I saw a UFO when I was around 8. I saw it up close. My family saw it at a distance. It was reported in the local news. What I saw was quite a bit different than your experience. Like you I have no beliefs about what it was. I just know that it was something.
IV seen this. A friend and I were walking home from a party one night and i saw this shooting star come down then it came to a complete stop...it hovered there for about 10 seconds then shot of in another direction at 3 times the speed.
I looked at my friend and he was shocked too, he had seen the same thing...it was amazing. Not long ago and i asked him "we really seen that thing that night right"?....he said "yeah" in a very scared voice....he doesnt like to talk about it.
@heretowritethetruth I believe it was in the early 90's. I feel I was really lucky to have had this experience. Until I am convinced otherwise, what traveled past me that evening was not man made. Each year that passes reinforces that belief. I long for the day that life on other planets is found. That knowledge may be just the kick in the butt humanity needs to trigger a new enlightenment. My wonder is always stronger than my beliefs in this area of my reality..
@Netwriter I believe it might be some type of A.I. But not man made A.I.
That's the only logical explanation my brain can deal with at this time. As for who or what's sending them out.. your guess is as good as mine. I also long for the day that life on other planets is found. I hope it's in our life time.
This is typical of most UFOs that are reported : a bright sphere of light moving across the sky. You'd expect the witness would want to talk for more than 2:4 minutes about it, though there's quite a bit of detail in this short clip. The UFO / light came within a hundred feet or so from the car, which is pretty close. It changed direction right in front of the car, arching round it. Was it coincidence that it got so close? Did either of them feel the object was aware of them?
It always amazes me how people can tell how big and how far something is when they have never seen it before if you had never seen the moon before could you tell how big and how far away it was I don't think so
I think there IS alien life out there. I mean, if there is life on earth and we're just one galaxy, imagine all the other galaxies out there. millions and millions of them, by simple chance, there HAS to be another planet like ours in one of those galaxies that is capable of producing life.
It's interesting to hear that others reported this case to the police. You should make a report on what they said (you can try :P), if they still have their accounts.
Consequently, I now return to the earlier two questions concerning the FAAs release of radar returns from the Stephenville incident, and why it authorized this release in the case of a UFO that was tracked heading towards President Bushs Crawford Ranch. The release of the radar returns suggests a significant policy change by senior national security officials within the Bush administration has occurred. Rather than debunking UFO testimonies and withholding corroborating data, the FAA is now
During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET lifeforms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that's an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he's been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it's no great leap for one to assume he's admitting knowledge of alien life.
Argentina: UFOs over lake seen by multiple witnesses
Argentina is in the middle of a massive UFO flap, with sightings occurring virtually on a daily basis. Much of this activity centres on the town of Victoria in the Entre Rios province.
One of the most recent sightings occurred on January 2 2009 starting at around 11pm. Witnesses are reported to have seen at least three UFOs. The first emerged from the body of water known as Laguna Del Pescado and then sped towards the fields...
Stanton T. Friedman received BSc and MSc degrees in physics from the University of Chicago in 1955 and 1956. He was employed for 14 years as a nuclear physicist for such companies as GE, GM, Westinghouse, TRW Systems, Aerojet General Nucleonics, and McDonnell Douglas on such advanced, classified, eventually cancelled, projects as nuclear aircraft, fission and fusion rockets, and nuclear powerplants for space.
One thing is sure aliens do visit us,may it be inter stellar travel or via dimensional rift,no one is sure ,maybe both." In fact,UFO files have the highest secret classification on the planet why would that be if there was nothing to it." (research and quote by Stanton Friedman).
There is so much evidence to the presence of aliens today and at any other time in history then there ever was of any god.If you can trounce people with other beliefs then you have this coming to you. you whi believes in imaginary gods and angels only made evident by a 2000 plus ear old cult book written by opium smoking fahkirs in a country i know nothing of and a language i will never know and im supposed to swallow all that garbage? Who's the damn fairy tale believing fool ? You are, idiot!
@Netwriter This is a fascinating experience you had and I am grateful to you for posting, despite the cretinous comments it has predictably elicited. I would like to ask you: was there much traffic on the road at the time? Did you notice anyone else stopping or slowing down to look at it? You say you noticed no sound coming from the object, but did you hear any background noise (traffic or anything at all)? Did you get any burns, rashes or other physical or physiological symptoms?
@raggedmoorlander It was I-65 so there was some traffic but not very heavy at that time of night. Yes, other vehicles slowed down especially those ahead of me as the object traveled low down the grass medium between the divided highway. I could see their brake lights coming on and that is one reason I pulled to the side of the road to be sitting still as it passed. The only thing I got unpleasant from the event was a wife screaming at me for having gotten out of the car.
@Netwriter Many thanks for answering these questions. First-hand accounts of these light forms are as valuable as gold dust to serious investigators. No brownie points for being brave enough to get out of the car, eh? Just one more thing. Have I got this right? The object / light travelled down the centre of the highway. Does this suggest to you that it was under intelligent control? Or shall I put this another way: did it behave AS IF it were under intelligent control?
@raggedmoorlander I always thought the object was under intelligent control. Traveling down the center between the North South lanes of I-65 to where it turned off in front of me and traveled away altitude & speed was constant. I do not believe the object turned in front of my car because of me or my car. It turned as soon as it had traveled far enough north on I-65 to clear the small mountain the road cuts through at this place. I got out of the car to see and hear better. I heard nothing
@Netwriter So we have a light form which seems to behave intelligently. Intelligent light forms are part of UFO lore and there are well-documented cases, but because the notion is so absurd, we look for ways to explain it which avoid having to abandon the current scientific framework. We say, maybe this apparent intelligent behaviour is due to peculiar electrostatic properties and so on. But it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so. Thx again for this extra information.
Choupick = a subhuman piece of shit. What a FUCKHEAD, that this CHILD RAPIST starts INSULTING those with DIFFERENT POVs! Only by forcing choupick to drink clorox will choupick comprehend treating those, who take the ET hypothesis seriously, with respect.
What a SHITHEAD. I'm an atheist, too. And I know other atheists who believe ET visitations. The fact is, choupick is a child molestor, since there is NO evidence whatsoever to the contrary.
Summary: Although the vast majority of Americans R completely unaware of its existence, the UFO/Nukes Connection is now remarkably well-documented. Air Force, FBI, and CIA files declassified via the Freedom of Information Act establish a convincing, ongoing pattern of UFO activity at U.S. nuclear weapons sites extending back to December 1948. ...To date, I have interviewed over 50 individuals who were involved in various UFO-related incidents at Strategic Air Command bases or remote sites.
Go to the bad astronomy web site, go to the bulletin board. In the conspiracy theory section you can see how well all these fantastical UFO/Nuke stories hold up to actual scientific investigation.
If you don't want to waste the time, I can sum it up. UFO/Nuke connection = fail. Complete and utter fail.
I made 7 posts last night proving excellent evidence 4 my claims of UFO incursions over nuclear weapons installations. I made 7 but only 3 are showing. I will cut to the chase and repost the summary and the links 2 the site. It's extensive and contains many catagories of evidence. It also has an excellent library of photos.
I provide evidence because when U make a claim U "must" provide evidence.
That's why I'm an Atheist. Obviously, I'm not going to believe in UFOs by just faith!!!
YAY! Finally, a fellow atheist who understands the (obvious to you and me, but not the dummies in the world) difference between NO proof of things, such as "god", vs large amount of independent circumstantial proof (of ETs). And, you understand that the inspiration for ALL scientific proof has to START from circumstantial anecdotal evidence - BEFORE it's been proven or disproven.
Of course after getting this inspiration, the only thing that counts is empirical evidence, which after 50 or so years is still laughably lacking in the ET/UFO arena. The bulk of the "evidence" is in the form of conspiratorial rantings about the lack of evidence. Cootabux evidence was such a joke I almost tore a muscle laughing.
Choupick knows absolutely NOTHING about the evidence for ET visits. There is a large amount of physical trace element. Google it. Read a book. Choupick makes the same denials about the Nazi-caused Holocaust (similarly, he/she denies the existence of the Spanish Inquisition, etc.)
Making idiotic wild claims, about what OTHER people think or know or belief or have taken the hard work time to gather records, while sitting on one's butt at the computer makes him look like world's biggest jackass
you are a moron. Denying the existence of extraterrestrial visitors is not like denying the holocaust. Also, I don't know who you are talking about but you obviously don't know who I am since I regularly debate holocaust deniers. The fact that you would think that I deny the Spanish Inquisition proves that you are a moron, since I'm an atheist and use that as supporting evidence all of the time.
The fact of the matter is that j97hou6 is an idiot, who obviously doesn't understand what constitutes empirical evidence. There is no evidence of ET visitors at all. Furthermore, the claims often made are so stupid as to be laughable. You would have to be a moron to think living beings are traveling billions of miles to shine lights on people, bother live stock, and make circles in corn fields. You can google anything and find nonsense to support it. Where is your peer reviewed papers?
Do you know if we believe in God were not nuts but if we believe in aliens the were on the schizphrenic called sch-pals spelling look up immune disorders and aliens and see what they call people nuts when they see aliens or believe in aliens why is that? control of the people...believing in something good What if aliens are good then what do they call people/ but they wont say it cause were not to believe in it...
I don't understand why rattlerusslers' post appeared as a reply to ME. Anyway, it makes no sense. I don't know what point she/he is trying to make. Bottom line: psychology has NEVER made ANY formal statement that belief in aliens or god is "crazy". And, even if some psychologists did, then they'd not be doing real science: they'd just be spewing personal opinions.
wrong one dude! but anyway yeah if we believe in God were ok but if we believe in aliens/demons were bad look it up immune disorders and aliens and its in the catagory of paranoid sczphrenic ect...imagine that were all nuts if we see an alien...that can soon change
Now I am totally confused. To whom is rattlerusslers saying "wrong one dude"? Cootabux? My psychology textbook (taking psychology this semester) says NOTHING about belief in god (or demons or aliens). Nor should it, really, unless it does so consistently: e.g. belief in god is crazy iff belief that Iraq had WMDs is crazy. Anyway, NO science states that belief in ET visitations or the Nazi Holocaust is a pathology. Any such assertion by a psychologist would be pure personal, political opinion.
Now what you have learned or have you been protected all your life Ask your professor this God is good and you believe in him nobody questions it but Demons/aliens are and do have a name...ask Its called controlling people believe it or not if you listen to someone then its in your brain..but if you see it and know it Is it real? schz oid....has different labels look up immune disorders and aliens and see the name that they call people who believe in aliens There now stateing people r nuts
what year ya in is pschic ? You know they send people out and about to do studies and use utube why dont you get one video up and see what you get...film school uses these sites for their grades too Might help ya alot and there are some doooozys!
From watching other UFO videos, and reading the comments of skeptics, having photos or videos of what I experienced would prove nothing more than my honest word does. No matter the quality of photos or videos, the skeptics always claim they are fake. With that said, I still wish I had photos or videos of what I witnessed.
Some witness(baton) on Tahiti one seen the same energy as you he(it) those are moved closer to the UFO and to arrive has 2 metres he(it) have was to grow again leave a magnetic singing(song) too your experience(experiment) was it similar?
Whether the story is true or not is not a question in my mind. But whether it has something to do with extraterrestrial beings on not?
Some things are hard or beyond our current understanding of the world but I can't find a reason to believe that extraterrestrial sentient beings have ever been in contact our earth. In more complex theoretical analysis I've read, it's most likely aliens have no reasons to do so. But I'm still open to possibilities.
Yes, rational explanations are propped for the vast majority of sightings, but the question is, are these *rational* explanations accurate? Remember that just a few years back rational explanations were propped to explain the phenomenon of ball lightning, from swamp gas to delusions, that all turned out to be false.
cool stuff, i had a clear close image of my experience too but it was a rippling red lava type craft that wasnt blinding but hazy without any specific pinpoint of light, the ship inside the plasma was darker than the black sky around it, i shall never forget, this was in 1998 whilst stargazing which is my hobby and how i gained the opertunity to finally see and feel what it is to see a real machine of magnificent abilities and of great mystery right in front of you, nice vid.
I've been reading the comments, which people are saying it could possibly be ball lightning. I'm 99% positive this isn't ball lightning. My first UFO I saw in GA and my second UFO in California. I lived in California for about a year, which I only heard thunder about once the whole entire year. To me it seemed odd so I looked up the conductivity of the atmosphere, which on the west side of the U.S., there is hardly any lightning because there isn't that much conductivity or something.
Since then, I've been telling people keep their eye on any comets they see. What may appear to be a comet is not always a comet.
Also, ironically, this is the second UFO I've seen, which its different from the first one I ever saw. Both times, an hour before the sightings I had a subliminal itch that something was going to be in the sky.
I do have premonitions, but do not know for sure if that is indeed why I had the subliminal itches prior to the sightings.
About a year after I saw my first UFO, an oval-spherical white light illuminated object, my brother saw the same object in the same area. Just like me he recalls a subliminal itch.
My question to you is did you or your wife have a subliminal itch, like knowing before-hand that you would see the UFO or something in the sky?
I saw the same exact thing, except the comet arched. It was on the night the U.S. shot down its spy satellite. About Thirty minutes before they shot down the spy satellite, there was a comet and an orb appeared in place of it. Immediately when it appeared, it flew at a consistent speed in one direction, then it all of a sudden stopped. About three seconds after stopping, it flared up at least four times its size and with a flash it completely disappeared.
A friend and I witnessed "earth lights" on two occasions. One time, the "light", approx. 15 ft. long, 2 or 3 ft. around, like a tube, descended, then followed us as we ran to our car. It was brilliant neon blue and white.
Just my word and a co-witness. I am not requiring anyone to believe what I saw. I just related an interesting experience I had 13 years ago to my subscribers. I believe all 1600 of them to be logical, intelligent and aware that we do not know everything that exist on the earth let alone in the cosmos.
"I make no claims as to the origins of what I saw. I could not at the time identify what it was and still to this day have not come up with a plausible natural explanation."
I respect that you can freely admit you do not know what the event was. Hooray for rationality. I've watched your videos before. I'd expect nothing else from you, good sir.
I'm stumped. I've never heard of ball lighting being as big as a house, although I have heard of it sticking around for 5-20 minutes (not terribly reliable accounts, admittedly).
As it came down the interstate, turned and passed me it was going very slow. Maybe 5 mph. As it moved away from me toward Shepardsville it seemed to pick up a little speed. It was flying very low so in a couple minutes it dropped from sight below a line of hills to the north of me.
Hardly as spectacular as yours and whats worse is I was stumbling home from the pub after a few large ones with no witnesses
I used to live a good 3km away from the pub (and civilization) I stopped for a nature call and started to stargaze (as i often do) I seen lights not 1 color but a assortment, it was moving up, down, left, right I estimated it to be about 15km away (from where i was standing to a landmark) I tried to stop cars to show them but it was 4am(ish) none would stop
According to a poll 12% of americans claimed to have seen a UFO.
It seems aliens really love having bright lights on. Have they never heard about global warning.
But its not too bright that they hurt your eyes like the sun or not to weak like regular 60 watts lamps. Just right about 1000 watts, like the ones you find at building sites.
You've never given me the impression of lying before, you've never given the impression that you would lie to gain anything from the lie and my personal gut tells me that what you saw you truely believe, I'm not gonna say I immediately believe you, because that's blind faith. But the evidence seen before add's credibility to your case.
I guess I'm just saying that I think it was real to you and that's all that matters in the end. All people have to do is choose whether to agree with you or not.
Thanks. I am not asking anyone to believe me. My wife saw the very same thing I did. I have tried to find a natural cause for what I saw but so far have not been able to do so. Even at that I make no claim that it was extraterrestrial just that it is was an unidentified flying object. The two possibilities; copter and ball lightning do not explain it. Its size, speed, silence and flight path eliminate these IMO. People can believe it or not, that does not change what I saw.
Clearly you are over-impressed with your first-person perception. Your thinking is chaotic and you ARE presenting it to at least draw attention to yourself.
I very much doubt you had the experience you describe.
You either lack the capacity to properly take in your world, or you lack the ability to be honest.
Like you Homer, I have the same 5 senses you do to decipher the world around me. You were not there, nor do you know anything about me, yet you claim my perception is faulty or I am a liar. On what basis do you make these claims about me? Does the possibility that we are not alone in this great big cosmos hurt your brain? Remember Homer, I was not the only person who saw this phenomenon nor the only person who reported it to the state police.
It never ceases to amaze me how one person feels they are an expert in something they didn't see but someone else did. This is small-mindedness at it's finest. Many a UFO witness goes from skeptic to believer in a matter of seconds. This guy is relating a strange experience at some personal risk (from people like you, I might add). Show a little respect. Do you doubt it when pilots and police see them too? Try and evolve to something resembling a homosapien will you?
This happened 13 years ago. I should have put more information in the video. I stopped about 300 feet from the Boston 1 mile interchange sign, I-65 cuts between two small mountians at this place. This thing passed between my car and the sign and then between me and the slope of the western mountain. It was lighting a circle like daylight on the ground bigger than a football field. Me and my car fell well within that circle of light as it passed.
I read that article and also one by National Geographic. This thing does not qualify. Its path was smooth and slow. This along with the weather conditions, its size and the duration of time I observed it makes the odds of it being ball lightning unlikely.
Really interesting, thanks! I'm not going to try to explain it and I don't doubt your veracity - there's probably a lot more going on in our universe than we can possibly imagine.
The double shooting star is simple enough to explain, an object entering the atmosphere broke into 2 pieces before burning up. The glowing ball is harder to explain, perhaps it was something like ball lightning, a ball of plasma created by charged particles, possibly by the meteor(s) exploding relatively low in the atmosphere. Also it may not have been as bright as you think, if this took place at night your eyes would be used to the dark and the ball seemed quite bright indeed.
This object was in my view for 5 minutes prior to passing within 100 feet of me and several minutes after, as it traveled away. It was not a small object, it was as big as a two story house. I had been driving facing oncoming headlights, so my eyes were conditioned. This head light was just 25' in diameter. I reported this to the state police when I returned home. They said there were other reports, but they told me nothing else. Time visible and its size rule out ball lightning IMO.
Ball lightning is a very mysterious phenomenon, its true I never heard of one lasting for more than 30 seconds, but it has been reported to have been several meters in diameter. But unless it was a REALLY unusual case its very unlikely. More information would be useful, did you notice if it interacted with anything physically? It could have been a near vacuum cloud or a relatively dense thing that could have moved or singed branches.
How can you tell how far away a blinding bright ball of light is? What did other people on the interstate do, surely hundreds must have seen this? Can you be 100% it made no noise? Noise from the interstate would likely drown out a small sound from the object.
Yet another brilliant expert in something they didn't see. Truly amazing. That defies logic to a far greater extent than the possibility that something extraordinary happened....
"Your honor...THAT man committed the murder...I just know it".
"Do you have any proof? These witnesses all say they saw this other guy do it".
"No, no proof, I just think this guy did it because, well my limited intellect won't allow me to believe what other people see."
Well your description pretty much matches ball lightning to a tee... I mean whats more logical? That you witnessed some intergalactic space people zig-zagging around a highway rather conspicuously? Or it was just a natural phenomenon?
The amazing thing about people who make these comments is that they know absolutely nothing about the subject because they assume from the start that ET life/UFOs simply can't exist. I've spent 20 years compiling all types of evidence on the subject.
The reason I believe that these vehicles are originally ET is because these sightings go back thousands of years. Colunbas' and his men observed them and it's in his log. So did Alex. The Great. They saw silver shields overhead, etc.
If your story is accurate, *EVERY* driver on that road would have seen the same thing, and there would have been a major story in the news that night...
Traffic was very light. I did not notice anyone else stopping, but was so focused on this thing I didn't pay attention to much else. I did notice before I stopped that some cars ahead of me were slowing down and brake lights were coming on as it passed them and they passed it.
Have you reported this to Mufon? (mufon [dot] com) If not, I recommended doing so. While to date, there has been, IMHO, no convincing evidence of extraterrestrial visitors, the odds in favor of their existence certainly keeps us curious. Cheers.
I find the whole UFO thing facinating, but I am a skeptic. I have to ask, if aliens were buzzing the earth at night, does anyone think they would have lights on them so they could be easily seen at night? Our aircraft have lights on them so other craft do not hit them. But of what use would lights be on an alien craft? For these reasons I question all night time UFO sightings.
Like I say, I'm keenly interested in this phenomenon, but many of the tv shows I see show people seeing objects at night with lights on them. It strikes me as strange an alien being would fly around at night that way. Unless Netwriter is pranking us, I don't doubt what he saw. It is a wierd mystery indeed. Maybe someday science will get to the bottom of all these sightings.
Light is a great camouflage. It was first used in WWII on the leading wing edges of fighter craft. It is what kept me from seeing the shape of what passed by me that night. Also for the same reason that our planes are lit to keep from crashing into each other at night, a craft light years from home on this planet with other craft flying around would want to be seen by them. This would be of supreme importance when radar does not detect you. Just my two cents on the subject. Take it or not.
I hope this is a parody, because positing that the aliens have no way of avoiding our slow moving aircraft other than lighting themselves in a very conspicuous manner seems quite absurd. Our own low tech stealth aircraft work just fine at night without being lit up like Christmas trees.
Also, the light as a camouflage seems weak too. It would have been more visible from above and more detectable overall. You either want to be seen or not.
I understand, but it does seem that many night time sightings of UFO involve lights of some type. Your skepticism is based on the assumption that they do not want to be seen/detected. That may not be the case. If they did not want to be seen/detected, with their superior technology, they would not been seen/detected at all. That is not the case it seems. BTW I do not claim what I saw was alien, I don't know what it was.
I think it is because our eyes are much more sensitive to light and motion at night. Add to that the smaller depth of field and the psychological effects of trying to judge things in the sky and there is a huge chance to miss judge natural phenomena at night. This is why WWII pilots crashed chasing balloons that were at 60,000 feet, ships fired at venus, and guys get horribly lost during night land navigation with two compasses and a map.
I've been in Ufology for over 20 years. While what you are talking about certainly happens, there are many cases that can't be readily discarded. Daytime sightings silimilar to Nets sighting, multiple witnesses, and especially photo and video evidence. Remember, this object came very close to Netwriter. The no noise and no aerodynamic effects (wind-wake, etc) is very common with "real" UFO phenomena.
Point taken, but an alien craft sneaking around out planet would not want to be seen. And it is not a stretch to say that if they were advanced enouph to get here, it could sense other aircraft and simply move out of the way. As far as camo goes, if the craft had no lights it would be almost impossible to see in night sky. So why have lights? Wouldn't it be more likely that this was a terestrial craft (military) they were testing?
If sneaking around is what they are trying to do, they are failing miserably. In fact the number of UFO reports are climbing each year. Gradual revelation seems to be a more likely plan.
The chance that a military air craft that appears as a 25' sphere of brilliant light seems very unlikely, don't you think? What would be its purpose? Wouldn't a secret test aircraft fly with no lights and somewhere near a military air base? I don't know what it was or where it came from and may never.
It is weird for sure, but lets remember, there were tons of reports of "alien space crafts" doing things "no terestrial craft" could do several years ago and then the US air force revealed the stealth bomber and the stealth fighter and people realized what they had been witnessing were those odd looking craft. The origional guy who say strange craft (from his small plane) "skipping like saucers" (a reporter coined the term "flying saucers") was probably seeing the Air force's (at the time)
secret "flying wing" fighters flying in formation. They also had a giant flying wing bomber at the same time. Who knows what the air force is testing now. And they would indeed need running lights etc. Alien spacecraft would not I think. (especially considering how they are reported to fly, very fast etc)
Were not these reports made near area 51 and in desert areas? What was reported over Washington state as the original flying saucers have not been determined to be air force planes.
Actually they were testing the stealth planes in a couple different air bases, not just area 51 and people who reported them as alien space craft later came back and admited what they had seen were stealth planes.
If they were reported as UFO, at the time that is just what they were. Since they were secret the public was not aware of them they were unidentified flying objects. The military finally identified them.
If in a few years the military makes known that it has 25' flying sphere that lights up and flies 5 mph, my quandary will end, and what I saw will no longer be a UFO.
Exactly. I don't doubt your sighting, I just think we need to keep an open mind and not decide what it is (or is not) based on scant evidence. My only wish is that what you saw had crashed by the highway and you (and others) could have examened it, and who (or what) was flying it. I think that would be the coolest thing in the world.
I agree. In Mexico, they are aparently everywhere. They say you can see them almost every night...and day. Of course, the overwhelming majority of the paople there are Indian, and don't freak out everytime they see a UFO. It's part of their culture (and our culture here), ancient and present. Evidentily the Mexican military feels the same way. they simply don't mess with them, as if they could anyway, but I'm sure the prevailing wisdom there says "show no hostility towards them." Smart!
Wow , interesting story, not at all what i was expecting from you netwriter. I thought for sure this would be a joke in the end. Especially when you said kentucky. I live in the tri-state where KY/OH/WV border and theres always some crazy person around here to make us look like wierdo's ;).
In any event nice story, I hope someday i can expeience something i can't explain it would make life more interesting. Unfortunately so far i've been able to explain everything in my life :(.
Is this for real? Although I have to say, I lived in southern Indiana (New Albany area) for a number of years and saw some strange things. (Things that I have never again seen since moving down to North Carolina.) Do you think it could have been something from Wright Patterson AFB? Just a thought.
It's possible you were miss-judging distances due to the brightness of the light. A US battle ship fired AA guns at Venus thinking it was an attacking aircraft. A small turbine helicopter with it's search light on could easily seem noiseless at the right altitude, yet still have a very bright search light that overwhelmed everything.
The shooting star could have been just that. A fireball that broke apart.
A series of unlikely coincidences that added to the experience.
Skeptics always find it necessary to change the parameters of a sighting in order to explain it. They take out aspects of a sighting to rationalize it, because they KNOW that the event AS DESCRIBED was unexplainable by conventional means. It was LIGHTING THE ROAD BENEATH IT....IT MOVED AROUND THE CAR. Do the math, partner.
Wow, it lit the road, like a high power krypton search light. It was quiet, like a small turbine helicopter would be flying at a higher altitude than assumed or in an acoustic dead zone. If it were lower it might have had a circle or static electricity around the rotors that looks quite spooky. I know because I see crap like this all the time working with helicopters.
Please forgive me for not assuming right off the bat that aliens flew trillions of miles to shine a light on some stranger on a road. Even the author doesn't attribute anything magic to the event, he only states that he doesn't know what it could have been. Throughout history, time and time again we see humans being fooled by natural events. It is far more likely to have an ordinary explanation than not. Don't get mad at me because I'm not a gullible shmuck like you.
Again, we see a skeptic make huge leaps of logic while changing the characteristics of a sighting. Look at the hoops you have to jump through to explain what the Vietnam vet saw. You truly are insulting his intelligence, and you still can't help but change the description to account for the event. Your logic is weak and easily outmanuevered. If a helicopter is close enough to light up the road, you'd hear it. Spooky looking static on the rotors? Please.
I didn't dictate what he saw, I was merely putting forth natural explanations. This is what the entire scientific method is based on. Your information regarding helicopters is wrong. I too am a combat vet and I have worked with helis. You can indeed light up a road from quite a high altitude where a small modern heli might not be heard.
The problem here is you start off wanting a magical, improbable explanation, therefore you will always miss any natural explanation.
No matter what crazy explanation I offer, it is still a billion times more likely than an interstellar traveler doing a low level pass with full lights on. A flying fish with a flashlight stuck in his mouth is a million times more likely than some other worldly being zipping around our tiny back woods planet trying to blind some bipedal apes with a bright light. On a list of things that can cause the human sensory system to detect a quiet bright moving light, alien joy riders are last.
First, you're not helping your case by admitting your explanations are crazy. Second, as you've likely never left the planet yourself, you do not know in the slightest what is "more likely". Where are your statistics to back up that statement?
Third, IF there are aliens visiting, we do not know what they are "trying" to do. Arrogance also assumes whatever is going on has to do with us in some way. For all we know the glow is a byproduct of a propulsion system.
In any case, you have brought up aliens more than once, and I only bring up that subject because you have. As DESCRIBED, this object cannot be explained by conventional means. Note at the end how you again try to minimalize the scope of the event with your description of a mere "quiet bright moving light".
A reader who hadn't seen the above video might conclude the witness had seen some starlike object moving off in the distance when we know this is not the case. Do you want to keep going? I've got more.
By the way, where does anyone state they are "wanting a magical, improbable explanation"? I don't recall writing that nor seeing it in the video. A common mistake you guys make without thinking it through, is that because a sighting can't be explained by conventional means, the "vacuum" of an explanation implies an extraterrestrial component. Neither I nor the witness have implied any such thing, but your knee-jerk reaction is to explain why it's not aliens. Doesn't that strike you as odd?
Well, you have to be implying something crazy because in my initial post I was merely positing some possible causes. My comments were intended for netwriter. YOU came in and started calling names, questioning my logic, and generally pouting. If you threw that stupid tantrum to say "no one knows" then you are an idiot, because I made no such assertions to having any knowledge of the incident.
(1)No, what I'm implying is that the explanations you've posited don't match the sighting. Very simple. (2)What name did I call you? I've kept it polite. You've called me an idiot and a retard. (3) You still haven't offered your statistics on how flashlight carrying flying fish are more likely than an alien spacecraft. (4) I'm also waiting to hear who said they were looking for a "magical" explanation, or indeed who said they were looking for one at all? I'm merely saying....
....your explanations don't fit the sighting. People just like you thought the world was flat, and that the human body would disintigrate if pushed beyond 70mph. Fortunately people like you are always left behind when new and exciting discoveries are made (and never BY people like you, I might add. Interstellar space travel was once considered impossible. Now, Einstine's theory that light speed can't be breached is under direct assault by physicists who don't take "impossible" for an answer.
"My comments were intended for netwriter" Now you're whining that your comments were intended for the witness, the implication being no one else has a right to respond to you. Waaaaah! He seems like a straight-up guy and I feel like defending him. Too frikkin bad!
I think he is a straight up guy too. You weren't defending him because I wasn't attacking him. You were simply being a condescending credulous dick. Go back and read my initial post. The only people here I question are you and that other kook.
I see "debunker" mentality all the time. After they put forth their "must-be-natural" explanation, they usually say something to show that they have their mind made up regardless of the evidence.
He should look into all of the UFO incursions over Nuclear Weapon bases and cases where they shut down missles in their silos. Two of the officers involved in that case (now retired) have gone public. The surface guards saw 2 large disks hovering.
You should provide actual evidence for your "cases" and show that the best possible answer is whatever you think they are. People have a debunker mentality because there is no evidence. Do you believe that demons are impregnating women, that witches are destroying crops, or that unicorns exist? Why not, and what evidence so you have for UFO's that is better than the religious hypothesis of a flying virgin mary.
Evidence is exactly my point. UFO Phen. isn't a religion, it isn't something you have to have faith to believe exists. There is "overwhelming" evidence, but you have to look at it. I know you haven't because you start with a closed mind to even consider the evidence because you obvioulsy think that it can't possibly be real because it doesn't fit into your preconceived notion of how the world is.
My present interest is in UFOs encounters in our space program. There's a wealth of evid.
"it isn't something you have to have faith to believe exists."
Not faith, wishful thinking. Believing in god takes "faith" seeing the virgin Mary dance around the sun takes wishful thinking. Believing it happened because a bunch of people say it did is not overwhelming evidence. Your UFO stuff is no different than the virgin Mary sightings. Actually, more people have seen the virgin Mary flying than any UFO.
I'm not talking about wishful thinking, and a "bunch" of people. I'm talking about military personell, Astrinauts, intelligence people, SAC pilots, missle launch commanders, etc, "combined" with quality video/photo evid. with lannding trace cases, radar...but why go on. You are not interested in the evidence. If you are, then just start digging, you find it.
The plural of anecdote is not evidence. Do you have anything other than stories of strange sightings? Funny how I have taken thousands of astro-photographs and not one alien shows up. I have satellites, shuttles, space stations, meteors, and airplanes on film, but no alien craft. Yet some people have them breaking into their trailer or shining million candle power lights at them.
There is a lot of NASA footage, which they now go to a great degree of trouble to hide and distort. I myself have about 10 DVDs of nothing but NASA Shuttle footage of some extraordinary phenomena..and I don't think it's us.
BTW, there is a video clip right here on youtube about the AF Academy Physics manual with the chapter on UFOs.
I am good friends with some NASA scientist and was married to an air force pilot. We laughed at ET believers all the time. I guess they "really" know, but they aren't letting me in on it.
Remember that just because we can't explain something on film or in a photo, doesn't mean it supports your position. This is the same faulty thinking creationist use. You have to have positive evidence. Blurs, sparkles, and other crap is only evidence for other crap existing, not interstellar travelers.
I didn't ask if you were a believer in Yahweh. I was asking what evidence do you have that all the UFO sightings aren't the virgin mary flying around. Countless Catholics see the virgin mary in all manner of places including hovering in the sky and dancing around the sun. They have the same bad photos and the same testimony from sometimes thousands of people. What is more likely that there are both ETs and magical virgins flying around, just one and the others are fooled, or neither?
No evidence? Astronauts with PHDs have come forward to say there is indeed evidence. Radar/visual sightings, multiple witness cases, ground trace cases. Don't say "no evidence", say "not enough evidence for ME." Big difference between the two.
Anecdotes are not evidence, no matter how many you assemble. Anecdotal evidence is often wrong and is considered highly unreliable in a court of law. How many people who were "witnessed" committing a crime have been set free by actual empirical evidence? Blurry photos, bad video, stories from pilots, and other inconclusive data is not evidence. If you have photos, video footage, or telemetry from a radar for UFO's of extraterrestrial origin please put it forward.
Otherwise your tales are no different than the thousands of bigfoot sightings, lochness monster sightings, crop circles, and other made up crap, no matter who says it. History is full of this garbage. Before UFO's it was demons and angles flying around raping women and handing down divine instructions. Just because you accept such magical thinking doesn't make it count. Science was developed specifically to ensure people didn't think like you do.
Anecdotes. Hmmm. I can't believ I let this get past me, I must be getting old. You said "If it were lower it might have had a circle or static electricity around the rotors that looks quite spooky. I know because I see crap like this all the time working with helicopters". Really? if I didn't know better, I'd say that's an anecdote! We'd like to see some documentation for the existence of that phenomenon please. Your video? Photos?
...made. You claimed I called you a name, a claim you can't back up. You claim to know our motivations in regards to the subject with no evidence. You claim to have statistics which prove a flying, flashlight-eqipped fish is a more likely explanation of this UFO sighting than extraterrestrials, despite the fact that you weren't there and have never been to another planet. As you have begun to feel the trap I've set for you you have become more angry and lashed out, calling into question your own
mental state and debate abilities. I can expect more I'm sure, since you can't remain civil. I don't care what the truth is here. Some people are believers no matter what, some are skeptical no matter what. Either position is useless. When an explanation fits a sighting, I'm all for it. When something's not easily explained, I want the remaining questions answered, not dismissed out of hand. I don't give thought to the implications of an answer because it pollutes
I saw a UFO when I was around 8. I saw it up close. My family saw it at a distance. It was reported in the local news. What I saw was quite a bit different than your experience. Like you I have no beliefs about what it was. I just know that it was something.
MSPEL 6 months ago
IV seen this. A friend and I were walking home from a party one night and i saw this shooting star come down then it came to a complete stop...it hovered there for about 10 seconds then shot of in another direction at 3 times the speed.
I looked at my friend and he was shocked too, he had seen the same thing...it was amazing. Not long ago and i asked him "we really seen that thing that night right"?....he said "yeah" in a very scared voice....he doesnt like to talk about it.
MAKER6450 9 months ago
I'm speechless. Amazing story. I believe you 100%!
What year did this happen? I'm sure by now you have heard of all the sightings around the world. What could these things be? A.I. maybe?
heretowritethetruth 9 months ago
@heretowritethetruth I believe it was in the early 90's. I feel I was really lucky to have had this experience. Until I am convinced otherwise, what traveled past me that evening was not man made. Each year that passes reinforces that belief. I long for the day that life on other planets is found. That knowledge may be just the kick in the butt humanity needs to trigger a new enlightenment. My wonder is always stronger than my beliefs in this area of my reality..
Netwriter 9 months ago
@Netwriter I believe it might be some type of A.I. But not man made A.I.
That's the only logical explanation my brain can deal with at this time. As for who or what's sending them out.. your guess is as good as mine. I also long for the day that life on other planets is found. I hope it's in our life time.
heretowritethetruth 9 months ago
Ball lightning?
revjimbob 1 year ago
This is typical of most UFOs that are reported : a bright sphere of light moving across the sky. You'd expect the witness would want to talk for more than 2:4 minutes about it, though there's quite a bit of detail in this short clip. The UFO / light came within a hundred feet or so from the car, which is pretty close. It changed direction right in front of the car, arching round it. Was it coincidence that it got so close? Did either of them feel the object was aware of them?
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
It always amazes me how people can tell how big and how far something is when they have never seen it before if you had never seen the moon before could you tell how big and how far away it was I don't think so
terry4144 1 year ago
@terry4144 He said he "estimated" the size and distance, and in this day and age why is that so hard to believe?
Watching his other videos, I can see he is intelligent enough to make an approximate estimate for the sake of sharing the experience.
Seektruth1st 1 year ago
@Seektruth1st
could you estimate the size and distance of the moon
j and just because you cant explain something
terry4144 1 year ago
@terry4144 Well if I see the clouds covering it I know its further up than they are.
I know that many stars are bigger than it so it must be closer than they are.
I could estimate the moon being 3cm wide it still does not negate what I see.
The visuals used in this video show that the light only lit up a small portion of the ground, suggesting it was close.
The estimates he gives could be triple each claim, all that matters is this is how he perceived it. He is not making claiming fact.
Seektruth1st 1 year ago
I think there IS alien life out there. I mean, if there is life on earth and we're just one galaxy, imagine all the other galaxies out there. millions and millions of them, by simple chance, there HAS to be another planet like ours in one of those galaxies that is capable of producing life.
KakashiHatake212 1 year ago
It's interesting to hear that others reported this case to the police. You should make a report on what they said (you can try :P), if they still have their accounts.
ComputerJA 2 years ago
Holy crap! I experienced the same shooting star after my missing time. Wow
wndannja 2 years ago
Consequently, I now return to the earlier two questions concerning the FAAs release of radar returns from the Stephenville incident, and why it authorized this release in the case of a UFO that was tracked heading towards President Bushs Crawford Ranch. The release of the radar returns suggests a significant policy change by senior national security officials within the Bush administration has occurred. Rather than debunking UFO testimonies and withholding corroborating data, the FAA is now
GodlessPeace 3 years ago
Unknown objects are operating under intelligent control... It is imperative that we learn where UFOs come from and what their purpose is...
- Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter Director, Central Intelligence Agency 1947-1950
GodlessPeace 3 years ago
UFO's aslo come from other planets, i seen starwar like UFO's,
nice vid!
quisqueyatv 3 years ago
During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET lifeforms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that's an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he's been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it's no great leap for one to assume he's admitting knowledge of alien life.
GodlessPeace 3 years ago 2
Argentina: UFOs over lake seen by multiple witnesses
Argentina is in the middle of a massive UFO flap, with sightings occurring virtually on a daily basis. Much of this activity centres on the town of Victoria in the Entre Rios province.
One of the most recent sightings occurred on January 2 2009 starting at around 11pm. Witnesses are reported to have seen at least three UFOs. The first emerged from the body of water known as Laguna Del Pescado and then sped towards the fields...
GodlessPeace 3 years ago
Stanton T. Friedman received BSc and MSc degrees in physics from the University of Chicago in 1955 and 1956. He was employed for 14 years as a nuclear physicist for such companies as GE, GM, Westinghouse, TRW Systems, Aerojet General Nucleonics, and McDonnell Douglas on such advanced, classified, eventually cancelled, projects as nuclear aircraft, fission and fusion rockets, and nuclear powerplants for space.
GodlessPeace 3 years ago
One thing is sure aliens do visit us,may it be inter stellar travel or via dimensional rift,no one is sure ,maybe both." In fact,UFO files have the highest secret classification on the planet why would that be if there was nothing to it." (research and quote by Stanton Friedman).
GodlessPeace 3 years ago
There is so much evidence to the presence of aliens today and at any other time in history then there ever was of any god.If you can trounce people with other beliefs then you have this coming to you. you whi believes in imaginary gods and angels only made evident by a 2000 plus ear old cult book written by opium smoking fahkirs in a country i know nothing of and a language i will never know and im supposed to swallow all that garbage? Who's the damn fairy tale believing fool ? You are, idiot!
GodlessPeace 3 years ago
b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t!!wat a most fakest ufo i had ever seen..did u all guys c the car??its juz like sum 3d car races games...
SecretHou 3 years ago
The slides in this video are only representations of the story, not actual pictures of the event.
Netwriter 3 years ago
@Netwriter This is a fascinating experience you had and I am grateful to you for posting, despite the cretinous comments it has predictably elicited. I would like to ask you: was there much traffic on the road at the time? Did you notice anyone else stopping or slowing down to look at it? You say you noticed no sound coming from the object, but did you hear any background noise (traffic or anything at all)? Did you get any burns, rashes or other physical or physiological symptoms?
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander It was I-65 so there was some traffic but not very heavy at that time of night. Yes, other vehicles slowed down especially those ahead of me as the object traveled low down the grass medium between the divided highway. I could see their brake lights coming on and that is one reason I pulled to the side of the road to be sitting still as it passed. The only thing I got unpleasant from the event was a wife screaming at me for having gotten out of the car.
Netwriter 1 year ago
@Netwriter Many thanks for answering these questions. First-hand accounts of these light forms are as valuable as gold dust to serious investigators. No brownie points for being brave enough to get out of the car, eh? Just one more thing. Have I got this right? The object / light travelled down the centre of the highway. Does this suggest to you that it was under intelligent control? Or shall I put this another way: did it behave AS IF it were under intelligent control?
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander I always thought the object was under intelligent control. Traveling down the center between the North South lanes of I-65 to where it turned off in front of me and traveled away altitude & speed was constant. I do not believe the object turned in front of my car because of me or my car. It turned as soon as it had traveled far enough north on I-65 to clear the small mountain the road cuts through at this place. I got out of the car to see and hear better. I heard nothing
Netwriter 1 year ago
@Netwriter So we have a light form which seems to behave intelligently. Intelligent light forms are part of UFO lore and there are well-documented cases, but because the notion is so absurd, we look for ways to explain it which avoid having to abandon the current scientific framework. We say, maybe this apparent intelligent behaviour is due to peculiar electrostatic properties and so on. But it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so. Thx again for this extra information.
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
Choupick = a subhuman piece of shit. What a FUCKHEAD, that this CHILD RAPIST starts INSULTING those with DIFFERENT POVs! Only by forcing choupick to drink clorox will choupick comprehend treating those, who take the ET hypothesis seriously, with respect.
What a SHITHEAD. I'm an atheist, too. And I know other atheists who believe ET visitations. The fact is, choupick is a child molestor, since there is NO evidence whatsoever to the contrary.
j97hou6 3 years ago
Sigh, I never thought this would come from you.
Trastlol 3 years ago
biots exploring the galaxy
eliteobserver 3 years ago
Pt.5
Summary: Although the vast majority of Americans R completely unaware of its existence, the UFO/Nukes Connection is now remarkably well-documented. Air Force, FBI, and CIA files declassified via the Freedom of Information Act establish a convincing, ongoing pattern of UFO activity at U.S. nuclear weapons sites extending back to December 1948. ...To date, I have interviewed over 50 individuals who were involved in various UFO-related incidents at Strategic Air Command bases or remote sites.
Cootabux 3 years ago
Go to the bad astronomy web site, go to the bulletin board. In the conspiracy theory section you can see how well all these fantastical UFO/Nuke stories hold up to actual scientific investigation.
If you don't want to waste the time, I can sum it up. UFO/Nuke connection = fail. Complete and utter fail.
choupick 3 years ago
I made 7 posts last night proving excellent evidence 4 my claims of UFO incursions over nuclear weapons installations. I made 7 but only 3 are showing. I will cut to the chase and repost the summary and the links 2 the site. It's extensive and contains many catagories of evidence. It also has an excellent library of photos.
I provide evidence because when U make a claim U "must" provide evidence.
That's why I'm an Atheist. Obviously, I'm not going to believe in UFOs by just faith!!!
Cootabux 3 years ago 2
YAY! Finally, a fellow atheist who understands the (obvious to you and me, but not the dummies in the world) difference between NO proof of things, such as "god", vs large amount of independent circumstantial proof (of ETs). And, you understand that the inspiration for ALL scientific proof has to START from circumstantial anecdotal evidence - BEFORE it's been proven or disproven.
j97hou6 3 years ago
Of course after getting this inspiration, the only thing that counts is empirical evidence, which after 50 or so years is still laughably lacking in the ET/UFO arena. The bulk of the "evidence" is in the form of conspiratorial rantings about the lack of evidence. Cootabux evidence was such a joke I almost tore a muscle laughing.
choupick 3 years ago
Choupick knows absolutely NOTHING about the evidence for ET visits. There is a large amount of physical trace element. Google it. Read a book. Choupick makes the same denials about the Nazi-caused Holocaust (similarly, he/she denies the existence of the Spanish Inquisition, etc.)
Making idiotic wild claims, about what OTHER people think or know or belief or have taken the hard work time to gather records, while sitting on one's butt at the computer makes him look like world's biggest jackass
j97hou6 3 years ago
you are a moron. Denying the existence of extraterrestrial visitors is not like denying the holocaust. Also, I don't know who you are talking about but you obviously don't know who I am since I regularly debate holocaust deniers. The fact that you would think that I deny the Spanish Inquisition proves that you are a moron, since I'm an atheist and use that as supporting evidence all of the time.
choupick 3 years ago
The fact of the matter is that j97hou6 is an idiot, who obviously doesn't understand what constitutes empirical evidence. There is no evidence of ET visitors at all. Furthermore, the claims often made are so stupid as to be laughable. You would have to be a moron to think living beings are traveling billions of miles to shine lights on people, bother live stock, and make circles in corn fields. You can google anything and find nonsense to support it. Where is your peer reviewed papers?
choupick 3 years ago
Do you know if we believe in God were not nuts but if we believe in aliens the were on the schizphrenic called sch-pals spelling look up immune disorders and aliens and see what they call people nuts when they see aliens or believe in aliens why is that? control of the people...believing in something good What if aliens are good then what do they call people/ but they wont say it cause were not to believe in it...
rattlerusslers 3 years ago
I don't understand why rattlerusslers' post appeared as a reply to ME. Anyway, it makes no sense. I don't know what point she/he is trying to make. Bottom line: psychology has NEVER made ANY formal statement that belief in aliens or god is "crazy". And, even if some psychologists did, then they'd not be doing real science: they'd just be spewing personal opinions.
j97hou6 3 years ago
wrong one dude! but anyway yeah if we believe in God were ok but if we believe in aliens/demons were bad look it up immune disorders and aliens and its in the catagory of paranoid sczphrenic ect...imagine that were all nuts if we see an alien...that can soon change
rattlerusslers 3 years ago
Now I am totally confused. To whom is rattlerusslers saying "wrong one dude"? Cootabux? My psychology textbook (taking psychology this semester) says NOTHING about belief in god (or demons or aliens). Nor should it, really, unless it does so consistently: e.g. belief in god is crazy iff belief that Iraq had WMDs is crazy. Anyway, NO science states that belief in ET visitations or the Nazi Holocaust is a pathology. Any such assertion by a psychologist would be pure personal, political opinion.
j97hou6 3 years ago
Now what you have learned or have you been protected all your life Ask your professor this God is good and you believe in him nobody questions it but Demons/aliens are and do have a name...ask Its called controlling people believe it or not if you listen to someone then its in your brain..but if you see it and know it Is it real? schz oid....has different labels look up immune disorders and aliens and see the name that they call people who believe in aliens There now stateing people r nuts
rattlerusslers 3 years ago
what year ya in is pschic ? You know they send people out and about to do studies and use utube why dont you get one video up and see what you get...film school uses these sites for their grades too Might help ya alot and there are some doooozys!
rattlerusslers 3 years ago
The key to this is the phrase you uttered near the end of the video...
"...that I am aware of."
It truly is a UFO in this case, because you cannot identify what you saw.
Other than that, there is nothing else to say because you have onlky your word, meaning, not photos or video.
messiahjonz 3 years ago
From watching other UFO videos, and reading the comments of skeptics, having photos or videos of what I experienced would prove nothing more than my honest word does. No matter the quality of photos or videos, the skeptics always claim they are fake. With that said, I still wish I had photos or videos of what I witnessed.
Netwriter 3 years ago
You know, as I wrote my previous response, I thought the very same thing. Photoshop does wonders right? But wouldn't be nice?
messiahjonz 3 years ago
@Netwriter
Mr Netwriter i believe you. I saw exactly the same type of light.
I'm an M.I.T. PhD mathematician and have no reason to lie.
ArteTuga 1 year ago
That's some weird shit Netwriter.
zbambam5 3 years ago
rad!
cant explain that one, but im willing to put it down in my "we'll figure it out later" file.
Brettah31 3 years ago
Some witness(baton) on Tahiti one seen the same energy as you he(it) those are moved closer to the UFO and to arrive has 2 metres he(it) have was to grow again leave a magnetic singing(song) too your experience(experiment) was it similar?
I I them filmed has distance above house.
tahitiovni 3 years ago
Whether the story is true or not is not a question in my mind. But whether it has something to do with extraterrestrial beings on not?
Some things are hard or beyond our current understanding of the world but I can't find a reason to believe that extraterrestrial sentient beings have ever been in contact our earth. In more complex theoretical analysis I've read, it's most likely aliens have no reasons to do so. But I'm still open to possibilities.
onotheo 3 years ago
Remember theirs always a rational explanation for things like this.
AngryBrit17 3 years ago
Yes, rational explanations are propped for the vast majority of sightings, but the question is, are these *rational* explanations accurate? Remember that just a few years back rational explanations were propped to explain the phenomenon of ball lightning, from swamp gas to delusions, that all turned out to be false.
Netwriter 3 years ago
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
MadHatterHatred 3 years ago
cool stuff, i had a clear close image of my experience too but it was a rippling red lava type craft that wasnt blinding but hazy without any specific pinpoint of light, the ship inside the plasma was darker than the black sky around it, i shall never forget, this was in 1998 whilst stargazing which is my hobby and how i gained the opertunity to finally see and feel what it is to see a real machine of magnificent abilities and of great mystery right in front of you, nice vid.
01101100d 3 years ago
I've been reading the comments, which people are saying it could possibly be ball lightning. I'm 99% positive this isn't ball lightning. My first UFO I saw in GA and my second UFO in California. I lived in California for about a year, which I only heard thunder about once the whole entire year. To me it seemed odd so I looked up the conductivity of the atmosphere, which on the west side of the U.S., there is hardly any lightning because there isn't that much conductivity or something.
Voidka 3 years ago
Since then, I've been telling people keep their eye on any comets they see. What may appear to be a comet is not always a comet.
Also, ironically, this is the second UFO I've seen, which its different from the first one I ever saw. Both times, an hour before the sightings I had a subliminal itch that something was going to be in the sky.
I do have premonitions, but do not know for sure if that is indeed why I had the subliminal itches prior to the sightings.
Voidka 3 years ago
About a year after I saw my first UFO, an oval-spherical white light illuminated object, my brother saw the same object in the same area. Just like me he recalls a subliminal itch.
My question to you is did you or your wife have a subliminal itch, like knowing before-hand that you would see the UFO or something in the sky?
Voidka 3 years ago
@Voidka Neither of us had any advanced knowledge or hunch this was going to happen.
Netwriter 1 year ago
I saw the same exact thing, except the comet arched. It was on the night the U.S. shot down its spy satellite. About Thirty minutes before they shot down the spy satellite, there was a comet and an orb appeared in place of it. Immediately when it appeared, it flew at a consistent speed in one direction, then it all of a sudden stopped. About three seconds after stopping, it flared up at least four times its size and with a flash it completely disappeared.
Voidka 3 years ago
A friend and I witnessed "earth lights" on two occasions. One time, the "light", approx. 15 ft. long, 2 or 3 ft. around, like a tube, descended, then followed us as we ran to our car. It was brilliant neon blue and white.
johnnyk2112 3 years ago
Yeah... sure. Any proof besides your word?
garamri 3 years ago
Just my word and a co-witness. I am not requiring anyone to believe what I saw. I just related an interesting experience I had 13 years ago to my subscribers. I believe all 1600 of them to be logical, intelligent and aware that we do not know everything that exist on the earth let alone in the cosmos.
"Wisest is he who knows he knows nothing."
- Socrates
Netwriter 3 years ago
"M. Fitzgeralds account of ball lightning on August 6, 1868, in Ireland that lasted 20 minutes"
en . wikipedia . org /wiki/Ball_lightening#Possible_scientific_explanations
Check that out and let us know what you think.
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago
"I make no claims as to the origins of what I saw. I could not at the time identify what it was and still to this day have not come up with a plausible natural explanation."
I respect that you can freely admit you do not know what the event was. Hooray for rationality. I've watched your videos before. I'd expect nothing else from you, good sir.
jesterspace 3 years ago
How about a hallucination? It happens...
monstermash9 3 years ago
He says his wife saw it too.
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago
I know this is very unlikely, but could it have been mirrors. nah, that doesn't make sense. ill think about it and tell you if i think of anything.
fishe153 3 years ago
Crafts that YOU are aware of...
Looks like you don't know about the XR-27 B Javelin. That thing is wicked.
......I want to believe...
Cragnous 3 years ago
Where can I find information on the XR-27B. Was it around in 1995?
Netwriter 3 years ago
Wow, that's totally weird.
How fast would you say it was going?
I'm stumped. I've never heard of ball lighting being as big as a house, although I have heard of it sticking around for 5-20 minutes (not terribly reliable accounts, admittedly).
Roostring 3 years ago
As it came down the interstate, turned and passed me it was going very slow. Maybe 5 mph. As it moved away from me toward Shepardsville it seemed to pick up a little speed. It was flying very low so in a couple minutes it dropped from sight below a line of hills to the north of me.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Hardly as spectacular as yours and whats worse is I was stumbling home from the pub after a few large ones with no witnesses
I used to live a good 3km away from the pub (and civilization) I stopped for a nature call and started to stargaze (as i often do) I seen lights not 1 color but a assortment, it was moving up, down, left, right I estimated it to be about 15km away (from where i was standing to a landmark) I tried to stop cars to show them but it was 4am(ish) none would stop
I Dunno!!
666daedsidog 3 years ago
According to a poll 12% of americans claimed to have seen a UFO.
It seems aliens really love having bright lights on. Have they never heard about global warning.
But its not too bright that they hurt your eyes like the sun or not to weak like regular 60 watts lamps. Just right about 1000 watts, like the ones you find at building sites.
CognosSquare 3 years ago
What a great experience.....I've wished for something like that for a while, you're lucky!
chandrew08 3 years ago
It was the flying spaghetti monster, he wanted to let you know that he loves you and will send you to hell if you dont love him back.
sweatytoothmadman 3 years ago
lol That is a better explanation than ball lightning. I did not observe any noodly appendages though or smell spaghetti sauce as it passed by. :)
Netwriter 3 years ago
You've never given me the impression of lying before, you've never given the impression that you would lie to gain anything from the lie and my personal gut tells me that what you saw you truely believe, I'm not gonna say I immediately believe you, because that's blind faith. But the evidence seen before add's credibility to your case.
I guess I'm just saying that I think it was real to you and that's all that matters in the end. All people have to do is choose whether to agree with you or not.
scionlightning 3 years ago
Thanks. I am not asking anyone to believe me. My wife saw the very same thing I did. I have tried to find a natural cause for what I saw but so far have not been able to do so. Even at that I make no claim that it was extraterrestrial just that it is was an unidentified flying object. The two possibilities; copter and ball lightning do not explain it. Its size, speed, silence and flight path eliminate these IMO. People can believe it or not, that does not change what I saw.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Clearly you are over-impressed with your first-person perception. Your thinking is chaotic and you ARE presenting it to at least draw attention to yourself.
I very much doubt you had the experience you describe.
You either lack the capacity to properly take in your world, or you lack the ability to be honest.
Either way I am unsubscribing.
homerthompsonman 3 years ago
Like you Homer, I have the same 5 senses you do to decipher the world around me. You were not there, nor do you know anything about me, yet you claim my perception is faulty or I am a liar. On what basis do you make these claims about me? Does the possibility that we are not alone in this great big cosmos hurt your brain? Remember Homer, I was not the only person who saw this phenomenon nor the only person who reported it to the state police.
Netwriter 3 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how one person feels they are an expert in something they didn't see but someone else did. This is small-mindedness at it's finest. Many a UFO witness goes from skeptic to believer in a matter of seconds. This guy is relating a strange experience at some personal risk (from people like you, I might add). Show a little respect. Do you doubt it when pilots and police see them too? Try and evolve to something resembling a homosapien will you?
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
You are ignoring duration.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Interesting. Please do a follow-up if more information becomes avaliable.
I would like to have my skeptic views challenged although most everything turns out to be disappointing or inconclusive.
Clausfarre 3 years ago
This happened 13 years ago. I should have put more information in the video. I stopped about 300 feet from the Boston 1 mile interchange sign, I-65 cuts between two small mountians at this place. This thing passed between my car and the sign and then between me and the slope of the western mountain. It was lighting a circle like daylight on the ground bigger than a football field. Me and my car fell well within that circle of light as it passed.
Netwriter 3 years ago
I read that article and also one by National Geographic. This thing does not qualify. Its path was smooth and slow. This along with the weather conditions, its size and the duration of time I observed it makes the odds of it being ball lightning unlikely.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Really interesting, thanks! I'm not going to try to explain it and I don't doubt your veracity - there's probably a lot more going on in our universe than we can possibly imagine.
templarart 3 years ago
The double shooting star is simple enough to explain, an object entering the atmosphere broke into 2 pieces before burning up. The glowing ball is harder to explain, perhaps it was something like ball lightning, a ball of plasma created by charged particles, possibly by the meteor(s) exploding relatively low in the atmosphere. Also it may not have been as bright as you think, if this took place at night your eyes would be used to the dark and the ball seemed quite bright indeed.
wakeangel2001 3 years ago
This object was in my view for 5 minutes prior to passing within 100 feet of me and several minutes after, as it traveled away. It was not a small object, it was as big as a two story house. I had been driving facing oncoming headlights, so my eyes were conditioned. This head light was just 25' in diameter. I reported this to the state police when I returned home. They said there were other reports, but they told me nothing else. Time visible and its size rule out ball lightning IMO.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Ball lightning is a very mysterious phenomenon, its true I never heard of one lasting for more than 30 seconds, but it has been reported to have been several meters in diameter. But unless it was a REALLY unusual case its very unlikely. More information would be useful, did you notice if it interacted with anything physically? It could have been a near vacuum cloud or a relatively dense thing that could have moved or singed branches.
wakeangel2001 3 years ago
Sounds like ball lightning.
GetMeThere1 3 years ago
How can you tell how far away a blinding bright ball of light is? What did other people on the interstate do, surely hundreds must have seen this? Can you be 100% it made no noise? Noise from the interstate would likely drown out a small sound from the object.
Celladore0 3 years ago
Ball lightning... Case closed.
ArchieAA 3 years ago
Yet another brilliant expert in something they didn't see. Truly amazing. That defies logic to a far greater extent than the possibility that something extraordinary happened....
"Your honor...THAT man committed the murder...I just know it".
"Do you have any proof? These witnesses all say they saw this other guy do it".
"No, no proof, I just think this guy did it because, well my limited intellect won't allow me to believe what other people see."
"Well then, case closed I reckon!"
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
Well your description pretty much matches ball lightning to a tee... I mean whats more logical? That you witnessed some intergalactic space people zig-zagging around a highway rather conspicuously? Or it was just a natural phenomenon?
ArchieAA 3 years ago
aerodynamic1
The amazing thing about people who make these comments is that they know absolutely nothing about the subject because they assume from the start that ET life/UFOs simply can't exist. I've spent 20 years compiling all types of evidence on the subject.
The reason I believe that these vehicles are originally ET is because these sightings go back thousands of years. Colunbas' and his men observed them and it's in his log. So did Alex. The Great. They saw silver shields overhead, etc.
Cootabux 3 years ago
i heard that humans actually made them millions of years ago... no evidence on that whatsoever but just putting it out there
n8iveidiot13 3 years ago
sounds like a peyote flashback :P
thegr8tbigmouth 3 years ago
If your story is accurate, *EVERY* driver on that road would have seen the same thing, and there would have been a major story in the news that night...
siciliano29 3 years ago 2
This is a good point. How many other people noticed this?
zebruh 3 years ago
for all we know there was no one else there that night, but the only way of knowing is if Netwriter tells us.
fishe153 3 years ago
Traffic was very light. I did not notice anyone else stopping, but was so focused on this thing I didn't pay attention to much else. I did notice before I stopped that some cars ahead of me were slowing down and brake lights were coming on as it passed them and they passed it.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Have you reported this to Mufon? (mufon [dot] com) If not, I recommended doing so. While to date, there has been, IMHO, no convincing evidence of extraterrestrial visitors, the odds in favor of their existence certainly keeps us curious. Cheers.
39Hool 3 years ago 3
I find the whole UFO thing facinating, but I am a skeptic. I have to ask, if aliens were buzzing the earth at night, does anyone think they would have lights on them so they could be easily seen at night? Our aircraft have lights on them so other craft do not hit them. But of what use would lights be on an alien craft? For these reasons I question all night time UFO sightings.
wolfinside 3 years ago
Interesting point! I never thought about that one.
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago
Like I say, I'm keenly interested in this phenomenon, but many of the tv shows I see show people seeing objects at night with lights on them. It strikes me as strange an alien being would fly around at night that way. Unless Netwriter is pranking us, I don't doubt what he saw. It is a wierd mystery indeed. Maybe someday science will get to the bottom of all these sightings.
wolfinside 3 years ago
Light is a great camouflage. It was first used in WWII on the leading wing edges of fighter craft. It is what kept me from seeing the shape of what passed by me that night. Also for the same reason that our planes are lit to keep from crashing into each other at night, a craft light years from home on this planet with other craft flying around would want to be seen by them. This would be of supreme importance when radar does not detect you. Just my two cents on the subject. Take it or not.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Have you considered that it may be Ball Lightning?
KameWaOni 3 years ago
Considered but not likely. Read through the comments to see the discussion and additional details of the sighting not in the video.
Netwriter 3 years ago
I hope this is a parody, because positing that the aliens have no way of avoiding our slow moving aircraft other than lighting themselves in a very conspicuous manner seems quite absurd. Our own low tech stealth aircraft work just fine at night without being lit up like Christmas trees.
Also, the light as a camouflage seems weak too. It would have been more visible from above and more detectable overall. You either want to be seen or not.
choupick 3 years ago
I said take it or not. I will put you in the not list.
Netwriter 3 years ago
It just doesn't make much sense to me in light of what our own primitive tech is capable of.
choupick 3 years ago
I understand, but it does seem that many night time sightings of UFO involve lights of some type. Your skepticism is based on the assumption that they do not want to be seen/detected. That may not be the case. If they did not want to be seen/detected, with their superior technology, they would not been seen/detected at all. That is not the case it seems. BTW I do not claim what I saw was alien, I don't know what it was.
Netwriter 3 years ago
I think it is because our eyes are much more sensitive to light and motion at night. Add to that the smaller depth of field and the psychological effects of trying to judge things in the sky and there is a huge chance to miss judge natural phenomena at night. This is why WWII pilots crashed chasing balloons that were at 60,000 feet, ships fired at venus, and guys get horribly lost during night land navigation with two compasses and a map.
choupick 3 years ago
choupock
I've been in Ufology for over 20 years. While what you are talking about certainly happens, there are many cases that can't be readily discarded. Daytime sightings silimilar to Nets sighting, multiple witnesses, and especially photo and video evidence. Remember, this object came very close to Netwriter. The no noise and no aerodynamic effects (wind-wake, etc) is very common with "real" UFO phenomena.
Cootabux 3 years ago
Point taken, but an alien craft sneaking around out planet would not want to be seen. And it is not a stretch to say that if they were advanced enouph to get here, it could sense other aircraft and simply move out of the way. As far as camo goes, if the craft had no lights it would be almost impossible to see in night sky. So why have lights? Wouldn't it be more likely that this was a terestrial craft (military) they were testing?
wolfinside 3 years ago
If sneaking around is what they are trying to do, they are failing miserably. In fact the number of UFO reports are climbing each year. Gradual revelation seems to be a more likely plan.
The chance that a military air craft that appears as a 25' sphere of brilliant light seems very unlikely, don't you think? What would be its purpose? Wouldn't a secret test aircraft fly with no lights and somewhere near a military air base? I don't know what it was or where it came from and may never.
Netwriter 3 years ago
It is weird for sure, but lets remember, there were tons of reports of "alien space crafts" doing things "no terestrial craft" could do several years ago and then the US air force revealed the stealth bomber and the stealth fighter and people realized what they had been witnessing were those odd looking craft. The origional guy who say strange craft (from his small plane) "skipping like saucers" (a reporter coined the term "flying saucers") was probably seeing the Air force's (at the time)
wolfinside 3 years ago
secret "flying wing" fighters flying in formation. They also had a giant flying wing bomber at the same time. Who knows what the air force is testing now. And they would indeed need running lights etc. Alien spacecraft would not I think. (especially considering how they are reported to fly, very fast etc)
wolfinside 3 years ago
Many UFO are reported to hover or fly very slowly also. Just as the one I observed did.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Were not these reports made near area 51 and in desert areas? What was reported over Washington state as the original flying saucers have not been determined to be air force planes.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Actually they were testing the stealth planes in a couple different air bases, not just area 51 and people who reported them as alien space craft later came back and admited what they had seen were stealth planes.
wolfinside 3 years ago
If they were reported as UFO, at the time that is just what they were. Since they were secret the public was not aware of them they were unidentified flying objects. The military finally identified them.
If in a few years the military makes known that it has 25' flying sphere that lights up and flies 5 mph, my quandary will end, and what I saw will no longer be a UFO.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Exactly. I don't doubt your sighting, I just think we need to keep an open mind and not decide what it is (or is not) based on scant evidence. My only wish is that what you saw had crashed by the highway and you (and others) could have examened it, and who (or what) was flying it. I think that would be the coolest thing in the world.
wolfinside 3 years ago
Net..
I agree. In Mexico, they are aparently everywhere. They say you can see them almost every night...and day. Of course, the overwhelming majority of the paople there are Indian, and don't freak out everytime they see a UFO. It's part of their culture (and our culture here), ancient and present. Evidentily the Mexican military feels the same way. they simply don't mess with them, as if they could anyway, but I'm sure the prevailing wisdom there says "show no hostility towards them." Smart!
Cootabux 3 years ago
Yesterday someone told me about "Project Blue Beam". Holograms projected from satellites by NASSA.
I don't know if there is any thing to it.
Just thought you may be interested.
egillelan 3 years ago
wow same thing happened to me. 1 night a UFO came out of the sky and jump started my Datsun.
strop001 3 years ago
Wow , interesting story, not at all what i was expecting from you netwriter. I thought for sure this would be a joke in the end. Especially when you said kentucky. I live in the tri-state where KY/OH/WV border and theres always some crazy person around here to make us look like wierdo's ;).
In any event nice story, I hope someday i can expeience something i can't explain it would make life more interesting. Unfortunately so far i've been able to explain everything in my life :(.
bye-e!
lordtalon69 3 years ago
Is this for real? Although I have to say, I lived in southern Indiana (New Albany area) for a number of years and saw some strange things. (Things that I have never again seen since moving down to North Carolina.) Do you think it could have been something from Wright Patterson AFB? Just a thought.
fizzybgood 3 years ago
This was not a UFO, it's obvious that it was jesus. He's come back!!! :)
RosieDesire 3 years ago
I think you might be on to something. I didn't hear any trumpets or angels singing though.
Netwriter 3 years ago
Then it's safe to assume the horsemen are silent. So now we have to be EXTRA careful. :)
RosieDesire 3 years ago
Rosie
I've heard tell that he drives one.
Cootabux 3 years ago
Now I'm jealous too ;)
RosieDesire 3 years ago
It's possible you were miss-judging distances due to the brightness of the light. A US battle ship fired AA guns at Venus thinking it was an attacking aircraft. A small turbine helicopter with it's search light on could easily seem noiseless at the right altitude, yet still have a very bright search light that overwhelmed everything.
The shooting star could have been just that. A fireball that broke apart.
A series of unlikely coincidences that added to the experience.
Just some guesses.
choupick 3 years ago
Skeptics always find it necessary to change the parameters of a sighting in order to explain it. They take out aspects of a sighting to rationalize it, because they KNOW that the event AS DESCRIBED was unexplainable by conventional means. It was LIGHTING THE ROAD BENEATH IT....IT MOVED AROUND THE CAR. Do the math, partner.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
Wow, it lit the road, like a high power krypton search light. It was quiet, like a small turbine helicopter would be flying at a higher altitude than assumed or in an acoustic dead zone. If it were lower it might have had a circle or static electricity around the rotors that looks quite spooky. I know because I see crap like this all the time working with helicopters.
choupick 3 years ago
Please forgive me for not assuming right off the bat that aliens flew trillions of miles to shine a light on some stranger on a road. Even the author doesn't attribute anything magic to the event, he only states that he doesn't know what it could have been. Throughout history, time and time again we see humans being fooled by natural events. It is far more likely to have an ordinary explanation than not. Don't get mad at me because I'm not a gullible shmuck like you.
choupick 3 years ago
Again, we see a skeptic make huge leaps of logic while changing the characteristics of a sighting. Look at the hoops you have to jump through to explain what the Vietnam vet saw. You truly are insulting his intelligence, and you still can't help but change the description to account for the event. Your logic is weak and easily outmanuevered. If a helicopter is close enough to light up the road, you'd hear it. Spooky looking static on the rotors? Please.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
I didn't dictate what he saw, I was merely putting forth natural explanations. This is what the entire scientific method is based on. Your information regarding helicopters is wrong. I too am a combat vet and I have worked with helis. You can indeed light up a road from quite a high altitude where a small modern heli might not be heard.
The problem here is you start off wanting a magical, improbable explanation, therefore you will always miss any natural explanation.
choupick 3 years ago
No matter what crazy explanation I offer, it is still a billion times more likely than an interstellar traveler doing a low level pass with full lights on. A flying fish with a flashlight stuck in his mouth is a million times more likely than some other worldly being zipping around our tiny back woods planet trying to blind some bipedal apes with a bright light. On a list of things that can cause the human sensory system to detect a quiet bright moving light, alien joy riders are last.
choupick 3 years ago
First, you're not helping your case by admitting your explanations are crazy. Second, as you've likely never left the planet yourself, you do not know in the slightest what is "more likely". Where are your statistics to back up that statement?
Third, IF there are aliens visiting, we do not know what they are "trying" to do. Arrogance also assumes whatever is going on has to do with us in some way. For all we know the glow is a byproduct of a propulsion system.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
In any case, you have brought up aliens more than once, and I only bring up that subject because you have. As DESCRIBED, this object cannot be explained by conventional means. Note at the end how you again try to minimalize the scope of the event with your description of a mere "quiet bright moving light".
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
A reader who hadn't seen the above video might conclude the witness had seen some starlike object moving off in the distance when we know this is not the case. Do you want to keep going? I've got more.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
By the way, where does anyone state they are "wanting a magical, improbable explanation"? I don't recall writing that nor seeing it in the video. A common mistake you guys make without thinking it through, is that because a sighting can't be explained by conventional means, the "vacuum" of an explanation implies an extraterrestrial component. Neither I nor the witness have implied any such thing, but your knee-jerk reaction is to explain why it's not aliens. Doesn't that strike you as odd?
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
Well, you have to be implying something crazy because in my initial post I was merely positing some possible causes. My comments were intended for netwriter. YOU came in and started calling names, questioning my logic, and generally pouting. If you threw that stupid tantrum to say "no one knows" then you are an idiot, because I made no such assertions to having any knowledge of the incident.
choupick 3 years ago
You can't play both sides. You act like skeptics are ignorant ass hats then say your position is one of skepticism. Retard.
choupick 3 years ago
(1)No, what I'm implying is that the explanations you've posited don't match the sighting. Very simple. (2)What name did I call you? I've kept it polite. You've called me an idiot and a retard. (3) You still haven't offered your statistics on how flashlight carrying flying fish are more likely than an alien spacecraft. (4) I'm also waiting to hear who said they were looking for a "magical" explanation, or indeed who said they were looking for one at all? I'm merely saying....
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
....your explanations don't fit the sighting. People just like you thought the world was flat, and that the human body would disintigrate if pushed beyond 70mph. Fortunately people like you are always left behind when new and exciting discoveries are made (and never BY people like you, I might add. Interstellar space travel was once considered impossible. Now, Einstine's theory that light speed can't be breached is under direct assault by physicists who don't take "impossible" for an answer.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
"My comments were intended for netwriter" Now you're whining that your comments were intended for the witness, the implication being no one else has a right to respond to you. Waaaaah! He seems like a straight-up guy and I feel like defending him. Too frikkin bad!
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
I think he is a straight up guy too. You weren't defending him because I wasn't attacking him. You were simply being a condescending credulous dick. Go back and read my initial post. The only people here I question are you and that other kook.
choupick 3 years ago
aerodynamic1
Very well put.
I see "debunker" mentality all the time. After they put forth their "must-be-natural" explanation, they usually say something to show that they have their mind made up regardless of the evidence.
He should look into all of the UFO incursions over Nuclear Weapon bases and cases where they shut down missles in their silos. Two of the officers involved in that case (now retired) have gone public. The surface guards saw 2 large disks hovering.
Natural Phenomena?
Cootabux 3 years ago
You should provide actual evidence for your "cases" and show that the best possible answer is whatever you think they are. People have a debunker mentality because there is no evidence. Do you believe that demons are impregnating women, that witches are destroying crops, or that unicorns exist? Why not, and what evidence so you have for UFO's that is better than the religious hypothesis of a flying virgin mary.
choupick 3 years ago
choupick
Evidence is exactly my point. UFO Phen. isn't a religion, it isn't something you have to have faith to believe exists. There is "overwhelming" evidence, but you have to look at it. I know you haven't because you start with a closed mind to even consider the evidence because you obvioulsy think that it can't possibly be real because it doesn't fit into your preconceived notion of how the world is.
My present interest is in UFOs encounters in our space program. There's a wealth of evid.
Cootabux 3 years ago
"it isn't something you have to have faith to believe exists."
Not faith, wishful thinking. Believing in god takes "faith" seeing the virgin Mary dance around the sun takes wishful thinking. Believing it happened because a bunch of people say it did is not overwhelming evidence. Your UFO stuff is no different than the virgin Mary sightings. Actually, more people have seen the virgin Mary flying than any UFO.
choupick 3 years ago
chou...
Last comment.
I'm not talking about wishful thinking, and a "bunch" of people. I'm talking about military personell, Astrinauts, intelligence people, SAC pilots, missle launch commanders, etc, "combined" with quality video/photo evid. with lannding trace cases, radar...but why go on. You are not interested in the evidence. If you are, then just start digging, you find it.
Done.
Cootabux 3 years ago
The plural of anecdote is not evidence. Do you have anything other than stories of strange sightings? Funny how I have taken thousands of astro-photographs and not one alien shows up. I have satellites, shuttles, space stations, meteors, and airplanes on film, but no alien craft. Yet some people have them breaking into their trailer or shining million candle power lights at them.
choupick 3 years ago
chou..
There is a lot of NASA footage, which they now go to a great degree of trouble to hide and distort. I myself have about 10 DVDs of nothing but NASA Shuttle footage of some extraordinary phenomena..and I don't think it's us.
BTW, there is a video clip right here on youtube about the AF Academy Physics manual with the chapter on UFOs.
Cootabux 3 years ago
I am good friends with some NASA scientist and was married to an air force pilot. We laughed at ET believers all the time. I guess they "really" know, but they aren't letting me in on it.
Remember that just because we can't explain something on film or in a photo, doesn't mean it supports your position. This is the same faulty thinking creationist use. You have to have positive evidence. Blurs, sparkles, and other crap is only evidence for other crap existing, not interstellar travelers.
choupick 3 years ago
chou...
To answer your last question...I'm an Arheist.
Cootabux 3 years ago
I didn't ask if you were a believer in Yahweh. I was asking what evidence do you have that all the UFO sightings aren't the virgin mary flying around. Countless Catholics see the virgin mary in all manner of places including hovering in the sky and dancing around the sun. They have the same bad photos and the same testimony from sometimes thousands of people. What is more likely that there are both ETs and magical virgins flying around, just one and the others are fooled, or neither?
choupick 3 years ago
No evidence? Astronauts with PHDs have come forward to say there is indeed evidence. Radar/visual sightings, multiple witness cases, ground trace cases. Don't say "no evidence", say "not enough evidence for ME." Big difference between the two.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
What you're saying is that you're more qualified than pilots, police officers, scientists, and astronauts to determine what's "evidence".
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
Anecdotes are not evidence, no matter how many you assemble. Anecdotal evidence is often wrong and is considered highly unreliable in a court of law. How many people who were "witnessed" committing a crime have been set free by actual empirical evidence? Blurry photos, bad video, stories from pilots, and other inconclusive data is not evidence. If you have photos, video footage, or telemetry from a radar for UFO's of extraterrestrial origin please put it forward.
choupick 3 years ago
Otherwise your tales are no different than the thousands of bigfoot sightings, lochness monster sightings, crop circles, and other made up crap, no matter who says it. History is full of this garbage. Before UFO's it was demons and angles flying around raping women and handing down divine instructions. Just because you accept such magical thinking doesn't make it count. Science was developed specifically to ensure people didn't think like you do.
choupick 3 years ago
Anecdotes. Hmmm. I can't believ I let this get past me, I must be getting old. You said "If it were lower it might have had a circle or static electricity around the rotors that looks quite spooky. I know because I see crap like this all the time working with helicopters". Really? if I didn't know better, I'd say that's an anecdote! We'd like to see some documentation for the existence of that phenomenon please. Your video? Photos?
Sounds a lot like the other claims you've...
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
...made. You claimed I called you a name, a claim you can't back up. You claim to know our motivations in regards to the subject with no evidence. You claim to have statistics which prove a flying, flashlight-eqipped fish is a more likely explanation of this UFO sighting than extraterrestrials, despite the fact that you weren't there and have never been to another planet. As you have begun to feel the trap I've set for you you have become more angry and lashed out, calling into question your own
aerodynamic1 3 years ago
mental state and debate abilities. I can expect more I'm sure, since you can't remain civil. I don't care what the truth is here. Some people are believers no matter what, some are skeptical no matter what. Either position is useless. When an explanation fits a sighting, I'm all for it. When something's not easily explained, I want the remaining questions answered, not dismissed out of hand. I don't give thought to the implications of an answer because it pollutes
the logical thought process.
aerodynamic1 3 years ago