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  • Wow! Why did the Times sound so responsible regarding McCain?

    I'm blown away!

  • wow

    I really can't believe how stupid they are

    lo siento tanto por ustedes....

  • Obama looked presidential? He looks silly.

  • China has taken over as the #1 economic superpower and the US will never be the same

  • and also it is a lie to say that they wanted mccain to write what they wanted him to write, they wanted him to address sertain aspects for their readers so they can make their own conciencous(this word mean of their own accord, sorry accord means of their own will) desicion. and republicans are so pathetic they resort to putting down their oponent as the head 4 their ideas, here as respectful people support there own ideas without having to make them seem better then their opposition

  • wow mark, i understand the concept of things being implied thank you very much (see im actually smart and pay attention in school were u seem to be the kid who texts useless crap or skips to wrestle alligators and trys to use big words to seem smart). but the work withdrawl is not implied in the least here, talking about troops numbers they are also asking if he wants to put more people in, and who the hell thinks withdrawl first when you hear iraq?!?!

  • I bet all my Norwegian dollars you won't reply to this comment Liberal Viewer.

    . . . Not much to actually comment though . . . Except that...You're the perfect alternate soundtrack to any game and it's always nice to get a bit smarter.

    - Something along those lines.

    Thx 4 reading ;-)

  • I think Nader should have won.

  • this is off subject.. but what is everyones problem with the ACLU? It seems the conservatives absolutely HATE the ACLU..but why?..they do so much good

  • I don't understand it either. Considering the right is all for civil liberties an all... it's kind of contradictory.

  • They seem to really be more about freedom of businesses or for corporations than for individual citizens. The government needs to protect the sanctity of marriage by preventing people from conducting ceremonies and honoring the civil rights of same-sex couples, but damn that Obama and his Big Government for regulating our cars!

  • he was asked to refute obama, buy presenting his own plans, which would have allowed the reader to choose which of the them had the best plan. He failed to do this. words such as "timetable" and "troop levels" and "victory" have nothing to with withdrawal except in your own imagination. What those words imply is that you have a concrete plan on how to resolve the problem, the method bye which it will be done and the time and cost it will require. For either victory or retreat.

  • what other things, apart from withdrawal, would the timetable be showing?

  • Timetables for what YOU IDIOT LIBBY VIEWER. WTF else as to Iraq does timetable refer to? WITHDRAWAL - God you are so desperate to manufacture bias that you emphasize something as ridiculous as this.

  • marklross2 wrote: "Timetables for what ..WTF else as to Iraq does timetable refer to? WITHDRAWAL"

    But, as I asked petfoodonly in my reply to his comment over a year ago, if "withdrawal" is included in "timetable," then how do you explain the Fox News reporters being so conscientious about adding the word "withdrawal" and why did Brit Hume go so far as to interrupt Jeff Birnbaum to prompt him to add the words "for withdrawal" to "timetable" in that last clip at 4:20?

    Thx 4 commenting :-)

  • Dude, you remember a comment from a year ago? Either that's soul-smashingly depressing, or quite impressive.

  • Fox reporters were clarifying the vagueness of the NYT statement for people like you, who would take advantage of their purposeful omission of the obvious, and say ridiculous things like you did, ie "While the NYT article mentioned timetables, the word withdrawal never appeared in it."

    Te word withdrawal doesn't have to actually appear for intelligent people to know what is being discussed. But for YOUR benefit, Fox was carefully redundant.

  • Finally - just as in my most recent rebuttal of your video, what makes you think that a story using an OPINION/EDITORIAL piece as its basis is going to be unbiased? Are you that naive?

  • marklross2 wrote: "Fox reporters were clarifying the vagueness of the NYT statement for people like you, who would take advantage of their purposeful omission of the obvious"

    It's self-contradictory to BOTH criticize the "NYT statement" for "vagueness" while also claiming it's guilty of "omission of the obvious" because omitting the obvious is not vagueness. I actually included that Brit Hume clip at 4:20 to "pre-refute" your argument so why not just admit your mistake?

    Thx 4 commenting :-)

  • ha ha ha Here we go with the "why not admit your mistake" tack where there is no mistake...omitting the obvious leads to incomplete and indistinct definition - VAGUENESS Why don't you just admit that you don't know the meaning of the word now. It will save us time...

  • marklross2 "omitting the obvious leads to incomplete and indistinct definition"

    No, omitting the obvious doesnt change vagueness b/c you only omit the OBVIOUS. That's why, if "withdrawal" is an "obvious" part of "timetable," you cannot explain the Fox News reporters being so conscientious about adding the word "withdrawal" or why did Brit Hume went so far as to interrupt Jeff Birnbaum to prompt him to add the words "for withdrawal" to "timetable" in that last clip at 4:20

    Thx 4 commenting :-)

  • Your "Thx 4 commenting :-)" ending to every comment is an insult in of itself.

  • 3rkid2 wrote: "Your 'Thx 4 commenting :-)' ending to every comment is an insult in of itself"

    I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but, when I end replies with "Thx 4 commenting :-)," it's to show:

    1) I recognize the person to whom I'm replying is a real person and I appreciate that person taking the time to post his/her thoughts and

    2) Even if my reply criticizes the comment, my criticism is not personal

    I hope that helps clear up your misunderstanding and

    thx 4 commenting :-)

  • lol how many times do you think you have explained that to people?

  • I think he just want's to show he appreciates the discussion even if he doesn't agree with you. There are some youtubers that instead tell people they don't agree with to shut up (HTWW comes to mind).

  • Withdrawal being obvious does not ensure that dishonest hacks will say things like you did: "the word withdrawal never appeared..." NO WONDER Fox news is conscientious about using the word. Even though they know most people know what "timetables" meant - they have to account for the likes of you who will try to imply that since "the word withdrawal never appeared..." there just might be something else that "timetables" refers to. Your dishonesty leads to Fox's emphasis. Why won't you admit it?

  • marklross2 wrote "Withdrawal being obvious does not ensure that dishonest hacks will say things"

    Why would anyone want to "ensure that dishonest hacks will say things?" And, if the inclusion of "withdrawal" was "OBVIOUS," meaning "EASILY PERCIEVED," then why did the Fox News reporters keep adding the word "withdrawal" and why did Brit Hume go so far as to interrupt Jeff Birnbaum to prompt him to add the words "for withdrawal" to "timetable" in that last clip at 4:20?

    Thx 4 commenting :-)

  • You are hopeless - you are so desperate to win this petty argument that yo even misquoted me...unbelievable...want to try to include my entire statement about dishonest hacks like yourself?

  • Oh my. How did you even manage to reply to that comment? I was baffled as to what the writer meant.

  • This is an excellent video. I can see even the conservatives wincing after your scathing review of FOX's actions via these comments. All they can do now is the usual: Deny, and counter-accuse.

  • you should do some clips that show Liberals being biased as well, just to show that everyone does it and not just the people you don't like.

  • hepner, you are asking children to grow up! that will never happen. lol.

  • So... it's childish to astutely analyze and point out instances of conservative bias in media that claims to be unbiased?

  • Yes, becuase only a child tells people things they ALREADY KNOW.

  • um...its called fox ...

  • While I agree that both sides of this battle of ideals have their own agendas and bias, Liberal media outlets DO NOT- by any means- do it as boldly and flagrantly as FOX does.

  • He's a liberal viewer. He watches and engages in media with a liberal attitude and bias. If someone wanted to find instances of liberal bias in mainstream media, then they would probably be a conservative viewer who watched the news with a conservative bias.

  • Thank God for Fox News, otherwise we would have to watch msnbc

  • american need to be truth seekers & stop trusting "new outlets".

  • Since when has the media become the fourth branch of government. You have stations that are pro-left and some that are pro-right. Ladies and gentlemen forget about "Land of the Free," and welcome to Fascism. Government has the media doing exactly what it wants; Government propaganda. Sound familiar, think back 65 years. We are quickly becoming a Fascist state and the rest of the world is loving it.

  • Gallagher (and Doochey) are both tools with fat-ass heads.

    Brit Hume is a traitor.

  • Ive been through most of your videos, and this one sits along side the others as something I agree with completely yet lack the elegance of tongue to formulate myself. Well that and I never watch fox news.

  • "No one favors a permanent U.S. presence, as Senator Obama charges. A partial withdrawal has already occurred with the departure of five "surge" brigades, and more withdrawals can take place as the security situation improves. As we draw down in Iraq, we can beef up our presence on other battlefields, such as Afghanistan, without fear of leaving a failed state behind. I have said that I expect to welcome home most of our troops from Iraq by the end of my first term in office, in 2013"

    -a plan

  • wait wait wait one second.. I agree fox is not F&B but at the last second the person from the Washington Post.. which is part of the NY times he said used the word withdraw??? So he just helped fox...

  • I'm not a hundred percent on this but isn't the washington post owned by rupert murdoc the same guy that owns fox?

  • I guess it all boils down to what your definition of is, is.

  • Wow, really people. I really need you all to understand what they were trying to say. Even though they went about it very badly which is something that FOX News does alot. What do you all think "Time Tables" mean? I am not at all defending FOX News because I know how they operate. I am a young black adult who just watched the "Attack On Black America" YouTube video (Ouch), but "Time Tables" is the exact same thing as "Troop Withdraw". Being realistic here. Nice opinions though.

  • MrPhilipIrving - If I tell you to give me a plan(timeline) on how your going to loose(withdraw) weight, that doesn't automatically imply that I'm telling you to give me specific dates on when your going to achieve a desired size(end).It was very clear that the commentary given by Fox news put its own spin on the situatution. That's what the video was about. Whether or not the terms "troop withdrawl" and "timeline" are interchangeable is another argument. Point is, McCain had no plan.

  • Essentially if they had never mentioned the word "time table" it would be fine... Very weird...

  • Keep this up, fix noise needs to be exposed. You can't argue with this, but still you will have a bunch of right wing nut jobs that'll take fixed noise's information as truth. After seeing this I will subscribe to the LibralViewer, keep it up!

  • Faux News should advertise themselves for what they are "fundamentalist or repub base tv" in the area of infotainment NOT news.

  • I love this guy. Fox can hardly be called professional television. As a person who is not from America, I am surprised how this things fly over there.

  • nice outline. the enemy will appreciate it after reading it in the times.

  • FOX NEWS IS ALL ABOUT LIES AND PROPAGANDA !!!

    FULLY CONTROLLED BY REPUBLICAINS SINCE ITS CREATION !!!

    Be more critic please !!!

  • LOl Are you serious lets get a grip of reality...

  • seing FOX news is scary...."i see white people"....you know... all this controversy in FOX and their terrible lies can be put in three words: OBAMA IS BLACK...

  • the Mccain article mentions Obama 10 times, while the Obama article mentions Mccain only three times. The Mccain article DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA. Open your fucking eyes, the NYT didn't want Mccain to change his stance, they just wanted him to write an article about his plan in Iraq, not a bunch of attacks on Obama. They didn't get what they wanted so they rejected it. Exactly. Shut the fuck up Fox News.

  • The NYT never used the word withdrawal, so Fox news is not telling the people the truth, maybe that's what "you" want to hear, but it's not the truth. Did you even watch the video or do you just live in denial? They blatantly lied to the audience and it was totally obvious.

  • dude i watch fox news because i know how much they hate obama. it's funny to watch fox news look stupid. lol everyone knows that fox distorts facts. everyone. well maybe not you. they are number one because republicans believe the crap they're watching and democrats thinks it hilarious. i like watching it to see what msnbc is going to correct them on. fox news was one of the first to report about the chick gettin beat up, then i laughed at how stupid they looked when the truth came out lol

  • and people wonder why I don't watch the news... it's disgusting to watch... This is truely appalling... How can a news station so blatantly support a political party...

    they're not even being subtle.. the republicans seem to be grasping at straws constantly in this campaign... I'm Australian and support neither a democrat or conservative but it seems as though the republican campaign was a sinking ship from the beginning...

  • OBAMA IS SO GREAT! he will be a fantastic president.

  • Faux News is NOT news.

  • Fox News showed their true colors during this election. It is almost unbelievable how they do what they do. I was on the fox news site yesterday and they had 2 anti-obama ads running and 3 pro-mccain ads running that linked to sites to donate to his campaign. How is this even allowed. They also had something about obama and cocain among all their other anti-obama new topics. I used to like fox news but I will be sticking to CNN. They are critical of both sides way more than Fox.

  • Yea man, CNN and MSNBC lean sometimes towards democrats, but they also support some republican agendas.

    FOX is crazy

  • probably becuase the Obama campaign know reaching out to Fox Viewers is a lost cause. I wonder why.

  • funny video

  • thanks liberal viewer!

  • fox news is a mccain lovefest

  • LV, you're doing God's work.

  • This one goes out to all the American people who have young kids, nieces, nephews or Grandkids...Take a good look in their eyes and consider how they will benefit from the result on Nov 4th. Just for a change, think about their future rather than your present when you make that crucial vote.

    Kind regards.

  • Haha duh, he clearly knows in the back of his mind that there's no mention of withdrawl...he just turns it into a general rant.

  • Get a life!

  • Sorry folks, but what other kind of timetables would there be?

    Timetables for dinner?

  • Timetables with expected milestones against which one could gauge the success or failure of the plans.

  • Good point, we shouldn't go in to Iraq with a plan, we should just kind of wing it.  Planning ahead and having a timetable would be stupid. You're totally right.

  • Typical FOX.

    Let's not report what it actually said but what the spin was and call it fact.

    It's a disgrace!

  • Timetables does NOT mean "for withdrawal" if not STATED - and it wasn't.

  • McCain didn't answer the question...so there was really nothing to print.

  • I wanted to comment on how amusing I find it that when tell Obama and/or liberal supporters why I'm for McCain and Palin they immediately say I watch Fox News. LOL I do not watch Fox let alone their news. I've been getting my information from many sources.

  • So timetable also means withdraw... get with it...

  • However, I disagree with the Times in suggesting that it "mirror" Obama's article, and that it lay out time tables with troop levels (which could be read as withdrawel in my oppinion. As McCain stated in his report, having a time table could be dangerous to our troops. Certainly not going to publish the exact plans for all the public, inclduding terroists to read.

  • how could it be read as withdrawal? It says a timetable for iraqi compliance? How can you read that any other way and retain any intelectual honesty or self respect?

    How could having a time table be dangerous? Simply add to it - if violence increases then we will reverse the plan as needed? Problem solved!

    it also didn't ask for the exact plans - it did not say, on 5/1/9 operation tomahawk - blow up wedding party, deny it - blame 'terror'. Did it??

  • It reads time table and troop levels meaning what are the troop levels going to be at approximate times, so in other words, when are we planning on withdrawing troops and how many. That's how it can be read as withdrawal. How can't it be dangerous for the enemy to know our military plans, even if they are just a general plan?

    I was hoping to have an intelligent discussion with Liberal viewer on this without anyone insulting anyone's intelligence as you did above.

  • I read both reports, and I also can see why they rejected the piece. It could have been easily edited to take out Obama in many places and discuss what progess has been made and what still has to been made.

  • Media is completely controlled by Corporates, Corporates want McCain in power because he is going to give big tax cuts to them.

  • I absolutely love these videos!

    About the questions:

    It is most definitely a contribution to McCain.

    I think the New York Times is correct in asking for a rewritten oped. They wanted a plan, not a political attack.

  • Great video. This is great proof that the news should serve only as an introduction to current events. You always have to dig deeper and go to the source information if you want to draw any unbiased conclusions. That goes for any network, but especially Fox.

  • Actually all news media has a conservative spin except air america. Shouldn't we seek a more balanced media based on something between air america and all the other outlets?

    Lol, if i can use this opportunity to claim media has a liberal 'spin' then i can frame slightly left of fox as balanced!...

    Transparent.

  • I remember seeing this and just reminding myself that the fox guys simply lack all integrity.

    How do these people look their kids in the eye? There is now a life long record of their active role in damaging this country. Do they really want their kids to remember them as traitors? Why don't they care?

  • Shouldn't we explore all mediums to gain knowledge in this election. Undoubtably more in this election than any other due to the blantant bias of most news organizations! There's no other network that is like FOX, all the rest have a liberal's spin. Journalism should include BOTH sides and points of view which the other networks rarely have!

  • @0lord0kinbote0

    I wonder on the increased government surveillance stuff whether they realise they could be targets too, or if they assume they're above the law for their good service to the Republican administration.

  • FOXNEWS delivers! ..A feeling of superiority (however false). Fans are Guaranteed to receive a (false) feeling of Superiorty About Themselves which keeps them coming back for MORE. Sadly the more they use the FOXNEWS fix, the more desparate they actually are for true self esteem. It's a vicious cycle. watch?v=lM3oww9Vk-c ( sample ) psst; Spread the message wherever relevant, and wake neighbors up. Not only for their own sakes but for the sakes of those with whom they come into contact each day.

  • good job.

  • Are any of you aware of this study on media bias by UCLA?

    "If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia.

  • so am i the only one who notice at the RNC that everything had to do with war war war war and every time the crowd roar was for WAR

  • Wow, what were you watching, I saw them roar for Drill Drill Drill, I saw them roar for Country First, I saw them roar about reforming government, I saw them roar USA, USA, USA (something I didn't hear at the democratic convention which I found interesting). I saw them roar about many things and I was clapping and roaring right with them.

  • Hmm.. why doesn't my posts appear by the person I replied too? Anyway, I wanted to add when they did roar about the roar they roared about victory in the roar, not just withdrawing. I don't know about you, but I want to see a win for us and Iraq.

  • lol haha i bet you would.

  • i c ant wait for the orielly interview tonight bills gonna tear him apart

  • 2nd that

  • This is just another example of how FOX NEWS lies and uses distortion to get their message across. Fox News Burn In Hell!

  • You just want to dislike Fox News and people can make their own opinions of what is on Fox, because they are not idiots like you apparently think they are.

  • You dont have to be an idiot to be tricked by an article from an "unbiased" news channel. Its really unfair what they do. Surely they should be sued over misrepresenting?

  • No news source is unbiased. That's why you should watch multiple networks and read newspapers from around the world. Then, you can make an educated discision. I can't stand how bias MSNBC is, so you know what I do: I don't watch it. Everyone that can't stand Fox news should do the same.

  • At the minute i generally use BBC. They can be dodgey at times but at least its not so obvious.

  • I use the BBC a lot as well. Especially with international events. Sometimes it's better to get something from outside of the U.S. and see how other countries feel about a certain issue or event.

  • people who watch fox news are going to vote for McCain. Of course, they are happy to have a 'news' station to feed them what they want to eat. I'm not sure I understand spending effort here instead of going and getting democrats registered to vote, and bussing them to the polls on election day.

  • Dude, thats why the video is on youtube. He's not trying to convince Fox News watchers. He's pointing out spin for anyone who sees this, which in turn may make them register if they havn't, be they democrats.

  • why the hell was Obama in iraq? The guy was already acting like he was elected.

  • America and its people,ARE U ALL ZOMBIES every port of call is run by the Masons or scull and bones,FOX lies all the time,in other parts of world people like BUSH and those that run FOX would be DEAD by now!

  • it's more like Faux News!

  • Yes... Fox News is a station for propaganda. It is not news at all. Just simply a nice place for conservation to go and watch good news get spun around so they can sleep at night.

  • You have done it again.

  • GREAT job as always. I like your videos.

  • FUCK FOX NEWS

  • I hate FOX News. They are so full of crap. Jerks.

  • Seems like you're making a whole lot out of something that isn't a big deal. When practically anyone mentions a "timetable" in relation to Iraq, it is always in regards to troop withdrawal.

  • I have to agree with you on this one. For the people of that political persuasion, any timetable in Iraq is about "surrender" or "withdrawal," and not just about have a time-line/plan for the future in Iraq. Oddly enough, McCain gave a speech where he laid out a timetable for Iraq. I think it was all of our troops out by the end of his second term.

  • One which he hopefully won't have, nor a first.

  • GOD711 - YOU rule.

    Fox News is pure ignorant evil.

  • Watch a little Fox News now & then. You can't help but sense the underlying sadness, fear and anger coming from their "newscasters". Underneath the show, surely most of them can remember a time when they aspired to become real journalists who would convey the truth to America. And now, ....now, deep inside, they know they've let go of their dream to become nothing but whores. I'd be sad, afraid and angry too.

    God forgive them

  • But it WASN'T is the point. The email never mentioned withdrawl, and a timetable that concretely sets a date/plan for the withdrawl of troops is different from one without. Out of the multitude of reasons the editorial was rejected, Cameron emphasized timetable because he was trying to cover his ass, plain and simple. Should McCain be allowed to repond in same to the audience? Yes, but only if he does it in a way that rises above a sandbox scuffle.

  • i feel sorry for the old guy who is pushin' 80 years old. i'm sorry he bombed the crap out of people he didn't know before he got shot down in vietnam. i'm sorry they took his manhood when he was a p.o.w. and made him their bitch. i'm sorry he left his first wife carol who was horribly disfigured in a car wreck to be a gigolo for cindy. i'm sorry he risks skin cancer when he goes outdoors to stand next to another oil rig. is feeling sorry for the old fart a reason to vote for him for president?

  • Is Fox News against a withdrawal from Iraq? Wouldn't that be the ultimate sign that we were victorious?

  • enlightening.

  • Very good piece.

  • How dare you show how Fox News "doctors" events. Don't boggle the minds of their viewers with truth. Actually, it doesn't matter. When confronted with the truth, they simple reply with obscenities, wave the flag, get out their guns, drink a beer, and don their hoods. Let's hear it for mendacity. It lets them live in their own little world. They can't discuss the issues. If one doesn't agree with them, they merely say, "go live in another country if you don't like it here". Ignorance rules.

  • crack head producers...

  • Excellent. Except too much saliva being picked up by your mic.

  • I met him once, I felt like a sniper might have been there. Not too safe, huh?

  • You're just paranoid.

  • Have you seen a few more of the man's videos before you make that statement? If you want to troll away about conservative greatness, go do it on either FOX or stormfront.

  • Obviously, you didn't get the reference.

  • Faux News ... Unfair & biased. Faux News ... The home of the red neck. Faux News ... Republican megaphone. Faux News ... Fascism at it's purest. Faux News ... One World, One Dream, One Perspective. Faux News ... Corporate medicine. Faux News ... Right wing extremism. Faux News ... Fear & hysteria. Faux News ... Tabloid junk. Faux News ... Minority abuse. Faux News ... Sugar coated bullshit. Faux News ... Leading the Sheeple. Faux News ... Presenting you with the noose!
  • Our Crack producers? ha ha ha ha 2.40

  • lol the guy reading the email was so excited when he saw the word timetable. what a douche

  • martink...I went down the list of all Republicans & Democrats who served in Congress & equally served in our Armed Forces. I was totally floored to see the tremendous disparity between the 2 parties.

    FACTS: The Democrats overwhelmely served in our Armed Forces. The Republicans were few & far between. Big talkers all, but THEY NEVER SERVED. These chicken-hawk Republicans received clout exemptions or used any excuses NOT to serve. I would entrust the Democrats with the security of our Nation.

  • Dear Liberal loozer

    Try and get it right.

  • ehhhhuhuhuhu, nice rebuttal...

  • You think that's good, read some of these other video comments, haha.

  • FOX news sucks so bad it's #1. This means CNN & MSLSD have reached new levels of suckdom. Of course that means NBC which people normally don't watch anyway except for the Olympics which are on an hour tape delay on the west coast which people are pissed about have reached even lower new levels of suckdom called blows. Of course that's not as low as ABC or CBS which has reached even farther to achieve the level of blowshard.

  • The New York Times rejecting McCain is proof that Democrats run the media.

  • Hey StoogeWatcher; go back to watching your stooges on FOX. Or do you try to get your news for the Three Stooges? Either way you'll get your getting braindead entertainment, not the news!

  • Now it is safe to call it Fox Entertainment Channel.

  • drink some water

  • Fox shouldn't even be called news.

  • But SeeB.S. should after its fake documents? Or Newsweek with the Koran desecration hoax? How about New York Times?

  • No news in America is truthful about everything they all lie. But fox lies the most.

  • Every Magog Damned thing is too much to ask for Fox News. Why can't people just wake up... oh wait... it's because they hear waht they want to hear and nothing else (generally but with some exceptions) on Fox.

  • What do you think a timetable is? As far as I'm aware its for a withdrawal and you even admitted that yourself in the end of your own video. Why should McCain have to write what the editor in chief of the New York Times wants him to? The New York Times filters more information and puts more liberal spin then fox news does conservatively. Some of your videos I think you have some points but on this one your wrong.

  • a timetable is a "Schedule" -- it's a directed and deadline-oriented plan aimed at accomplishing a particular objective. liberals' objectives in iraq are clear -- we want out, because we feel this war is destructive to america, iraq, and the world. if you have a different objective, and a schedule/timetable aimed at accomplishing it, please let us know. cuz right now it looks like you just expect us to bleed in iraq indefinitely.

    republicans hating on timetables = no plan in iraq. admit it.

  • It's not just republicans that want the war, and it's not just liberals that hate the war. It's McBush followers versus Reason followers. Whether it's Ron Paul or Obama some people want to follow reason others want to follow McBush.

  • Umm lets see where do I begin. The Liberals plan is to lose in Iraq and pull out with our tails tucked between our legs. Conservatives on the other hand believe the only option is to WIN. We are still in every country we have ever invaded except for Vietnam. History states we will always be there. It wont be 100,000 strong, but will be there. We will leave when we have made sure that the terrorist won't take control of the country. So far things are going well so you will see us scale back.

  • This is a war on Terror.With that naive disposition, the powers to be could go anywhere and tell you there are TERRORIST there and you would support it.Dont be a mindless follower, man.Bush is a fuckin Gangster.Fuck the UN, Im goin into Iraq beause they got WMD's (and no bid contracts for my homies).We are not over there kill in soldiers, we are killin people in tennis shoes and tshirts. McCain is a maverick turned puppet. If you agree with the invasion of Iraq I dont even want to talk to you.

  • Once again your ignorance of history is shown through. Bush did go to the UN before he invaded Iraq. Resolution 1440 ring a bell. Passed unanimously and stated than Sadam needed to hand over his weapons or evidence that he destroyed them, which he did neither, or face the penalty of being invaded. We went to vote on invasion and the three countries who vetoed it where Russia, china, and France. Countries that were doing BILLIONS of dollars selling arms and military equipment to Sadam.

  • And in case you haven't noticed we are facing most of the worlds terrorist in Iraq. They realize the important of beating us in Iraq, why cant you realize we need to beat them. If you had your way we would never Invade any country to protect America. Peace through strength my friend. I bet the fact that the surge is working is driving you nuts and that's sad. You dislike Bush and republicans so much that you are rooting against our country to win. So elect someone with no experience.

  • WMD?!!?? what world are you in, Bro? It is a fact that we went at it alone. I am not affiliated with a party. fiscally im conservative socially im moderate to liberal. How can you think this country is safer now. That is dangerously naive. This war cannot be won. The real threats to america are in AFganistan. The only thing in Iraq is oil and half built wal-marts. over a million iraqis have died (not even 5,000 american troops/ zero civilians). They are just people like us.

  • "So far things are going well "

    haha! that's a good one. you totally had me going! for a second i thought you were being serious.

  • the only good thing about fox news is weather and even that is crap compared to weather channel. so officially, fox has nothing good to offer to the world. unless you're republican. (independents are the best IMO because both democrats and republicans are a bit tainted somehow. you can almost always point out a flaw in both parties. although, every independent candidate is unique and has something different to offer. )

  • FOX is stupid? Come on. You can do better than that. Do you read bumper stickers for a living?

    Think about the success FOX has had over the last few years. It's not because they're stupid. It's because they are more balanced than CNN, MSNBC, etc.

  • ExposeReality,

    If u forgive the violent analogy, comparing Fox News bias to bias at other major networks is like comparing targeting civilians to collateral damage: it's a matter of intent. Other networks have biases towards controversy, sensationalism, superficiality, and corporatism. Fox has those, too, but also has such clear ideological bias that, just in my free time, I've been able to create the DOZENS of examples on my Fox News bias playlist

    I hope that helps and

    thx 4 commenting :-)

  • Well said! I love the videos and pray a revolution is near. God bless, brother!

  • no its definitely not to much to ask. damn media sensationalizing everything and desensitizing the american people.

  • You are right to point out when Fox is cheerleading for McCain or when they are plain wrong but it is a pretty big stretch to consider voicing an opinion (or incorrect fact) as a campaign contribution.

    What about NBC, Tina Fey and Sen. Clinton on SNL? What about celebrity endorsements, unequal news coverage, etc...

    My point is that voicing opinions that may or may not help a candidate in other situations in the media not considered a contribution; and rightly so.