It wouldn't let me post the link. I'd love to share it with you. If you're interested I can send it to you in a private message on youtube. Now let me see if I remember how to contact someone via youtube!!!
@nobodyspecial I think it's a great subject to talk about because it's one of the most asked about topic in God's word. You have to make your own decisions about what you believe in God's word and hopefully by witnessing it through more than one verse. Check out this link for an in depth study about tongues. Regardless of how you believe we can still be friends and agree to disagree.
I urge you to check out the meaning of tongues in the Greek.
Strong's Concordance
G1100
1) the tongue, a member of the body, an organ of speech
2) a tongue
a) the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations
It's talking about a foreign language, like German, Spanish, Italian, etc. Not some unknown babbling that can't be translated into an understandable sentence.
@mrusso27 I love researching the letter just as much as any other believer, but things that are spiritual is only meant for those who are spiritual. You will never understand lest the Lord give you wisdom.
@NobodySpecial85 I posted factual information on the meaning of the word tongues directly from the original language. I won't make any apologies for God's word to us, it is what it is. If God wanted us to speak in an unknown babble (confusion) He would have clearly stated so in his letter to us. Kindly and respectfully, if you would, please stick to the facts and do not judge the Holy Spirit within me as indeed, you judge God whilst doing so.
@mrusso27 Not judging you if you're not in sin. However, I am to judge all things (1Th 5:21) and I have a right to judge your fruit (Mat 7:20).
Like I said, I love researching the letter, but that which is of the spirit is only given by the spirit to be understood by the spirit of God (1Co 3:18-19).
@NobodySpecial85 But it is necessary, without the holy ghost you have no power. Acts 1:8- Ye shall receive power after the holy ghost has come upon you,.
I am thrilled that you believe in Jesus, but to not believe in the holy spirit is fruitless. I follow Jesus too,but I believe in God and the holy spirit. Jesus says no man comes through the father but by me. There are many other scriptures too, if you want more just message me.
@bowiehs Well brother, I never said I did not believe in the Holy Spirit. I believe you misunderstood me. I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ as God & God's son, and the Holy Spirit which comes from God as it is His spirit.
And yes, I have already received the power of the Holy Spirit. I have healed the sick in Jesus' name and cast out real/actual demons in Jesus' name. His power is manifest in my life through the power of the Holy Spirit.
@NobodySpecial85 I apologize sorry, I thought you were saying you did`nt believe. Well if that is the case, keep preaching the gospel bro, this world is dying but one whisper from Jesus can save many from hell!
People that do not believe in tongues are taught against it. To receive the Power of the Holy Spirit or the Baptism of the Holy Spirit you need to ask Jesus for it, just like you asked Him to Save you. doug
Oh, I don't have debates w/ people. I think it's ridiculous. Jesus Christ is Lord. I try to keep my faith very simple and as pure as possible... keeping away from doctrines other than Christ and Him crucified... the gospel.
Just watched his video entitled "The Three Keys To Heaven" and believe him not to be truly born again.
There was no conviction of sin, righteousness, or judgment (John 16:8). If a person isn't speaking one of these three things, know he/she is not speaking from the Holy Spirit, but from their own understanding.
He's also for homosexual marriage... which goes against 1Co 6:9-10... judging his fruits I do not believe him to be truly born again. I would stay away from that guy.
I've heard different things, some believe it shouldn't even be going on anymore, as Paul says it will cease in scripture(1 Corinthians, before the 'love is' passage).
Some believe it's just utterance...
But from scripture, I see it more as speaking another language not known to others around as a testament to the Holy Spirit. something like me speaking Spanish to someone about the Gospel without knowledge of the language.
When I get something from the Lord, I need to find it in scripture to see if it's of God or not.
The people who are against it don't have it, therefore don't listen to them.
1Co 13:8 is ONE VERSE and every Word is established by two or three witnesses (Mat 18:16 2Co 13:1) so even here they have no foundation.
When a person is baptized in the Holy Spirit you either receive tongues of men (most of the time, foreign country language) or tongues of angels (1Co 13:1). Paul spoke both.
"something like me speaking Spanish to someone about the Gospel without knowledge of the language."
Yes, then that would be the GIFT of tongues, not the baptism of the spirit. The GIFT of tongues is for edifying the body of Christ... like if God gave you it on the spot to speak in a country where you didn't know how to speak their language. The Lord would give you a GIFT of tongues in their language.
Speaking in the spirit is totally different as it only edifies yourself.
hmmm.. so I don't have the Holy Spirit then it seems like.
I got water baptized back in June of 2009, but it wasn't until about November/December of 2009 I realized I was a false convert. Almost immediately after my water baptism, I fell right back into a sinful life--as if I had changed at all really in the first place. Only a few sins had truly been given up..
Thanks for the response though, makes sense... now what do I do? just keep asking for the Holy Spirit? or find someone with It?
Oh, and I want to make it clear to you that once you are born again you receive the Holy Spirit into your heart.
However, the Holy Spirit baptism is a FILLING of the Holy Spirit into your entire being. You'll definitely notice a huge difference w/ your walk because you'll be given POWER from above (Acts 1:8).
Well, for me, I got truly saved when I got baptized in the spirit (testimony video).
But, I've laid hands on others and they've received the Holy Spirit baptism that way (tongues immediately) and just watching their growth you could see the POWER the Bible talks about.
For me, I had the most rare case scenario, but for others I've seen the difference AFTER they were born again.
god bless you
kickass883 3 weeks ago
It wouldn't let me post the link. I'd love to share it with you. If you're interested I can send it to you in a private message on youtube. Now let me see if I remember how to contact someone via youtube!!!
mrusso27 1 month ago
@nobodyspecial I think it's a great subject to talk about because it's one of the most asked about topic in God's word. You have to make your own decisions about what you believe in God's word and hopefully by witnessing it through more than one verse. Check out this link for an in depth study about tongues. Regardless of how you believe we can still be friends and agree to disagree.
mrusso27 1 month ago
I urge you to check out the meaning of tongues in the Greek.
Strong's Concordance
G1100
1) the tongue, a member of the body, an organ of speech
2) a tongue
a) the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations
It's talking about a foreign language, like German, Spanish, Italian, etc. Not some unknown babbling that can't be translated into an understandable sentence.
Have a great day!
mrusso27 2 months ago
@mrusso27 I love researching the letter just as much as any other believer, but things that are spiritual is only meant for those who are spiritual. You will never understand lest the Lord give you wisdom.
NobodySpecial85 1 month ago
@NobodySpecial85 I posted factual information on the meaning of the word tongues directly from the original language. I won't make any apologies for God's word to us, it is what it is. If God wanted us to speak in an unknown babble (confusion) He would have clearly stated so in his letter to us. Kindly and respectfully, if you would, please stick to the facts and do not judge the Holy Spirit within me as indeed, you judge God whilst doing so.
mrusso27 1 month ago
@mrusso27 Not judging you if you're not in sin. However, I am to judge all things (1Th 5:21) and I have a right to judge your fruit (Mat 7:20).
Like I said, I love researching the letter, but that which is of the spirit is only given by the spirit to be understood by the spirit of God (1Co 3:18-19).
NobodySpecial85 1 month ago
Okay i was enjoying the video, but can you clarify why you don`t believe in the trinitee?
Jesus told Philip, when you have seen the father youu have seen me.{St John 14:10.
Also when he resurrected, he promises the confronter which is the holy ghost.{St John 16:13}
bowiehs 1 year ago
@bowiehs That is the reason why. People think it's necessary, but it's not.
Jesus Christ is who I follow, not the trinity. Jesus Christ is my God, my Lord & my Savior.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
@NobodySpecial85 But it is necessary, without the holy ghost you have no power. Acts 1:8- Ye shall receive power after the holy ghost has come upon you,.
I am thrilled that you believe in Jesus, but to not believe in the holy spirit is fruitless. I follow Jesus too,but I believe in God and the holy spirit. Jesus says no man comes through the father but by me. There are many other scriptures too, if you want more just message me.
God bless you.
bowiehs 1 year ago
@bowiehs Well brother, I never said I did not believe in the Holy Spirit. I believe you misunderstood me. I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ as God & God's son, and the Holy Spirit which comes from God as it is His spirit.
And yes, I have already received the power of the Holy Spirit. I have healed the sick in Jesus' name and cast out real/actual demons in Jesus' name. His power is manifest in my life through the power of the Holy Spirit.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
@NobodySpecial85 I apologize sorry, I thought you were saying you did`nt believe. Well if that is the case, keep preaching the gospel bro, this world is dying but one whisper from Jesus can save many from hell!
bowiehs 1 year ago
People that do not believe in tongues are taught against it. To receive the Power of the Holy Spirit or the Baptism of the Holy Spirit you need to ask Jesus for it, just like you asked Him to Save you. doug
veraberry 1 year ago
john would you take a look at azsuperman01 youtube account and ask him for a skype interview i would like to see how you 2 talk it out ,,
uberhax0r1 1 year ago
@uberhax0r1
Oh, I don't have debates w/ people. I think it's ridiculous. Jesus Christ is Lord. I try to keep my faith very simple and as pure as possible... keeping away from doctrines other than Christ and Him crucified... the gospel.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
Just watched his video entitled "The Three Keys To Heaven" and believe him not to be truly born again.
There was no conviction of sin, righteousness, or judgment (John 16:8). If a person isn't speaking one of these three things, know he/she is not speaking from the Holy Spirit, but from their own understanding.
Christ Jesus bless you.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
He's also for homosexual marriage... which goes against 1Co 6:9-10... judging his fruits I do not believe him to be truly born again. I would stay away from that guy.
Christ Jesus bless you.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
Didn't know the Holy Spirit baptism was different from the water baptism.
If people get saved on believing in Christ and not the trinity then what is the purpose of the trinity including the Father and Holy Spirit?
Also, are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit all the same God or are they separate entities?
HaleyMary 1 year ago
@HaleyMary
You want the truth?
1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
That's why I do not believe in the trinity. Why put barriers on God? He is GOD! :D
This is what I focus on:
1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Christ Jesus bless you.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
...what do you think tongues is in itself?
I've heard different things, some believe it shouldn't even be going on anymore, as Paul says it will cease in scripture(1 Corinthians, before the 'love is' passage).
Some believe it's just utterance...
But from scripture, I see it more as speaking another language not known to others around as a testament to the Holy Spirit. something like me speaking Spanish to someone about the Gospel without knowledge of the language.
droptozro 1 year ago
@droptozro
When I get something from the Lord, I need to find it in scripture to see if it's of God or not.
The people who are against it don't have it, therefore don't listen to them.
1Co 13:8 is ONE VERSE and every Word is established by two or three witnesses (Mat 18:16 2Co 13:1) so even here they have no foundation.
When a person is baptized in the Holy Spirit you either receive tongues of men (most of the time, foreign country language) or tongues of angels (1Co 13:1). Paul spoke both.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
"something like me speaking Spanish to someone about the Gospel without knowledge of the language."
Yes, then that would be the GIFT of tongues, not the baptism of the spirit. The GIFT of tongues is for edifying the body of Christ... like if God gave you it on the spot to speak in a country where you didn't know how to speak their language. The Lord would give you a GIFT of tongues in their language.
Speaking in the spirit is totally different as it only edifies yourself.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
hmmm.. so I don't have the Holy Spirit then it seems like.
I got water baptized back in June of 2009, but it wasn't until about November/December of 2009 I realized I was a false convert. Almost immediately after my water baptism, I fell right back into a sinful life--as if I had changed at all really in the first place. Only a few sins had truly been given up..
Thanks for the response though, makes sense... now what do I do? just keep asking for the Holy Spirit? or find someone with It?
droptozro 1 year ago
@droptozro
Seek after God, He will guide your footsteps:
Jas 1:5 But if any of you lacketh wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to all liberally and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
Oh, and I want to make it clear to you that once you are born again you receive the Holy Spirit into your heart.
However, the Holy Spirit baptism is a FILLING of the Holy Spirit into your entire being. You'll definitely notice a huge difference w/ your walk because you'll be given POWER from above (Acts 1:8).
Christ Jesus bless you.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago
How did you notice? When did you noticed it happened with you?
droptozro 1 year ago
@droptozro
Well, for me, I got truly saved when I got baptized in the spirit (testimony video).
But, I've laid hands on others and they've received the Holy Spirit baptism that way (tongues immediately) and just watching their growth you could see the POWER the Bible talks about.
For me, I had the most rare case scenario, but for others I've seen the difference AFTER they were born again.
I pray that helped clear things up.
Christ Jesus bless you.
NobodySpecial85 1 year ago