He is clueless about cholesterol and has little knowlege of what our levels mean. Total cholesterol tells us nothing. With LDL it's the size of the protein not the number - which we can't test for in most of our civilian facilities. The only significant value we routinely obtain is HDL which has an inverse relationship with the small-dense subtypes of LDL. What drives up small-dense LDL-5, 6, and 7? CARBOHYDRATES. NOT SATURATED FAT. And the higher the HDL, the lower bad LDL. Look into it.
@ NiceGuyCody....I think you may have missed the part of this video which gived this man's background. He used to be a dairy farmer. He stopped this profession because of what he learned from his own studies. I would recommend you watch the video "Forks over Knives," a video that exhibits a wealth of information on this subject and reveals research and evidence that has been conducted world wide by dozens of medical professionals and researchers.where there is quite a bit of evidence
I became a vegan a little over one year ago. I can say that my energy level, mental abilities, skin clarity and hair have improved significantly. I started juicing vegetables a couple of weeks ago and I have noticed a major boost in energy. I use to think vegans were nuts but now that I've become one I see the benefits.
Veganism is a conspiracy to make people so weak and apathetic and concerned with food, that they have no energy to fight back and resist tyranny. Just my humble opinion, of course! LOL
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 How can that be true? Hehe.. if you under eat you have no energy that is true, but if you eat 3k calories as a daily minimum, (10 gr a day of carbs pr kilo...) get in 4 to 5 liters of water, and go to bed early.. you will overflow with energy and can take on any challege. :)
Anyway, I'll be the drone, even brainwashed...as if your opinion of me matters. Explain the blood work then, that I provided below. Why was I anemic and also lacking in certain vitamins while experimenting with a vegetarian diet?
These are some actual labs of mine on a partially vegetarian diet for the past month and half:
RBC cnt-4.03 low
HGB (hemoglobin)-12 (bare minimum)
HCT-36.5 low
WBC cnt-4.6 low
Fe-32 very low
That's ridiculous for an otherwise healthy person. I gave this crap a go, and it is NOT for me and I'm betting it's not for everybody either. If it works for you, good, but keep the claptrap pseudo science to yourselves because blood chemistry and how one fees does NOT lie.
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 What was your test test result beforehand? And you want to talk about pseudo science? Mainstream pro-meat talk by far has more pseudoscience.
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 You should eat more. Minimum 3000 calories for males, 10 gram pr kilo body weight or 5 gram pr pound. From whole foods, fruit is the best, bananas and dates. Try it for 10 days then see if your blood is within parameters. Durianrider have posted his bloodworks and they are all within the good zone.
@randomperson2606 Fuckin loser, you take the time to look for improper spelling? Its bad enough to spend all day reading these comments, but you take the time to tell someone they didnt spell correctly? Obviously you dont have a life.
I once heard that the way we have been treating cancers now (i.e., chemo and radiation) will one day be seen as barbaric. It is. Having been in the oncology industry for at least 12 years, I know it is not the way to do it. Thanks for being so bold to publish this and your bravery for educating us. You are a true hero. Thank you.
Oh well. I shall die happy and well fed. To the veeguns ready to bemoan "you wouldn't eat meat if you had to kill and prepare it yourself" LOL just dressed two deer in the garage last night and threw them in the deep freezer, of course, we left out a pack of fresh deer steaks to enjoy tonight. I do the whole juicing up raw veggies and fruits in a machine thing too, and I'm so sorry, even though that is invigorating, my body needs something MOAR than sticks and berries.
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 wow your smart you spelt more wrong and plus try hunting deer with your own two hands (with no technology, guns etc) you'll find that you're not able to becasue humans were not made to hunt and eat meat :-L
LOL I meant to spell it that way, so much is lost communicating via the internet. Anyway, since we are on grammar, it would be "wow, you're smart" not your. Why should I hunt a deer with my bare hands? I am a human. Remember, we made it out of the trees by using tools? Another thing, show me ONE herbivore in nature that farms his own vegetables and grains. Go on, I will wait...
@FathomlessJoy Oh, so thats what its all about, milk and meat is bad for us because you people dont like that fact that it comes from animals you think are treated bad? What, if milk and meat was produced in a lab and nothing had to die for it then you think it would be good?
@rawrebecca1979 People are sick because they eat shit. Everyone thinks its all milk and meat, but you ever think of the greasy ass junk foods that should never have been created? Yea, I know how people die from cancer, its because of all the shit in the world these days. So you dont have medical problems anymore? Sorry, your 1 out of millions, that does not make it bad.
@gf3030 "greasy ass junk foods " Agreed. Where does that grease in those foods come from? If you look around, look at it closely, saturated fat is stuffed into typical junk foods. Are the unsaturated fat alternatives much better? Maybe not, but at least in the meantime, while folks learn what is unhealthy for them in the plant world, they are not raping and torturing innocent sentient beings. Right? It is a win-win, no matter how you slice it. Peace.
@cheekyoziechick Why dont you wake up and realize that milk does not make us sick? Think of the billions of gallons sold consumed every day. If it was bad there would be a lot more people sick than there are. Just takes a little common scence to figure it out.
@gf3030 People ARE sick. Milk is linked to numerous cancers. Do you know how many people die of cancer? And why did I lose every medical problem I had after giving up milk and dairy? :)
The food makers do not care about our health. We have to research everything we eat. Wake up and realize that milk does make us sick. Leukemia..asthma..diabetes..cancer.. all linked to MILK. Take a stand now for the sake of your life!
He's not celebrated, hes been discredited across board. Vegan's are nutritional deficient. Go read The Vegetarian Myth and/or the Paleo Answer. Casein is not an animal protein, it's a dairy protein????
It's been demonstrated again and again that Campbell either mistakenly or deliberately produced numbers that didn't correspond with his own math. You're very much the person relying on incorrect information.
@NiceGuyCody "It's been demonstrated" By whom? Campbell is a top-notch scientist, with 50 years experience. The China Study was peer reviewed by hundreds of scientists and medical practitioners. It is the most comprehensive nutritional study humans have ever conducted. Campbell has the support and acclaim of cardiologists and health professionals the world over.
I don't want to convert anyone to this way of life. I just want people to know the truth, watch Forks over knives and see what you think. It has changed my way of eating and I feel wonderful. At Christmas my family couldn't believe my transformation and my sister already started it and loves it! If you don't like vegetables that much, vitamix them to a shake or smoothie?
Thinking about tribal cultures living off of the land, it really makes me wonder. They don't seem to have all of these degenerative diseases like we do, even though we have an abundance of protein, calcium & other vitamins/minerals available. They work their asses of to get ONE piece of meat. It's so special they share it amongst dozens of people. Most of their diets seem to be plant based. They eat to live, and not the other way around. Meanwhile, our cancer rates have soared since the 1950s.
I realize that most people who eat a good amount of meat will deny this information based on their own preferred tastes, conditioning and convenience. What a shame that the human mind cannot be objective enough to hear what is good for them :o/
Okay seriously commenters. These are simply facts. Interprete them as you will. Name calling and making stereotypical judgements are not a good form of argument, it only creates fallacy. America is unhealthy - that much is obvious. This diet has been around for thousands of years - it is not a "fad diet." It is not all hippies and monks in Thialand. Even ignoring the ethical and enviornmental reasons for consuming a plant-based diet, this video shows the facts about how it increases your health.
@haridham If you would actually read what I posted, you would see that I am PRO what the video is speaking of - I've admired Dr. Campbell for years. I have been 100% VEGAN for the last 10 years. I have done extensive research on the topic during that time and before, as well.
I read a few comments that talked about how all vegans are hippies and the like, and that the animals are raised for food anyway, so it is okay. I was mearly stating that they were wrong.
@peterxbug Actually I do know. I did read it. I was just hoping you would check out the link to the video. Perhaps check out my channel and subscribe. I admired what you stated. Thank you.
@peterxbug Thats ok, it happens. That deserves a subscription though. Also for punishment view my videos, like them, comment, share and subscribe. Please!
@Darryl090886 Yea, I know what im saying. I take it your one of those people that belives everything you hear. Science says it true so it must be? That is bullshit. Like I said before, just because a scientist said so, does not mean the are right.
No species on earth, now or in the past, has ever consumed another species' milk. Likewise no species on earth, both now or in the past, has ever consumed milk of its mother's past the age of weening. We do. The problem with dairy is that it is acidic (contains too much of the acidic forming amino acids) and is also mucous forming. And we know there are problems associated with dairy intolerances etc.
@sqeye Just because science says so does not mean its right. Kind of hard to prove something is bad when millions of people do it and nothing happens. I think scientist should stop spreading out there "therorys" from there dumb ass studies, and start looking at what really happens. Thats were the real proof is.
@Dumbfounded113 First off, if milk was poison to humans, we would die or be very sick from drinking it. Now, you say too much protein leeches the calcium off our bones? Were do you come up with this bullshit?
@gf3030 It's science, you know… clinical trials and that kind of work. It's a little different to what passes as Nutricianal advisory groups which take big donations from Diary industry. Opera Winfrey was due to have Campbell appear on her show but then she personally vetoed his appearance. As Campbell points out in "The China Study", O magazine has at least 10 full page ads for dairy products per issue, that's a conservative $1M per issue of influence and that's just one magazine.
@gf3030 Do you know how many people are lactose intolerant???? The mere fact that a large percent of out population can't digest milk and dairy properly is startling.
Maybe we're not supposed to drink something that's meant for baby animals?
@firehead2591 Exactly. It's made to turn a small calf into a 1,000 pound cow. It's not meant for humans, or any other animal. Dairy creates a mucus in our pipes, which cancer cells feed upon. Since I have taken dairy out of my diet, I no longer have "post nasal drip," which made me cough constantly. I also sleep better and no longer have migraines.
"Do you know how many people are lactose intolerant???? The mere fact that a large percent of out population can't digest milk and dairy properly is startling."
What a stupid argument. That's like saying, because there are people out there allergic to nuts and vegetables, NOBODY should eat either.
@FathomlessJoy You do your own research in life? You mean you have seen first hand what happens? I take it you never visited the feedlots and dairies here in the US. I know several people who manage these places and its nothing like what you described.
@gf3030 "You mean you have seen first hand what happens" Of course. Why do you think I dropped all animal products from my diet? B/c I hated cheese? Nope. I loved cheese, I was as addicted to it as you are. I wanted to know the truth of this, so I looked deep in myself, my body, my mind, my heart and saw the truth of it: torturing and raping animals is indecent. Eating animal carcass, eating hen's menstruations and drinking bovine pus are unhealthy, unnatural.
@gf3030 "I take it you never visited the feedlots and dairies here in the US." LOL The US the worst, by far. Absolute sickness and evil. Check out Earthlings if you want to know the truth. watch?v=FHA4HNbmDLg
@gf3030 We could start with the basic direct observation that it is cruel and digusting to beat a calf out of the way, kneel down in the feces and unrine and suck from a momma cow's teats. Right? Also, it is cruel and unhealthy to take that calf and torture it then slaughter it, so that the month here on Earth all it knows is the oppressive, selfish brutality of man. I do my own research in life ;)
i would never give cow's milk to a baby or toddler.. the research now is clear.. it should not be consumed by humans, even though the dairy council wants you to believe otherwise.
Correction: protein in milk is better digested by the infant body, that's why it doesn't matter if 65% of human milk is casein. 80% of adults are lacto intolerant, most do not know it. Unless you are anything but the baby of the cow it is a bad idea to be sucking on a cow's boobs. Can you imagine a baby who does not yet know how to eat meat to run after animals when it is hungry? This is not in your genes or instincts, you are told how to do that and you are now used to it.
Pretty much anything can cause cancer, sunlight can cause skin cancer, sleeping next to someone can cause cancer (radiation, yes search it up), but we still do all these things because they bring pleasure to our lives. I'll continue eating my meat. Animal rights? Animals eat animals too. Convince a lion to become vegan and I might follow.
For at least twelve years, I had suffered from numerous stomach problems. All of the stomach problems have completely vanished, since I stopped drinking cow milk. Therefore, I am much happier without cow milk, as you might understand.
@lovebigboobs29 Sure, but education a powerful thing. Just because the parents say, "F*** it, I don;'t want to hear it and I don't care, you have to die of something...," does not mean the offspring will be as lazy and stupid, right? My parent were both meat eaters, and I am not, nor is my son. Mom died of lung cancer, but dad is now about 60% raw under my coaching. Some of the species are smart enuf to learn ;)
I am thriving just fine on my own meal plan. Very happy doing so like I said not everyone sees your guys point of view nor wants a plant based lifestyle. I will never and yes I said never will convert. My favorite food is chicken or shrimp. A great steak every once in awhile.
@lovebigboobs29 No shit. The vegans are just mad because we kill animals for food. Most of them are animal rights activist, so they come up with all these lies to try to brainwash us into beliving meat is bad.
How did a nutcase like this become a professor. He knows not a damn thing about Nutrition. For all you idiots who buy in this and try claiming we were once Apes. You are fucking retards!! We are 100% meant to consume both meat and plants. It is healthy for us to consume both. In real science this has been proven not from these vegan nutjobs. Try google once in awhile or go see a real dietician or nutritionlist!
Why do we have to cook meat then? And we have molars and digestive enzymes in our saliva to break down cellulose. And our closest relatives in nature don't eat meat. Primates are the only mammals who can see colour and have eyes on the front of our head - we're build as herbivores. Could you kill a deer with your bare hands? We're not designed to hunt. Maybe you could bite the head off a chicken, but you sure wouldn't eat it. And milk is a no-brainer. It's baby cow food, hands down.
@faerieguts We are Omnivore humans and are not made the same as animals. Our build is 100% for eating both meat and plants. We aren't the same as Apes either you evolution nutjob. We have guns so why kill one with out bare hands. Like I said we are humans and not animals so thats why we have no claws. We are 100% designed to hunt. Dairy is healthy as hell so you're whole statement makes you look retarded.
@lovebigboobs29 Can you explain dietary habits without using a completely anthropocentric judeo-Christian hierarchy as your sole evidence? You just sound like your have repressed rage against your Big Mac.
@faerieguts We have always eaten meat since the beginning of us. People live to be old eating a meat and plant diet. Its the junk food aka Candy and chips and fried foods all the time and fast food that hurts people. BTW your big mac comment is not very bright. I don't consume fast food.
@lovebigboobs29 You can't talk about "the beginning of us" without looking at evolution and our biology. The tools with which we hunt came about because of migrating to climates other than the one which we evolved in. And living to "be old" isn't the same as being healthy and happy.
@faerieguts I sure can because we didn't evolve from an ape. We started as human but evolved into the humans we are today. My grandparent are in their 90's and very healthy and happy. So yes you can be old healthy and happy as an omnivore.
@lovebigboobs29 But you do know that there was a time that man did not have guns, did not have tools, did not have fire, right? We also did not have rotting flesh sections of the local supermarket to by dead animal pieces. Before these things, how was man, who clearly could not be a carnivore today, able to live off of dead animal carcass?
@FathomlessJoy Fire was invented close to the beginning as were weapons. He had no choice then but to eat plants. But they started eating meat and it helped them to develope more mentally and physically. People can survive and live long on both an omnivore and vegan diet. Not everyone wants to not eat animal products. If veganism works for you then thats cool but its not for me and billions of others whom choose another lifestyle. Fast food isn't the way tho lol
@lovebigboobs29 "develope more mentally and physically" Don't look now, kid, but you just make the argument for evolution ;) Call it whatever name makes you feel happy inside, but that is what evolution is. Sorry.
@lovebigboobs29 Ok, so you do see that there's evolution. Because first you frothed at the mouth that it wasn't true. Now that you seem to have calmed down, perhaps then you can see my point. Charles Darwin, while perhaps not correct about everything or very much, the man knew sooo much fucking more about evolution than you know about big boobs. Way more dude! So, strange you claim man evolved into eating meat, and evolved further because of eating it, yet you ignore a very learned man's view.
@FathomlessJoy Because his form of evolution said we evolved from apes. Not that man just evolved over time mentally and physically. Sure we dont look like cave dwellers any more and now have technology and we shower with soap and use a toilet. That kind of evolution is a fact. Ok I am dont 100% if we evolved better from eating it but we have definately been able to eat it and such and have no problems. Until McDonalds pops up on every corner and all the junk food out there.
@lovebigboobs29 Right, evolved mentally and physically. Our brains and bodies have evolved. Now, how do you explain that "man like" but also very "ape like" skeletons that have been found? They weren't physically evolved like us today, but they weren't all ape either. We are talking a process of millions of years, btw, so the form and characteristics of man that long ago would be much different, right? That is all Darwin said really, in a nut shell.
@FathomlessJoy I would say yes. We have learned alot over the years and devoloped stuff. Invented stuff which helped mold our minds and bodies to what we are today. We were Ape like I guess but not evolved from them. We didn't do much more then grunt LOL and no razor I am sure so very very hairy people :) Plus I am sure they stunk like hell.
@lovebigboobs29 Agreed! I don't eat the crap. But man took bad turns in his evolution, which have led us right here with McDs, cheetos, and oreos. Man's mind, while evolved to learn mathematics, is actually warped and has been for tens of thousands of years. Man exploits and profits, and he destroys his environment, he enslaves or destroys all the Earth creatures, and even his fellow man. Man even detroys his own body with oreos. Something is wrong in man's evolution; time to figure it out, LBB!
@FathomlessJoy Well I am a meat eater so I dont disagree with eating meat. But I disagree with the factory farming system/abuse there. I disagree with the anti-biotics and chemicles pumped into the animals and so forth. I am not going to say that occasionally I dont enjoy a few cheetoes or oreos but eating it like its air to breathe in not healthy. McDonalds well I can understand food to go Fast but why make it with the most unhealthiest meat and stuff.
@lovebigboobs29 I would not touch and oreo if you paid me, for real. But I not perfect, I have a weakness for PB&J sandwiches - but with All Fruit jelly, fresh ground peanut butter, on whole grain bread. So I understand spluging a bit here and there. McDs is just a symptom.
I think we need to look deeper to find the source of the problem. But we don't need to look at man 100000 years ago or even look at any other man today. It is inside of us, that is where the answer is.
@FathomlessJoy Well if its giving up meat and such then I am out. But I am sure there is a better way of doing things then they do them now. I cant say I haven't eaten oreos before but very moderately same with cheetoes. Haven't had any in awhile tho but they are tasty.
@lovebigboobs29 Conclusion impedes observation. I would not limit myself to a world of possibilities just yet. If you would have told me the morning I woke up a year ago that I would be a vegan that day, I would've laughed, not too loud or long, but laughed nonetheless. It's an incredible journey of miraculous health and happiness, and each day is something new, and it all starts when that barrier of "I would never do this or that" falls.
@FathomlessJoy No you can trust my words I will always consume meat and animal products. I am not in any way interested in being vegan. I love my life as is.
@lovebigboobs29 Enjoy your happy life when you cannot find a fresh glass of drinking water, or breath in unpoisoned air. See, guy, it is all interconnected. There is no true happiness in the one while the whole is in chaos. Open those eyes and look around. Life is more than personal gratification.
@FathomlessJoy The area I live in is almost country. Plenty of fresh air and clean water. Well maybe you want to concern yourself with everyone else. Not saying thats bad just I am not going to stress over it. No slaughter houses near me or anything and my water doesn't come from the polluted areas of water. Well its been nice talking to you but I dont want to argue about this all day. I am going to go enjoy my day and have a cook-out! Take care!
@lovebigboobs29 Well that is fine for you for a while. It is a shame that someone so smart and capable would limit themselves to such selfishness. Hopefully for you no one will pollute your water.... Oh, wait a minute! There is actually a single water source for the entire world. That your petty little part of the world seems fine so long as you keep you corner real small, which you seem to be good at. Take care!
@FathomlessJoy Actually there are also things called Well Water which is popular in the country that doesn't come from the so called single water source for the world :) Thats what we have and its alot cleaner and tastier. You can call me selfish all I want it doesn't bother me. I am happy and I am not going to change. Don't tell me you believe in that Global Warming nonsense too?
@lovebigboobs29 LOL. It seems like you are working hard in your mind to convince yourself and me that you are not a connected part of this planet, connected by water, air, species to everyone else. Why struggle so much, go eat your carcinogenic rotting flesh ;)
@FathomlessJoy I'm not struggling and also meat isn't rotted flesh. Its flesh yes but it takes awhile to rot. ince thats why we refrigerate it and freeze it. Refrigerating it slows it down thats why meat is good for bout 4 or 5 days in fridge and when you freeze it its good for months. Its not rotted when we eat it. Just thought you should know nthe facts :)
@lovebigboobs29 Just seems like you frantically come up with childish argument after childish argument as to why you don't have to take action. That's all. But yeah, you live in that remote isolated section of the planet with that subspecies that is not part of humanity. Riiiiiight! ;)
@FathomlessJoy This planet will out last us and our kids and grandkids and generation and generation more with no problem. Vegans are just scared is all. Brainwashed by the videos or the global warming freaks to think the planet is going to hell.
@lovebigboobs29 Ah, so now we have moved form archeological and evolutionary expert to great wizard who predicts the future ;) But really, if you think that polluted water and air is not a problem, live it up! keep you head in the sand! Have a ball! That or you can join the species.
@FathomlessJoy I will be fine and enjoy my life. Actually most of the species eat animal products and meat LOL So I have joined them :). The water isn't polluted everywhere. Maybe right where the slaughter houses are and where the oil spill happened but with technology we will be fine. The air I breathe everyday is not polluted all I smell is fresh air :) I will never move downtown or LA LOL
@lovebigboobs29 Now you are back to bubble boy, living in isolation, as if your water and air from this Earth is seperate and special. Very narrow minded. And yet on the other hand you quote "most of the species" hehe. Which is it? Are you isolated or part of the whole? Or do you pick and choose to support whatever argument you want next?
@FathomlessJoy If there was any real harm from not being vegan since it would affect people in the government as well they would have fixed it already. They would have the animal waste put somewhere else. The environmental crisis thing is just a sham. For vegans its trying to convert others, For the government its to make more money off some fake bullshit taxes. I am not stupid I know its all BS. Starving people in other countries because of meat production?? Thats another joke.
@lovebigboobs29 Actually, if one is not cut off in their own little isolated world, we see that everyone is saying stop eating meat! Everyone, doctors, the government, nutritionists, environmentalists, etc say stop eating it. It's linked to cancer, heart disease, etc. Well they don't say stop altogether, but slow WAY down, which is a lazy way to avoid stopping something by pretending to stop. Where have you been? Ah, you have been in your own little world. Enjoy your cookout, chief ;)
@FathomlessJoy No they aren't I know both doctors and nutritionlists and even dieticians. They say the opposite and to moderate red meat to twice a week but eat more chicken and fish. They dont even say slow down. Where have you been?? Vegan fantasy land?
@lovebigboobs29 Nope they say "stop" in fact Bill Clinton did. It's catching on, people are learning. That "moderation" thing is so that brain dead fattys eating carcinogenic bloody burgers out of the fire will keep buying it in the meantime. Nothing every changes in moderation, dude. Everyone says stop the meat and eat fruits and veggies, 9 servings per day! But who are you fooling, you have been doing this since you were a chubby babe, you know best, you stuff down as much as you can, OK? LOL
@FathomlessJoy No they aren't saying STOP only the vegans are. Bill Clinton was a McDonalds junkie is the only reason he was in bad health. He admitted that he went almost daily. If he would have quit McDonalds would have been fine. No one says stop the meats they say eat a balanced meal with lean meant along with fruits and veggies. I was never a chubby baby nor am I chubby now. Like I said I have medical professionals in my family whom disagree with the vegan diet.
@FathomlessJoy Dude, brother was the president of the free world and had the best food avialable to him of any man on the planet. The Mcdonalds thing was a gimmick in the press. I could not stand the man, personally, but he, like tens of millions of others fell victim to heart disease on the standard american diet. good news is he is reversing it with raw fruits and veggies. The human body, like the planet, is miraculous, so long as we treat it decently, otherwise it is a sewer.
@lovebigboobs29 You too man! Last thing: don't you know about the carcinogenic agents created when you grill rotting flesh? Hmmm. Search on HCAs and PAHs before that cookout, these form form meat over fire and change the DNA in your body's cells. Look it up. You may want to find a different "food" LOL.
@FathomlessJoy LOL I will take my chances. Been eating grilled meat since I was a toddler so I don't believe everything I read. There's always someone typing articles about meat this and cooking meat that. Doesn't worry me in the least bit.
@lovebigboobs29 "toddler so I don't believe everything I read" Funny you were just asking for information that proves what I say. Great thing about facts, bubble boy, you don't have to believe them. But perhaps you will stay a tottler in health forever, who knows....
@FathomlessJoy Even if meat was bad for me which it isn't well ya don't live forever. Atleast I enjoy what I eat. I am not a fan of just eating plants.
@lovebigboobs29 I want to thrive, not just survive. What if you kids started smoking and said, "F you, dad, ya don't live forever?" LOL I think now you may have an idea of what it is like reading arguments. Still seems strange, why argue at all? You have a good bead on things!
@FathomlessJoy I wouldn't be happy if they started smoking but its not the same thing as meat. Its not like I could prevent them from smoking if they really wanted it just lecture them. Meat isn't smoking tho so no its not the same thing.
@lovebigboobs29 Sure, my point was, however, that you would slap the cigarettes out of their idiot hands and say, "That is the most lame, childish, lazy excuse to throw your health and life away." Course if they are teens they may slap you back. See the point? you would not even tolerate the logic of "have do die of something" from a child.
@FathomlessJoy Even when the fast food chains first were developed it wasn't bad. But they start cutting corners getting cheaper products and such for more profits and thats when it turned to hell.
@lovebigboobs29 "thats when it turned to hell." LOL That's is what man has said forever. Think about it, it's what our fathers said, it's what our grandfathers said, it's what their grandfathers said. The only one who can solve this is each one of us. Each of us must look into our mind and hearts and see what is real, not what it "used to be" or what it "could be tomorrow" not what others say it "should be", but what it actually is. That's how we change the world, by transforming ourselves.
@FathomlessJoy I don't see why I should transform myself. I am fine and healthy. Like I said I consume meat and don't agree with everyone giving up that. I am transformed already into whom I plan on being and am happy with that.
@lovebigboobs29 That is looking at life in a short sighted, self-centered way, right? Observe mankind as a whole, the state of this world, and tell me it does not need to be radically transformed.
Your whole outlook on life is centered on the mistaken notion that there is such a thing as individual happiness for man. I recommend you examine this notion, in context of the totality of autrocities in the world, and see if it is in fact imaginary.
@FathomlessJoy No its not imaginery. I am very happy with the way my life is. Sorry you don't see things the same way. But like I said before I am not interested in changing my lifestyle. What happens everywhere else in the world doesn't affect how I feel. I do not agree at all we should all go vegan or anything like that. I believe we should live our lives the way that makes us happy. I dont believe the world needs to be radically transformed. There are lots of happy people.
@FathomlessJoy We should be happy for whom we are. Not stress about the whole world. Its the governments job to stress about their countries or the world. I am happy in my life and not going to stress about everywhere else. I have a great family and friends,good job,nice home and we are healthy. There are charities and such designed to help those in need if they would accept the help. You stress about the world you will go crazy. Thats my philosophy. I am very happy in my own life.
@maddie4229 If humans are designed to eat grains and plants more than meat. Then can you explain why humans produce the acids to break down meat but not celulose and fiber found in plants? Sounds like we are designed more for eating meat.
@gf3030 We are definately designed to eat meats. These vegans are on some agenda trying to brainwash people. Some people are weak minded and actually believe this garbage. We are Omnivores
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human beings are genetically designed to primarily eat grains and plant matter (as evidenced by our large number of flat molar teeth); yes, meat is also a part of our natural diet - but only in very small quantities! The level of meat that developed nations consume is in no way healthy, for the environment, for the welfare of livestock and for ourselves. Yes, the animal kingdom is harsh and often cruel - that does not mean that we are given license to act in the same way.
@decadyne Humans evolved to eat animal corpses? Actually, the father of evolution study disagrees with you: "The grading of forms, organic functions, customs and diets showed in an evident way that the normal food of man is vegetable like the anthropoids and apes and that our canine teeth are less developed than theirs and that we are not destined to compete with wild beasts or carnivorous animals." ~ Charles Darwin
I'm sure you know a lot about evolution, but my money's on Chuck ;)
@decadyne Corpse means dead body, right? The body starts to rot the second the heart stops. Thus you eat rotting corpse, right? Carnivores love that their meals are rotten; I'm not sure why you protest.
It seems your argument is with yourself and Charles Darwin, not with me, right? Darwin likely knew far more about evolution than you, and certainly more about it than I. All I know is that I and hundreds of millions of vegans prove Darwin right and you wrong every day. Can you explain that?
@decadyne Now you offer weak opinions in an emotional manner. See "beef" is the language of deceit, "cow corpse" is the language of truth. I no longer use your language. That you cannot face what these things actually are should reveal more to you than any argument you advance against evolution and Darwin. If you claim he's wrong, prove it! Prove him wrong! Plus, if he missed something so fundamental what else did he get wrong? Seems like your best served to set your scientific ducks in a row ;)
@decadyne Ah, now the hate and cursing. I see, you just would rather be cruel to humans and cattle is your stepping stone. Good luck with that cause I've argued before senators, scientists and judges, all flaming mad; I am not going to back down because baby knows a bad word and froths at the mouth ;)
@decadyne And yet every morning I wake up I prove you wrong, right? See I prove every moment of my life that man thives on a plant based diet. Meanwhile people on your diet are dropping like flies. You are betting against a sure thing ;)
Moreover, I prove Charles Darwin right every day when he wrote that humans have evolved to optimally consume a vegan diet.
I cannot apologize for your hate and anger, but yet I still wish it was not so.
@decadyne And now folks we have a complete breakdown in discussion as the cruel rotting flesh eater launches into full personal attack against his fellow human. Strange, your behavior is rather like a religious zealot, right? What's next, blow yourself up at a vegan seance? ROFL.
@decadyne BTW: both a good scientist and a good student ask questions; when presented with something to study, they examine, observe, learn. It seems you have an awful lot to learn about both science and study. Peace.
@decadyne Its been a pleasure. I hope you consider the truth I've revealed to you here. Next time bring more facts and evidence and learning, and less fighting, cursing, and frothing. Adieu.
@decadyne Now you are just parroting. First the pseudo-science, then the cussing and hateful names, then the ranting about irrelevance, now you just parrot things. Strange way rotting flesh eaters try to justify the indefensible these days. And usually when you say "ciao" it means they are going to leave. You keep storming out, then storming back in to tell me you are storming out. LOL. Schizophrenic much?
I understand you have been lied to, you feel betrayed and alone, but I am here to help.
@decadyne Says the "scientist" who could not stop name calling and cussing and hysterically foaming at the mouth from the first comment. Listen, like I said, argue the science with Mr. Darwin. I am not in his league. Let me know who wins. I on the other hand will continue to eat a 100% healthy, fully optimal, 0% cruelty diet for health and happiness, and thus continue to save the planet and the aminals, and change the world. Peace!
@FathomlessJoy Screw changing the world. I love meat and don't care about the cruelty. Its also healthy as well. Darwin was a moron with his theories.
He is clueless about cholesterol and has little knowlege of what our levels mean. Total cholesterol tells us nothing. With LDL it's the size of the protein not the number - which we can't test for in most of our civilian facilities. The only significant value we routinely obtain is HDL which has an inverse relationship with the small-dense subtypes of LDL. What drives up small-dense LDL-5, 6, and 7? CARBOHYDRATES. NOT SATURATED FAT. And the higher the HDL, the lower bad LDL. Look into it.
BenTheThird 1 day ago
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kataliktic 1 week ago
@ NiceGuyCody....I think you may have missed the part of this video which gived this man's background. He used to be a dairy farmer. He stopped this profession because of what he learned from his own studies. I would recommend you watch the video "Forks over Knives," a video that exhibits a wealth of information on this subject and reveals research and evidence that has been conducted world wide by dozens of medical professionals and researchers.where there is quite a bit of evidence
kataliktic 1 week ago
I became a vegan a little over one year ago. I can say that my energy level, mental abilities, skin clarity and hair have improved significantly. I started juicing vegetables a couple of weeks ago and I have noticed a major boost in energy. I use to think vegans were nuts but now that I've become one I see the benefits.
mkaylag 2 weeks ago
Veganism is a conspiracy to make people so weak and apathetic and concerned with food, that they have no energy to fight back and resist tyranny. Just my humble opinion, of course! LOL
SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 How can that be true? Hehe.. if you under eat you have no energy that is true, but if you eat 3k calories as a daily minimum, (10 gr a day of carbs pr kilo...) get in 4 to 5 liters of water, and go to bed early.. you will overflow with energy and can take on any challege. :)
Mekelsior 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 Heheh sorry bro...still sleepy, didn`t see it was you.. sorry for the doubble post :p
Mekelsior 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 But have a look at the video in the sade about Shaolin monks :)
Mekelsior 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 you are a brainwashed drone.
donttrustany1 5 days ago
@donttrustany1
Once you taste a properly cooked deer steak, you will never look back. LOL.
SuburbanoidMisfit111 5 days ago
@donttrustany1
Anyway, I'll be the drone, even brainwashed...as if your opinion of me matters. Explain the blood work then, that I provided below. Why was I anemic and also lacking in certain vitamins while experimenting with a vegetarian diet?
SuburbanoidMisfit111 5 days ago
These are some actual labs of mine on a partially vegetarian diet for the past month and half:
RBC cnt-4.03 low
HGB (hemoglobin)-12 (bare minimum)
HCT-36.5 low
WBC cnt-4.6 low
Fe-32 very low
That's ridiculous for an otherwise healthy person. I gave this crap a go, and it is NOT for me and I'm betting it's not for everybody either. If it works for you, good, but keep the claptrap pseudo science to yourselves because blood chemistry and how one fees does NOT lie.
SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111
feels...before the grammar polizei show back up. -_-
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asnoethias 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 What was your test test result beforehand? And you want to talk about pseudo science? Mainstream pro-meat talk by far has more pseudoscience.
asnoethias 2 weeks ago
@asnoethias
Each value was within the normal range upon my last blood chemistry test one year ago, when I was eating normally.
SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 How many calories did you eat?
Mekelsior 2 weeks ago
@Mekelsior
2,000 per day.
SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 You should eat more. Minimum 3000 calories for males, 10 gram pr kilo body weight or 5 gram pr pound. From whole foods, fruit is the best, bananas and dates. Try it for 10 days then see if your blood is within parameters. Durianrider have posted his bloodworks and they are all within the good zone.
Mekelsior 2 weeks ago
@randomperson2606 Fuckin loser, you take the time to look for improper spelling? Its bad enough to spend all day reading these comments, but you take the time to tell someone they didnt spell correctly? Obviously you dont have a life.
gf3030 2 weeks ago
I once heard that the way we have been treating cancers now (i.e., chemo and radiation) will one day be seen as barbaric. It is. Having been in the oncology industry for at least 12 years, I know it is not the way to do it. Thanks for being so bold to publish this and your bravery for educating us. You are a true hero. Thank you.
ellexusse 2 weeks ago
Oh well. I shall die happy and well fed. To the veeguns ready to bemoan "you wouldn't eat meat if you had to kill and prepare it yourself" LOL just dressed two deer in the garage last night and threw them in the deep freezer, of course, we left out a pack of fresh deer steaks to enjoy tonight. I do the whole juicing up raw veggies and fruits in a machine thing too, and I'm so sorry, even though that is invigorating, my body needs something MOAR than sticks and berries.
SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 weeks ago
@SuburbanoidMisfit111 wow your smart you spelt more wrong and plus try hunting deer with your own two hands (with no technology, guns etc) you'll find that you're not able to becasue humans were not made to hunt and eat meat :-L
randomperson2606 2 weeks ago
@randomperson2606
LOL I meant to spell it that way, so much is lost communicating via the internet. Anyway, since we are on grammar, it would be "wow, you're smart" not your. Why should I hunt a deer with my bare hands? I am a human. Remember, we made it out of the trees by using tools? Another thing, show me ONE herbivore in nature that farms his own vegetables and grains. Go on, I will wait...
SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 weeks ago
@FathomlessJoy Oh, so thats what its all about, milk and meat is bad for us because you people dont like that fact that it comes from animals you think are treated bad? What, if milk and meat was produced in a lab and nothing had to die for it then you think it would be good?
gf3030 2 weeks ago
@rawrebecca1979 People are sick because they eat shit. Everyone thinks its all milk and meat, but you ever think of the greasy ass junk foods that should never have been created? Yea, I know how people die from cancer, its because of all the shit in the world these days. So you dont have medical problems anymore? Sorry, your 1 out of millions, that does not make it bad.
gf3030 3 weeks ago
@gf3030 "greasy ass junk foods " Agreed. Where does that grease in those foods come from? If you look around, look at it closely, saturated fat is stuffed into typical junk foods. Are the unsaturated fat alternatives much better? Maybe not, but at least in the meantime, while folks learn what is unhealthy for them in the plant world, they are not raping and torturing innocent sentient beings. Right? It is a win-win, no matter how you slice it. Peace.
FathomlessJoy 2 weeks ago
@cheekyoziechick Why dont you wake up and realize that milk does not make us sick? Think of the billions of gallons sold consumed every day. If it was bad there would be a lot more people sick than there are. Just takes a little common scence to figure it out.
gf3030 3 weeks ago
@gf3030 People ARE sick. Milk is linked to numerous cancers. Do you know how many people die of cancer? And why did I lose every medical problem I had after giving up milk and dairy? :)
rawrebecca1979 3 weeks ago
@gf3030 takes a little more common sense to spell sense right douche -.-
randomperson2606 2 weeks ago
The food makers do not care about our health. We have to research everything we eat. Wake up and realize that milk does make us sick. Leukemia..asthma..diabetes..cancer.. all linked to MILK. Take a stand now for the sake of your life!
cheekyoziechick 4 weeks ago 3
He's not celebrated, hes been discredited across board. Vegan's are nutritional deficient. Go read The Vegetarian Myth and/or the Paleo Answer. Casein is not an animal protein, it's a dairy protein????
Tailflap 4 weeks ago
@Tailflap ALL dairy is considered an animal protein. And he has not been discredited across the board. Your information is very much incorrect.
rawrebecca1979 3 weeks ago
@rawrebecca1979
It's been demonstrated again and again that Campbell either mistakenly or deliberately produced numbers that didn't correspond with his own math. You're very much the person relying on incorrect information.
NiceGuyCody 3 weeks ago
@NiceGuyCody Can you please produce this evidence? Thanks :)
rawrebecca1979 3 weeks ago
@NiceGuyCody "It's been demonstrated" By whom? Campbell is a top-notch scientist, with 50 years experience. The China Study was peer reviewed by hundreds of scientists and medical practitioners. It is the most comprehensive nutritional study humans have ever conducted. Campbell has the support and acclaim of cardiologists and health professionals the world over.
FathomlessJoy 2 weeks ago
I don't want to convert anyone to this way of life. I just want people to know the truth, watch Forks over knives and see what you think. It has changed my way of eating and I feel wonderful. At Christmas my family couldn't believe my transformation and my sister already started it and loves it! If you don't like vegetables that much, vitamix them to a shake or smoothie?
dumanator1 1 month ago
Thinking about tribal cultures living off of the land, it really makes me wonder. They don't seem to have all of these degenerative diseases like we do, even though we have an abundance of protein, calcium & other vitamins/minerals available. They work their asses of to get ONE piece of meat. It's so special they share it amongst dozens of people. Most of their diets seem to be plant based. They eat to live, and not the other way around. Meanwhile, our cancer rates have soared since the 1950s.
agrv8ion 1 month ago
I realize that most people who eat a good amount of meat will deny this information based on their own preferred tastes, conditioning and convenience. What a shame that the human mind cannot be objective enough to hear what is good for them :o/
kataliktic 1 month ago 7
@kataliktic More like because that it's anti-science Animal Rights propaganda which has been roundly refuted by medical scientists like Harriet Hall.
NiceGuyCody 3 weeks ago
@kataliktic LALALALALA
I can't hear you!
LALALALALA
123gwf 2 weeks ago
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haridham 1 month ago
Okay seriously commenters. These are simply facts. Interprete them as you will. Name calling and making stereotypical judgements are not a good form of argument, it only creates fallacy. America is unhealthy - that much is obvious. This diet has been around for thousands of years - it is not a "fad diet." It is not all hippies and monks in Thialand. Even ignoring the ethical and enviornmental reasons for consuming a plant-based diet, this video shows the facts about how it increases your health.
peterxbug 1 month ago
@peterxbug Does eating meat limit your thinking? video!/watch?v=jdCJ2Zd7Apw
haridham 1 month ago
@haridham If you would actually read what I posted, you would see that I am PRO what the video is speaking of - I've admired Dr. Campbell for years. I have been 100% VEGAN for the last 10 years. I have done extensive research on the topic during that time and before, as well.
I read a few comments that talked about how all vegans are hippies and the like, and that the animals are raised for food anyway, so it is okay. I was mearly stating that they were wrong.
peterxbug 3 weeks ago
@peterxbug Actually I do know. I did read it. I was just hoping you would check out the link to the video. Perhaps check out my channel and subscribe. I admired what you stated. Thank you.
haridham 3 weeks ago
@haridham
Whoops, seems I quickly misjudged your comment as I thought you did mine - I thought you were asking me if eating meat limited my thinking, haha
peterxbug 3 weeks ago
@peterxbug Thats ok, it happens. That deserves a subscription though. Also for punishment view my videos, like them, comment, share and subscribe. Please!
haridham 3 weeks ago
@Darryl090886 Yea, I know what im saying. I take it your one of those people that belives everything you hear. Science says it true so it must be? That is bullshit. Like I said before, just because a scientist said so, does not mean the are right.
gf3030 1 month ago
No species on earth, now or in the past, has ever consumed another species' milk. Likewise no species on earth, both now or in the past, has ever consumed milk of its mother's past the age of weening. We do. The problem with dairy is that it is acidic (contains too much of the acidic forming amino acids) and is also mucous forming. And we know there are problems associated with dairy intolerances etc.
PattyGilMo 2 months ago
@PattyGilMo cats do...so only cats and humans
bridget783 2 months ago
@bridget783 Only because the humans fed it to them, really.
peterxbug 1 month ago
@sqeye Just because science says so does not mean its right. Kind of hard to prove something is bad when millions of people do it and nothing happens. I think scientist should stop spreading out there "therorys" from there dumb ass studies, and start looking at what really happens. Thats were the real proof is.
gf3030 2 months ago
@gf3030 dude...that's the whole point of science...do you know what you're saying?
Darryl090886 1 month ago
@Dumbfounded113 First off, if milk was poison to humans, we would die or be very sick from drinking it. Now, you say too much protein leeches the calcium off our bones? Were do you come up with this bullshit?
gf3030 2 months ago
@gf3030 It's science, you know… clinical trials and that kind of work. It's a little different to what passes as Nutricianal advisory groups which take big donations from Diary industry. Opera Winfrey was due to have Campbell appear on her show but then she personally vetoed his appearance. As Campbell points out in "The China Study", O magazine has at least 10 full page ads for dairy products per issue, that's a conservative $1M per issue of influence and that's just one magazine.
sqeye 2 months ago
@gf3030 Do you know how many people are lactose intolerant???? The mere fact that a large percent of out population can't digest milk and dairy properly is startling.
Maybe we're not supposed to drink something that's meant for baby animals?
firehead2591 1 month ago 15
@firehead2591 Exactly. It's made to turn a small calf into a 1,000 pound cow. It's not meant for humans, or any other animal. Dairy creates a mucus in our pipes, which cancer cells feed upon. Since I have taken dairy out of my diet, I no longer have "post nasal drip," which made me cough constantly. I also sleep better and no longer have migraines.
rawrebecca1979 3 weeks ago
@firehead2591 I don't believe in God -- there is no "supposed to" because we weren't designed with instructions. We're adaptive organisms.
hayesism 3 weeks ago
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@firehead2591
"Do you know how many people are lactose intolerant???? The mere fact that a large percent of out population can't digest milk and dairy properly is startling."
What a stupid argument. That's like saying, because there are people out there allergic to nuts and vegetables, NOBODY should eat either.
NiceGuyCody 3 weeks ago
@firehead2591 But . . . . Britney Spears drinks milk . . . doesn't that prove it is good?
Celebrities would NEVER mislead us!
123gwf 2 weeks ago
@gf3030 "milk...poison to humans...die or be very sick from drinking it" Which is exactly the content of this video. Do you even watch it?
FathomlessJoy 1 month ago
@gf3030 Everywhere. Just do the research. We are sick!! Very sick!! Common' get on board and be part of the wellness turnaround. You can to it!! :-)
NvrTuLate 1 month ago
The most HIGHLY advertised & "expert" recommended forms of calcium are:
1) Milk which aside from being poison to humans in general is a POOR SOURCE OF CALCIUM (lactate).
And America's 2nd main source of crappy calcium?
2) Calcium carbonate found in Tums & other antacids and nearly all easily found supplements.
Gotta love that ultra-successful "milk moustauche" campaign.
Don't forget that too much protein leeches the calcium off our bones.
Dumbfounded113 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy You do your own research in life? You mean you have seen first hand what happens? I take it you never visited the feedlots and dairies here in the US. I know several people who manage these places and its nothing like what you described.
gf3030 2 months ago
@gf3030 If you want to see firsthand what happens, watch Earthlings. It's free here on YouTube and it's free on its own website.
agrv8ion 1 month ago
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@gf3030 "You do your own research in life" Absolutely. You don't? Don't be a secondhand human being. Find out things for yourself.
FathomlessJoy 1 month ago
@gf3030 "You mean you have seen first hand what happens" Of course. Why do you think I dropped all animal products from my diet? B/c I hated cheese? Nope. I loved cheese, I was as addicted to it as you are. I wanted to know the truth of this, so I looked deep in myself, my body, my mind, my heart and saw the truth of it: torturing and raping animals is indecent. Eating animal carcass, eating hen's menstruations and drinking bovine pus are unhealthy, unnatural.
You must see for yourself.
FathomlessJoy 1 month ago
@gf3030 "I take it you never visited the feedlots and dairies here in the US." LOL The US the worst, by far. Absolute sickness and evil. Check out Earthlings if you want to know the truth. watch?v=FHA4HNbmDLg
FathomlessJoy 1 month ago
@annysway66 What research says people should not consume milk? Last I checked, milk never killed anyone.
gf3030 2 months ago
@gf3030 We could start with the basic direct observation that it is cruel and digusting to beat a calf out of the way, kneel down in the feces and unrine and suck from a momma cow's teats. Right? Also, it is cruel and unhealthy to take that calf and torture it then slaughter it, so that the month here on Earth all it knows is the oppressive, selfish brutality of man. I do my own research in life ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@gf3030 No, but lots of fat people out of shape milk drinkers with big mouthfuls of snot!
dumanator1 1 month ago
i would never give cow's milk to a baby or toddler.. the research now is clear.. it should not be consumed by humans, even though the dairy council wants you to believe otherwise.
annysway66 2 months ago
Correction: protein in milk is better digested by the infant body, that's why it doesn't matter if 65% of human milk is casein. 80% of adults are lacto intolerant, most do not know it. Unless you are anything but the baby of the cow it is a bad idea to be sucking on a cow's boobs. Can you imagine a baby who does not yet know how to eat meat to run after animals when it is hungry? This is not in your genes or instincts, you are told how to do that and you are now used to it.
StrictlyDelicious 2 months ago
Pretty much anything can cause cancer, sunlight can cause skin cancer, sleeping next to someone can cause cancer (radiation, yes search it up), but we still do all these things because they bring pleasure to our lives. I'll continue eating my meat. Animal rights? Animals eat animals too. Convince a lion to become vegan and I might follow.
RunsLikeaNose 2 months ago
@RunsLikeaNose
haha, I hope your not serious cause there is at least one vegan lion i know of and a bunch of vego tigers living with monks in Thailand haha.
wawei67 2 months ago
And casein is 60-65% of human milk according to Wiki.
wheydust 2 months ago
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StrictlyDelicious 2 months ago
For at least twelve years, I had suffered from numerous stomach problems. All of the stomach problems have completely vanished, since I stopped drinking cow milk. Therefore, I am much happier without cow milk, as you might understand.
Freundlichkeit82 2 months ago
@Freundlichkeit82 you are lactose intolerant! it's not milk's fault, it's your genes. your cells cant produce the enzymes to metabolize lactose.
Ichthyologistic 2 months ago
Disgruntled meat eaters... there's an app for that!
faerieguts 2 months ago
I was saying a hell of alot more people eat animal products then are vegan. That wont change concidering us meat eaters reproduce more meat eaters.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Sure, but education a powerful thing. Just because the parents say, "F*** it, I don;'t want to hear it and I don't care, you have to die of something...," does not mean the offspring will be as lazy and stupid, right? My parent were both meat eaters, and I am not, nor is my son. Mom died of lung cancer, but dad is now about 60% raw under my coaching. Some of the species are smart enuf to learn ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
I am thriving just fine on my own meal plan. Very happy doing so like I said not everyone sees your guys point of view nor wants a plant based lifestyle. I will never and yes I said never will convert. My favorite food is chicken or shrimp. A great steak every once in awhile.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 How'd your cookout go, man? What did you have?
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 No shit. The vegans are just mad because we kill animals for food. Most of them are animal rights activist, so they come up with all these lies to try to brainwash us into beliving meat is bad.
gf3030 2 months ago
Dude, I think you just proved the ape connection.
faerieguts 2 months ago
@faerieguts LOL! Lovebigboobs is the missing link!!!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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faerieguts 2 months ago
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that if I say I have big boobs you'll change your opinion?
faerieguts 2 months ago
How did a nutcase like this become a professor. He knows not a damn thing about Nutrition. For all you idiots who buy in this and try claiming we were once Apes. You are fucking retards!! We are 100% meant to consume both meat and plants. It is healthy for us to consume both. In real science this has been proven not from these vegan nutjobs. Try google once in awhile or go see a real dietician or nutritionlist!
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
Why do we have to cook meat then? And we have molars and digestive enzymes in our saliva to break down cellulose. And our closest relatives in nature don't eat meat. Primates are the only mammals who can see colour and have eyes on the front of our head - we're build as herbivores. Could you kill a deer with your bare hands? We're not designed to hunt. Maybe you could bite the head off a chicken, but you sure wouldn't eat it. And milk is a no-brainer. It's baby cow food, hands down.
faerieguts 2 months ago
@faerieguts We are Omnivore humans and are not made the same as animals. Our build is 100% for eating both meat and plants. We aren't the same as Apes either you evolution nutjob. We have guns so why kill one with out bare hands. Like I said we are humans and not animals so thats why we have no claws. We are 100% designed to hunt. Dairy is healthy as hell so you're whole statement makes you look retarded.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Can you explain dietary habits without using a completely anthropocentric judeo-Christian hierarchy as your sole evidence? You just sound like your have repressed rage against your Big Mac.
faerieguts 2 months ago
@faerieguts We have always eaten meat since the beginning of us. People live to be old eating a meat and plant diet. Its the junk food aka Candy and chips and fried foods all the time and fast food that hurts people. BTW your big mac comment is not very bright. I don't consume fast food.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 You can't talk about "the beginning of us" without looking at evolution and our biology. The tools with which we hunt came about because of migrating to climates other than the one which we evolved in. And living to "be old" isn't the same as being healthy and happy.
faerieguts 2 months ago
@faerieguts I sure can because we didn't evolve from an ape. We started as human but evolved into the humans we are today. My grandparent are in their 90's and very healthy and happy. So yes you can be old healthy and happy as an omnivore.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 But you do know that there was a time that man did not have guns, did not have tools, did not have fire, right? We also did not have rotting flesh sections of the local supermarket to by dead animal pieces. Before these things, how was man, who clearly could not be a carnivore today, able to live off of dead animal carcass?
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Fire was invented close to the beginning as were weapons. He had no choice then but to eat plants. But they started eating meat and it helped them to develope more mentally and physically. People can survive and live long on both an omnivore and vegan diet. Not everyone wants to not eat animal products. If veganism works for you then thats cool but its not for me and billions of others whom choose another lifestyle. Fast food isn't the way tho lol
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 "develope more mentally and physically" Don't look now, kid, but you just make the argument for evolution ;) Call it whatever name makes you feel happy inside, but that is what evolution is. Sorry.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Yes but not Darwin's ape theory tho. We have always been human but we have evolved to the humans we are today.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Ok, so you do see that there's evolution. Because first you frothed at the mouth that it wasn't true. Now that you seem to have calmed down, perhaps then you can see my point. Charles Darwin, while perhaps not correct about everything or very much, the man knew sooo much fucking more about evolution than you know about big boobs. Way more dude! So, strange you claim man evolved into eating meat, and evolved further because of eating it, yet you ignore a very learned man's view.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Because his form of evolution said we evolved from apes. Not that man just evolved over time mentally and physically. Sure we dont look like cave dwellers any more and now have technology and we shower with soap and use a toilet. That kind of evolution is a fact. Ok I am dont 100% if we evolved better from eating it but we have definately been able to eat it and such and have no problems. Until McDonalds pops up on every corner and all the junk food out there.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Right, evolved mentally and physically. Our brains and bodies have evolved. Now, how do you explain that "man like" but also very "ape like" skeletons that have been found? They weren't physically evolved like us today, but they weren't all ape either. We are talking a process of millions of years, btw, so the form and characteristics of man that long ago would be much different, right? That is all Darwin said really, in a nut shell.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy I would say yes. We have learned alot over the years and devoloped stuff. Invented stuff which helped mold our minds and bodies to what we are today. We were Ape like I guess but not evolved from them. We didn't do much more then grunt LOL and no razor I am sure so very very hairy people :) Plus I am sure they stunk like hell.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy LOL You definately can't live happy and healthy on a Big Mac,Cheetoe and oreo diet :)
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Agreed! I don't eat the crap. But man took bad turns in his evolution, which have led us right here with McDs, cheetos, and oreos. Man's mind, while evolved to learn mathematics, is actually warped and has been for tens of thousands of years. Man exploits and profits, and he destroys his environment, he enslaves or destroys all the Earth creatures, and even his fellow man. Man even detroys his own body with oreos. Something is wrong in man's evolution; time to figure it out, LBB!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Well I am a meat eater so I dont disagree with eating meat. But I disagree with the factory farming system/abuse there. I disagree with the anti-biotics and chemicles pumped into the animals and so forth. I am not going to say that occasionally I dont enjoy a few cheetoes or oreos but eating it like its air to breathe in not healthy. McDonalds well I can understand food to go Fast but why make it with the most unhealthiest meat and stuff.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 I would not touch and oreo if you paid me, for real. But I not perfect, I have a weakness for PB&J sandwiches - but with All Fruit jelly, fresh ground peanut butter, on whole grain bread. So I understand spluging a bit here and there. McDs is just a symptom.
I think we need to look deeper to find the source of the problem. But we don't need to look at man 100000 years ago or even look at any other man today. It is inside of us, that is where the answer is.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Well if its giving up meat and such then I am out. But I am sure there is a better way of doing things then they do them now. I cant say I haven't eaten oreos before but very moderately same with cheetoes. Haven't had any in awhile tho but they are tasty.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Conclusion impedes observation. I would not limit myself to a world of possibilities just yet. If you would have told me the morning I woke up a year ago that I would be a vegan that day, I would've laughed, not too loud or long, but laughed nonetheless. It's an incredible journey of miraculous health and happiness, and each day is something new, and it all starts when that barrier of "I would never do this or that" falls.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy No you can trust my words I will always consume meat and animal products. I am not in any way interested in being vegan. I love my life as is.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Enjoy your happy life when you cannot find a fresh glass of drinking water, or breath in unpoisoned air. See, guy, it is all interconnected. There is no true happiness in the one while the whole is in chaos. Open those eyes and look around. Life is more than personal gratification.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy The area I live in is almost country. Plenty of fresh air and clean water. Well maybe you want to concern yourself with everyone else. Not saying thats bad just I am not going to stress over it. No slaughter houses near me or anything and my water doesn't come from the polluted areas of water. Well its been nice talking to you but I dont want to argue about this all day. I am going to go enjoy my day and have a cook-out! Take care!
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Well that is fine for you for a while. It is a shame that someone so smart and capable would limit themselves to such selfishness. Hopefully for you no one will pollute your water.... Oh, wait a minute! There is actually a single water source for the entire world. That your petty little part of the world seems fine so long as you keep you corner real small, which you seem to be good at. Take care!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Actually there are also things called Well Water which is popular in the country that doesn't come from the so called single water source for the world :) Thats what we have and its alot cleaner and tastier. You can call me selfish all I want it doesn't bother me. I am happy and I am not going to change. Don't tell me you believe in that Global Warming nonsense too?
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 LOL. It seems like you are working hard in your mind to convince yourself and me that you are not a connected part of this planet, connected by water, air, species to everyone else. Why struggle so much, go eat your carcinogenic rotting flesh ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy I'm not struggling and also meat isn't rotted flesh. Its flesh yes but it takes awhile to rot. ince thats why we refrigerate it and freeze it. Refrigerating it slows it down thats why meat is good for bout 4 or 5 days in fridge and when you freeze it its good for months. Its not rotted when we eat it. Just thought you should know nthe facts :)
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Just seems like you frantically come up with childish argument after childish argument as to why you don't have to take action. That's all. But yeah, you live in that remote isolated section of the planet with that subspecies that is not part of humanity. Riiiiiight! ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy This planet will out last us and our kids and grandkids and generation and generation more with no problem. Vegans are just scared is all. Brainwashed by the videos or the global warming freaks to think the planet is going to hell.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Ah, so now we have moved form archeological and evolutionary expert to great wizard who predicts the future ;) But really, if you think that polluted water and air is not a problem, live it up! keep you head in the sand! Have a ball! That or you can join the species.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy I will be fine and enjoy my life. Actually most of the species eat animal products and meat LOL So I have joined them :). The water isn't polluted everywhere. Maybe right where the slaughter houses are and where the oil spill happened but with technology we will be fine. The air I breathe everyday is not polluted all I smell is fresh air :) I will never move downtown or LA LOL
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Now you are back to bubble boy, living in isolation, as if your water and air from this Earth is seperate and special. Very narrow minded. And yet on the other hand you quote "most of the species" hehe. Which is it? Are you isolated or part of the whole? Or do you pick and choose to support whatever argument you want next?
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy If there was any real harm from not being vegan since it would affect people in the government as well they would have fixed it already. They would have the animal waste put somewhere else. The environmental crisis thing is just a sham. For vegans its trying to convert others, For the government its to make more money off some fake bullshit taxes. I am not stupid I know its all BS. Starving people in other countries because of meat production?? Thats another joke.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Actually, if one is not cut off in their own little isolated world, we see that everyone is saying stop eating meat! Everyone, doctors, the government, nutritionists, environmentalists, etc say stop eating it. It's linked to cancer, heart disease, etc. Well they don't say stop altogether, but slow WAY down, which is a lazy way to avoid stopping something by pretending to stop. Where have you been? Ah, you have been in your own little world. Enjoy your cookout, chief ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy No they aren't I know both doctors and nutritionlists and even dieticians. They say the opposite and to moderate red meat to twice a week but eat more chicken and fish. They dont even say slow down. Where have you been?? Vegan fantasy land?
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Nope they say "stop" in fact Bill Clinton did. It's catching on, people are learning. That "moderation" thing is so that brain dead fattys eating carcinogenic bloody burgers out of the fire will keep buying it in the meantime. Nothing every changes in moderation, dude. Everyone says stop the meat and eat fruits and veggies, 9 servings per day! But who are you fooling, you have been doing this since you were a chubby babe, you know best, you stuff down as much as you can, OK? LOL
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy No they aren't saying STOP only the vegans are. Bill Clinton was a McDonalds junkie is the only reason he was in bad health. He admitted that he went almost daily. If he would have quit McDonalds would have been fine. No one says stop the meats they say eat a balanced meal with lean meant along with fruits and veggies. I was never a chubby baby nor am I chubby now. Like I said I have medical professionals in my family whom disagree with the vegan diet.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Dude, brother was the president of the free world and had the best food avialable to him of any man on the planet. The Mcdonalds thing was a gimmick in the press. I could not stand the man, personally, but he, like tens of millions of others fell victim to heart disease on the standard american diet. good news is he is reversing it with raw fruits and veggies. The human body, like the planet, is miraculous, so long as we treat it decently, otherwise it is a sewer.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 You too man! Last thing: don't you know about the carcinogenic agents created when you grill rotting flesh? Hmmm. Search on HCAs and PAHs before that cookout, these form form meat over fire and change the DNA in your body's cells. Look it up. You may want to find a different "food" LOL.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy LOL I will take my chances. Been eating grilled meat since I was a toddler so I don't believe everything I read. There's always someone typing articles about meat this and cooking meat that. Doesn't worry me in the least bit.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 "toddler so I don't believe everything I read" Funny you were just asking for information that proves what I say. Great thing about facts, bubble boy, you don't have to believe them. But perhaps you will stay a tottler in health forever, who knows....
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Even if meat was bad for me which it isn't well ya don't live forever. Atleast I enjoy what I eat. I am not a fan of just eating plants.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 I want to thrive, not just survive. What if you kids started smoking and said, "F you, dad, ya don't live forever?" LOL I think now you may have an idea of what it is like reading arguments. Still seems strange, why argue at all? You have a good bead on things!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy I wouldn't be happy if they started smoking but its not the same thing as meat. Its not like I could prevent them from smoking if they really wanted it just lecture them. Meat isn't smoking tho so no its not the same thing.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Sure, my point was, however, that you would slap the cigarettes out of their idiot hands and say, "That is the most lame, childish, lazy excuse to throw your health and life away." Course if they are teens they may slap you back. See the point? you would not even tolerate the logic of "have do die of something" from a child.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Even when the fast food chains first were developed it wasn't bad. But they start cutting corners getting cheaper products and such for more profits and thats when it turned to hell.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 "thats when it turned to hell." LOL That's is what man has said forever. Think about it, it's what our fathers said, it's what our grandfathers said, it's what their grandfathers said. The only one who can solve this is each one of us. Each of us must look into our mind and hearts and see what is real, not what it "used to be" or what it "could be tomorrow" not what others say it "should be", but what it actually is. That's how we change the world, by transforming ourselves.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy I don't see why I should transform myself. I am fine and healthy. Like I said I consume meat and don't agree with everyone giving up that. I am transformed already into whom I plan on being and am happy with that.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 That is looking at life in a short sighted, self-centered way, right? Observe mankind as a whole, the state of this world, and tell me it does not need to be radically transformed.
Your whole outlook on life is centered on the mistaken notion that there is such a thing as individual happiness for man. I recommend you examine this notion, in context of the totality of autrocities in the world, and see if it is in fact imaginary.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy No its not imaginery. I am very happy with the way my life is. Sorry you don't see things the same way. But like I said before I am not interested in changing my lifestyle. What happens everywhere else in the world doesn't affect how I feel. I do not agree at all we should all go vegan or anything like that. I believe we should live our lives the way that makes us happy. I dont believe the world needs to be radically transformed. There are lots of happy people.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy We should be happy for whom we are. Not stress about the whole world. Its the governments job to stress about their countries or the world. I am happy in my life and not going to stress about everywhere else. I have a great family and friends,good job,nice home and we are healthy. There are charities and such designed to help those in need if they would accept the help. You stress about the world you will go crazy. Thats my philosophy. I am very happy in my own life.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@maddie4229 If humans are designed to eat grains and plants more than meat. Then can you explain why humans produce the acids to break down meat but not celulose and fiber found in plants? Sounds like we are designed more for eating meat.
gf3030 2 months ago
@gf3030 We are definately designed to eat meats. These vegans are on some agenda trying to brainwash people. Some people are weak minded and actually believe this garbage. We are Omnivores
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
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fittemple1 2 months ago
human beings are genetically designed to primarily eat grains and plant matter (as evidenced by our large number of flat molar teeth); yes, meat is also a part of our natural diet - but only in very small quantities! The level of meat that developed nations consume is in no way healthy, for the environment, for the welfare of livestock and for ourselves. Yes, the animal kingdom is harsh and often cruel - that does not mean that we are given license to act in the same way.
maddie4229 3 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Humans evolved to eat animal corpses? Actually, the father of evolution study disagrees with you: "The grading of forms, organic functions, customs and diets showed in an evident way that the normal food of man is vegetable like the anthropoids and apes and that our canine teeth are less developed than theirs and that we are not destined to compete with wild beasts or carnivorous animals." ~ Charles Darwin
I'm sure you know a lot about evolution, but my money's on Chuck ;)
VEGAN!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Corpse means dead body, right? The body starts to rot the second the heart stops. Thus you eat rotting corpse, right? Carnivores love that their meals are rotten; I'm not sure why you protest.
It seems your argument is with yourself and Charles Darwin, not with me, right? Darwin likely knew far more about evolution than you, and certainly more about it than I. All I know is that I and hundreds of millions of vegans prove Darwin right and you wrong every day. Can you explain that?
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Now you offer weak opinions in an emotional manner. See "beef" is the language of deceit, "cow corpse" is the language of truth. I no longer use your language. That you cannot face what these things actually are should reveal more to you than any argument you advance against evolution and Darwin. If you claim he's wrong, prove it! Prove him wrong! Plus, if he missed something so fundamental what else did he get wrong? Seems like your best served to set your scientific ducks in a row ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Ah, now the hate and cursing. I see, you just would rather be cruel to humans and cattle is your stepping stone. Good luck with that cause I've argued before senators, scientists and judges, all flaming mad; I am not going to back down because baby knows a bad word and froths at the mouth ;)
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne And yet every morning I wake up I prove you wrong, right? See I prove every moment of my life that man thives on a plant based diet. Meanwhile people on your diet are dropping like flies. You are betting against a sure thing ;)
Moreover, I prove Charles Darwin right every day when he wrote that humans have evolved to optimally consume a vegan diet.
I cannot apologize for your hate and anger, but yet I still wish it was not so.
Peace, love, and light to you, truly.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne And now folks we have a complete breakdown in discussion as the cruel rotting flesh eater launches into full personal attack against his fellow human. Strange, your behavior is rather like a religious zealot, right? What's next, blow yourself up at a vegan seance? ROFL.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@decadyne BTW: both a good scientist and a good student ask questions; when presented with something to study, they examine, observe, learn. It seems you have an awful lot to learn about both science and study. Peace.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Its been a pleasure. I hope you consider the truth I've revealed to you here. Next time bring more facts and evidence and learning, and less fighting, cursing, and frothing. Adieu.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Now you are just parroting. First the pseudo-science, then the cussing and hateful names, then the ranting about irrelevance, now you just parrot things. Strange way rotting flesh eaters try to justify the indefensible these days. And usually when you say "ciao" it means they are going to leave. You keep storming out, then storming back in to tell me you are storming out. LOL. Schizophrenic much?
I understand you have been lied to, you feel betrayed and alone, but I am here to help.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
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decadyne 2 months ago
@decadyne Says the "scientist" who could not stop name calling and cussing and hysterically foaming at the mouth from the first comment. Listen, like I said, argue the science with Mr. Darwin. I am not in his league. Let me know who wins. I on the other hand will continue to eat a 100% healthy, fully optimal, 0% cruelty diet for health and happiness, and thus continue to save the planet and the aminals, and change the world. Peace!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
@FathomlessJoy Screw changing the world. I love meat and don't care about the cruelty. Its also healthy as well. Darwin was a moron with his theories.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago