Hmm...a therapy that waves something rhythmically back-and-forth in front of your eyes and has you relax. All that is missing is "you are getting sleeeeepy." Problem is, hypnotism is DANGEROUS. It is very easy for therapists to implant memories when someone is that relaxed and focused. Many of these videos have the therapist saying "and then I had this idea of changing their memory" Bad idea. SCARY idea. Try reading "Making Monsters" by R. Ofshe and E. Watters sometime.
Hmm...a therapy that waves something rhythmically back-and-forth in front of your eyes and has you relax. All that is missing is "you are getting sleeeeepy." Problem is, hypnotism is DANGEROUS. It is very easy for therapists to implant memories when someone is that relaxed and focused. Many of these videos have the therapist saying "and then I had this idea of changing their memory" Bad idea. SCARY idea. Try reading "Making Monsters" by R. Ofshe and E. Watters sometime
why is this so underground no one talks about it...if it does cure all this stuff it would be advertised it would be everywhere like all the pills etc.This may work for some people..But i'm willing to bet it don't for most i'll cast a spell on you through you eye movement laughable play some xbox 360 for a while seems the same to me as that i do seem to feel better after playing it but it don't last long...
Is it safe to self use an EMDR program? without a therapist? What's the therapists' role in EMDR therapy that is a MUST or will fail in therapy session? cause i have the program for EMDR, its a square that moves back and forth with bilateral sound. How i approach the therapy is that...I jus visualize my negative past events, or merely my negative symptoms, and focus on them really hard while following da square back & forth. Is it safe of me to continue doing this? without a therapist present?
@SoyySauceeBoii EMDR won't work unless you have a therapist present. For some reason, it just won't work and you may be causing more harm than anything by trying by yourself, or it could be just harmless. It's odd and I don't think they can explain it but without a therapist just doesn't work. Odd eh?
Also i havent a clue how this technique would work unless it was a result of releasing emotional trauma.
Probably just some confidence trick therapy, like a placebo effect. Pretty expensive for that tho! Much like most modern day therapy - focusing on thoughts to change feellings.
@cheekyleopard What is a "Racetam'? How is it better than EMDR? I've been looking at EMDR, NLP Hypnosis, and other forms of psychotherapy. Please elaborate.
Come on guys! You think just moving your eyes side to side is the whole purpose and the whole effectiveness of EMDR? You are so wrong. To tell you the truth when you think about it we move our eyes every day of our lives and is that getting you anywhere? Thats what I thought. He even explaines why it works. If you dont know why then watch the video again. If you do then good. Plus why the fuck would this guy be lying? Hes a psychotherapist for a living. All he wants to do is do good for people.
Its pretty simple. Its repressed memories that hold the belief. Process the memory, then you are pretty much a blank page again. It works, but as usual they over-complicate it all. You dont even need a Therapist to do this. Its not magic, its a simple way of kick-starting a very normal process in the mind. During trauma memories get stuck. In my experience eye movement is no more effective than touch or sound - its all good. In fact all 3 at the same time is better.This guy is waffling.
Because physcotherapy is still in the dark ages believing that repressed memories dont exist and they are (as freud said) repressed sexual desires. Also the drug companies what to carry on making a fortune selling drugs that are totally in-effective.
For people recovering traumatic memories consider taking Racetams and Choline. These increase communication between the two hemispheres and by-pass the defense mechanism of the ego - much like EMDR attempts to do. But with chemicals its far more effective but obviously slightly more dangerous.
Dont bother with drugs perscribed by Shrinks as they all supress and dis-connect.
make sure you are trained if you are planning on experimenting with this technique alone. For instance, during the weekend 1 training I completed, I cannot perform the EMDR on such a person with chemical addictions....otherwise, I do them more harm than good and the substance addiction worsens. Please DO NOT TRY this technique without a trained professional.....or else!
Hi Keely - yeah that was my experience. Its as if the answers have come to me at exactually the right time, and it wouldnt of worked with someone else prizing them out of me.
well... yeah... its not about eye movements, though I guess from someone who hasn't tried it could confuse that. Its about the event being concentrated on and how the mind processes that event.
Nobody is saying that eye movements alone reduce the symptoms of PTSD. Other forms of bilateral stimulation are also affective. And it is not just the bilateral stimulation that is part of the EMDR protocol. Please check out the protocol of EMDR if you want to have an informed debate.
There are many peer reviewed studies. Here in the UK EMDR is the treatment of choice of the NHS for certain conditions, because of the amount of scientific evidence. In fact it is mostly CBT therapists that are using it because it adds a significant difference to their practice. The top psychiatrists and clinical psychologists dealing with PTSD in the UK, particularly at the Maudsley Hospital use it. You clearly are closed to this frm of therapy. That's is your loss.
Hmm...a therapy that waves something rhythmically back-and-forth in front of your eyes and has you relax. All that is missing is "you are getting sleeeeepy." Problem is, hypnotism is DANGEROUS. It is very easy for therapists to implant memories when someone is that relaxed and focused. Many of these videos have the therapist saying "and then I had this idea of changing their memory" Bad idea. SCARY idea. Try reading "Making Monsters" by R. Ofshe and E. Watters sometime.
lucretiaaos 1 year ago
Hmm...a therapy that waves something rhythmically back-and-forth in front of your eyes and has you relax. All that is missing is "you are getting sleeeeepy." Problem is, hypnotism is DANGEROUS. It is very easy for therapists to implant memories when someone is that relaxed and focused. Many of these videos have the therapist saying "and then I had this idea of changing their memory" Bad idea. SCARY idea. Try reading "Making Monsters" by R. Ofshe and E. Watters sometime
lucretiaaos 1 year ago
why is this so underground no one talks about it...if it does cure all this stuff it would be advertised it would be everywhere like all the pills etc.This may work for some people..But i'm willing to bet it don't for most i'll cast a spell on you through you eye movement laughable play some xbox 360 for a while seems the same to me as that i do seem to feel better after playing it but it don't last long...
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Retorecato 1 year ago
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zivsoffer 1 year ago
Is it safe to self use an EMDR program? without a therapist? What's the therapists' role in EMDR therapy that is a MUST or will fail in therapy session? cause i have the program for EMDR, its a square that moves back and forth with bilateral sound. How i approach the therapy is that...I jus visualize my negative past events, or merely my negative symptoms, and focus on them really hard while following da square back & forth. Is it safe of me to continue doing this? without a therapist present?
SoyySauceeBoii 1 year ago
@SoyySauceeBoii EMDR won't work unless you have a therapist present. For some reason, it just won't work and you may be causing more harm than anything by trying by yourself, or it could be just harmless. It's odd and I don't think they can explain it but without a therapist just doesn't work. Odd eh?
dokemow13 1 year ago
Cheekyleopard, Thanks for responding. That makes sense!
KeelyBrookeT 1 year ago
@KeelyBrookeT No probs. :-)
cheekyleopard 1 year ago
Also i havent a clue how this technique would work unless it was a result of releasing emotional trauma.
Probably just some confidence trick therapy, like a placebo effect. Pretty expensive for that tho! Much like most modern day therapy - focusing on thoughts to change feellings.
cheekyleopard 1 year ago
Sorry posted twice by accident.
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cheekyleopard 1 year ago
Emdr is all about stimulating the Corpus Callosum to help transfer 'stuck' emotional trauma.
Racetams do this as a fraction of the cost, and are 10000 times more effective.
cheekyleopard 1 year ago
@cheekyleopard What is a "Racetam'? How is it better than EMDR? I've been looking at EMDR, NLP Hypnosis, and other forms of psychotherapy. Please elaborate.
edthewave 1 year ago
@edthewave
Hey there.
EMDR stimulates the corpus callosum to encourage integration of memories.
Piracetam does exactually the same thing. I suffered multiple (over years) trauma as a child, and have found choline/piracetam extremely effective.
With piracetam your not paying a fortune or relying on anyone else - just need to have coping mechanisms to deal with what comes up.
Regards.
cheekyleopard 1 year ago
@edthewave
There are 4 racetams - Piracetam, Aniracetam, oxiracetam and Pramiracetam.
Piracetam is extremely safe and legal to use. Its totally none toxic and is a super-connecter in the brain.
For someone like me who had ALOT of respressed trauma it was like dynamite.
I also have EMDR programs, and have had EMDR administered to me by qualified professionals - Piracetam/choline is FAR more effective.
Choline is needed to supplement the piracetam to make it effective.
Regards.
cheekyleopard 1 year ago
Ah, Good old Dr. Paul. As reliable as he is on target.
BuildABetterLife 1 year ago
Come on guys! You think just moving your eyes side to side is the whole purpose and the whole effectiveness of EMDR? You are so wrong. To tell you the truth when you think about it we move our eyes every day of our lives and is that getting you anywhere? Thats what I thought. He even explaines why it works. If you dont know why then watch the video again. If you do then good. Plus why the fuck would this guy be lying? Hes a psychotherapist for a living. All he wants to do is do good for people.
modestas23 2 years ago
@modestas23
Why would this guy be lying??
Hes waffling.
Also...... crap like this is over-complicated for a reason, so therapists can make money.
In the UK a T earns a damn good wage - £40-£50 an hour.
Alot are in it for the money.
In fact.... when im better i might learn the same crap, and do the same courses.... so i can peddle crap therapy and buy myself a brand new BMW.
cheekyleopard 2 years ago
Its pretty simple. Its repressed memories that hold the belief. Process the memory, then you are pretty much a blank page again. It works, but as usual they over-complicate it all. You dont even need a Therapist to do this. Its not magic, its a simple way of kick-starting a very normal process in the mind. During trauma memories get stuck. In my experience eye movement is no more effective than touch or sound - its all good. In fact all 3 at the same time is better.This guy is waffling.
cheekyleopard 2 years ago
Walking is easy, but If this is so easy, why isn't everyone practicing this technique? I think there is a little bit more to it?
KeelyBrookeT 2 years ago
Because physcotherapy is still in the dark ages believing that repressed memories dont exist and they are (as freud said) repressed sexual desires. Also the drug companies what to carry on making a fortune selling drugs that are totally in-effective.
cheekyleopard 2 years ago
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emmacosby1 2 years ago
I so agree with you, I am a therapist by trade, but there is too much waffle and over complication.
snapdragon14 2 years ago
Im glad you agree ;-)
I just HATE all this new-age waffle talk. All so people can make it more complicated so YOU NEED THEM because its seems so deep, when it isnt.
cheekyleopard 2 years ago
Just to add:-
For people recovering traumatic memories consider taking Racetams and Choline. These increase communication between the two hemispheres and by-pass the defense mechanism of the ego - much like EMDR attempts to do. But with chemicals its far more effective but obviously slightly more dangerous.
Dont bother with drugs perscribed by Shrinks as they all supress and dis-connect.
cheekyleopard 2 years ago
make sure you are trained if you are planning on experimenting with this technique alone. For instance, during the weekend 1 training I completed, I cannot perform the EMDR on such a person with chemical addictions....otherwise, I do them more harm than good and the substance addiction worsens. Please DO NOT TRY this technique without a trained professional.....or else!
emmacosby1 2 years ago
@emmacosby1
Dont agree, lol.
I have had severe dissociation and PTSD from childhood abuse.
Theres no way im being held back from a 'mental health professional' that knows less about the mind than myself.
Been there, done that.
cheekyleopard 2 years ago
@cheekyleopard What do you mean? You mean that no one knows more about your mind than you know about yourself and your own mind?
KeelyBrookeT 2 years ago
@KeelyBrookeT
Hi Keely - yeah that was my experience. Its as if the answers have come to me at exactually the right time, and it wouldnt of worked with someone else prizing them out of me.
cheekyleopard 1 year ago
The speaker is very good. What is his name?
adamatova 2 years ago
The guy on the left is Dr. Paul, the guy on the right is David DeAngelo.
R.
Tovarski 2 years ago
EMDR is absolutely helpful
I did an EMDR therapy because I was traumatized by my past (cruel parents, mobbing at school, bad experiences with girls, etc).
Doing EMDR helped me change my defective believes (I am weak, ugly, helpless, etc) to positive believes (I am handsome, I can take care of me, etc).
People, it really helps.
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SoyySauceeBoii 1 year ago
yes
layla115 3 years ago
well... yeah... its not about eye movements, though I guess from someone who hasn't tried it could confuse that. Its about the event being concentrated on and how the mind processes that event.
layla115 3 years ago
If you don't try it, I can absolutely guarantee my life on it that you are missing out on pure magic.
LunaticzLaw 3 years ago 2
100% guaranteed.
LunaticzLaw 3 years ago
absolutely.
lindacurran 3 years ago
It helped me with my panic attacks
layla115 3 years ago
Do you believe that EMDR is only a process of directing a client's eye movements? Nothing else, just eye movement?
Darryld1 3 years ago
Left-Right Brain Stimulation To Trigger Memories.
This allows memories to be called up faster than just talking alone, so that the therapist can help the patient purge the pain associated with them.
BuildABetterLife 3 years ago
Nobody is saying that eye movements alone reduce the symptoms of PTSD. Other forms of bilateral stimulation are also affective. And it is not just the bilateral stimulation that is part of the EMDR protocol. Please check out the protocol of EMDR if you want to have an informed debate.
Jaemass 3 years ago
There are many peer reviewed studies. Here in the UK EMDR is the treatment of choice of the NHS for certain conditions, because of the amount of scientific evidence. In fact it is mostly CBT therapists that are using it because it adds a significant difference to their practice. The top psychiatrists and clinical psychologists dealing with PTSD in the UK, particularly at the Maudsley Hospital use it. You clearly are closed to this frm of therapy. That's is your loss.
Jaemass 3 years ago
Excellent teaching style---helpful, informative, and inspiring.
patternbreaker 4 years ago
Dear Ragulator! Please try once EMDR... It is more than CBT...
kindries 4 years ago