
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I would kill to spend a couple months with you and your genitals.
NoPalePastels 2 years ago
this made me jizz in my pants.
TheJutsu14 2 years ago 2
meu que técnica é essa!!!
wesleyjj 2 years ago
your a perect example of bjj practicioner, keep up the good work ;)
bwalker077 2 years ago
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bwalker077 2 years ago
now that's how to teach JUDO!!!!!
lilrobie 2 years ago
hmmm interesting
CannonJnr 2 years ago
brilliant
newazajunkie 2 years ago
True Judo players need no BJJ nonsense
its just our tecniques in Portuguese
khaledonia 3 years ago
I undrstand being supportive of your art, I myself am a great admirer of judo (i am a bjj practiciner) and am more interested in combining bjj and judo as most bjj players already do, however, refer to the kimura and alieo fight in where kimura himself complemented the gracie on his technique and offered him a teaching position at a japanese academy. Both arts togather (you guys call it ne-waza) are very powerful and beautiful to witness. Gracies introduced leverage to ne-waza combat.
ishikawaml 2 years ago
My friend you should try kosen judo, I´ll bet that you will like it. I been training since 1987 with
Sensei kanae hirata at kosen judo schools and that was an honor, today I am 4 Dan in Kosen judo, 2 degree Combat sambo Sambo, Muay Thai, 6 dan Kyokushinkai Karate.
Every day I am sperring with BJJ black belt and I`ll teach them Newaza No densho... good old day Japanese Newaza.
mddog 2 years ago
Hi friend.. you better get your story straight... Kimura never ask Helio Gracie to teach in Japan and this is for fact! what is Helio Gracie will teach in japan?? in what!? Newaza! or BJJ GJJ... did you ever see the video kimura VS Gracie...
mddog 2 years ago
well, given how most Judo matches go, it would seem an equal emphasis on newaza as well as tachewaza would do some good, its like in boxing...there is no gaurentee that 1 punch, or in this case, one throw is gonna end the match, thats where newaza comes in..and as of late it seems japan is a little short on kimuras.
ishikawaml 2 years ago
Buhaaa... ;-)) short in Kimuras.
mddog 2 years ago
I don't know what I love more being my my girlfriend or doing Judo and choking motha F outs.
ilope012 3 years ago
Good man as long as you choke BJJ ppl we are happy
khaledonia 3 years ago
LOL i do BJJ and Judo do i count?
ByAnyAndAllMeans 3 years ago
Wow, this guy is amazing. thanks for the post.
moelicious416 3 years ago
WOW..keep posting these great Kashiwazaki instructionals!
NCrun4fun 3 years ago 2
True legend
topcat1012002 3 years ago
Look how he moves in the groundwork, that's just incredible. True Master!
Riipper1 4 years ago