when they say learn from those who know what they are talking about do they have the same experiences as those FMA masters whose had knife attack experiences even as teenagers.Knife attacks, especially in some areas in the Philippines are common occurences so a lot of their techniques were developed from actual experiences fighting someone with a knife whether empty hand or knife against knife.There's never guarantee but your chances increases if you train what's proven by those who lived it.
The reality is that you will probably die if your attacker wants you dead, whatever you do. Fortunately, most attackers don't stick around long enough to finish off their victims.
What the guy did when he attacked "naturally" with the knife was just like when I was attacked by a gangster for telling him to get off of my father's property.
guy is promoting puts it right in your face. aGAIN I FEEL THIS IS COMMANDO type training for people who are bodyguard or law enforcement type, Traditional Martial Artist the way it is taught now is more for the common folks, remember Karate was develop in war, remember a lot of these MMA Sylist where TMA first master there perspective arts and made counters to all the advance TMA moves and call that shit a style, so much for innovation, the same thing that was happen thousand of years.
guy is promoting puts it right in your face. aGAIN I FEEL THIS IS COMMANDO type training for people who are bodyguard or law enforcement type, Traditional Martial Artist the way it is taught now is more for the common folks, remember Karate was develop in war, remember a lot of these MMA Sylist where TMA first master there perspective arts and made counters to all the advance TMA moves and call that shit a style, so much for innovation, the same thing that was happen thousand of years
guy is promoting puts it right in your face. aGAIN I FEEL THIS IS COMMANDO type training for people who are bodyguard or law enforcement type, Traditional Martial Artist the way it is taught now is more for the common folks, remember Karate was develop in war, remember a lot of these MMA Sylist where TMA first master there perspective arts and made counters to all the advance TMA moves and call that shit a style, so much for innovation, the same thing that was happen thousand of years again
of ttraining in Karate i started to learn and study JKD what a martail art/life altering experience. The instructors where Anti-Karate all the way, doe i he revaeal he use to study goju himself,, he change my prespective as a martial artist ut i realize after i trained with him for some time that everything he was teaching doe efftective in real time was already in my system of martial science. The diffeerence is Karate will milk the information to you and Flippino arts and training like this
thye where try and defend against him, but lets try it on the other side of the coin could he teach children in that matter and would they stay for years of that type of training. In essence i believe the way he is teaching the student would have needed to had train in the martial arts already in order to grass he teaching regular joes a lot of the time will not stick around for that treatment. I have studied the Traditional Martial Art since i was a kid and i took some time off after 15
when they where learning Jujustu and bring ing it into the Army. What he says is true in the realistic sense of "Yes" the "attacker" is not is not going to come at you in a traditional mattter but there is a reason for the methds behind the traditional matter of teaching self defense in comparison to how this man was teaching . In my opinion that was bodyguard or commando training stuff for if you going right into combat, you said that most Traditional Martial Art Instructor would be stab if
THis guy is funny at the same time he is right in his own way. He seems to forget that traditional Martial Art waas born in war, most of the traditional martial arts as well. The founder of Akido from my understanding was a top killer for the Army how can TM not be effective when it has been battle tested for century when you could not use a punk ass gun to eliminate your enemy from a distance you hadd to get up on the man a lot of the time, i never seen these same white boys complaining
The web video has a few traditional techniques, which are more of a bit of fun than anything useful. The boy was demonstrating techniques from a silly martial art that he had once believed in (the point of the video is realism vs tradition, Or static complex techniques vs adaptable concepts). He honestly used to think stuff like this worked, until he saw it happen in reality. The boy had also been the best student in the martial art that taught these techniques and was better than the instructor
It was just the martial art itself wasn't very good. Since then, thankfully he does MMA and teaches SCS. Which are not only a lot more fun, but also a lot more fluid and adaptable!
That boy doesn't know how to apply the traditional techniques correctly. Also the attacks are not realistic. The attachers try protect the knife rather stab. This doesn't happen in the real world.
although its suicidal to disarm an assailant whilst he is attacking, it is entirely possible to use techniques when he is telling you to do somthing like give him your wallet. he is not as alert as when he is fighting.
I agree, most traditional systems do train unrealistic, that is not the flaw of the system, just the instructor. I see some bad Reality based SD people teaching techniques that place the participant in much more danger than what the Tradiditonal method would. Case in point, see angelajudochop-brutal type prison attack against a knife?? something like that. This guy is Reality based, no bad system, only bad teachers. Nothing to do with this guy, just giving example of bad RBSD.
@ptrodrigu I think its a little of both to be honest but I see your point. I've seen really good instructors, that simply believe in systems that aren't realistic. As you say though, even if its RBSD, if the instructor is bad then it amounts to the exact same. Martial arts systems tend to be like religions with their dogmas and beliefs- the truth needs to be understood by the individual through experience. When it comes to fighting, humans all fight the same way really... Like smarter animals
@ptrodrigu Lol watched some of their videos... instructor is cool, but a little misguided. The most practical and effective form of self protection is not killing and defending at all costs- Its avoiding physical confrontations through using awareness and psychology. Well before physical technique. In all honesty the guy I most respect in this field (and he hasn't paid me to say this!) Is Richard Dimitri and Senshido. Look em both up, it's refreshingly honest, and is very smart.
This demonstration is flawed. The attacker saw the techniques that were going to be used and therefore had time to think of the most far-off attacks from those used in the techniques. Also, the defender was trying to pull off a specific technique instead of using that which was most suited to the attack. In Aikido, the goal is to neutralize the attacker's resistance in whatever way possible, not pull off pitch-perfect techniques. Martial arts is like a toolbox. You pick the RIGHT tool.
@Janotheknight This is very true, the attacker did see the techniques... But to be balanced, the defender knew the attack type too... According to Aikido, or some similar systems, the best thing to do is block and wrist lock the attackers knife hand, however its is very hard to do something like that, that is very co-ordinated. Aikido has some good ideas, but on the whole, isn't particularly adaptable if you try to apply it without using your own adaptations or common sense
@kinjo79 Thanks for commenting. You're right, Aikido techniques need extreme attention to detail and coordination, which is why Aikido requires a long time of dedicated training. I think the advantage though is that once you become good enough to use Aikido techniques they will disarm your opponent immediately, unlike other systems which admittedly are easier to learn and more practical as a beginner, but get less accomplished with each move. E.g. systems that advocate striking the attacker.
@kinjo79 "According to Aikido, or some similar systems, the best thing to do is block and wrist lock". This statement is wrong. There is no blocking in aikido and it's not the goal to lock the arm/wrist - instead you go for the center to control. Keep the flow at block/fight the attacker.
"Aikido has some good ideas" - the founder of that martial art was actually a badass and killed a lot of people before he became so peaceful. It's never the martial art that fails but the person.
te technique that you showed against kife defnce was good and write according to that particular angle of attack but the angl of attack on the last one was different so the technique would not be appropriate. its like preparing for a punch in the head and then getting kicked in te groin point being there are more than one way of preparing for a knife defence you showed only one and the attack did not warrent that defence so to me this is just propaganda
@kbuds1 the only time these defences work, is up against an opponent that deliberately complies with the technique- like aikido practitioners that fall down so easily...:D
aikidoka do fall down easily because if they dont hey get hurt and these knife defences do work take it from somone who knows now next time you post a video trying to discredit a certain tecknique make sure you dont pull the old bait and switch such as your last video and i highly doubt you know al the experts and teir personal history of cambat now these techniques would not be taught to speial forces and swat teams around the WORLD if they did not wrk maybe u just did not practice them enough
@kbuds1 They fall down because they are trained to fall... I know, i did it for years in glasgow. So have you ever used Aikido in a street fight against a knife? I smell bullshit. "combat" which isn't a hard word to spell, is nothing like Aikido, which is why no special forces are taught it at all. Neither are SWAT teams, because they all use firearms. God knows how many so called masters claim to teach SAS etc, and its all bullshit. None of them have, they just claim to.
first off u r wrong it is taught minneapolis swat so u can quit making shit up about that its also taught to japans special police and im 100% correct on that u cant prove me wrong my sensei is swat and it is taught and he is accredited from japan and i also study under the highest ranking dan in minnesota. and they are traind to fall and u of al peaple should know if they dont what happends When you make a claim like u r knowing full well that u cant prove it then ur just talking shit
@kbuds1 it isn't taught to minneapolis SWAT, that is complete bullshit, and as for tokyo riot police- they are taught a different system of aikido from the widely available style. You'd expect the Japanese to do one of their arts- yet the vast majority of Japanese have also been trained in rudimentary Jujitsu which is far superior. Dan grades and blackbelts mean sweet fuck all in a competitive or street fight and i highly doubt your sensei is swat. Does he even know you are telling youtube?
first off how u gonna tell me about about my sensei i know he is swat i know he trains swt operators in aikido so there is no bullshit coming from me and now u confess that u are some kind of leading expert on all martial arts..are you kidding me and i thought you said aikido wasnt taught to police do you even realize that you just contradicted urself cmon man u talk about things that u say u know but the more you talk the more u xpose urself as a contradicting moron and i told u im 100% right
also im not making this personal im just sayin that u r making claims that r false such as the comment about not training swat in aikido cuz man you act like you know every master of every art when it comes to knife defence...dud give it up ur hater just admitt it.
@kbuds1 i don't know every master, but i do know the real ones don't brag about it, they don't need belts, and if they are swat or special forces they don't shout it out over youtube.
i never said i was swat,can u read and retain the info how many real masters do you know..i want names. now im not braging at all im gonna force you to prove me wrong because so far im rite all yo can do is say im full of shit but that dosnt make for a good argument or rebuttle i would say that rhettoric dosnt work and you will lose evry time u seem to have a negative outlook onmartial arts did you get beat up in class alot or what and im not trying to insult you
@kbuds1 actually there are a few people i'd recommend. and none of them do aikido or traditional martial arts. Experience is worth a shit load more than prancing about in black skirts.
in reality there is NO knife defence.. If the attacker wants you dead...they will kill you, none of the above will work. They won't show you the knife and give you a big distance. In REALITY they will stab you out of the blue and go....you probably won't even have a clue you've been stabbed....JUST HAVE GOOD STREET AWARENESS
Yeah either quick fix, or overly complicated that take years to master- and still don't work! The other thing is, none of these masters has ever had a knife pulled on them or watched video footage or someone getting repeatedly stabbed or sneak attacked. I used to do the traditional stuff and was actually sucked into believing i could handle a knife attack easily in reality. Reality proved otherwise, and mostly luck is why my stomach is still intact
how u gonna say there is no knife defence there is most definately such thing as knife defence just because someone wants to stab or kill me dosent mean they will if a person is well trained and can implement the technique it will without a doubt work
You're very disillusioned mate... and it will probably end up getting you hurt. i've trained with some of the best guys in the world who teach FMA knife fighting. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with learning a few blocks, but 90% of time you will NEVER SEE the knife, you WON'T even know you have been stabbed. sorry mate but in reality people are sneaky fucks and will sneak up and stab/slash you and be gone... I've seen it done.... stick to good Street awareness.
yo man are talking bout a hit or someone robbing you cuz iv had knives pulled on me andiseen it comming so ur not at all accurate in ur statement and you sholdnt be so negative it seemes as if ur saying dont defend urself just run , run from everything somtimes u cant run and u must stand and fight its better to even know a lil than nothing and ur saying dont learn just run
I'll make it easy for you... martial arts is like car insurance....you try everything in your power to avoid a crash so you don't have to claim on it.
I am very confident I could handle an attacker even have a slim chance against VISIBLE knife attacker. would i run if i had the chance? YES. Unfortunately the law doesn't work for the innocent people, Plus the would be attacker might come from a family of nutters, I don't want to be always watching over my shoulder.... cont...
Well actually the 1st move demonstrated is a form of the Aikido move Shiho-nage. A move which, in the dojo i attended at least, was taught as a knife defense. This unfortunately, as i have come to learn, isn't an effective defense against a realistic knife attack, as the average joe on the street will not come at you in the same way as is taught in class. Don't get me wrong, the technique itself it lovely, fluid and looks great but in a knife attack it will probably get you killed!
It wasn't exactly trad aikido (so don't worry) but that doesn't work either i'm afraid. There is no ability to control when an attacker goes wild with a knife. (missed from video is low line stab defence using ad hoc aikido tech...)
do you understand what line of attack means were you only taught one way of knife defence there are many ways you should have stayed in class and do you know these masters you knw for a fact they have never had a knife pulled on them...i think not
@kbuds1 If i went into all the different defences, then this video would be hours long. The fact is, none of them work against a committed attack. When a person is constantly shanking its very very hard to just grab their hand, and it is impossible or at least very highly unlikely you'll manage a lock or throw, even if you've trained for years (like i did). And i know none of these masters have had a knife pulled on them because they clearly have no idea what reality is, and because they admit
hey if you knew anything about aikido knife defence you never would have said "when a person is shanking its very hard to just grab their hand" you dont grab their hand whn the attacker is flaling their knife and show me an aikido master which would be like 10 dan who would say that i dont think any masters would say ..o ya my art dosnt work ive ony done it for umpteen years and im a complete fraud... cuz thats the equivelent of what ur saying....dude ur propagandist and u sir r the bullshitter
@kbuds1 Of course they wouldn't admit it, no one wants to believe that their art doesn't stand up to reality- even if it is true. Most 10th dans think they are invincible, and would be proven wrong... except they never compete in fighting and certainly never have had a knife pulled on them. If you only train with and against people from your own art... how can you really know it works?
like i said iwant names of masters who admit becase you sir do not tell the truth .and ill admit a person can be srprise attacked thats a given but what about when u see it coming and ur faster and skilled as aposed to no skill ur just faster u can run but thats it and it will catch up toyou and then what u martial arts drop out and is that sstatement correct or did u lieabout dropping out of aikido or whatever art u were in
@kbuds1 I find it hysterically ironic that the guy who is 33 and can't even spell the simplest of words like "combat" is calling me a moron. I don't expect people to take anything i say at face value, i'm a believer in finding out for yourself. Get a knife and attack your master at full speed stabbing randomly and aggressively, and i guarantee his white pjammas will be red:P As for what i do, you can check my website or watch my mma fights. What proof do you have the your master is SWAT?:)
when they say learn from those who know what they are talking about do they have the same experiences as those FMA masters whose had knife attack experiences even as teenagers.Knife attacks, especially in some areas in the Philippines are common occurences so a lot of their techniques were developed from actual experiences fighting someone with a knife whether empty hand or knife against knife.There's never guarantee but your chances increases if you train what's proven by those who lived it.
SalCruz450 1 week ago
The reality is that you will probably die if your attacker wants you dead, whatever you do. Fortunately, most attackers don't stick around long enough to finish off their victims.
Theriomalstrom 1 month ago
What the guy did when he attacked "naturally" with the knife was just like when I was attacked by a gangster for telling him to get off of my father's property.
xhunterxwolfx 2 months ago
No martial art is perfect. when it comes to fighting, it is not the art but the person practicing it.
daboodeef179 3 months ago
Dog Brothers frequently train with traditional ma techniques and make them work.
hec182001 4 months ago
chi sono sti buffoni??
sukkaproduction 4 months ago
Sorry about that last part.
thugnast 4 months ago
guy is promoting puts it right in your face. aGAIN I FEEL THIS IS COMMANDO type training for people who are bodyguard or law enforcement type, Traditional Martial Artist the way it is taught now is more for the common folks, remember Karate was develop in war, remember a lot of these MMA Sylist where TMA first master there perspective arts and made counters to all the advance TMA moves and call that shit a style, so much for innovation, the same thing that was happen thousand of years.
thugnast 4 months ago
guy is promoting puts it right in your face. aGAIN I FEEL THIS IS COMMANDO type training for people who are bodyguard or law enforcement type, Traditional Martial Artist the way it is taught now is more for the common folks, remember Karate was develop in war, remember a lot of these MMA Sylist where TMA first master there perspective arts and made counters to all the advance TMA moves and call that shit a style, so much for innovation, the same thing that was happen thousand of years
thugnast 4 months ago
guy is promoting puts it right in your face. aGAIN I FEEL THIS IS COMMANDO type training for people who are bodyguard or law enforcement type, Traditional Martial Artist the way it is taught now is more for the common folks, remember Karate was develop in war, remember a lot of these MMA Sylist where TMA first master there perspective arts and made counters to all the advance TMA moves and call that shit a style, so much for innovation, the same thing that was happen thousand of years again
thugnast 4 months ago
of ttraining in Karate i started to learn and study JKD what a martail art/life altering experience. The instructors where Anti-Karate all the way, doe i he revaeal he use to study goju himself,, he change my prespective as a martial artist ut i realize after i trained with him for some time that everything he was teaching doe efftective in real time was already in my system of martial science. The diffeerence is Karate will milk the information to you and Flippino arts and training like this
thugnast 4 months ago
thye where try and defend against him, but lets try it on the other side of the coin could he teach children in that matter and would they stay for years of that type of training. In essence i believe the way he is teaching the student would have needed to had train in the martial arts already in order to grass he teaching regular joes a lot of the time will not stick around for that treatment. I have studied the Traditional Martial Art since i was a kid and i took some time off after 15
thugnast 4 months ago
when they where learning Jujustu and bring ing it into the Army. What he says is true in the realistic sense of "Yes" the "attacker" is not is not going to come at you in a traditional mattter but there is a reason for the methds behind the traditional matter of teaching self defense in comparison to how this man was teaching . In my opinion that was bodyguard or commando training stuff for if you going right into combat, you said that most Traditional Martial Art Instructor would be stab if
thugnast 4 months ago
THis guy is funny at the same time he is right in his own way. He seems to forget that traditional Martial Art waas born in war, most of the traditional martial arts as well. The founder of Akido from my understanding was a top killer for the Army how can TM not be effective when it has been battle tested for century when you could not use a punk ass gun to eliminate your enemy from a distance you hadd to get up on the man a lot of the time, i never seen these same white boys complaining
thugnast 4 months ago
The web video has a few traditional techniques, which are more of a bit of fun than anything useful. The boy was demonstrating techniques from a silly martial art that he had once believed in (the point of the video is realism vs tradition, Or static complex techniques vs adaptable concepts). He honestly used to think stuff like this worked, until he saw it happen in reality. The boy had also been the best student in the martial art that taught these techniques and was better than the instructor
kinjo79 8 months ago
It was just the martial art itself wasn't very good. Since then, thankfully he does MMA and teaches SCS. Which are not only a lot more fun, but also a lot more fluid and adaptable!
kinjo79 8 months ago
Anyway in his website the video shows traditional techniques. (Not correctly executed offcourse.)
Nuthor 8 months ago
That boy doesn't know how to apply the traditional techniques correctly. Also the attacks are not realistic. The attachers try protect the knife rather stab. This doesn't happen in the real world.
Nuthor 8 months ago
although its suicidal to disarm an assailant whilst he is attacking, it is entirely possible to use techniques when he is telling you to do somthing like give him your wallet. he is not as alert as when he is fighting.
SNIVEROUS 9 months ago
I agree, most traditional systems do train unrealistic, that is not the flaw of the system, just the instructor. I see some bad Reality based SD people teaching techniques that place the participant in much more danger than what the Tradiditonal method would. Case in point, see angelajudochop-brutal type prison attack against a knife?? something like that. This guy is Reality based, no bad system, only bad teachers. Nothing to do with this guy, just giving example of bad RBSD.
ptrodrigu 1 year ago
@ptrodrigu I think its a little of both to be honest but I see your point. I've seen really good instructors, that simply believe in systems that aren't realistic. As you say though, even if its RBSD, if the instructor is bad then it amounts to the exact same. Martial arts systems tend to be like religions with their dogmas and beliefs- the truth needs to be understood by the individual through experience. When it comes to fighting, humans all fight the same way really... Like smarter animals
kinjo79 1 year ago
@ptrodrigu Lol watched some of their videos... instructor is cool, but a little misguided. The most practical and effective form of self protection is not killing and defending at all costs- Its avoiding physical confrontations through using awareness and psychology. Well before physical technique. In all honesty the guy I most respect in this field (and he hasn't paid me to say this!) Is Richard Dimitri and Senshido. Look em both up, it's refreshingly honest, and is very smart.
kinjo79 1 year ago
@janotheknight THANK YOU!
Satsujintekisuito 1 year ago
This demonstration is flawed. The attacker saw the techniques that were going to be used and therefore had time to think of the most far-off attacks from those used in the techniques. Also, the defender was trying to pull off a specific technique instead of using that which was most suited to the attack. In Aikido, the goal is to neutralize the attacker's resistance in whatever way possible, not pull off pitch-perfect techniques. Martial arts is like a toolbox. You pick the RIGHT tool.
Janotheknight 1 year ago
@Janotheknight This is very true, the attacker did see the techniques... But to be balanced, the defender knew the attack type too... According to Aikido, or some similar systems, the best thing to do is block and wrist lock the attackers knife hand, however its is very hard to do something like that, that is very co-ordinated. Aikido has some good ideas, but on the whole, isn't particularly adaptable if you try to apply it without using your own adaptations or common sense
kinjo79 1 year ago
@kinjo79 Thanks for commenting. You're right, Aikido techniques need extreme attention to detail and coordination, which is why Aikido requires a long time of dedicated training. I think the advantage though is that once you become good enough to use Aikido techniques they will disarm your opponent immediately, unlike other systems which admittedly are easier to learn and more practical as a beginner, but get less accomplished with each move. E.g. systems that advocate striking the attacker.
Janotheknight 1 year ago
@kinjo79 "According to Aikido, or some similar systems, the best thing to do is block and wrist lock". This statement is wrong. There is no blocking in aikido and it's not the goal to lock the arm/wrist - instead you go for the center to control. Keep the flow at block/fight the attacker.
"Aikido has some good ideas" - the founder of that martial art was actually a badass and killed a lot of people before he became so peaceful. It's never the martial art that fails but the person.
Axl18289 1 month ago
te technique that you showed against kife defnce was good and write according to that particular angle of attack but the angl of attack on the last one was different so the technique would not be appropriate. its like preparing for a punch in the head and then getting kicked in te groin point being there are more than one way of preparing for a knife defence you showed only one and the attack did not warrent that defence so to me this is just propaganda
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 the only time these defences work, is up against an opponent that deliberately complies with the technique- like aikido practitioners that fall down so easily...:D
kinjo79 2 years ago
aikidoka do fall down easily because if they dont hey get hurt and these knife defences do work take it from somone who knows now next time you post a video trying to discredit a certain tecknique make sure you dont pull the old bait and switch such as your last video and i highly doubt you know al the experts and teir personal history of cambat now these techniques would not be taught to speial forces and swat teams around the WORLD if they did not wrk maybe u just did not practice them enough
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 They fall down because they are trained to fall... I know, i did it for years in glasgow. So have you ever used Aikido in a street fight against a knife? I smell bullshit. "combat" which isn't a hard word to spell, is nothing like Aikido, which is why no special forces are taught it at all. Neither are SWAT teams, because they all use firearms. God knows how many so called masters claim to teach SAS etc, and its all bullshit. None of them have, they just claim to.
kinjo79 2 years ago
first off u r wrong it is taught minneapolis swat so u can quit making shit up about that its also taught to japans special police and im 100% correct on that u cant prove me wrong my sensei is swat and it is taught and he is accredited from japan and i also study under the highest ranking dan in minnesota. and they are traind to fall and u of al peaple should know if they dont what happends When you make a claim like u r knowing full well that u cant prove it then ur just talking shit
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 it isn't taught to minneapolis SWAT, that is complete bullshit, and as for tokyo riot police- they are taught a different system of aikido from the widely available style. You'd expect the Japanese to do one of their arts- yet the vast majority of Japanese have also been trained in rudimentary Jujitsu which is far superior. Dan grades and blackbelts mean sweet fuck all in a competitive or street fight and i highly doubt your sensei is swat. Does he even know you are telling youtube?
kinjo79 2 years ago
first off how u gonna tell me about about my sensei i know he is swat i know he trains swt operators in aikido so there is no bullshit coming from me and now u confess that u are some kind of leading expert on all martial arts..are you kidding me and i thought you said aikido wasnt taught to police do you even realize that you just contradicted urself cmon man u talk about things that u say u know but the more you talk the more u xpose urself as a contradicting moron and i told u im 100% right
kbuds1 2 years ago
also im not making this personal im just sayin that u r making claims that r false such as the comment about not training swat in aikido cuz man you act like you know every master of every art when it comes to knife defence...dud give it up ur hater just admitt it.
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 i don't know every master, but i do know the real ones don't brag about it, they don't need belts, and if they are swat or special forces they don't shout it out over youtube.
kinjo79 2 years ago
i never said i was swat,can u read and retain the info how many real masters do you know..i want names. now im not braging at all im gonna force you to prove me wrong because so far im rite all yo can do is say im full of shit but that dosnt make for a good argument or rebuttle i would say that rhettoric dosnt work and you will lose evry time u seem to have a negative outlook onmartial arts did you get beat up in class alot or what and im not trying to insult you
kbuds1 2 years ago
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Janotheknight 1 year ago
@kbuds1 actually there are a few people i'd recommend. and none of them do aikido or traditional martial arts. Experience is worth a shit load more than prancing about in black skirts.
kinjo79 2 years ago
in reality there is NO knife defence.. If the attacker wants you dead...they will kill you, none of the above will work. They won't show you the knife and give you a big distance. In REALITY they will stab you out of the blue and go....you probably won't even have a clue you've been stabbed....JUST HAVE GOOD STREET AWARENESS
Jebus2Jebus 2 years ago
Yep, as i keep saying, stay switched on, stay alive
kinjo79 2 years ago
unfortunately too many "masters" teach quick fix knife defence, sending people away with false hope that will get them killed.
Jebus2Jebus 2 years ago
Yeah either quick fix, or overly complicated that take years to master- and still don't work! The other thing is, none of these masters has ever had a knife pulled on them or watched video footage or someone getting repeatedly stabbed or sneak attacked. I used to do the traditional stuff and was actually sucked into believing i could handle a knife attack easily in reality. Reality proved otherwise, and mostly luck is why my stomach is still intact
kinjo79 2 years ago
how u gonna say there is no knife defence there is most definately such thing as knife defence just because someone wants to stab or kill me dosent mean they will if a person is well trained and can implement the technique it will without a doubt work
kbuds1 2 years ago
You're very disillusioned mate... and it will probably end up getting you hurt. i've trained with some of the best guys in the world who teach FMA knife fighting. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with learning a few blocks, but 90% of time you will NEVER SEE the knife, you WON'T even know you have been stabbed. sorry mate but in reality people are sneaky fucks and will sneak up and stab/slash you and be gone... I've seen it done.... stick to good Street awareness.
Jebus2Jebus 2 years ago
yo man are talking bout a hit or someone robbing you cuz iv had knives pulled on me andiseen it comming so ur not at all accurate in ur statement and you sholdnt be so negative it seemes as if ur saying dont defend urself just run , run from everything somtimes u cant run and u must stand and fight its better to even know a lil than nothing and ur saying dont learn just run
kbuds1 2 years ago
I'll make it easy for you... martial arts is like car insurance....you try everything in your power to avoid a crash so you don't have to claim on it.
I am very confident I could handle an attacker even have a slim chance against VISIBLE knife attacker. would i run if i had the chance? YES. Unfortunately the law doesn't work for the innocent people, Plus the would be attacker might come from a family of nutters, I don't want to be always watching over my shoulder.... cont...
Jebus2Jebus 2 years ago
Double post sorry.
I feel your only really chance is the attacker hesitating, which most attackers do... unfortunately not all...
Move away efficiently, or get in there first. Pride compels us to do the second, intelligence tells us to do the first.
ManyMovements 2 years ago
All about the pre emptive strikes my friend, before they pull it. Else RUN!
kinjo79 2 years ago
"ok... Im pretty fucking dead"
hahaha i almost fell off my chair.
Back in aberdeen next weekend to train btw :p think ill only make the sat though :(
ManyMovements 2 years ago
nice! Well i shall see you soon hopefully! heard you are fighting in Nov...
kinjo79 2 years ago
Well actually the 1st move demonstrated is a form of the Aikido move Shiho-nage. A move which, in the dojo i attended at least, was taught as a knife defense. This unfortunately, as i have come to learn, isn't an effective defense against a realistic knife attack, as the average joe on the street will not come at you in the same way as is taught in class. Don't get me wrong, the technique itself it lovely, fluid and looks great but in a knife attack it will probably get you killed!
hotforslash 2 years ago
It wasn't exactly trad aikido (so don't worry) but that doesn't work either i'm afraid. There is no ability to control when an attacker goes wild with a knife. (missed from video is low line stab defence using ad hoc aikido tech...)
kinjo79 2 years ago
do you understand what line of attack means were you only taught one way of knife defence there are many ways you should have stayed in class and do you know these masters you knw for a fact they have never had a knife pulled on them...i think not
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 If i went into all the different defences, then this video would be hours long. The fact is, none of them work against a committed attack. When a person is constantly shanking its very very hard to just grab their hand, and it is impossible or at least very highly unlikely you'll manage a lock or throw, even if you've trained for years (like i did). And i know none of these masters have had a knife pulled on them because they clearly have no idea what reality is, and because they admit
kinjo79 2 years ago
hey if you knew anything about aikido knife defence you never would have said "when a person is shanking its very hard to just grab their hand" you dont grab their hand whn the attacker is flaling their knife and show me an aikido master which would be like 10 dan who would say that i dont think any masters would say ..o ya my art dosnt work ive ony done it for umpteen years and im a complete fraud... cuz thats the equivelent of what ur saying....dude ur propagandist and u sir r the bullshitter
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 Of course they wouldn't admit it, no one wants to believe that their art doesn't stand up to reality- even if it is true. Most 10th dans think they are invincible, and would be proven wrong... except they never compete in fighting and certainly never have had a knife pulled on them. If you only train with and against people from your own art... how can you really know it works?
kinjo79 2 years ago
like i said iwant names of masters who admit becase you sir do not tell the truth .and ill admit a person can be srprise attacked thats a given but what about when u see it coming and ur faster and skilled as aposed to no skill ur just faster u can run but thats it and it will catch up toyou and then what u martial arts drop out and is that sstatement correct or did u lieabout dropping out of aikido or whatever art u were in
kbuds1 2 years ago
@kbuds1 I find it hysterically ironic that the guy who is 33 and can't even spell the simplest of words like "combat" is calling me a moron. I don't expect people to take anything i say at face value, i'm a believer in finding out for yourself. Get a knife and attack your master at full speed stabbing randomly and aggressively, and i guarantee his white pjammas will be red:P As for what i do, you can check my website or watch my mma fights. What proof do you have the your master is SWAT?:)
kinjo79 2 years ago
So where was the Trad Aikido tech???
aikiscotsman 2 years ago
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