John Adams - The Miniseries (John & Abigail on Popularity)

[1987AnimeBoy]

"Mr. Hamilton takes equal pains to ensure that the Federalist Papers are filled with scurrilous attacks on Thomas Jefferson and his Party."

Which one was Adams speaking for in this quote, Hamilton or Jefferson?

[mgwilliams1000]

And we think the mud-slinging and press editorials of today are vile. One of the wonderful things of our Republic. Adams, Jefferson and the rest knew what they were in for as far as the Press and public opinion when they started this nation... they didn't like it, but they expected it.

[ryan7164]

I love the motion John does with his mouth when she says" toothless", lol.

[historygirl0126]

I love this couple. This scene is brilliant! :) 

[a55kiker]

I'm not crippled...

[mgwilliams1000]

They would not call George Washington hermaphorditical! They could call him toothless though... HA Priceless exchange between these two.

[Stardweller1]

And the message is:

You cannot trust political villifications.

[MainiacBrainiac]

"They could call him toothless, though." Lol.

I guess this must be how Obama feels when someone brings him the latest poll numbers about how many people he's a secret foreign agent trained from birth to destroy the republic. 'Ya just gotta laugh at some of this stuff.

[RushLimborg]

@MainiacBrainiac

Try all the pinheads who think Bush faked the 9/11 attacks--or that Cheney blew up the levys.

Laura: "They would not say this about Reagan. They would not call RONALD REAGAN a "Fascist"!"

W: "They could call him "toothless", though.... :-)

[kepler1000]

@MainiacBrainiac

But he is an idiot...

[amusedtodeath1]

I love this seen from this show. It really does go into how John and Abigail most likely thought about negative articles writen about John at the time.

I would like to ask anybody reading this if somebody can uploud the scene from the episode "Unnecessary War" where the wife of John Adams son Charles Adams leaves him telling abigail why she can not handle him any more as well as the seen where John disowns him for being a dead beat alcholic. Us people looking for that seen would love it.

[RushLimborg]

I wonder if Laura and W had had a few moments like this upon reading the latest New York Times....

[RushLimborg]

Wow. The junk Abigail reads from those editorials about John sounds suspiciously like the average Keith Olbermann Special Comment during the Bush administration--with some Al Franken "satire" thrown in for good measure. *sigh*

[saruul123demon]

reminds me of Beauty and the beast

[UnionKid15]

Well, John Adams is getting use(d) to these insinuations, these rude outbursts. He takes it with as much thick-skin as possible. He's smoking a cigar even, haha. Thanks for posting this, great scene.

[ThomasAnime]

I'm surprised that this time, John Adams could be calm with the criticism about him while Abigail is the one who is pissed off. Normally, John Adams is the furious one.

[RossSeaker]

Whoever thinks Fox News is something new should have a look at the press back in those days.

[brabon1]

ya....and amazing how fragile our current politicians are to criticism

this show was great

and too bad that women couldnt run for office back then...abigail wouldve made a brilliant president

[san39730]

Politicians would have crack under pressure with the amount of media criticism today. That was one long statement instead of a million smallones made everyday.

[brabon1]

i suggest you do research on the newspapers and pamphleteers of the time

the pols ignored most....but it was pretty rough...and frequent

[fntime]

abigail, might have been, but not you!

You are not just dumb, you are real dumb.

[brabon1]

as you are a fucked up wingnut freak...i take that as a compliment

cant wait till the fema concentration camps open and you end up first online

[fntime]

You're right,the press today is like Nazi germany, with Obama acting like be is the fuhrer.Most newpapers who are very liberal,defend almost anything he does like a health plan,that is trying to highjack the liberties of Americans. It isn't that Obama is bad, he is worse, the closest that we have to a dictator. He is also a liar, when did he make the presidential election a mandate for health care,he would've lost the election. He's a loser, his supporters are losers also!

[random237p]

first i am getting tired of anyone caling any president hitler, hitler was a vile exuse of a human being, secondly the NAZI party was a conservative party who hated the Comunists, in fact part of there platform was to rid Germany of them

[fntime]

Hey random, the Nazi, were 'socialist' and also encouraged the Obama agenda. Strong people, resent others, getting in their business, liberals, (cowardly Nazi} want to control people and like yourself, most are so 'flawed' they can't live in their own skin, so they try to find value by pushing an assinine agenda, that could only appeal to nitwits. This is the curse of children of the rich, they personally have nothing to offer, so they think changing others, is their 'mission.'

[chufuss]

@fntime : I'm a "liberal" I don't want to control anyone. I am also not rich but come from working class people. I don't want to change others but to help them.

[fntime]

By the way, random, you being a communist is excusable, you are a 'kid'.

You probably never had a job that didn't

involve the school you attend. You are

dumb, but don't have the 'shame' not

to expose it.

"Now go home and get your fuckin' shine

box"

[abnoceans12]

@random237p Dont confuse the NAZI party was the National SOCIALIST Party. In Europe's Socialist system Nazis could be the conservative RIGHT and communism was the liberal LEFT. Not to be compared with the Left and Right wings of this country thats a whole different evil

[espada9]

John Adams like all great men had great flaws but dishonesty and disingenuous were not on the list.

[fntime]

Can't agree more, Bush and Obama, are

dishonest & disingenuous.

What kind of nation are we, that we must

choose amongst Obama, Clinton, Bush,

or McCain.This country is going to get

what it deserves, stupid people are hated

by the 'fates' and the 'gods'.

I would combine them all into a new party,

the Shit Party.

[SSJ2VEGEROTRULES]

@espada9 just like all the founding fathers, Washington acted like a monarch, Adams despised political parties, and while clearly very much a Federalist, he was viewed as too moderate in his own political side. Jefferson, had a lisp, his economic policies ruined the economy, and more often did not practice what he preached as president. Madison was more fit for writing and theory than political practice. Alexander Hamilton had a superiority complex, and Franklin was a womanizer.

[Stardweller1]

@SSJ2VEGEROTRULES The Founding Fathers were human.

[HardikG121]

@espada9 I agree, he was always stubborn, and somewhat outspoken, but was nonetheless a brave, and intelligent patriot

[grumpytosnowwhite]

Ha ha the last line was so funny--didn't Washington wear dentures?

[aishiteru125164]

Not all the time, he could wear them but he complained that they bothered him

but that line is hilarious!

[iLY0X8]

"old, crippled, blind, toothless adams."

OH NO SHE DIDN'T!

[Rachulie]

fuck whoever wrote that diss to my friend J!. lol

ooo was that HAMILTON>!>! OH HELL NO!

[Diomedes01]

lol

That was one of my favorite scenes from the series. Hilarious!

[hisoj]

john adams, the richard nixon of the founding fathers

[Slippinginar]

wow, your ignorant!

[theartema]

I love this scene. The sight of their teeth, however accurate, sent me straight into a whitening regiment though. xD

[eysblog1fan]

poor Mr.Adams!

[AllenbysEyes]

This scene is doubly amusing considering how pissed off Adams tended to get at attacks on him earlier in the series.

[Kent776Wx3]

Sometimes I feel like John Adams....

[cornelia826]

I love this scene!

[Charlie265]

Washington was well loved by a majority of the people; J. Adams was reviled by many.

[greg66662000]

It's the 2nd movement from Schubert's E-flat major piano trio. Quite fitting music, I think. Great selection.

[AllenbysEyes]

That piece was quite heavily used in Barry Lyndon.

[sag1101]

That is correct, and the reason for that is that it was a contemporary piece of that time, late 18th century, therefore very fitting. Kubrick was very careful with details.

[Suprkit]

It is called "Adams in the cold" from the soundtrack to the miniseries by Rob Lane and Joseph Vitarelli. It is track #20.

[bmccoy]

Anyone know the piece playing in the background?