TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: The Rhetoric of Iran

[spokrocks]

Its called IRAN not I-RAN

[USArCOWARDS]

The ret-o-rick.

LMAO!

Yanks are such spastics.

Its'

"Re-tor-ik

[exclamation3mark]

we don't have to 'Take Out' all the facilities? McCain is an idiot! Vote for him vote for WWIII

[germanicus24]

What on earth is the problem of Iranians uniting and following their leaders. They NEVER said "Wipe Israel off the map", all they want is a change of regime. Marg bar Amerika, and Marg bar Esrayl mean Down with those rogue regimes which cheat their own people and kill innocents. What on earth is so wrong about that.

[classic14rider]

I just love the way John McCain twisted Joe Biden's words around into a pro-war statement. Biden said an air strike against Iran would rally Iranians around Ahmedinejad, which is what we don't want. McCain says, Biden's right that you have to be careful about the rhetoric that you use -- if you say you're going to bomb them you have to follow it up with action, i.e. bombing. Biden said "Don't bomb" and McCain spun it to mean "Do bomb."

[oung77]

This argument just seems like clash of egos by the both countries. Not defending Iran, but if you tell someone to calm down when they're flustered, it seems to make them worst. I don't think US has any control over what Iran does. So all we have is to flex our so called military might. Thats just lack of diplomatic prowess in our part. Seriously, how the hell did this country stoop so low to argue with globally insignificant country like Iran. Come on, this is U.S of fuckin A.

[gosciu555]

jesus breathe. Don't act threatning you're adding fuel to the fire.

[OperationXX1]

Vote Ron Paul and avoid the disaster that is war against Iran.

[flayvah]

When did the US become the country to say who could have nuclear anything or not? That's my only question. What if an ally of the US said, " If I've got them, why shouldn't they?" Let me guess.... no more ally.

[MarcusVorenus]

The reasoning behind it has to do with the U.S. being one of the key players, if not the leader, in the U.N. war committee. Yes it's very hypocritical considering we have so many, and there are several nations who haven't even signed the non-proliferation act, such as packistan, who have nukes and we say nothing. It really seems like it is just an excuse to go to war.

[gosciu555]

It is.

[gxnxsis]

The four countries that haven't signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty are India, North Korea, Israel, and Pakistan (without the c.)

[2bn2]

Who hasn't questioned 9/11? Now "Inside Job" would imply people in our govt. knew it was coming which brings me to false flag terrorism. Has anyone ever studied false flag terrorism? It's happened before. It's a part of history you shouldn't ignore

CFR CEO David Rockefeller: "we are part of a

secret cabal working against the best

interests of the United States" Memoirs p405

CFR: Thompson Romney

Clinton Giuliani

Edwards Obama

Terrorstorm 2h,

"Timeline to Tyranny"

[episteme420]

Obama is a member only to spy on the rest

[gosciu555]

you wish, he's endorsed by ZBIG and William Kristol of PNAC. He's gonna be like Blair.

[julichvyasdi]

amen. send graham to Iraq.

[dtla1730]

He also made a good point when he said that the development of an Iranian nuclear deterrent would be a security affair and in that he sounds American. It's a matter of national security and sovereignty - both of which America seems determined to threaten publicly whenever possible.

[dtla1730]

Elbaradei sounded embarrassingly lucid. "The only durable solution is through negotiation and introspection." Wow.

It's difficult for me to lock down a reliable count of the nukes in America's arsenal, but I know we have the greatest number of WMD in the world. So threatening Iran over the development of ONE is insane.

What's more, if Israel has anything to fear, it's due to its own racism and bullying...all of which has been actively supported by the American Govt.

[majimay]

someone should send Lindsey Graham Cracker over to Iraq

[TAMARLANE]

The US has an ally in the middle east. Israel.

We will support and defend Israel if needed.

Iran knows that.

A threat to Israel is also a threat to the US.

What are the odds Iran will change course?

What are the odds the US will bomb their nuclear facilities?

[33115566]

The cultural differences in regard to threats and honor should be considered. Whats the poop, don't we think Israel can take care of its own business?

[yelobmx]

will somebody please remove these @#%&s from the WH, in Huckabey's words...whatever it takes, whatever it takes

[judydeneal]

Deja Doo-doo

Unmitigated bullshit.

We have an old saying: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You can write that on your shirtsleeve if you need to.

[vi3tsteryis]

Hey judydeneal, I think you got that saying wrong. According to Bush, it's "Fool me once....shame on you. Fool me twice......you fool me [I] can't get fool again.

[undeadnow]

How would Iran Nuke the jews with out killing most of palestine. People who like Bush have to go back to school to get higher educated, because ignorance is what fox news depends on to get you to think like them.

[TAMARLANE]

Along those same lines, Iran says she can unleash 11,000 missiles in one minute.

Who would they fire 11,000 missiles at?

[eekdog2005]

Pro-war propaganda! neo-cons traitors own this country, run the media, try to trick us into thinking the democrats and republicans have different idea's. lmao Both parties are owned.

[elfroggo0]

We have no F-ing right to tell a sovereign nation what they can or cannot do. They are members of IAEA same as US. Plus, USA is violating the nuclear non-proliferations treaty, now were gonna tell someone else they cant do the same? Another example of Do as I say not as I do. BUSH AND CO SUCK ASS

[holdingcompany]

Fuck Israel. If they want "their" land, let them fight for it. Why on earth would the U.S. be interested in starting WWIII for the sake of Israel? It's ridiculous!

[lordbeaker]

Because it is a religious issue with those in power. The evangelical mindset wants an all out war in the Middle East and Israel is the center of the whole conflict.

How we have let the Christian Right and this administration violate the separation of Church and State is what we should be concerned about. Well... that and the greed, but those 2 seem to walk hand in hand.

[unwashablebrain]

iran is a major supplier of oil for china. we bomb iran, china bombs us. they always forget to mention the china factor.

[mikie1973]

if we left iran alone they would go away like libia

[3henchmen]

The media blitz was ordered by the office of the vice president for the sell of a war on Iran reported in The New Yorker on August 31st.

google it. the article is called: Test Marketing

[vi3tsteryis]

Pretty ridiculous that we have to Google and dig deep to find the truth. Here is the article for that piece 3henchmen is talking about. Put a period in there of course. tinyurl com/2dnaty

[kimlea69]

Rhetoric is what starts WARS people....Kim

[vi3tsteryis]

The government is just making way too many enemies by with their intent to strike everyone with capabilities to make weapons without letting way for potential peace talks. If I recall, the Iranian president never said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map. He was talking about the Imam regime must vanish from the page of time.

[crazycatfguy]

vi3 Control of middle east oil will give the US enough leverage to force any vote they wish in the UN which will make them rulers of the world. The US does not have enough troops to take Iran right now and they are interested in making sure Iran is defenseless when they get around to them.

[vi3tsteryis]

It's sad that most people see all these things happening and knowing the truth of their intentions but they just sit quietly twiddling their thumbs knowing that dissenting protests would be quelled immediately by the US government. It's sad knowing there's little you can do to stop fascist government without power yourself. We need to all unite as one single entity to speak out against these acts of barbarism.

[shortfu]

Watching all of these of tv, the average Americans do not realize that we Americans are the BIGGEST threat to the world, not Iran and Iraq.

[DevBlazed]

DEATH TO NEO-CONS

JAIL EM

SHOOT EM

HANG EM

Finger fuck their dead bodies

[KIDiotequeA]

Hillary, and the other top tier dems are neocons as well. They are also upping the rhetoric. Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich...or, Mike Gravel.

[Anogram]

Hey I dislike neo con thought as well, but you said finger fuck their dead bodies. When you make rhetoric like this you should know you better be able to back it up.  So if dead body neo cons start popping up, will you finger fuck them?

[janpauwels]

Question:Does anyone knows what percentage of Americans would support a military strike in Iran?

[dafttool]

janpauwels: I just saw a poll yesterday which said, I think, 68% against & 29% for a military strike. Not that surprising since about a quarter of Americans are firmly in Bush's camp regardless of his actions.

[janpauwels]

Thanks dafttool, 29% in favor is still surprisingly high for me given the fact that this admin. has consistently lied to go to war to Iraq.

Lets hope the US-media will do it's job this time?

(asking the hard questions instead of cheerleading..)

[voyzovrezon]

Sadly, it doesn't matter how many people would be against a military strike against Iran. This regime does whatever to hell it wants. It has the backing of a lot of insane representatives on Capital Hill as well, as you saw from the video clip.

[guaporuiz]

It would be a dream come true if the new prez and congress elect reinstates the draft. That way if anyone beats the war drum, Americans across the nation would behave very differently than today.

[agitcam]

Hey Lindsey, it's the Bush regime that is up to no good. And Junior Bush is clearly taking us down the road to destruction.

[aphexmandelbrot]

Not just Bush. Almost the entire leadership is soaked with money and ulterior motives. Democrats, Republicans alike. Money. Power. Money

[CypressHillSoldier72]

We need us as people to be speaking out and protesting a war with Iran. the Bush regime has lost all credibility and a war against Iran would kill millions of innocent people on both sides.

[foodope]

Brainwashed Americans. Bizarre. And a shame.

[PimpMyAfterLife]

This is all BULLS**T !!!

I say let Iran bomb the F**K out of Isreal.

They shouldn't be tapping OUR shit any how.

KILL EM ALL LET GOD SORT EM OUT !!!

[airborne373]

Huckabee -"What ever it takes" A little vague for someone who wants to be president. This guy knows nothing about foreign affairs.

[vicnameless]

Yeah the ChickenHawks are on the move! Let's pass a law that SAYS if you vote for war....Your KIDS go first!

[bigge525]

Only a Republican could get away with treating

this as if it's imminent threat, while still

admitting they are YEARS away from having a

nuke.

The chickenhawks are on parade, put your boots

on lady's and gentlemen, the **** is about to

get deep...

[LayneRoxxx]

"what is the evidence?" We have no evidence but George Bush suspects they want to have a nuclear bomb.

"What is the rhetoric that Iran is using?" There is no specific rhetoric that we are talking about, but we suspect that they are talking about the rhetoric behind closed doors.

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WE HAVE CRAZY PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE GOVERNMENT!

[leepakim]

IF the US attacks Iran then this will be a much brutal war with many many victims...why? Because RUSSIA will probably join in and the RUSSIANS are REALLY MAD (not all but the Russian government at least)at the US (at least at the US Government).

[doobtribe]

Its ridiculous, shamefull, inhumane! how a insane majority of american politics ignore the IAEA reports. They should be prossecuted for trying to missleading their citizens (AGAIN) into a "pre-emptive" war.

[RemiG2006]

Sweet ;D

[TinkyDoy]

Google On the Eve of Destruction By Scott Ritter

[voiyour]

"lots o luck" -- ain't that the damn truth!

[natural]

Pre-Iraq era happening again only after only 5 years. we dont learn from history.

[SLAVEforLISA]

This is all a part of the PNAC manifesto to gain control of Middle East natural resources using "shock and awe" as its weapon. It needed a new Pearl Harbor, and it got one with 9-11.

[thielenm]

*throws up on keyboard*

[eligarf]

who the fuck are these pretendiplomats?

war mongersukillingr8people.

d i p l o m a c y is the only way, fools.

[Drstrangelove17]

This is crap that has been going on for years. IT'S ALL SCARE TACTICS! It's time to stop making the nation afraid; we, as a nation, need to stand up and say, "NO! NO MORE WAR! WE WON'T GO TO WAR!"

Don't let the government and the media intimidate you. Learn the facts; learn the truth.

[neverlookback75]

Let's just say it the way it is. The U.S. would like to take over the middle east, since they're sketchy and we prefer governments that we can rule remotely aka England and the like.