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  • the only way i see for zerg to win a match like this at this point period is if they built up mass hydras(if possible) then mutalisk and brood lords. With some corrupters for good measure. ground forces with zerg once terran reaches that level is just asking for it.

  • idra is such a dick

  • Your video is a favorite on Melekeok

  • Rofl! Listen to yourself. Pathetic. Idra is a whiny little bitch. Retard sends in unit after unit headbutting. At the start does a ling drive by into a wall and QQ's like a baby...what? he expects to win using cheap ass T1 units against a wall and high tech? He kept building same units over and over and QQing? Zerg...the joke of SC2. Thanks for proving. Thanks for playing.

  • @Bububaps I'm a Zerg mate, but I only have a few question...

    Aren't marine T1? Do you call hellions, a unit that costs litteraly no gas, a full T2 unit? And please stop generalizing. Not all Zergs are "whiny bitches" and I have to tell you, you're the one who's bitching. So please, keep your thoughts to yourself, and comment about the game, not the players.

  • @KooKooWorm Yes? What's your point. Try headbutting into Toss HT or colossus with marines and see how far that gets you. Try infestors etc. Oh wait, it's different because it doesn't work in your favour right? Yes, all zergs are whiny bitches, you only need to take a look at the forums to see that, even better, just take Idra. The queen of whiny bitches. Pointing out facts doesn't make me a whiner lol, I think the game is PERFECTLY balanced. Whiners are those QQing about it.

  • @KooKooWorm Oh and P.S. Do you know how units and tiers work in this game? So what if Hellions cost no gas, that suddenly makes them T1 does it lol. No, they ARE T2. That right there shows you don't know the mechanics of the game. They require a factory, thus, T2. Baracks ( or gateway/spawning pool) = T1 Factory (Or cybercore etc) = T2. Starport = T3.

  • IDRA is SUCH a crybaby! Brood Lords. Nuff said. Go cry to your mom, the rest of us are going to go play starcraft.

  • @TimInCoronado - Oh also Idra you DO NOT have self respect.  Self respect includes humility you tool.

  • @TimInCoronado you're an idiot. Idra had every right to talk shit. This map is nothing but chokeholds, and the fact that Drewbie lost is pathetic. Idra played like a boss, and you know it. Don't talk shit.

  • @TimInCoronado he still won so go fuck yourself.

  • idra <3

  • i was so cut when drewbie didn't win, he somehow against all odds had chances to win, if he took out that ultralisk cavern before, he would have won for sure

  • i don't know why he's getting corrupters...

    *greater spire in production tab*

    hurr durr

  • Wow IdrA is such a whining baby, I cant imagine what that dickhead is like in real life.

  • @dave4deputyZX Idra was a bit bad mannerly, however this was a time when Terran WAS overpowered. Idra is a great player, a lot better then drewbie, for example. And being a very passionate player he quite rightly hated losing to imbalance. Some of his words were quite cruel and rude, but in his words rang a lot of truth. Idra is blatantly one of, if not the best foreign players and he is actually a nice guy, I've met him.

  • idrA is a whining idiot, I don't see how Terran is OP when he was able to win due to Broodlords.

  • @freddybear92 If Drewbie got vikings the broodlords woulda been toast.

  • Idra QQ way too much. And i can't believe how horribly he positioned himself. Along with the line:" I have selfrespect". I lost all my respect for Idra.

    Sure i can see why people think that Terran is overpowered, but it really just comes down into positioning. So fuck you Idra, cry more.

    Drewbie did good, but it just wasnt enough.

  • @Jaadedd  // Zerg player.

  • IdrA OP?

  • ZERG 4 EVER!!!!

  • Drewbie had 1000 chances to win but he just sstood there

  • @WastelandGaming Beating IdrA is like beating a Wookie. Don't expect to wake up intact :/

  • As soon as HD said Idra was building Corrupters I thought Brood Lord. So why did it take HD so long to recognize it?

  • @eragonelf3

    Yeah if you go back to when he was talking about it you can see the Greater Spire tech on the top left corner of the screen. I was pointing to it making a "why u no?" face.

  • @eragonelf3 Because HD does a terrible job actually predicting stuff. He basically only comments on what is actually happening. Terrible work, honestly.

  • i haven't seen a replay about idra without those 50 comments about idra raging

  • wow u guys fucking rage about idra raging. u bunch of sad hypocrites.

  • idra is a little crying baby

  • xD funny how Idra says " i woudnt play terran cuz i have self respect" when he was indeed a terran player

  • @lucky this is from Beta, and was almost a year ago it wsa a different game then

    jsut look the Ultras are still headbutting and there palyin on Kulas Ravine

  • dude that was a HUGE insult to injury at the end!~

  • No drops, no counter attacks, no nydus worms and the zerg choosing ultras before broodlords...SC2 has come a long way in the past year.

  • @joelloth Uhh, there were drops... there were counter attacks.... nydus worms??.... ultras before broodlords is completely normal..... what game are u playing?

  • The reason i fell in love with watching competitive Sc2...I love you Idra.

  • Production tab: Corrupters. Next to Corrupters is Greater Spire. Hard to figure that one out.

  • @PyProg He didn't wanna spoil it ! :)

  • @PyProg how is that hard???? u can still produce air units while its morphing... and also he prob has 2 spires

  • @FireNetHD I was being sarcastic. He was going to make brood lords.

  • you can tell this is fucking old as shit because they are both playing like Tards and HD is actually casting a game.

  • @feeblemind you can also tell by the date posted >.>

  • This was made early in SC2. Chillax folks.

  • What a fucking noob commentator. "IdrA is getting corruptors, I'm not sure why he is getting them. He might just be giving up"

    And then in the open production tab you can see a greater spire. This commentator is fucking worthless.

  • @SOMUCHNOOBSoO ahahahaha I was about to write the same thing, thank you for that.

  • @SOMUCHNOOBSoO and he could easily stomp you into the ground in a game of SC2 so chill bro. This was mad early from when the game came out, he's actually one of the top 3 or 4 best commentators out there.

  • @vincethegreat15 Haha, na he wouldn't :-) I'm high master, I HIGHLY doubt HD is that. :-)

  • @vincethegreat15 not even close

  • PF are a joke.

  • why corruptors??? try broodlords????

  • HD has become a much better caster of the last year, lay off him. If you don't want to listen to him, go watch Husky or Day9 or Gretorp. Keep it up HD, I like your stuff.

  • "i dont know why hes getting corruptors".... THERES A GREATER SPIRE IN THE PRODUCTION TAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!! Also toy must know anyway that the only point of getting them is brood lords anyway.

  • Terrible terrible casting.

  • "i dont know why his making corruptors"

  • This caster is a faggot.

  • its really sad seeing people just shit on idra because of what he said in this game when you should also see how drewbie egged him on. it just shows how fast people jump on bandwagons especially when its about hating someone

  • the good ol' days when SCV's could repair to their heart's content without being attack and where fungal growth was pretty much worthless.. can't believe drewbie killed wave after wave of ultra's and still managed to lose that game.. Idra is indeed shitloads better then drewbie.. gg sir

  • Idras a cunt honestly drewbie at least gg's

  • does anybody even like idra? like at ALL?

  • @SouthPads Everyone who isn't a stupid kid who can't think for themselves and just jumps on the same bandwagon as their other bronze terran banshee rush friends.

  • @AEgamesFtw Yeah but the guy himself is a pathetic asshole

  • @SouthPads Uh, no, fucka you whale

    and fucka you dolphin

  • 6:48 better than being really thirsty for blood

  • @Daubernoob worst call

  • So although zerg is pretty off-balanced in this map and game overall, IdrA could have easily transitioned instead of making a big deal about it. He is good, just needs more self control and concentration.

  • There are a couple points you can make here. Take a look at the date. Yes, back then it was indeed imba and Terran has been FAR nerfed since then, Kulas ravine practically has no wide place except for mid, so yes, mapping and race overall, terran has a very high advantage in this game. Although, due to the temperminded person idrA is, the though of broodlord transition probably slipped through his mind due to his anger. Once things got down to the wire is when it finally snapped into him.

  • Idra can suck my dick.

  • Idra rocks hahahahaha XDD

  • balanced...

  • way imbalanced

  • I have a lot more respect for Drewbie, keeping his cool at least. And he STILL gg's

  • That's supposed to say Terran ball not marine ball. It's 2:38 am.

  • What was going through Idra's head for the first half hour or so? "mass ultras arent working. Hmm, what solutions do i have? Rage about terran being imbalanced? Oh and keep making more ultras which have obviously been so effective so far." He only decides to switch tactics to counter the marine ball near the end. Why didn't he switch it up earlier to brood lords? He can whine all he likes but in the end it was his reluctance to move from ultras to broods that nearly cost him the game, not an im

  • RAAAGE HAARDER

  • Wow, this was both a good and absolutely horrible map to play as Zerg vs T/P. The map was filled with expansions, and therefore so many choke points and less opportunity for surround.

    I was just thinking, in Starcraft 1, a 200/200 Zerg Army actually COULD beat a 200/200 terran army. The Ultraisks didn't do splash, but, they did decent damage and were awesome tanks. Zerglings didn't suck as much or die easily.

    Is it just me, or did Zerg become really friggin fragile? (Other than Roaches)

  • @wc1hater zerg has been deliberately made fragile due to their awsome macro mechanics.. the idea behind zerg is to resupply faster than any other race.. but to be honest if they really wanted it that way they should have added huge maps with loads of expansion possibilities.. so far i think the game is getting very close to balance tho.. in that game it was clearly not..

  • @gr4ndhustle PF are ridiculous. Expansions shouldn't defend themselves from everything for 150 gas. Or for any amount.

  • @AEgamesFtw Terran units are slow, so it's hard for Terran players to defend their expos, especially once they've moved out to attack. Terrans don't have fast units that can ice skate on creep, nor do they have the ability to teleport wherever the fuck they want. Hellions are the only fast unit in the Terran army, and they suck at defense. It's a necessary evil.

  • @elgilicious It's so hard for terrans to defend their expos with tanks and bunkers and turrets and the most effective static defence in the game.

  • @AEgamesFtw That's the smartest thing you've said all day. If the Terran has tanks and bunkers (which have to be filled with troops to be effective, btw) at his expos, then his army will be spread thin and vulnerable. Basic principle of "divide and conquer." Zerg and Protoss don't have that problem. Zerg can scurry over ASAP to a base that's under attack b/c of creep, then rejoin the main army quickly. Protoss just has to herp derp warp in whatever it needs at the moment.

  • @AEgamesFtw So you expect Terran players to Turtle all game long? When they have an inherent Economy disadvantage to Zerg as it is? Smart.

  • @realfreakaynaughtay It's possible to expand and turtle.

  • @AEgamesFtw Yea, and have no army... Plus, still be behind in workers. In general, Terran has to be offensive with Zerg to stay ahead/keep up in economy. A Turtling Terran is Zerg's best friend. Stop crying. Terran can't turtle in TvZ.

  • @AEgamesFtw i agree with you somewhat.. the thing with PF is that you need to use Storms/Fungals to easily take it down.. (or just surround it with infested terrans) if you allow the SCV's to keep repairing it, it can indeed seem quite imba for only 150 gas.. i am more of the opinion that those damned MULE's are slightly op..

  • Idra got too emotional and wasn't thinking straight. I agree with Cfserber; if Idra had focused on controlling his emotions, he probably would have made better decisions.

  • uh just a FYI husky/this commentator=terrible get laid nerd u sound like an idiot u get all excited when u dont even know whats going on u brain dead faggot ur enthusiasm is so stupid it couldnt pass first grade get laid idras the only 1 getting paid ur bitch made

  • LOL over a cup of tea. Wouldnt it be awesome to watch two british dues play SC2 during tea time? "Good shot ol'boy!" "elementry my good sir! Banelings pwn again marines." "Indeed they do!" *laugh in unison* All while sitting across the table sipping tea.

  • Not imba idra just sucks no micro

  • Idra spent the whole game making the same units instead of thinking about a good counterforce. He kept sending them in Drewbie's front door in small forces. And he kept engaging Drewbie at choke-points. At choke points, only the front ultras can do anything while the long-range terran army is still effective. Idra spent most of the game not thinking. When he FINALLY decided to start playing on Zerg strengths, he won. There's nothing imba about it. Not thinking is "imba."

  • 1:09

    weird noises :O

  • what a noob, why doesnt build some bunshees???

  • zerg is to imba

    over powered

  • I love Idra a Drewbie's relationship dynamics. Idra is hella serious and caustic and drewbie is hella laid back and friendly.

  • "Dont know why he's getting corruptors...." umm, greater spire on the way? derp derp

  • haha.. "i wouldnt play terran cuz i have selfrespect" .. legendary quote

  • @Samurailord it's funny cause he played terran in BW

  • IdRAGE

  • I fucking love IdrA. Just the way he plays, rages...

  • I want you to take a moment, and reflect on how much of a douchbag you are Idra.

    Go find a donky and show it upp your ass

  • @Constitutionen I want you take a momen, and reflect on how it's possible that you spelled douchebag, donkey and up wrong...

  • @Greenday122235 moment of reflection for you as well.

  • @Greenday122235 I love how you didn't see "shove".

  • @Greenday122235 did you mean momen or moment? :p

  • @pielava12 Mine's a typo, his was just clearly spelled wrong.

  • @Greenday122235 hahaha hi didnt see his comment\... he's so fucking dumb

  • @Greenday122235 He also said "show" instead of "shove".

  • IdrA can really be pathetic some times..

  • people only hate IdrA because he speaks the truth: Terran is fucking stupidly over powered and imbalanced.

    I don't blame IdrA for being pissed at the stupid way drewbie was playing, he was turtling like a bitch and using cheap stupid tactics like dropships.

  • Its OK if Idra rage or bitch on someone, because he is a GOD and the best zerg!

  • I almost died at the "pew pew"

  • im glad hes getting mutas more often.

    broodlord=prochoice

    drewbie should have taken to the skies

  • drewbie should have gotten banshees when he was dominating. With banshees, he could have picked of idra's armies with impunity, and also harassed his bases.

    Or, he should have gotten one or two battlecruisers with vikings. That fleet can attack Idra's bases while being untouched by the ultras.

    Failed game by drewbie to stick with the same build into the late stage and NOT attack idra with it. It was relatively mobile for a terran army and should have attacked.

    And screw u idra. Im Korean

  • @epicfail86 LOL man im guessing both of these players are better than you sooo yeah you should probably shut up drewbie didnt attack because he would loose the battles if he had he only really ahd a chance witht eh turtling also you get banshees idra could immidiatly get mutas out witht eh economy he had??

  • @IroIrish

    yeah, um i said 'failed game by drewbie to stick with the same build and not attack, which is what you, well tried to say in the third line - turtling.

    with drewbie's resoureces all he needed was to get cloa upgrade. besides, getting drewbie would have easily picked of 2-3 ultralisks before idra could react and get mutalisks out. mutas take a while to build. 2-3 ultras less would have won the game for drewbie because thors own mutas.

    learn tactics.

  • idra is a fuckin 12 year old teenager with hormone problems. Probebly cause hes still a virgin and dont have balls yet cause hes never used them, just like little kids normaly havent. Other then that, hes good, but not great.

  • @zyxid He is an absolutely great player. And don't you understand how much korean pussy being a progamer gets you?

  • @GefGZ Not a lot... stop dreaming.

  • @zyxid You have never seen idra in person have you????? HE SUCKS BADLY! i would have beaten him with 3 hatch push into roaches in first 6 mins of the game

  • idra's a little bich

  • lol drewbie is a failure in life

  • Raging through the forces of Terran I dra with his massive command over the zerg forces topple the fragile walls of Terran while raging at the same time EPIC IDRA FTW WHO CARES ABOUT RAGING ITS BOUT SKILL DAWGS

  • ZvT is imba due to auto-lose-your-army wall-ins, whereas a zerg is vulnerable anywhere. ZvP is broken because of VRs/colossi. So what's left for zerg is ZvZ, only nobody plays zerg, so...

  • I was rooting for drewbie :(

    Other guy seemed like an asshole.

  • Most entertaining in game chat of any match i've seen. Lol

  • terran is OP late game v zerg, only thing you can do is broodlords, and still then vikings kill em easily and outrange any anti air from zerg, luckily newbie didnt have enough vikings at the time

  • @gekalskip zerg late game isnt that great if you play zerg you should attack mid or early game

  • he's getting corruptors to get ready for the greater spire thats comming up.

  • Well placed Broodlords are OP. But this is clear imbalance of ZvT. It's nearly impossible to kill a Terran player. You need to starve them. Broodlords are your only chance in the late game when Terran sets up his BS static defense. But those lose to Vikings. But you'll always have that window where they won't have Vikings because Vikings are useless in ZvT for any other reason. Part of it is the map though. This isn't really a Zerg favored map because of the lack of open ground.

  • @Oreoclan

    are you kidding? lings/banelings + mass mutas = invincible against terran.

  • @bananian No... It's not... Mech demolishes it. Mech forces you to use Roaches. If you don't respond to mech properly, you WILL get demolished.

    If muta/baneling was invincible vs Terran, then Zergs would NEVER lose to Terran, but they do, and quite often.

  • HD's an idiot.. "ugh ugh ugh ugh why is he getting corruptors id ont see any battle cruisers.". well maybe broodlords>???

  • drewbie is an idiot and lost this game

  • "I wouldn't play terran because i have self respect" lmfao that made me laugh

  • broodlords....Hell, its about time.

  • The medivacs are main imba. No one else can instantly heal 90% of their army regularly, as well as having affordable, powerful units.

  • @Pataphor Here's another stupid statement from someone that sucks ass and cries when he gets 4 rax rushed, so finding some way to cry over terran. PROTOSS has shields, and dont even NEED a medivac to heal, They just wait for 20 seconds and their shields are all recharged. ZERG just need to chill for a bit and they heal themselves. Don't even get me started on how fast roaches heal when burrowed. Medivacs can only heal one unit at a time, AND they have limited heal capacity.

  • @chemao1978 but you heal WHILE IN COMBAT!! lets say 20 zerling is enough for 15 marines. if u have medics i need like 30 lings!! we dont not heal WHILE getting dmgd!! MMM is fucking bullshit

  • @Forty990 Yeah, healing one unit at a time while in battle helps so incredibly much, especially when 1 baneling can kill 5 marines in a single shot.

  • drewbie is just as bm as idra

  • props for dewbie calling "gg"

  • SOOOOOOOOO! For the whole game he ran his army into the terran and got IT ALL DIMOLISHE But he seemded to rebuild his 200/200 army ni like 5 seconds and even though he lost sooo much he still won. THATS BULLSHIT!

  • @luckycandy101

    no shit he was able to rebuild faster.. he was like 2 bases ahead of drewbie. its more bullshit that terrans army is so much more cost efficient with 200 army..

  • I actually wanted drewbie to win this just as an "in your face" method of showing IdrA that no matter what, it's just a game. And when you call someone the worst player you have ever seen and that same player is containing you and is toying with you, there is hardly anything more you can say about yourself.

  • IdrA is such a douche

  • bmer vs bmer

  • I think some of you fail to realize how Zerg is meant to be played. IdrA looked really "pro" just running his units head on and coming out with late BL. He repeated his steps over and over. He had plenty of opportunity to end the game early if he took the time to stop raging and actually use his brain. Wish Drewbie pushed in at the times he should have, although he might have been trying to show much of an idiot IdrA was being with his units. Hilarious line at the end by IdrA though B)

  • @xASYxLUMx to be fair this game was 5months old... the metagame changes really quickly for a new game like sc2.  Plus this map is mad imba against zerg. There's a reason it's no longer in the map pool.

  • my freaking favorite game! xD

  • haha that was awsome got to love idra rage :D ,, cant belive Terran lost , he should just have keep on pushing we ha had the chance

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  • i think idra played with him, i am noob at this

    really but what is the obvious zerg unit to build

    vs a very defensive terran: brood lord i am

    sure he could have gt them out a lot earlier

    and stopped it being a loooooong game.

  • "I FINALLY REALIZE WHY IDRA IS GETTING CORRUPTERS!"

    Wow. least knowledgeable caster? FTW

  • Idra's the best 12 year old player EVAAAAAAH....Wait idra's not 12?

  • @Shredow2 Coming from the spastic who wrote "EVAAAAAAAH". Good one.

  • Idra shouldn't have to tech to Broodlords to beat a faggy terran ball of marauders and thors, but blizzard loves terran in this chapter, heart of the swarm is a different story though ;) ZERG BUFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Idra is awesome. Messing with Drewbie all game. Always had the lead and always knew it.

  • Yeah, i suck? OK then, why did this guy said that is very hard to beat a terran that is in terminal phase?Just because I suck or because I am right? When i say it;s hard to play with zerg I mean that zerg always must have number supeiority, and playing with a great weak army against a strong equilibrate army makes zerg a difficult race to play with.(it's hard to coordinate that many troups when you know that they die so quick, you have to atack at the right moment).

  • What's funny is, IdrA is so cearal.

  • why didn't he got brood lords 20 minutes earlier

  • Ultralisk pathing is so fucking fail

  • @Rogerdof you really need infestors to back them up.. or they get kited like nothing

  • I can't stand Idra's bitching and moaning. If he ever makes it to Boston I'll make a video of myself giving him a Rick James bitch slap.

  • @chemao1978 You should probably enjoy the incoming lawsuit as well if you do that.

  • @Rogerdof Not worried about it.

  • I am a zerg fan and I think that beeing a zerg player requires 1.5 more skill than a terran and 2.3 more skill than a protoss.Yeah the game is unballanced.

  • @Extrasailor The game is not imbalanced; you just suck. Zerg is an incredible race. It depends on your play style.

  • @chemao1978 Pff , do you usually pick on peaple without reason and arguing?

  • @Extrasailor I'm just sick of whiney bitches like you complaining that shit is imbalanced when frankly you just suck.

  • @chemao1978 okay, so kulas ravine is balanced.

    shut the fuck up cunt