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  • SAAB IS BETTER than audi ...1985 y compare to quite new audi :))))

  • YOU SPANKED THE SHIT OUT OF THE S4!!!! YEAH!!!

  • interesting that a car from after 2000 or later still can´t keep up with a car released in 1985.. go Saab you still got it. and Yes Saab is still record holder of long distance racing with stock cars. 100 000 Km at full throttle, only standard service done. Average speed was 213Km/h so yes, put an 18 year old in an Audi and watch it fail( for details of the 9000 google the Talladega speedway "the long run" )

  • Slow for hx35...

  • Obviously at 140 mph you will pass the Audi it is governed around 160 so......

  • @osinskialex 140 kph, saabs are also governed at 155

  • LOL does the bluetooth add horsepower?

  • 140 mph or kph?  Safety first with the Bluetooth.

  • 140 mph or kph?

  • saab doesnt get good acceletration because of its fwd :( .

  • @Taaviots its not like it got a problem with traction, so ur wrooong

  • @Taaviots that has nothing to do with highway acceleration, unless youve got a massive amount of horsepower and you can burn out doing 70...

  • fucking banger racing,old sheds

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  • @Theyorkshirekeeper Dont even try when im driving a Veyron

    If You don´t want to End Up In A Ditch like a little fart when i pass you at 267mph...LOL

    Sorry but it's the truth

  • Good old cars these Saabs, engines are damn near bomb proof !! mine is nearly at 160,000 miles and runs fine.

  • @Byootox I had an old 900 turbo, bought it at 220,000 (yes miles) and sold it on at 250,000, then the gearbox died.

  • @arumdevil Mine cost £300 five years ago with just over 100k on clock and whilst I've had to do bits and bobs it's never broken down on me once, the best bargain I've ever owned, and apart from the thirst I would recomend one of these as a workhorse to anyone.

  • @Byootox yep they're good solid cars.

  • I knew the saab wouldnt let me down haha

  • MONSTER SAAB !!!

  • saabs are good looking and all, but some of the most unreliable peices of shit there are. :/

  • @thewindsurfguy are you on crack? you do realize that the world record for a car with the highest mileage is a saab right? with over 1,000,000 miles on it....WITH the original motor. Maybe you or someone you know had a bad experience with one, but in all honesty they really arent bad. I had one with over 120,000 and it had no problems what so ever.  If anything the audi in the video is the crap car those are like known for electrical problems.

  • @SaGalv gotta agree. my friend had an s4 and his panel would always be turning on and off

  • @teddy3412 yep, i used to have an audi 100 for a brief period. Granted I bought the car from a friend for 200 bucks...but when i bought it the only electrical problem was the heater-a/c would spaz out, and both the heat and a/c didnt work. By the time i got rid of it, the ignition stopped working (i had 2 wires under the bumper you had to touch together to make it crank) the dash panel would spaz out and show every single warning message, and the windows stopped working.

  • @SaGalv You can't compare cars like that. Yes Audis has electrical probelms, most german cars have. But when you are talking about engine reliability, you can't compare 90hp Saab's and 100hp Volvo's to a ~300hp sports car. First of all, wear and tear parts take a totally different kind of beating what that kind of HP/torque. A sports car is obviously driven in a different manner. Just put a 18-25 year old behind the wheel of that 1m mile saab and it wouldnt have gone half the distance.

  • @ringlol ummm 90 hp saab? they got about 200 hp stock and they arent slow cars by any means. take one out to the highway and enjoy.

  • @thewindsurfguy scratch that i looked it up out of curiousity and found the RECORD is a volvo which has 2.6 million miles on it. However if you type in 1,000,000 mile car in google you can read bout that saab i was talking about. i think that had the record for sometime.

  • @thewindsurfguy Sounds like you've had some bad luck I've found mine to be the most reliable car I've ever owned by a long way !!"

  • @eraseyouu are a transvestites with anal herpes

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  • anyone here that likes saabs is a flaming homo.

  • @eraseyouu Awww... are you upset? FYI people that drive SAABs are car enthusiasts "usually work on their own cars, can't say the same for audi" and can appreciate ALL cars! including audi.

    I own an 05 S4 and an 00 Viggen. the audi is built better but the Viggen is faster on the highway. Plus I have 6 friends that own audis I can't say the same for SAABs. they admire the SAAB because they are different. then again My friends RS4 is really sweet.

  • @Deltaspeed93

    No I'm not upset in the least, just stirring up the pot. Gotcha! Anyway looks like you're the upset one. Thats what I get when an actual Gay person reads my Homo comment huh? Sorry mate. Anyway, Every Audi guy I know can eithor build, fabricate or tune their motor etc. like a motherfucker. Im talkin old school Audi business not the new under warranty stuff. Gongrats on the S4.

    PS-Sabbs are for transvestites with anal herpes...

  • @eraseyouu How old are you...5? If you stand outside of yourself for a second and just look at that pathetic shit you wrote you would realize that you are NOT a car person you are an audi person and just immature....Stop being a bitch/little girl. This is how someone acts who just got into cars and feels they need to defend his/her insecurities.

    For someone who judges people so much you seem to use the words Anal dick and herpes a lot!

  • @eraseyouu Hahaha youve got to be kidding me. Someone thinks theyre a badass behind that computer screen

  • Anyone else have fun smoking kids in mustangs with their 4 cylinder saabs like I do?

  • @autodog221 me!:)

  • You weren't doing 140. End of story. Send me some nasty response if you like but we know the truth. The audi would have fallen apart at 120!!!! LOL! SAAB ON!!!

  • @bigholmes95 audi s4 will do 160. its supposed to be limited to 155.3, but it'll do 160 on a good day

  • 4 cylindre owned a v8!!

  • @caravaning4 This is S4 V6 2,7l BiTurbo stock 265hp ...

  • @MazelTHC thank you ;)

  • @caravaning4 YOU sir, just got owned. Don't act like you know what you're talking about...

  • sweeeeeeet :P

  • saab all the way i wish i had a video of me ruining moded bmw and audi on the highway with my stock 2000 93

  • @jakepagucci Haha yes I did that the other day in my 95 aero to a modded 328is. He pulled up next to me hot headed. He had no chance.

  • saab all the way i wish i had a video of me ruining moded bmw and audi on the highway with my stock 2000 93

  • @jakepagucci You wish you had video of something that's completely unrealistic. It's extremely unlikey that you've "ruined" modded BMWs and Audis in your STOCK 2000 9-3. Js.

  • S4 Quattro? If it's with chip on RS4 then lol on Audi xD...

  • @mrkevsta11 if americans are joke than why are u on an american website

  • for a laugh ...because jokes make you laugh

  • Haha i wish i could say you were wrong

  • thata boy

  • pfffs stock turbo s4 vs HX35 which flows more then GT35 turbo... go give it a try with k04 S4 or rs6-ko4 S4..

  • SAAB i mitt hjärta :D<3

  • what is break boosting?

  • Instead of just applying throttle to maintain speed, you apply more throttle balanced by the brakes to spin the turbo up to produce boost. This way when you start the drag the engine can take off more quickly because it's already boostin'!

  • I had an Saab 9000 CD, 91, fucking best car ever to drive offroad with, coz they r quite high! and short-geared gearbox, so strength also! 2.3 without turbo it was.

  • haha maybe you were kinda high

  • i hate boring dull looking audi, bmw

    saab design looks fantastic

  • idiotic comment lol

  • why do all audi,bmw,benz look the same inside and outside

    TOP GEAR (icon uk car show) say german cars company copy each other cars so they do not lose there sales

    i do noy want dull grey boring german cars with silver paint and black leather

    i want saab with turbo that can blow porches away

  • I guess you never been in audi, bmw or merc. you would know how differentthey are.

  • i dunno, theres something about a drab boring accountant piece of work that suddenly goes beserk

  • @TheWonderPlace

    you and the other 5 people that like saabs on this planet should start a club or something. Yeah you can talk about how Audis are boring looking when theyre stomping your saabs dick in the pavement. GO SAAB!

  • @eraseyouu

    Also three words, Front wheel drive. =fail

  • @eraseyouu damn your making a fool of yourself. i understand you cant afford to even try a saab, and guess your even to young to drive. atleast it seems so couse of the silly comments. but then again, u could be the typical redneck american thats to stupid to know how things work.

  • @eraseyouu I can see your special.... special needs that is !! ha ha

  • @TheWonderPlace I agree with you.

    Audi and VW make their cars with thw sort of rounded molds used for gelatin. It's dull, ugly, and their diesels sound like tractors.

    Saab, Citroen, Alfa Romeo, those are real cars with real design.

  • Id rather have a Saab anyday, at least it will still work after all these years, unlike the german crap that breaks down and bursts into flames!!

  • SAAB ALL THE WAY!!!! XD

  • dont here anyone saying shit about going from a dig

  • OK....I will say something, an S-4 0-60 is about 5.7 seconds and the automatic is a doggish 7 seconds flat the early SAAB 9000 without TCS 0-60 was around 6.3 seconds so it really depends on the driver.........Thanks

  • Thats possible, except 18-20psi is way out of the range. To keep the stock injectors, it would be below 10psi which would be kindof defeating the purpose of the holset. I have a 340chp ng900 and in order to run 18psi with a big t28 turbo I had to get 50# big injectors. A holset is decidedly bigger than mine so I wouldnt be surprised.

    If they are running low enough boost levels, then it is possible. No offense taken, sorry if I sounded rude :)

  • okay this is making a lot more sense now. I was assuming this car had the same injectors as my 1996 9k which can flow enough fuel for that PSI.

  • Its not about the fact that the video says that it has stock fueling or not. The fact is that the stock redtop injectors are way over their duty cycle with this setup, so unless this car is running extremely lean (on the verge of blowing up) then the stock injectors simply cant keep up. Also, it is hardly easy to believe that when it mentioned the twin fmics. That is obviously not true, so dont even defend that either.

  • Not trying to be a jerk, but is it possible hes running the holest with lower boost levels like 18-20 PSI? I know that holset is a big turbo and the spool up wouldn't be good. However, if someone was in the process of a build and hadn't purchased any fuel upgrades could it be done? If this Saab was running much more boost then it should have walked the Audi easy unless both car descriptions are inaccurate.

    Thanks,

    John

  • :o nice!

    saab 9000 ftw ;D

  • Umm, no way will the saab have stock fueling. A holset is a very large turbo, and yes they are relatively cheap so that is not the issue. What is the issue is the fact that there is no twin fmic or stock fueling, which brings into question the whole supposed set up of the 9000. Sorry, but stock fueling is a no no.

  • dude if you watched the video it makes a point of saying the saab has stock fueling so i dont know what your saying.

  • I was like getting closer to the monitor biting my teeth "GO SAAB GO SAAB" :D

  • the saab rules!

    go saab!

  • Well Done SAAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!

  • Saab all the way! Audi's are normally good competition though, Good work!

  • lol the s4 is practically stock. a tune and exhaust....not much considering you replaced the turbo and have 2 aftermarket front mounts. good race though.

  • Big deal. that holset probably cost 200$ and with stock fuel injectors and stock clutch it cant have much more than 300 hp. u can do that with a stock td-04 on the newer saabs. no idea how much power the audi has...

  • 200 dollars for a turbo, and twin FMICS's...? really....I doubt that.

  • 200 for the turbo alone. and yes its true. the holset hx35 is a stock turbo off a truck (forgot which one) and can be had at salvage yards for 200-300 $ if you look hard enough.

  • SAAB =Sensational-Awsome-Amazing-Be­autiful

  • nice!! :) SAAB WAY rulezZzZz :D

  • Their enginges are simply amazing!can take abuse out of this world! XD love my 900

  • Sierra Alpha Alpha Bravo

  • what year is this saab??

  • between 1985-1991, this is the old saab 9000cc

  • So for tuning on a Saab, which model is recommended? I only know that I love Saabs, I do not know, however, about tuning them...

  • Anything before '98 because after 1998 GM took over and just ruined them. Plus don't quote me but I think that might be the last year they were made in Sweden as well.

  • Nah, they are still built by trolls in Trollhättan. Sux that GM has fucked it up though =(

  • Japp, Saab (Riktiga Saab) alltså allt innan 98 typ är ju hur bra som helst.

    Men nu är ju det Opel grejer i allting

    På grund av GM (General motors)

    Förstår inte varför Saab sålde till GM.

    Jag tror inte dem skulle gått i konkurs.

    Dem nya 93 är ju Opel växellåda, Opel motor

    Till och med handtagen är opel nu.

    Så Saab sjunker och sjunker...

  • haha the saab pwned it.

  • ha ha...audi is Shitt!...SAAB is the best!

  • man, Saab owns the streets haha... SAAB swedish steel \m/ Honor that

  • Put some KO4 turbos on the S4 and then see what happens...

  • Saab 9000 Turbo is a sack of shit compared to the Audi s4. I bet this isnt an s4, its more like a stock 1.8t! LMFAO!!!!!!!!

  • Both cars were built by dryft motorsports. Its not up to debate.

  • Hah! Saab <3

  • how does the audi kick the saabs ass? the saab was in front of all those races and the audi is suposedly exrememly fast and it gets past by a 2.3 turbo wow i rather have a saab anyday

  • SAAB beat the shit out the Audi .Period.

  • what is "brake-boosting"? i cant think of a reason why you would want to apply/use brakes to try to get the turbo/car to accel faster

  • In short - turbo lag. From a rolling start at lower reves the turbo will take a while to spool up. Say they were starting at 30mph - You have your foot on the accelerator whilst at the same time using your left foot on the break to keep the car at a steady speed. Then when you want to get going you simply release the break and as the turbo is already boosting you get instant surge of acceleration instead of having to wait fir the turbo to spool up. Useful for exiting corners at speed.

  • why dont you guys honk?

  • the audi did

  • how much boost is the saab running?

  • 16 in the vid on the hx35w

  • love seeing the look on peoples face when you own them in a saab pricless lol.

  • hahaha va paff han måste blivit i audin ;)

    De där trodde inte jag ens.

  • ughh.

    this makes me miss my old 89' 9000. i put so much work into it and it finally got too expensive to repair after climate changes eventually took their toll on almost all my electrical wiring.

    i now have a '96 900SE turbo, but that doesn't even hold a candle to it in my mind.

    oh, and to the idiot below me:

    i have never driven a car that is as good as a saab in the snow, AWD or not.

  • I love people who've never turned a wrench in thier life talk about cars. Please do tell how you make a s4 fwd or rwd? Oh wait you dont know because you're bullshitting, and its not something to do. The S4 lost because it is down nearly 50hp to the saab. Excuses dont win races, being ahead at the end does. period.

  • you forget, a used saab can be had for chump change compared to a used S4, the saab has more interior space, is better on fuel, and is very likely cheaper to insure.

  • your an idiot. the s4 has its advantages AWD, v8 motor, twin turbo. it always depends on the driver.

    MAKE THE S4 FWD OR RWD??!?!?! its an audi... its always been AWD first car ever to be AWD! u cant change that.. and as for the weather audi is great at that, but ive had 3 saabs and they drive great! in bad weather, afterall, scandonavians drive them in horrible terain in sweden

  • the s4 is a 2.7 twin-turbo v6 :)

  • The B5 S4 is a bi-turbo V6...

  • That was supposed to reply to someone else's post. Anyway, I'm not surprised the S4 pulled away at the beginning, he has boost right off the bat thanks to the bi-turbo set-up. It's really hard to beat Saabs on the freeway anyway, I don't think a lot of people realize that, or don't want to realize that...

  • uh, no it didn't you moron. The Audi got passed

  • "The Audi kicked the SAABs ass! :P"

    Blind? The saab won u moron xD

  • Come try that against my 9-3 2.8V6 sportwagon

    It kicks ass out of the RS4

  • i have a 98 saab 900 se 2.0 turbo myself and let me say it never ceases to amaze me how many people want to race off the starting line. dont they know its a damn turbo? jeeze and it may look stock but i have some secrets, lets just say i whooped this porshe that tried it. haha.

  • Miss my 9000 =\ They are truly underestimated cars

  • saab 4ever

  • saab owns :)

  • actually almost exact same hp and tq. about 345bhp/350btq

  • not much hp, but a shit load of torque

  • GO SAAB

  • Main problem. K04 turbo. It is a terrible design, too small and general bearing turbo. Get either a dual ball bearing disco potato turbo or much larger turbo (like the hx35 in the vid).

  • too bad its really hard to fit anything but a k04 in an s4.

  • Just raced a chipped B5 S4 with my 1997 9k CSE with K04, performance clutch and some ecu tuning. Opposite result, the Audi was quicker up top.

    I think there is something quite different about my mapping however, as I get insane tire-smoking accerlation in 2nd and lots of boost taper in the latter gears.

    It was much more fun watching the S4 disappear in the rearview of my '86 951 :-)

  • Saab 4 life

  • 300whp/305wtq... soon to be 400+whp

  • hi...do you know how much hp and torque the saab has? very cool video.

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