@eclpyse3d As long as they see the suspect concealing or leaving the front doors with unpaid merchandise they can make the apprehension if the suspect does not cooperate then the lp officer can physically detain the suspect until the police arrive, and the police will decide to warrant or not to warrant that arrest and 99% of the time they do
is it really that hard to just pick a item , then go to the register and give them the money , then your free to go. do you need to get a book that says shoping for dummies
THERE IS NO ARGUMENT OVER THE "LEGALITY" OF THIS. They DO have the right to stop and detain ANY individual they suspect of stealing and handcuff them. They can do this at Starbucks, they can do this at a 7-11, they can do this at a ma and pa Yarn store. Its called citizens arrest. The thing is, you had better be right when you do this.
@savetheworldSoRa no its not illegal they dont want you guys to chase down shoplifters because you might get hurt and possibly file a lawsuit against home depot learn the law you fucktard
@XxStorefrontx Different state, different policy, perhaps. Our policy in Ohio is provide customer service no matter what, if someone makes out with some merchandise, we call the ASM, that's it. We are NOT allowed to follow, harass, or "take-down" shoplifters, eos.
yep same here. Home Depot DOES NOT ALLOW ANY employees to attempt to stop a theft or burglary. This is company policy I believe but I also heard it was a statewide law... I live in Michigan btw.
I do not recommend going to home depot they allow raciest mexicans to become managers. I worked at home depot for 4 years doing great all my reviews were great. The store mgr and mgrs liked me because I work hard.Then we got this store mgr from Mexico and off of a sudden I was getting written up right and left for doing nothing wrong. All of the white employes started getting fired and mexicans were being hired as the replacements.I got fired and told my story to unemployment &they sided with me
its called the good submaritan rule.... you see something against common law, you cannot be held liable for anything you doto the perp in the process of helping.
@THEMASTEROFYOU2000 That all depends on the state you live in. In IL a person can make a citizen arrest on any person in the commission of a misdemeanor or felony so long as they witness the act. The arresting person can also use up to the same level of force that the criminal uses (basic self defense law).
I think all rules should be thrown out once someone wants to become a thief! Too many people get away with things here and some laws almost back up the criminals....and then people wanna cry why the world is the way it is! Sometimes u gotta serve your own justice!
Fucking scumbag thieves. They should take them to the wood cutting area nd chop his fucking hand off. "C'mon man!" You can see this dick is nothing but an uneducated asshole. Fucking loser.
@bx944 Then there would just be a warrant out for your arrest on attempted murder charges. Way to go, you showed them. I worked LP at HD, the only guy who really attempted to fight us with a sort of weapon went to prison for attempted manslaughter.
@centermass85 i guess you do not get it the comments are for the post the comment are just peoples option does not mean they are right or wrong. to disagree with others comments are like asking a person a question and then argueing with that persons answer. pretty stupid would you agree. what business is it of yours circle jerk and one more thing it would not be attempted it would be for murder premeditated, who gives a shit about lp or hd or who did what or who went where ok have a good day.
@bx944 I didn't agree or disagree. I just commented on your comment by telling you what would happen if you did what you claimed you would do. Which we all know you wouldn't do, but that's beside the point.
@dc013 real talk. I got an APM walk tomorrow, going through inventory period so i'm tagging and letting shit go as long as its under 100 bucks or so... still getting fake receipt rollouts and double dips. LA home depots are crazy....
I work at the depot - associates are not supposed to be touching the suspect. Wouldn't be surprised if somebody got in deep shit. LP at the depot is a force to be reckoned with.
@mpwelk Yeah I worked LP at HD a couple years ago. All those guys in aprons with their hands on the subject were likely fired within a couple of days.
actually when you get hired at Home Depot they tell you not to take action to people who do this stuff, they tell you that your life is more important and anything stolen is not your problem.
@kklmsfk yes but it was the citizens that stopped him, and if hes already stopped it is perfectly fine for the asset protection or store security to handcuff them if they are already halted, i worked for target as asset protection and store security for almost 2 years, what they tell us is not to physically stop them ourselves.
@Joeybjj True anyone can buy handcuffs, but it is false to say just anyone can carry & use them to make a citizens arrest. It's sort of a grey area and complicating,because on one hand security can only make citizen arrests as we're not the police and no different from anyone else but on the other hand if we have a handcuffing license then we have the legal right to carry and use handcuffs on the job when making citizens arrests, although a true citizen not licensed cannot carry or use them.
This is Joeybjj. I am going to disagree with you, again. I am a Criminal Law student and have ample experience in Loss Prevention and private security. There is no such thing as a handcuffing license. There are certs that many times private business require you to have per their policy. There is no Security status that allows for it. Like you said we are just like anyone else. No differences. Anyone can carry handcuffs without any licenses. A true citizen is what you are.
@lpvidz101 Maybe where you are from but in some parts of Canada like BC, in order to carry and use handcuffs you must take an Advanced Security Training course.A certificate proving you passed, must be sent to the Registar Security Services Act where they will have it printed on the back of your security license. If the police ask if you are certified to carry handcuffs you must show them the back of your security license,where it says you are authorized to carry restraints (handcuffs only).
Well since you're from Canada that changes everything. I'm pretty sure most of us having this conversation are from the US, hence the references to the US Constitution and such. Not to mention the guy who posted the video's name is MJstewartUSA. So yeah.. My comments count toward the US. You guys have your own thing going on in Canada.
we are living in Nazi Germany..not america..what security does at a store..they are not allowed to touch or arrest or search a person...1. it's unconstitutional..2. there are federal laws that company's have to abide by! the employees are breaking laws right and left..when are you Americans going to wake up
@OregonMilitia I'm not sure what fantasy constitution you've been reading, but there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that prohibits private people from making arrests. Furthermore, under various federal and state laws and cases, it is PERFECTLY LEGAL to arrest shoplifters using force if necessary (by private persons). Wake the fuck up, read a book or two!
@Robert111 true but most times people do not arrest, they simply detain the suspect until the police arrive. but both are perfectly legal. especially if you are working for a big company, they will most times have your back
@robertpinnisi Umm, well you're going to have to review your terms. The difference between being "detained" and "arrested" comes down to an ambigious amount of time. For example, if you are stopped for speeding, you are "detained" while you are being written the ticket. However, if they take a hour to write the ticket and you are prohibited from leaving, you have been "arrested" even if you haven't been put in cuffs, etc. The distinction is very important with regards to your rights.
@Robert111 thats true. when i apprehend a shoplifting suspect in the store i work, i tell them that they are being detained until the police arrive. i do not read them their rights or anything like that. not looking for a civil case lol
@Robert111 Best buy will fired you in Cali for taking people down, you post to "step infront" of them then ask them if they have stolen something, and only if they"re trying to put they're hands on you then you can take them down.
Walmart is soon to follow bestbuy rules...............
@Robert111 Actually, private entities can only detain a person without *excessive* force causing any injury to the suspect and place a 911 call with suspect's details immediately after that. ANY delay in this step, and you have kidnapping and assault. The police verifies if the suspect's health was not impacted in any negative way and if the private organization placed a call immediately. Failing this, all evidence supplied to the courts is automatically withdrawn(violation 4th amendment)
@ankitpasi1 "Actually" most of what you said is complete bullshit. If the suspect starts fighting with security, they can beat him bloody in self defence. Your most ridiculous and STUPID comments is about the 4th Amendment. The 4th Amendment ONLY APPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT. It does not proscribe private actors at all. NOTHING a private actor does will somehow trigger judicial supression of evidence. Where do you get this stupid shit from??? Either way, don't spread your bullshit, kid.
@Robert111 You need to take a note from your own book buddy, they cannot do this unless its on behalf of the employer or person(s) provided a felony is in progress.... Petty theft does not apply. Read up on your individual state laws but I suspect like most states this is the case.
@eclypse3d Wrong again, common law doctrine is that a merchant can use reasonable force to detain someone with they have a reasonable suspicion that the person took something. No felony threshold is involved at all. Unlike the pigs, there is a considerable risk involved in the event that they were mistaken (and get sued for false imprisonment). Ths is COMMON LAW, individual states are free to have their own statutes. If you have any other questions, let me know.
@Robert111 I understand that, I am just saying they cannot just blanket detain, harass every person who does not show a receipt etc using " I suspect you" mentalities. It only protects them so much.
GREAT PUBLIC RELATION'S!!!!! I LOVE THE NOISY PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST WATCHING. IM SURE THE LP WERE FIRED ...WORST JOB BESIDES FOR BEING A COP ..... YOU CANT TOUCH PEOPLE THESE DAYS....
bunch of faggots fuckin da guy on da froor puttin der dick on him nasty gay lords no trash can do shit like dat 2 a nigga like me
Michaeln131 3 weeks ago
WOW! He Got Stealing In The Garden Department. FAIL!
RonDiRebel 2 months ago
Whats There To Steal At Home Depot?????
RonDiRebel 2 months ago
@eclpyse3d As long as they see the suspect concealing or leaving the front doors with unpaid merchandise they can make the apprehension if the suspect does not cooperate then the lp officer can physically detain the suspect until the police arrive, and the police will decide to warrant or not to warrant that arrest and 99% of the time they do
twinspade 3 months ago
is it really that hard to just pick a item , then go to the register and give them the money , then your free to go. do you need to get a book that says shoping for dummies
thedoller360 3 months ago
i work for home depot and everyday i found empty package
we are lozing alot
leavesl 3 months ago
that's what you get for having such high prices, home depot ass holes!
ColdMorningStrangler 4 months ago
THERE IS NO ARGUMENT OVER THE "LEGALITY" OF THIS. They DO have the right to stop and detain ANY individual they suspect of stealing and handcuff them. They can do this at Starbucks, they can do this at a 7-11, they can do this at a ma and pa Yarn store. Its called citizens arrest. The thing is, you had better be right when you do this.
VoodooPolitico 4 months ago
I work at Home Depot, it is illegal to chase down a shoplifter.
savetheworldSoRa 4 months ago
@savetheworldSoRa no its not illegal they dont want you guys to chase down shoplifters because you might get hurt and possibly file a lawsuit against home depot learn the law you fucktard
mcpas 4 months ago
@mcpas Actually, it's illegal because if our suspicions are WRONG, we can get arrested for assault, you "fucktard."
savetheworldSoRa 4 months ago
@savetheworldSoRa Your wrong, I work as Undercover Security at Macys, once they grab something they loose their right to prosecute us.
XxStorefrontx 3 months ago
@XxStorefrontx That is at Macy's. Home Depot has a completely different policy, believe me, I fucking work there.
savetheworldSoRa 3 months ago
@savetheworldSoRa Not according to my dad who is by the way a manager of the Pearl Highlands Home Depot and has worked there for 15 years
XxStorefrontx 3 months ago
@XxStorefrontx Different state, different policy, perhaps. Our policy in Ohio is provide customer service no matter what, if someone makes out with some merchandise, we call the ASM, that's it. We are NOT allowed to follow, harass, or "take-down" shoplifters, eos.
savetheworldSoRa 3 months ago
@savetheworldSoRa
yep same here. Home Depot DOES NOT ALLOW ANY employees to attempt to stop a theft or burglary. This is company policy I believe but I also heard it was a statewide law... I live in Michigan btw.
chris62008 4 months ago
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I do not recommend going to home depot they allow raciest mexicans to become managers. I worked at home depot for 4 years doing great all my reviews were great. The store mgr and mgrs liked me because I work hard.Then we got this store mgr from Mexico and off of a sudden I was getting written up right and left for doing nothing wrong. All of the white employes started getting fired and mexicans were being hired as the replacements.I got fired and told my story to unemployment &they sided with me
bluediamond2077 5 months ago
I love the "C'mon man" over and over. Its as if he thinks they are all just gonna say "Alright, he's had enough. Let him go."
blibjersey 5 months ago
its called the good submaritan rule.... you see something against common law, you cannot be held liable for anything you doto the perp in the process of helping.
grimm61111 5 months ago
Policy says that only certain people in the store are permitted to physically detain anyone. Seen folks get fired for grabbing an arm or the like.
YazatLane 6 months ago
a citizen make attempt to arrest only if the other person is engaging the a felony crime against another. Federal and state law, end of story.
THEMASTEROFYOU2000 6 months ago
@THEMASTEROFYOU2000 That all depends on the state you live in. In IL a person can make a citizen arrest on any person in the commission of a misdemeanor or felony so long as they witness the act. The arresting person can also use up to the same level of force that the criminal uses (basic self defense law).
93kern 3 months ago
I think all rules should be thrown out once someone wants to become a thief! Too many people get away with things here and some laws almost back up the criminals....and then people wanna cry why the world is the way it is! Sometimes u gotta serve your own justice!
Ten4goodBuddy1 6 months ago
Fucking scumbag thieves. They should take them to the wood cutting area nd chop his fucking hand off. "C'mon man!" You can see this dick is nothing but an uneducated asshole. Fucking loser.
pighater069 7 months ago
WHEN I WRITE IN CAPITALS IM ANGRY!!!!! LMAO
crispycracker1234 8 months ago
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bx944 9 months ago
@bx944 Then there would just be a warrant out for your arrest on attempted murder charges. Way to go, you showed them. I worked LP at HD, the only guy who really attempted to fight us with a sort of weapon went to prison for attempted manslaughter.
centermass85 8 months ago
@centermass85 i guess you do not get it the comments are for the post the comment are just peoples option does not mean they are right or wrong. to disagree with others comments are like asking a person a question and then argueing with that persons answer. pretty stupid would you agree. what business is it of yours circle jerk and one more thing it would not be attempted it would be for murder premeditated, who gives a shit about lp or hd or who did what or who went where ok have a good day.
bx944 8 months ago
@bx944 I didn't agree or disagree. I just commented on your comment by telling you what would happen if you did what you claimed you would do. Which we all know you wouldn't do, but that's beside the point.
centermass85 8 months ago
actually it's a crime to allow a crime to happen and not do anything
lostbuffalo 10 months ago
Most people don't know how it is to do LP, there's a LOT more too it than this... what everybody see's here is the fun part :)
treylsend 10 months ago
@treylsend Thank you!!!! The HOURS or walking, stalking, watching, hiding, paper work to this all of 6-10 minutes of actions... It's crazy!
dc013 8 months ago
@dc013 real talk. I got an APM walk tomorrow, going through inventory period so i'm tagging and letting shit go as long as its under 100 bucks or so... still getting fake receipt rollouts and double dips. LA home depots are crazy....
treylsend 6 months ago
Typical Starsky & Hutch takedown. "Hey Starsk, call for backup while I hold his legs"
CaptainRon1913 11 months ago
I work at the depot - associates are not supposed to be touching the suspect. Wouldn't be surprised if somebody got in deep shit. LP at the depot is a force to be reckoned with.
mpwelk 11 months ago
@mpwelk Yeah I worked LP at HD a couple years ago. All those guys in aprons with their hands on the subject were likely fired within a couple of days.
centermass85 8 months ago
Is that the Home Depot on Cattleman Rd in Sarasota, Florida?
bnefriends92 11 months ago
Isle 13, quick, grab some zip-ties so I can cuff this guy
CaptainRon1913 11 months ago
@CaptainRon1913 haha, at my store, the zip ties really are in 13!
mpwelk 11 months ago
Cuff and stuff fun. Those criminals never 'do nuffin'
jburr36 11 months ago
while all the employee's are out there watching ,, some other clown is shop lifting
koz303303 11 months ago
i like that home depot..i never got help from the associates from the home depot i did loss prevention at on bell rd in glendale az
ariesenigma33 1 year ago
i like that home depot..i never got help from the associates from the home depot i did loss prevention at on bell rd lol
ariesenigma33 1 year ago
The next time you want to steal lumber for your kid's Christmas present go to Lowes you son of a bitch.
Ted7864 1 year ago 29
What did he steal? A plunger?
soulkiss31 1 year ago
why do they try and talk their way out of it? they're NOT ever gonna let you go unless they wanna get fired.
lester5192 1 year ago
actually when you get hired at Home Depot they tell you not to take action to people who do this stuff, they tell you that your life is more important and anything stolen is not your problem.
kklmsfk 1 year ago
@kklmsfk yes but it was the citizens that stopped him, and if hes already stopped it is perfectly fine for the asset protection or store security to handcuff them if they are already halted, i worked for target as asset protection and store security for almost 2 years, what they tell us is not to physically stop them ourselves.
scottchalfant1989 1 year ago
What did he steal...a fuckin plunger? Whoop-di do!!! Get a life people!!
fondness1012 1 year ago
Don't steal lumber... it's impossible to conceal.
balutatasin 1 year ago
That was illegal employee's cannot use handcuffs you have to be licensed to use them
Eddie00ful 1 year ago
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Marty32 1 year ago
@Eddie00ful It depends where all this is taking place, and if the client allows the employee (who probably is an LPO) to carry handcuffs.
Marty32 1 year ago
@Eddie00ful DUDE... no validity to your comment whatsoever. Anyone can buy and use handcuffs legally....read a book.
Joeybjj 1 year ago
@Joeybjj True anyone can buy handcuffs, but it is false to say just anyone can carry & use them to make a citizens arrest. It's sort of a grey area and complicating,because on one hand security can only make citizen arrests as we're not the police and no different from anyone else but on the other hand if we have a handcuffing license then we have the legal right to carry and use handcuffs on the job when making citizens arrests, although a true citizen not licensed cannot carry or use them.
asoka2000 1 year ago
@asoka2000
This is Joeybjj. I am going to disagree with you, again. I am a Criminal Law student and have ample experience in Loss Prevention and private security. There is no such thing as a handcuffing license. There are certs that many times private business require you to have per their policy. There is no Security status that allows for it. Like you said we are just like anyone else. No differences. Anyone can carry handcuffs without any licenses. A true citizen is what you are.
lpvidz101 1 year ago
@lpvidz101 Maybe where you are from but in some parts of Canada like BC, in order to carry and use handcuffs you must take an Advanced Security Training course.A certificate proving you passed, must be sent to the Registar Security Services Act where they will have it printed on the back of your security license. If the police ask if you are certified to carry handcuffs you must show them the back of your security license,where it says you are authorized to carry restraints (handcuffs only).
asoka2000 1 year ago
@asoka2000
Well since you're from Canada that changes everything. I'm pretty sure most of us having this conversation are from the US, hence the references to the US Constitution and such. Not to mention the guy who posted the video's name is MJstewartUSA. So yeah.. My comments count toward the US. You guys have your own thing going on in Canada.
lpvidz101 1 year ago
yea hes actually putting his weight pn him
713Jaime713 1 year ago
What is that fucking douche in the black shirt humping the guys leg or something?
Robert111 1 year ago
he must have refused to give his email address when he bought his product lol. They must have thought he was with a terrorist group lol.
taboomoko 1 year ago
the audio sounds like the busted Chong
tugfitz 1 year ago
we are living in Nazi Germany..not america..what security does at a store..they are not allowed to touch or arrest or search a person...1. it's unconstitutional..2. there are federal laws that company's have to abide by! the employees are breaking laws right and left..when are you Americans going to wake up
OregonMilitia 1 year ago
@OregonMilitia I'm not sure what fantasy constitution you've been reading, but there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that prohibits private people from making arrests. Furthermore, under various federal and state laws and cases, it is PERFECTLY LEGAL to arrest shoplifters using force if necessary (by private persons). Wake the fuck up, read a book or two!
Robert111 1 year ago 39
@Robert111 true but most times people do not arrest, they simply detain the suspect until the police arrive. but both are perfectly legal. especially if you are working for a big company, they will most times have your back
robertpinnisi 1 year ago
@robertpinnisi Umm, well you're going to have to review your terms. The difference between being "detained" and "arrested" comes down to an ambigious amount of time. For example, if you are stopped for speeding, you are "detained" while you are being written the ticket. However, if they take a hour to write the ticket and you are prohibited from leaving, you have been "arrested" even if you haven't been put in cuffs, etc. The distinction is very important with regards to your rights.
Robert111 1 year ago
@Robert111 thats true. when i apprehend a shoplifting suspect in the store i work, i tell them that they are being detained until the police arrive. i do not read them their rights or anything like that. not looking for a civil case lol
robertpinnisi 1 year ago
@Robert111 Best buy will fired you in Cali for taking people down, you post to "step infront" of them then ask them if they have stolen something, and only if they"re trying to put they're hands on you then you can take them down.
Walmart is soon to follow bestbuy rules...............
InYaSoul 10 months ago
@Robert111 amen!
fox7seven 8 months ago
@Robert111 Actually, private entities can only detain a person without *excessive* force causing any injury to the suspect and place a 911 call with suspect's details immediately after that. ANY delay in this step, and you have kidnapping and assault. The police verifies if the suspect's health was not impacted in any negative way and if the private organization placed a call immediately. Failing this, all evidence supplied to the courts is automatically withdrawn(violation 4th amendment)
ankitpasi1 4 months ago
@ankitpasi1 "Actually" most of what you said is complete bullshit. If the suspect starts fighting with security, they can beat him bloody in self defence. Your most ridiculous and STUPID comments is about the 4th Amendment. The 4th Amendment ONLY APPLIES TO THE GOVERNMENT. It does not proscribe private actors at all. NOTHING a private actor does will somehow trigger judicial supression of evidence. Where do you get this stupid shit from??? Either way, don't spread your bullshit, kid.
Robert111 4 months ago
@Robert111 You need to take a note from your own book buddy, they cannot do this unless its on behalf of the employer or person(s) provided a felony is in progress.... Petty theft does not apply. Read up on your individual state laws but I suspect like most states this is the case.
eclypse3d 3 months ago
@eclypse3d Wrong again, common law doctrine is that a merchant can use reasonable force to detain someone with they have a reasonable suspicion that the person took something. No felony threshold is involved at all. Unlike the pigs, there is a considerable risk involved in the event that they were mistaken (and get sued for false imprisonment). Ths is COMMON LAW, individual states are free to have their own statutes. If you have any other questions, let me know.
Robert111 3 months ago
@Robert111 I understand that, I am just saying they cannot just blanket detain, harass every person who does not show a receipt etc using " I suspect you" mentalities. It only protects them so much.
eclypse3d 3 months ago
@OregonMilitia lol your so stupid
5NOOPY615 10 months ago
Lol this is in davie isn't it
metalmasters2k 1 year ago
he could at least picked up some plywood and fought his way out, hacksaw jim duggan style lol
jodafro 1 year ago
GREAT PUBLIC RELATION'S!!!!! I LOVE THE NOISY PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST WATCHING. IM SURE THE LP WERE FIRED ...WORST JOB BESIDES FOR BEING A COP ..... YOU CANT TOUCH PEOPLE THESE DAYS....
NICKNAC2110 1 year ago
The dude in the black shirt is not a good samaritan. He's just a butt sniffer who saw an easy target.
SouthOx 1 year ago