@latinobwoy69 There is also an issue where the masculine dance moves has been totally eroded. Pls take a look at "Havana Rakatan". See their dancers : huge differences between male and female body motions and movements. Here i dont see any difference. Pls clarify. Is latin dancing turning androgynous now?
I was checking the salsa wikipedia and suddenly a new entry been made on NY Style -> Abakua School. Did some private research and found out that Abakua is a afro-cuban fraternal organisation, a secret society.
How come none of the dance member here are cubans/ have afro roots, or have afro-cuban training from original source? On top of it the music is NY mambo, developed by puerto ricans. I check Abakua website and Frankie Martinez is definitely not afro. Can someone frm Abakua School clarify?
@AfroMalaya I didn't know that you had to be of afro decent to be able to dance afro cuban.. Furthermore,If you do more of your "private research" you will realize that Puerto Ricans are of afro decent too.
@kenimoli Stop insinuating, i am asking for clarifications. But what i am saying is there is NO link to afro-cuban dances at all but utilize the name Abakua. At least have decency to have the real Abakua dancing or heritage - e.g. pitting kukluxklan looking effigy against oppressed afros, etc. What i see here is NY 2nd Hand Mambo (not even real mambo) masquearading as Afro-cuban dance. And changing the name to Afro-Latin Funk which is is closer to musicality of the Timba than NY Jazz Mambo.
@AfroMalaya Yes you're correct it is a secret society, which has it's roots in Calabar Nigeria where I'm from! The language is a mixture of Efik,Yoruba and Spanish.I guess within this context, they are taking the dance style from Abakua, and improvising it, hence the 'Abakua School' It is quintessentially an Afro Cuban fraternity, however those non Afro Cubans may have had African Ancestors, and have passed on the tradition, so now colour is not necessarily a big deal.
Y esta asquerosidad DIOS MIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Deberian irse a coger una clasecitas pq d salsa no saben nada donde esta la gracia y la clase por favor la salsa es sabor no estan bailando reggaeton parecen locos donde esta la clave pq eso es bailar salsa CLAVE APRENDAN CLAVE 1,2,3,5,6,7 ESO ES CLAVE MIRA SI SON UNOS POTROS SALVAJES Q LA DE LA DERECHA D TU PANTALLA SE REVENTO JAJAJJAA DEBERIA DARLES VERGUENZA
morons. merecumbe hecho en Colombia para que sepan...no en cuba...morones.. mis abuelos y tio abuelos compusieron y hasta el nombre "Merecumbe" le dieron.. y ellos so the Cartagena, Colombia!
@GenGeorgeWashington ellos eran "Orquesta Nuevo Horizonte" desde el ano 1923. despues "Orquesta de Lucho" y despues "La Orquesta de Pacho Galan"...... Cuba remixed la cancion "Ay cosita Linda" como 3 veces y nunca se oyo bien cuando la hicieron otra vez... solo estaba buena para vailar....El Merecumbe es Colombiano de mi abuelo "Tomas, Pompilio, Efrain y Lucho Rodriguez Moreno.....!
More angry Cubans upset because a music form they (Europeans/Africans/Indigenous) created has been popularized, transformed, and improved upon by other folks. GET OVER IT.
si queridos la Salsa empezo en Haiti y Cuba era una mezcla de jazz y ritmos africanos, luego de que Fidel subio al poder en 1959 bajo un poco la internaciolizacion de este ritmo en Cuba. entonces fue alli cuando NY, Miami y Colombia se convierten en los centros de la salsa. SiSi Cali es la capital de la salsa duelale a quien le duela. Mas Abakua es el nombre que al grupo se le dio la gana de ponerse y que con eso..........y es porque la misma proviene de ritmos africanos.
This is how missinformation is widespread. Some fucking ignorants who have no clue what the fuck they're talking
about come to the internet to mislead people who might not know any better.
So-called "Salsa" didn't start in NY or PR.
Stop taking credit for something other people created and you borrowed and made your little version from it!!! Cause that's what y'all did!. In there's nothing in that bullshit video wich identifies the ABAKUA!!! Do some fucking non-bias research first!!!
salsa is a mix of cultures and music from all over. it is still developing like a language. nobody owns it. we all share it and add to it.
salsa is a made up term anyhow, much like 'pop music'. it is term used to mean a huge range of musics and styles.
the ability of these dancers and creativity of the choreography are stunning to me. the mix of influences shown here is immense. any musician or dancer can appreciate this.
¿Desde cuándo hay tumbao en la salsa caleña? La salsa de Cali es sólo una imitación tocada a estilo propio, nada que ver con la Salsa sabrosa de New York que fue la mezcla primera...la reina del Sabor. Hay que estudiar un poco más.
Por cierto, Jhonny Colón, el Maestro, es también Puertorriqueño. ¿Cómo no?
Y donde esta lo abakua?... que chistoso si bailan como puertorros y los abakua fue una sociedad secreta de los afrodecendientes en cuba, desafortunadamente con esta retorica de la "salsa" se ha desinformado a la gente, ademas esto es una payasada... ache para todos Maferefun!
Frankie Martinez presents ABAKUA Afro-Latin Dance Company in a FREE one hour show live from Lincoln Center as part of the Lincoln Center Out of Doors Festival. One historic evening Sunday August 9, 2009 7:30 pm. Come witness history!
Johnny Colon's 'Merecumbe' is one of my favorite salsa tunes of all time...and the choreography is awesome as well, Juan Martos and Frankie Martinez together..I don't know the other dancers but they are all pretty awesome!!
merecumbe, merecumbe, merecumbe se lo traigo a usted...la mejor musica y como bailan de bien aunque mejor lo hacen los colombianos. nada mal mi mejor puntuacion. 5/5
Otro ejemplo de la mal llevada envidia colombiana. El sabor auténtico de la Salsa es de Nueva York y de Puertorrico. Otras naciones tienen sus músicas como el joropo, la cumbia, etc, en las que son maestras...pero decir que los colombianos interpretan las salsa al bailar como un neoyorquino o un borinqueño....please, nada que ver.
wow that was fantastic. so professional. you can dance salsa but the afro-cuban sabor isn't something you learn - you feel it. well done. made me want to dance!
No tienen el sabor latino.. menos el colombiano pero bueno.. se acercan. y pues bien por el experimento.. no son pasos tradicionales pero bien por mezclar las tecnicas clasicas con los pasos tradicionales
es latino es afro es contemporaneo es clasico ..es mambo..es una fusion unica...no es colombiano ni un estilo en especial..es el estilo afro latin funk q viene creando franky hace tiempo..otro ej de buena mezcla es franklin diaz..saludos
Abakua performed in Madrid last year their pieces, Raices, Children of a Groove, Stills with poetry during intermission. I heard it was awesome! They have been invited back to Madrid and are now adding their latest piece to perform a full 2 hour theatre show. However, they are going to perform the entire show in New York before they take it on tour. I am holding my breath!
I wouldve scored this choreography in a 50's palladium zoot style setting. With the guys being zoots or "pachucos" like they used to call them in the 50s doing various complicated footwork and tricks and drops. Now that i think of it. I might do it.
I love your idea for the choreography but getting back to Frankie Martinez, he mixes and matches traditional and modern dance and has succeeded in taking his style to another level.
i m agree with u ,im modern dancer and i had the honor to spoke with him and he told me that he mixs afro , modern (contemporaneo) and mambo ..but he still lookin for new mixes..like plena bogaloo and funky.. he is awesome.. that style he called afro latin funk..sorry for my english ..saludos
I love frankie martinez , i just didnt appreciate this show. If i wouldve choreographed and done customes for this show I wouldve done it differently.
Frankie isn't even trying to do traditional salsa, so it makes no sense to compare it to salsa. As he says in his DVD, he calls what he does "Afro-Latin funk" now.
ah pipe...Abakua can dance boogaloo if they want I just saw them...Salsa is born in NY ...they can own you because they dance many styles (newyork, los angeles, on clave, ...) and you???
first time I saw this video I said..ok it's ok, second time wow..that's cool...third time woww hilarious...forth time WOW INCREDIBLE...fifth time I fall down from my chair :D....every single movement of their body worths all salseros moves in the earth, this is music this is dancing without turning around 1000 times it's just body moves I love it it's an example. ps: frankie is a gay? you must know that every dancer on these levels f00ked over 5000 girls in his life.
pipe, what do you mean colombians? Can you do the footwork on this video? I really don't think so and can you choreograph something like this? I really doubt it. It is said that all Latin countries are linked, your comments intend to separate and that is really sad.
i dont really want to separate nothing.... its just that i think the colombians really feel the music, what kind of choreograph is this.. thats not salsa!!!! and yes you are rite.... i cant do a choreograph like that... because i know how to dance salsa!!!
This song is the BEST. This choreography is weird, but very VERY good. I see them mark the 2nd beat very little, they step a lot on 1, 3, 5 and 7 but little on 2 and 6. That's why it's a bit strange, but these guys can dance!
las mujeres en algunos movimietos se veen masculinas
FABIAN870906 1 month ago
I watch it at least twice a day!
bandicoot41 7 months ago
jajajajajajaj yo se que es mi primera ves en verla pero es bakana y biendo que la muchacha se callo
davidtjz 8 months ago
de salsa no saben nada...
yersonba 1 year ago
Cali es Cali y lo demas es loma :)
latinobwoy69 1 year ago
@latinobwoy69 There is also an issue where the masculine dance moves has been totally eroded. Pls take a look at "Havana Rakatan". See their dancers : huge differences between male and female body motions and movements. Here i dont see any difference. Pls clarify. Is latin dancing turning androgynous now?
AfroMalaya 1 year ago
I was checking the salsa wikipedia and suddenly a new entry been made on NY Style -> Abakua School. Did some private research and found out that Abakua is a afro-cuban fraternal organisation, a secret society.
How come none of the dance member here are cubans/ have afro roots, or have afro-cuban training from original source? On top of it the music is NY mambo, developed by puerto ricans. I check Abakua website and Frankie Martinez is definitely not afro. Can someone frm Abakua School clarify?
AfroMalaya 1 year ago
@AfroMalaya
kenimoli 1 year ago
@AfroMalaya I didn't know that you had to be of afro decent to be able to dance afro cuban.. Furthermore,If you do more of your "private research" you will realize that Puerto Ricans are of afro decent too.
kenimoli 1 year ago
@kenimoli Stop insinuating, i am asking for clarifications. But what i am saying is there is NO link to afro-cuban dances at all but utilize the name Abakua. At least have decency to have the real Abakua dancing or heritage - e.g. pitting kukluxklan looking effigy against oppressed afros, etc. What i see here is NY 2nd Hand Mambo (not even real mambo) masquearading as Afro-cuban dance. And changing the name to Afro-Latin Funk which is is closer to musicality of the Timba than NY Jazz Mambo.
AfroMalaya 1 year ago
@AfroMalaya Yes you're correct it is a secret society, which has it's roots in Calabar Nigeria where I'm from! The language is a mixture of Efik,Yoruba and Spanish.I guess within this context, they are taking the dance style from Abakua, and improvising it, hence the 'Abakua School' It is quintessentially an Afro Cuban fraternity, however those non Afro Cubans may have had African Ancestors, and have passed on the tradition, so now colour is not necessarily a big deal.
PEACE!
vixxy02 1 year ago
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AfroMalaya 1 year ago
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AfroMalaya 1 year ago
Frankie Martinez is salsa. amazing how bad the guy next to him looks doing the same solo Lol!!! Tone it down Frankie!!!!
mamboking136 1 year ago
Y esta asquerosidad DIOS MIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Deberian irse a coger una clasecitas pq d salsa no saben nada donde esta la gracia y la clase por favor la salsa es sabor no estan bailando reggaeton parecen locos donde esta la clave pq eso es bailar salsa CLAVE APRENDAN CLAVE 1,2,3,5,6,7 ESO ES CLAVE MIRA SI SON UNOS POTROS SALVAJES Q LA DE LA DERECHA D TU PANTALLA SE REVENTO JAJAJJAA DEBERIA DARLES VERGUENZA
Yquepasofull 1 year ago
morons. merecumbe hecho en Colombia para que sepan...no en cuba...morones.. mis abuelos y tio abuelos compusieron y hasta el nombre "Merecumbe" le dieron.. y ellos so the Cartagena, Colombia!
GenGeorgeWashington 1 year ago
@GenGeorgeWashington ellos eran "Orquesta Nuevo Horizonte" desde el ano 1923. despues "Orquesta de Lucho" y despues "La Orquesta de Pacho Galan"...... Cuba remixed la cancion "Ay cosita Linda" como 3 veces y nunca se oyo bien cuando la hicieron otra vez... solo estaba buena para vailar....El Merecumbe es Colombiano de mi abuelo "Tomas, Pompilio, Efrain y Lucho Rodriguez Moreno.....!
GenGeorgeWashington 1 year ago
More angry Cubans upset because a music form they (Europeans/Africans/Indigenous) created has been popularized, transformed, and improved upon by other folks. GET OVER IT.
lhaire 1 year ago
@lhaire its timba time now. 1,000 timba songs every year. Puerto Ricans are going reggaeton cause its all about selling for them.
AfroMalaya 1 year ago
si queridos la Salsa empezo en Haiti y Cuba era una mezcla de jazz y ritmos africanos, luego de que Fidel subio al poder en 1959 bajo un poco la internaciolizacion de este ritmo en Cuba. entonces fue alli cuando NY, Miami y Colombia se convierten en los centros de la salsa. SiSi Cali es la capital de la salsa duelale a quien le duela. Mas Abakua es el nombre que al grupo se le dio la gana de ponerse y que con eso..........y es porque la misma proviene de ritmos africanos.
montanitolj 1 year ago
ke es eso yo soy makarò mofe efò taiba eso no tiene nada ke ver con los abakua
MrKuba92 1 year ago
This is how missinformation is widespread. Some fucking ignorants who have no clue what the fuck they're talking
about come to the internet to mislead people who might not know any better.
So-called "Salsa" didn't start in NY or PR.
Stop taking credit for something other people created and you borrowed and made your little version from it!!! Cause that's what y'all did!. In there's nothing in that bullshit video wich identifies the ABAKUA!!! Do some fucking non-bias research first!!!
pedrom41 2 years ago
what an eloquent point.
salsa is a mix of cultures and music from all over. it is still developing like a language. nobody owns it. we all share it and add to it.
salsa is a made up term anyhow, much like 'pop music'. it is term used to mean a huge range of musics and styles.
the ability of these dancers and creativity of the choreography are stunning to me. the mix of influences shown here is immense. any musician or dancer can appreciate this.
richiemanic09 1 year ago
heeeee nada como el TUMBAOOOO CALEÑOOOO cali es cali lo demas ya saben....te amo
1988jefferson 2 years ago
¿Desde cuándo hay tumbao en la salsa caleña? La salsa de Cali es sólo una imitación tocada a estilo propio, nada que ver con la Salsa sabrosa de New York que fue la mezcla primera...la reina del Sabor. Hay que estudiar un poco más.
Por cierto, Jhonny Colón, el Maestro, es también Puertorriqueño. ¿Cómo no?
Marianosolano 2 years ago
The dude Zafito is correct. Abakua are a secret society of a very macho mens only club of witches. Cambien el nombresito que estan equivocadisimos.
PutaLoca11 2 years ago
Y donde esta lo abakua?... que chistoso si bailan como puertorros y los abakua fue una sociedad secreta de los afrodecendientes en cuba, desafortunadamente con esta retorica de la "salsa" se ha desinformado a la gente, ademas esto es una payasada... ache para todos Maferefun!
zafrito 2 years ago
wwaaooo frankie siempre impresionante
renriquegutierrez 2 years ago
si, pobre..se cayò feo pero bailan fantastico!!!
malicia98 2 years ago
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xenergizerx 2 years ago
Johnny Colon's 'Merecumbe' is one of my favorite salsa tunes of all time...and the choreography is awesome as well, Juan Martos and Frankie Martinez together..I don't know the other dancers but they are all pretty awesome!!
statickk14 2 years ago
the principal girls is Lori Perez.
analfabeta44 2 years ago
merecumbe, merecumbe, merecumbe se lo traigo a usted...la mejor musica y como bailan de bien aunque mejor lo hacen los colombianos. nada mal mi mejor puntuacion. 5/5
chriztianz20 2 years ago
Otro ejemplo de la mal llevada envidia colombiana. El sabor auténtico de la Salsa es de Nueva York y de Puertorrico. Otras naciones tienen sus músicas como el joropo, la cumbia, etc, en las que son maestras...pero decir que los colombianos interpretan las salsa al bailar como un neoyorquino o un borinqueño....please, nada que ver.
Marianosolano 2 years ago
No me parece que asi se baile la salsa.
Aunque si estuvieron bien ;)
CrisFlow18 2 years ago
si se baila asi tambien! Eso se llama shines en salsa de Puerto Rico!!
fanettesalsera 2 years ago
ESTA SI PORQUE ES COMIDA PA' LLEVAR
azalori 2 years ago
meresalsa sera eso
faviolite 3 years ago
Excelent dance group, Clasical song!
arimoncalves 3 years ago
chequen el minuto 4:39. upss se kayó jijii
muskaflav 3 years ago 3
I loved it
betmar123 3 years ago
sorry...REALLY liked it :P
aldilamasmejor 3 years ago
I realy liked the fusion
por mas cultura latina :)
aldilamasmejor 3 years ago
wow that was fantastic. so professional. you can dance salsa but the afro-cuban sabor isn't something you learn - you feel it. well done. made me want to dance!
Tucci31 3 years ago
It's funny you should mention that because every single person on that stage LEARNED the AFRO-CUBAN body motion.
magikk 3 years ago
No tienen el sabor latino.. menos el colombiano pero bueno.. se acercan. y pues bien por el experimento.. no son pasos tradicionales pero bien por mezclar las tecnicas clasicas con los pasos tradicionales
pipe63 3 years ago
es latino es afro es contemporaneo es clasico ..es mambo..es una fusion unica...no es colombiano ni un estilo en especial..es el estilo afro latin funk q viene creando franky hace tiempo..otro ej de buena mezcla es franklin diaz..saludos
rokrman22 3 years ago
Abakua performed in Madrid last year their pieces, Raices, Children of a Groove, Stills with poetry during intermission. I heard it was awesome! They have been invited back to Madrid and are now adding their latest piece to perform a full 2 hour theatre show. However, they are going to perform the entire show in New York before they take it on tour. I am holding my breath!
rha134 4 years ago
how can it be so perfect?!?! ohhhhh...love it!
pinkya1989 4 years ago 5
I wouldve scored this choreography in a 50's palladium zoot style setting. With the guys being zoots or "pachucos" like they used to call them in the 50s doing various complicated footwork and tricks and drops. Now that i think of it. I might do it.
Que viva frankie, hes still an excellent dancer.
Colombinany 4 years ago
I love your idea for the choreography but getting back to Frankie Martinez, he mixes and matches traditional and modern dance and has succeeded in taking his style to another level.
rha134 4 years ago
i m agree with u ,im modern dancer and i had the honor to spoke with him and he told me that he mixs afro , modern (contemporaneo) and mambo ..but he still lookin for new mixes..like plena bogaloo and funky.. he is awesome.. that style he called afro latin funk..sorry for my english ..saludos
rokrman22 3 years ago
I love frankie martinez , i just didnt appreciate this show. If i wouldve choreographed and done customes for this show I wouldve done it differently.
Colombinany 4 years ago
frankie martinez number one
DjRastaItalia 4 years ago
Frankie isn't even trying to do traditional salsa, so it makes no sense to compare it to salsa. As he says in his DVD, he calls what he does "Afro-Latin funk" now.
Lofland000 4 years ago
ah pipe...Abakua can dance boogaloo if they want I just saw them...Salsa is born in NY ...they can own you because they dance many styles (newyork, los angeles, on clave, ...) and you???
husskash 4 years ago
first time I saw this video I said..ok it's ok, second time wow..that's cool...third time woww hilarious...forth time WOW INCREDIBLE...fifth time I fall down from my chair :D....every single movement of their body worths all salseros moves in the earth, this is music this is dancing without turning around 1000 times it's just body moves I love it it's an example. ps: frankie is a gay? you must know that every dancer on these levels f00ked over 5000 girls in his life.
husskash 4 years ago
plx nothing like colombians.... no footwork?
pipe587 4 years ago
you mean like salsa boricua !!! Lujoso
Sebamb970 4 years ago
pipe, what do you mean colombians? Can you do the footwork on this video? I really don't think so and can you choreograph something like this? I really doubt it. It is said that all Latin countries are linked, your comments intend to separate and that is really sad.
rha134 4 years ago
i dont really want to separate nothing.... its just that i think the colombians really feel the music, what kind of choreograph is this.. thats not salsa!!!! and yes you are rite.... i cant do a choreograph like that... because i know how to dance salsa!!!
pipe587 4 years ago
Pipe, let's see your work in the theatre!
rha134 4 years ago
Merecumbé/ Johnny Colon
Hannitah 4 years ago
omg who is the artist for this song? i need to no
Akilahfoye 4 years ago
This song is the BEST. This choreography is weird, but very VERY good. I see them mark the 2nd beat very little, they step a lot on 1, 3, 5 and 7 but little on 2 and 6. That's why it's a bit strange, but these guys can dance!
moraiwe 4 years ago
I would like to dance with you! For sure...that's awesome.
Hannitah 4 years ago
very good
richimon20 4 years ago
Holy shit, that was great. :D
futbole 5 years ago
I agree, that video blew my mind!
JazzyJez 5 years ago
Now that's what I call a Salsa Preformance!!!
Geo99 5 years ago
Very Nice.
magikk 5 years ago
This performance is incredible...Frankie Martinez's choreography is amazing....Lori as the lead is fantastic!
LilLatinaLP77 5 years ago