Brahms piano concerto 1, mvt 3 (1of2), Ashkenazy, Giulini

[photo3642u]

A favourite of mine since hearing it for the first time, age 19, on the soundtrack of the 1962 film 'The L shaped Room,' with Leslie Caron directed by Bryan Forbes.

Ashkenazy is good but I enjoy also Barenboim with Barbirolli, Alfred Brendall & Clifford Curzon.

[gitprofnikat]

@orange

No, the orchestra comes in in piano, and there is NO diminuendo written in the preceeding piano passage. That dynamic relationship should be preserved, it seems to me, if one ascribes generally to the "rules" of classical music playing where one pretty much follows the score, figuring, in the absence of availability of consultation, it reflects the composer's intent.

[OrangeSodaKing]

@gitprofnikat I must have a bad edition of the score. Which do you have?

[kiaragre]

thanks for having posted it!!! Smack smack smack....

[gitprofnikat]

HIs phrasing in the opening is incorrect, appalling for a first line musician. Rather pedestrian, colorless playing. Makes an unindicated diminuendo prior to the tutti leading to the chromatic scales passage...should terminate forte with a subito piano when the orchestra comes in. In short, this is in no way representative of the way he evolved later in his career as a distinguished pianist,musician and conductor.

[OrangeSodaKing]

@gitprofnikat But Brahms does NOT say to terminate the forte and make a subito piano there like you suggest, and you made it sound like the diminuendo he made is incorrect. You expressed distaste in that he did NOT take a liberty from the score, and also when he DOES take a liberty from the score. According to the score, the orchestra comes in forte, so the piano should still be forte to even be heard! The problem with balance is a recording error, not an error on the musicians.

[haioforler]

Hear this concert in the interpretation of Emil Gilels. Outstanding.

[petie32]

Brahms stood on

Beethoven's head and surpassed Tchaikovski.

Un bee frickin leeeeeeevable.

[Sim882]

I normally think first movements in concertos are far better than the later ones (not always but generally they are more diverse and have more than mood. Third movements can also sound uncohesive)

But this one is a rival to the first movement.

A good concerto - but not a rival to the PERFECT 2nd concerto.

[fracche]

it is the most difficult piano concerto ever composed...

[n00belicious]

NOBODY CAN EVEN FREIRE ON BRAHMS 1 AND 2

[arturon111]

Arrau can, and has, Arrau plays the BEST Brahms concertos ever !!!!!

[PhedraBcn]

@arturon111 with Bruno Gelber

[paulostroff99]

@PhedraBcn -Giulini here.

[tkguarina]

qualcuno puo' famri avere lo sparito per pianoforte di questa opera? o darmi il link dove trovarlo o inviandomelo per e-mail.grazie

[john9487]

Thank you for uploading this phenomenal performance!

[keykanonmania84]

One of my favorite piano concertos besides of Beethoven 4th and Rachmaninoff 2nd and 3rd. :D

[haioforler]

Wow, same like me ;)

[vcupiano]

you can definitely hear his admiration for beethoven in this piece

[mathpianist93]

Most certainly, vcupiano. I played the theme for a friend of mine and he thought Beethoven wrote it. And if you contrast the rondo from Beethoven's 3rd piano concerto in C Minor, Op. 37 with THIS one, you will notice a very strong similarity in the STRUCTURE.

[4444matthew4444]

what year is this?

[mathpianist93]

Giulini was director of the Los Angeles Philharmonic from 1978 to 1984. So this video would be sometime within. Ashkenazy looks young for a person in his 40s; he was born in 1937.

[mathpianist93]

Beautifully rendered mainly because of dynamics, legato, AND passion!

[ixcuincle]

Great Piano concerto...my only complaint is that it is split up into so many sections. I guess that's the 10 min limit though...just a minor nuisance to be hearing this divine music and then an abrupt pause because the video is done.

[tguiot]

yeah, this 10min limit is quite frustrating... i asked youtube about getting more than that, but no answer.... otherwise i would just split into the different movements...

well too bad, but better than nothing

[MarchiolyTorma]

This is one of the best piano concertos I've ever heard. I'm was never too fond of the piano however, but this breaks the norm, I assume.

[tguiot]

could you give some more explanation please ?

[reaperman2004]

I wouldn't worry about chadsissine... he's just an idiot who doesn't realise brilliant music when he hears it. Whether he has a grudge or something... I couldn't care.

I wouldn't bother with him.

[suzettegm]

I agree

[cellestialX]

plays with more staccato than Arrau on this movement.

[yupSAMiam]

Gosh this is my all-time favorite piano concerto...and he plays it really well!!!

[bdgiusti]

Excellent, especially from 1:30 to 2:15; the way he espresses Brahms is divine...