As usual the comments reveal the tendency of Muslims to blame everyone but themselves. It's almost as though they know that they aren't capable of very much, so everything they do must be because someone else made them do it. Unfortunately the idea that Islam can bring peace is self-evidently a complete lie. The Sunni Shia conflict will continue as long as Islam does.
Wahhabis are the cancer of Islam operating under the guise of Sunni Islam.. they are imposters! They are funded by the same source as Zionism who operates under the guise of Judaism! Part of the SAME system!
FUCK THE OSAMA! OSAMA IS A PUSSY WHO CANNOT COME TO IRAN BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF IRANIAN POWER! SAUDI ARABIA ASK USA AND ISRAEL TO ATTACK IRAN, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MILITARY CAPABILITY! HAHAHAHA I OWNED YOUR 72 VIRGIN MOM ASS, STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!
@jaanjannwahabi FUCK THE OSAMA! OSAMA IS A PUSSY WHO CANNOT COME TO IRAN BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF IRANIAN POWER! SAUDI ARABIA ASK USA AND ISRAEL TO ATTACK IRAN, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUCKING MILITARY CAPABILITY AGAINST HEZBOLLAH! HAHAHAHA IMAM HUSSEIN OWNED YOUR 72 VIRGIN MOM ASS, STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!
@myronattaki how are you insult & give bad name to the only true Muslims?
are you an infidel agent?
dont you know only wahabis are the great muslims thats why our countries are in peace & even the people of the west want to come & live in our countries
we have so much money our builidings & roads are so good we have latest weapons & we have an army of low caste weokers from dirty countries working live slaes for us
You are an ignorant fool brainshed by the Saudi Jews.Read history how these Najdis dacoits came to power an captured Mecca and Medina after the World War 1 with the help of British.How the British helped Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab develop a new religion Wahabism just to destroy the Ottoman Empire by dividing Muslims.You have still time to make tauba and stop defending the destroyers of blessed graves of wifes family and companions of our blessed prophet peace be opon him.
Muslims should love and respect each other, not hate and insult each other!! please, all muslims are the same. I'm saudi, and love all arab and muslims, and respect who respects me and my believes.
@jaanjannwahabi Hey gay uneducated Saudi Wahhabi fucker! Wahhabism is most kafir ideology shit ever and Saudi Arabia is the state sponsor of terrorism! You must now, learn to shut the fuck up like a good girl and stop spreading your shit terrorist infidels! Go back home and suck my big Red Shia dick, you dumb nigger motherfucker! Iran soon will destroy all Saudis kafir camel fucker after Israel! DEATH TO SAUDI ARABIA AND KING ABDULLAH!
@myronattaki ok i agree but dont say 'nigger'. call them pig instead. and secondly, iran is very very oppressive. the problem is ALL the governments of the middle east are oppressive. Muslims need freedom!!!!
The Saudi Wahabbist State is the root cause of Terror around the world. The Nasibis regard them as immortal. These are the killers of innocent people. Wahabbism is a new product in the Islamic World followed by gangs of insane and inhumane people around the world, FUNDED BY THE SAUDI GOVT.
@alnasabball Read Shaykh Imran Hussein's online book: THE CALIPHATE THE HEJAZ AND THE SAUDI-WAHHABI NATION-STATE.. The saud's are NOT Muslims they betrayed the ummah and helped the British destroy the Khilafah.. now with their fake scholars, they attempt to destroy the true Islam.. they are puppets of British and American control... and illuminati.
@alnasabball You are an ignorant fool brainshed by the Saudi Jews.Read history how these Najdis dacoits came to power an captured Mecca and Medina after the World War 1 with the help of British.How the British helped Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab develop a new religion Wahabism just to destroy the Ottoman Empire by dividing Muslims.You have still time to make tauba and stop defending the destroyers of blessed graves of wifes family and companions of our blessed prophet peace be opon him.
@alnasabball yes brother u r right.they protect makkah and madina with the help of 21 american army operational bases and 150000 american soldiers.saudia is only true islamic state
haha its no propoganda, its the facts. filthy saudi wahhabies are hated by all muslims. saudis have always been the source of problems in muslim world. traitors of the worst kind fuck suadis.
I think we all have to be a little careful wen using terms like "terrorism" and "wahhabi". These r two politically motivated western invented terms that r used according to western interpretations... hence the word terrorism can ONLY be applied to Muslims, and the descriptional term "wahhabi' is ONLY used against practicing Muslims.
Research the word wahhabi and try to find a site explaining the beleifs of self-described wahhabis>>> u wont find it>> ask urself y? Because ther is no such pl who call themselves wahhabi
Politics ppl!!! this is all leading up to a Mid-east confrontation btw Iran and the arab states, all orchestrated by the west... be weary.
IMANSMUMMA; read Wikipedia article on Wahhabis (it is 10 pages long). When you finish that then read the Wikipedia article on the Wahhab himself. When you finish that you will hate the whole set up no matter what you want to call it; Sallafi or Wahhabi. The fact is that Wahhabis have killed more Muslims than the crusaders did. This is a historical fact.
Thanku for ur reply, howeva thats the 1st place i lookd , i found:
The primary doctrine of Wahhabi is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God.[5] Ibn Abdul Wahhab was influenced by the writings of Ibn Taymiyya and questioned medieval interpretations of Islam, claiming to rely on the Qur'an and the Hadith.[5] He preached against a "perceived moral decline and political weakness" in the Arabian Peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation
Im not quite sure from this wikipedia article wut u found to be "un-islamic"?
Also, the sources used for this article have been western commentaries>>>my question is why ther is no 'wahhabi site' that talks about its OWN beleifs? The point is Wahhabism is a tag given to muslims following classical Islam by western warmongers.... the very same ones who openly want to declare war on Iran...
Its quite obvious that many ppl have fallen for this propaganda on both sides it seems....
Furthermore, some of the sites ive looked up are even saying Hamas and Ikhwan-al-muslimeen r wahhabi groups>>>>Anyone who knows a bit about Mid-east politics would find this laughable to say the least, and there is obviously a campaign to discredit certain groups who happen to be anti-zionist....
Did you say Wahhabis are anti-Zionist? Tell me what anti-Zionist operations have they ever carried out? Are they fighting with Israel? Has Al-Qaeda (the flagship of Wahhabis) carried any operations against the Zionists? As far as I know they have only killed a few hundred Christians and tens of thousands of Muslims so far!
U misunderstood me on this point>>> i was reffering to the point wher "anti-wahabbists' label groups like Hamas and ikhwan el-muslimeen as wahabbi in order to discredit them, it rings alarm bells that ther is a political agenda playing out>>> tell me, from ur understanding of what this wahabism group espouses, do these 2 mentioned groups belong to wahabbism?
IMANSMUMMA there are millions of websites (lots of them hosted in Israel) that claim lots of rubbish. Use your head and analyze what they say and decide for yourself which one is a fake!
We are all educated and bright people, Jews and Wahhabis cannot fool us. If Hamas was Wahhabi the Saudi Wahhabis would not help Israel to kill them! Do you apprehend Amigo?
Thats the thing bro, ive read quite a bit randomly on the net and none of it comes from a 'wahabbi source'>i havnt come across a site that says what wahabbi's beleifs r that differentiate them from normal sunnis (i find this very troubling as this leaves the door open 4 any1 2 b labeled wahabbi in order 2 demonise them the same way the term terrorist is used in the west). The saudi government is no different to the other arab dictators, they r all western puppets, wahabbism has nada 2 do with it
IMANSMUMMA westerns and non-Muslims scholars are actually more reliable when it comes to studying Islam because they dont have to take side based on their own religious belives. As for the Wahhab; he was questioned and discredited by other Sunni Muslim scholars and was eventually exiled and Saud family gave him refuge and later even forced all of their subject to convert to Wahhabisim. Wahhabis were the instrument of the British for defeating the Ottomans and eventually destruction of ...
Wahhabis killed millions of the Sunni Otthoman Muslims for the British and have actually killed more Muslims than the crusaders killed.
As a matter of interest, are you Wahhabi / Sallafi yourself?
I am willing to discuss the topic with you but only if you are not a Wahhabi yourself because if you are one you will be inclined to accept the facts due to your preferences.
To be honest, i have never heard this narrative on the war that lead to the end of the ottomans>> i know that Shariff Hussein(great grandfather of jordan's king abdullah) was the one leading the revolt against the empire, and he was no wahabbi i can assure u! Im surprised u state millions of turks were killed even during this war, do u have a source i can check out for my own information?
I am Muslim alhamdullilah just as the Prophet SAS was, thats all that matters
Western sources on Islam are far from bias bro, once again u really need to keep in mind the current world political climate (a good example of such bias was the fallout from 911 and the crap that was being spewed by so called 'experts";)
The question im trying to get at is what exactly did Al-Wahhab preach that was rejected by other muslims? On wikipedia, nothing seemed to contradict islamic teachings?
U giv 'wahabism' 2 much credit 4 the fall of the ottomans> arab nationalsm is 2 blame mostly
arab nationalsm is 2 blame mostly?!!!! before the fall of the ottoman empire there was no nationalism! the traitors who worked from inside to dismantel the Ottoman Empire was the al saud and their priests (wahhabies) and the young turks.
Bro, what source r u using to get this info from? As an arab whose uncles lived thru this time of ottoman upheaval i can assure u the driving force behind it was arab nationalism, they naively thought by joining the brits they would all have their own countries, ofcourse they all regret it now (they didnt count on being ruled by ruthless western dictators). If the scenario u speak of did infact occur, y is the level of influence of these 'wahabbis' so restricted 2 SA rather than across the ME?
IMANSMUMA: Exposing Wahhabis, the Priests of the Zionist slaves ( Al Saud ), will lead to the liberation of Muslims, the Holy Muslim sites and lands from their Grips..
Brother, this is what im trying to understand here>>> Many members of the Saudi royal family are far from being religious (a well known fact), and r indeed very corrupt and have made alliences with zionists. However wahabbists r sposed to be very religious ppl, so how can these folk be wahabbi?
Re: However wahabbists are supposed to be very religious people.
LOL, didn't you tell me that there was no such a thing as Wahhabis? Now you are telling me that Wahhabis are religious! If there is no such a thing called Wahhabis then how can they be religious?
By the way Wahhabis killed over 300 Muslims in Iraq in the last two days; you can expect revenge anytime soon.
hehehe... wallah ur confusing me;) So r they or arent they religious? I assumed that ppl who r viewed as being religious are labelled wahabbi (thats how it seems anyways)... and the saudi royals being far from religious makes them opposites rather than one and the same entity (but from wut ive read it seems they share an 'unholy' allience so to speak)
U seem to take pleasure in ther being revenge>>> cant u see thru this whole sectarian crap? Divide and conquer?????? Wen will we learn?
IMANSMUMMA; Bahhais and Ahmadis are religious too but their religion is false! Yahoodis and Christians are religiuos too but they kill the Muslims like the Wahhabis do!
As for revenge; Ghassass is a God given right. If we do not take Ghessass/revenge they will keep killing us. God's laws are all for good reasons. If it WAS NOT for an eye for an eye law lots of people would be blind today.
i can c ur point of view bro, but i think we r mixing up politics, arab rulership tyranny, religion and sectariansm. The message portrayed seems to lump religion with the corrupt leadership of SA as 1 and the same thing, i fail to c how that works considering Saudi jails r full of such 'wahabbist' scholars for their very stances they take against the Royals' coruption
And u havnt clarified wut u perceive to be the differnce btw mainstream sunnism and wahhabism in regards to religious beleifs?
What part of their 'stupid way' do u deem stupid regarding the beleif system may i ask (maybe it can help me understand ur viewpoint better)? Like give an example of wut they deem kuffur that u disagree with?
and im sorry bro, but both partys in Iraq today killing each other whilst the US cheer on is nothing more than sick. Im disapointd that u encourage it, this sectarianism is wut is holding back the ummah from defeating the true enemies of Islam who have openly declared war on the ummah...
For Allah's sake, the yahood r laughing at us whilst we fall for their divide and conquer strategy whilst US soldiers r raping our women..our daughters r being forced into prostitution..wake up ppl!
U speak of Qassaas>>this should never be done by individuals but through the Islamic court of law:
"Criminal rulings are to be applied by a government and never by individuals. If we leave it up to individuals to apply the Islamic law, society will become chaotic. Thus, it is prohibited for an individual Muslim to apply such laws on his or her own, even if the government falls short in applying such laws, from that individual's point of view"
Bro, if someone killed my baby son in a war and i suspect the person who did it was for example a 'wahhabi', im not going to go around randomly killing men, women and children who belong to these ppl, u bring the suspect before a court to be judged whereby Qassaas can be applied>>> it is not for the ppl to take the law into their own hands. If this were the case then honour killings would be allowed as well etc... Islam is more organised and just than this.....
encryptedreality why do you deny the truth? If you were a real Muslim you would know that is a sin. But if you are a Wahhabi you are not a Muslim and can deny anything you want!
I would kill my self if i was a wahhabi... It's not a sin.. This arab leaders are nothing but traitors and zionists, do u support them? They're nothing but a bunch of foxes and crows... Arrival of Mahdi a.s is near, we must unite against all the zionists, Including those wahhabis
As usual the comments reveal the tendency of Muslims to blame everyone but themselves. It's almost as though they know that they aren't capable of very much, so everything they do must be because someone else made them do it. Unfortunately the idea that Islam can bring peace is self-evidently a complete lie. The Sunni Shia conflict will continue as long as Islam does.
ritchloui 4 months ago
curses on all Muslims who HATE wahabis
making fun of Wahabis is haram
and a person commiting haram is not a muslim but infidel
so no more 72 virgins for you
jaanjannwahabi 5 months ago
curses to all Muslims who have Wahabis
Wahabis are the true owners of Heaven
wahab is the name of Allah
therefore we wahabis are the best people of Allah
you are all jealous because you dont have much money like us
jaanjannwahabi 5 months ago
Wahhabis are the cancer of Islam operating under the guise of Sunni Islam.. they are imposters! They are funded by the same source as Zionism who operates under the guise of Judaism! Part of the SAME system!
MissConceptions1 7 months ago 2
@MissConceptions1 Wahhabism & Zionism are the Two Horns of Satan.
otraverdad 7 months ago 2
@otraverdad My brother you are soooo right!
MissConceptions1 7 months ago
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FUCK THE OSAMA! OSAMA IS A PUSSY WHO CANNOT COME TO IRAN BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF IRANIAN POWER! SAUDI ARABIA ASK USA AND ISRAEL TO ATTACK IRAN, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MILITARY CAPABILITY! HAHAHAHA I OWNED YOUR 72 VIRGIN MOM ASS, STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!
myronattaki 1 year ago
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@jaanjannwahabi FUCK THE OSAMA! OSAMA IS A PUSSY WHO CANNOT COME TO IRAN BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF IRANIAN POWER! SAUDI ARABIA ASK USA AND ISRAEL TO ATTACK IRAN, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUCKING MILITARY CAPABILITY AGAINST HEZBOLLAH! HAHAHAHA IMAM HUSSEIN OWNED YOUR 72 VIRGIN MOM ASS, STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!
myronattaki 1 year ago
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myronattaki 1 year ago
Fuck the Salafis Wahhabist and death to that no.1 dicksucker gay fucker King Abdullah!
myronattaki 1 year ago
@myronattaki how are you insult & give bad name to the only true Muslims?
are you an infidel agent?
dont you know only wahabis are the great muslims thats why our countries are in peace & even the people of the west want to come & live in our countries
we have so much money our builidings & roads are so good we have latest weapons & we have an army of low caste weokers from dirty countries working live slaes for us
what you got?
only jealousy!!!
curse you
jaanjannwahabi 1 year ago
@jaanjannwahabi u r a kafir
lajungesombre 5 months ago
You are an ignorant fool brainshed by the Saudi Jews.Read history how these Najdis dacoits came to power an captured Mecca and Medina after the World War 1 with the help of British.How the British helped Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab develop a new religion Wahabism just to destroy the Ottoman Empire by dividing Muslims.You have still time to make tauba and stop defending the destroyers of blessed graves of wifes family and companions of our blessed prophet peace be opon him.
iftekhar62 1 year ago
I can't believe that gentleman said that. I believe that too. People see people they hate as "the other"...not human.
edmonddantes64 1 year ago
Muslims should love and respect each other, not hate and insult each other!! please, all muslims are the same. I'm saudi, and love all arab and muslims, and respect who respects me and my believes.
meshal15 1 year ago
only wahabi faith has shown the right path of Islam to people of the world
& Allah has granted His Blessing by shwoering us with the wealth of Oil & the chance to lead prayers in Mecca
all other sects have to follow the wahabi prayer
this is the best proof that wahabism is the only tue Islam
therefore I always support Sheikh Osmana and Mullah Omar (mayt heir tribe increase)
jaanjannwahabi 1 year ago
Stop this Disgusting propoganda against the pure faith of Islam
Wahabi are the only & best follwers of Islam
Shia are Kafir
Sunni are misgudied & Musrik
jaanjannwahabi 1 year ago
@jaanjannwahabi Hey gay uneducated Saudi Wahhabi fucker! Wahhabism is most kafir ideology shit ever and Saudi Arabia is the state sponsor of terrorism! You must now, learn to shut the fuck up like a good girl and stop spreading your shit terrorist infidels! Go back home and suck my big Red Shia dick, you dumb nigger motherfucker! Iran soon will destroy all Saudis kafir camel fucker after Israel! DEATH TO SAUDI ARABIA AND KING ABDULLAH!
myronattaki 1 year ago
@myronattaki SHUT UP YOU SHIA KAFIR FOOL OF FOOLS
it is haram to insult a wahabi because wahabis are the only true Muslims
all other sects are haram & infidels
only wahabis have the wealth & enjoyment
you people have sufferings
you are just jealous of us
whether we jihad against the weak faith traitor muslims or rafadis like you or we enjoy the rewards of Allah we are the prized ones
you just cant accept that we will get 72 virgins because we are pure & true Muslims the way Islam should have
jaanjannwahabi 1 year ago
@jaanjannwahabi u r a kafir. Shia/Sunni unity for ever! human unity forever!
lajungesombre 5 months ago
@myronattaki ok i agree but dont say 'nigger'. call them pig instead. and secondly, iran is very very oppressive. the problem is ALL the governments of the middle east are oppressive. Muslims need freedom!!!!
lajungesombre 5 months ago
The saud family are put in power and protected by the dajjal forerunners, U.K and U.S.
They do not call for caliphate or establish caliphate as they are the ones who help brought it down in the first place!!
Shabzana 1 year ago
fuck these wahabi asshole hypocrites in their asses
terajasoos 1 year ago
The Saudi Wahabbist State is the root cause of Terror around the world. The Nasibis regard them as immortal. These are the killers of innocent people. Wahabbism is a new product in the Islamic World followed by gangs of insane and inhumane people around the world, FUNDED BY THE SAUDI GOVT.
tomcatflanker 2 years ago
... saudi is the only true islamic state left thanks to al saud .. so why do hate on al saud when they are keeping makkah and madinah safe..
alnasabball 2 years ago
Al Saud are not muslims nor their priests the Wahabies, they are the products of the british secret services..
Please check the link on the info box
otraverdad 2 years ago 3
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flouka9 1 year ago
@alnasabball Read Shaykh Imran Hussein's online book: THE CALIPHATE THE HEJAZ AND THE SAUDI-WAHHABI NATION-STATE.. The saud's are NOT Muslims they betrayed the ummah and helped the British destroy the Khilafah.. now with their fake scholars, they attempt to destroy the true Islam.. they are puppets of British and American control... and illuminati.
MissConceptions1 1 year ago
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@alnasabball You are an ignorant fool brainshed by the Saudi Jews.Read history how these Najdis dacoits came to power an captured Mecca and Medina after the World War 1 with the help of British.How the British helped Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab develop a new religion Wahabism just to destroy the Ottoman Empire by dividing Muslims.You have still time to make tauba and stop defending the destroyers of blessed graves of wifes family and companions of our blessed prophet peace be opon him.
iftekhar62 1 year ago
@alnasabball yes brother u r right.they protect makkah and madina with the help of 21 american army operational bases and 150000 american soldiers.saudia is only true islamic state
indusdolphinss 1 year ago
@alnasabball fuck u pig
lajungesombre 5 months ago
iranian propaganda ...
TMT4400 2 years ago
Wow.. You want to say that Iranis control Channel 1 (Saudi TV) and Memri Tv (zionist TV)!!!!?
لاحول ولاقوة الا بالله العلي العظيم
otraverdad 2 years ago 7
haha its no propoganda, its the facts. filthy saudi wahhabies are hated by all muslims. saudis have always been the source of problems in muslim world. traitors of the worst kind fuck suadis.
zodeloni 2 years ago 12
fuck you wahhabi. i am syrian sunni i hate u fucking wahhabis
zodeloni 2 years ago 13
@zodeloni you'r not syrian and not sunni
YOU FUCKING IRANIAN DOG
TMT4400 2 years ago
lol you saudi animals let 5 year old girls marry 60 year old men. you saudis do all that.
zodeloni 2 years ago 3
fuck you u filthy wahabi dog dont bark here go and park to your british masters
FUCKZIONISM666 2 years ago
@TMT4400 u love tyranny?
lajungesombre 5 months ago
its always been them, its like they are the source of the problems in the muslim world
MuslimahfromJannah 2 years ago 4
I think we all have to be a little careful wen using terms like "terrorism" and "wahhabi". These r two politically motivated western invented terms that r used according to western interpretations... hence the word terrorism can ONLY be applied to Muslims, and the descriptional term "wahhabi' is ONLY used against practicing Muslims.
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IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
Research the word wahhabi and try to find a site explaining the beleifs of self-described wahhabis>>> u wont find it>> ask urself y? Because ther is no such pl who call themselves wahhabi
Politics ppl!!! this is all leading up to a Mid-east confrontation btw Iran and the arab states, all orchestrated by the west... be weary.
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
IMANSMUMMA; read Wikipedia article on Wahhabis (it is 10 pages long). When you finish that then read the Wikipedia article on the Wahhab himself. When you finish that you will hate the whole set up no matter what you want to call it; Sallafi or Wahhabi. The fact is that Wahhabis have killed more Muslims than the crusaders did. This is a historical fact.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Thanku for ur reply, howeva thats the 1st place i lookd , i found:
The primary doctrine of Wahhabi is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God.[5] Ibn Abdul Wahhab was influenced by the writings of Ibn Taymiyya and questioned medieval interpretations of Islam, claiming to rely on the Qur'an and the Hadith.[5] He preached against a "perceived moral decline and political weakness" in the Arabian Peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
ZedYahood2:
Im not quite sure from this wikipedia article wut u found to be "un-islamic"?
Also, the sources used for this article have been western commentaries>>>my question is why ther is no 'wahhabi site' that talks about its OWN beleifs? The point is Wahhabism is a tag given to muslims following classical Islam by western warmongers.... the very same ones who openly want to declare war on Iran...
Its quite obvious that many ppl have fallen for this propaganda on both sides it seems....
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
@ZedYahood:
Furthermore, some of the sites ive looked up are even saying Hamas and Ikhwan-al-muslimeen r wahhabi groups>>>>Anyone who knows a bit about Mid-east politics would find this laughable to say the least, and there is obviously a campaign to discredit certain groups who happen to be anti-zionist....
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
Did you say Wahhabis are anti-Zionist? Tell me what anti-Zionist operations have they ever carried out? Are they fighting with Israel? Has Al-Qaeda (the flagship of Wahhabis) carried any operations against the Zionists? As far as I know they have only killed a few hundred Christians and tens of thousands of Muslims so far!
Am I missing something here?
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
U misunderstood me on this point>>> i was reffering to the point wher "anti-wahabbists' label groups like Hamas and ikhwan el-muslimeen as wahabbi in order to discredit them, it rings alarm bells that ther is a political agenda playing out>>> tell me, from ur understanding of what this wahabism group espouses, do these 2 mentioned groups belong to wahabbism?
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
IMANSMUMMA there are millions of websites (lots of them hosted in Israel) that claim lots of rubbish. Use your head and analyze what they say and decide for yourself which one is a fake!
We are all educated and bright people, Jews and Wahhabis cannot fool us. If Hamas was Wahhabi the Saudi Wahhabis would not help Israel to kill them! Do you apprehend Amigo?
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Thats the thing bro, ive read quite a bit randomly on the net and none of it comes from a 'wahabbi source'>i havnt come across a site that says what wahabbi's beleifs r that differentiate them from normal sunnis (i find this very troubling as this leaves the door open 4 any1 2 b labeled wahabbi in order 2 demonise them the same way the term terrorist is used in the west). The saudi government is no different to the other arab dictators, they r all western puppets, wahabbism has nada 2 do with it
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
IMANSMUMMA westerns and non-Muslims scholars are actually more reliable when it comes to studying Islam because they dont have to take side based on their own religious belives. As for the Wahhab; he was questioned and discredited by other Sunni Muslim scholars and was eventually exiled and Saud family gave him refuge and later even forced all of their subject to convert to Wahhabisim. Wahhabis were the instrument of the British for defeating the Ottomans and eventually destruction of ...
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
... of the Islamic Caliphate.
Wahhabis killed millions of the Sunni Otthoman Muslims for the British and have actually killed more Muslims than the crusaders killed.
As a matter of interest, are you Wahhabi / Sallafi yourself?
I am willing to discuss the topic with you but only if you are not a Wahhabi yourself because if you are one you will be inclined to accept the facts due to your preferences.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
PS: Can you tell me why Wahhabis insist that there is no such a thing called Wahhabi when 1.7 billion Muslims call them Wahhabis?
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
To be honest, i have never heard this narrative on the war that lead to the end of the ottomans>> i know that Shariff Hussein(great grandfather of jordan's king abdullah) was the one leading the revolt against the empire, and he was no wahabbi i can assure u! Im surprised u state millions of turks were killed even during this war, do u have a source i can check out for my own information?
I am Muslim alhamdullilah just as the Prophet SAS was, thats all that matters
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
Western sources on Islam are far from bias bro, once again u really need to keep in mind the current world political climate (a good example of such bias was the fallout from 911 and the crap that was being spewed by so called 'experts";)
The question im trying to get at is what exactly did Al-Wahhab preach that was rejected by other muslims? On wikipedia, nothing seemed to contradict islamic teachings?
U giv 'wahabism' 2 much credit 4 the fall of the ottomans> arab nationalsm is 2 blame mostly
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
arab nationalsm is 2 blame mostly?!!!! before the fall of the ottoman empire there was no nationalism! the traitors who worked from inside to dismantel the Ottoman Empire was the al saud and their priests (wahhabies) and the young turks.
otraverdad 2 years ago
Bro, what source r u using to get this info from? As an arab whose uncles lived thru this time of ottoman upheaval i can assure u the driving force behind it was arab nationalism, they naively thought by joining the brits they would all have their own countries, ofcourse they all regret it now (they didnt count on being ruled by ruthless western dictators). If the scenario u speak of did infact occur, y is the level of influence of these 'wahabbis' so restricted 2 SA rather than across the ME?
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
Please watch:
watch?v=us-02KdlRAE&feature=related
The story of the 3 bulls is exactly wut is happening rite now.....
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
IMANSMUMA: Exposing Wahhabis, the Priests of the Zionist slaves ( Al Saud ), will lead to the liberation of Muslims, the Holy Muslim sites and lands from their Grips..
otraverdad 2 years ago
Brother, this is what im trying to understand here>>> Many members of the Saudi royal family are far from being religious (a well known fact), and r indeed very corrupt and have made alliences with zionists. However wahabbists r sposed to be very religious ppl, so how can these folk be wahabbi?
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
IMANSMUMMA;
Re: However wahabbists are supposed to be very religious people.
LOL, didn't you tell me that there was no such a thing as Wahhabis? Now you are telling me that Wahhabis are religious! If there is no such a thing called Wahhabis then how can they be religious?
By the way Wahhabis killed over 300 Muslims in Iraq in the last two days; you can expect revenge anytime soon.
An eye for an eye.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
hehehe... wallah ur confusing me;) So r they or arent they religious? I assumed that ppl who r viewed as being religious are labelled wahabbi (thats how it seems anyways)... and the saudi royals being far from religious makes them opposites rather than one and the same entity (but from wut ive read it seems they share an 'unholy' allience so to speak)
U seem to take pleasure in ther being revenge>>> cant u see thru this whole sectarian crap? Divide and conquer?????? Wen will we learn?
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
IMANSMUMMA; Bahhais and Ahmadis are religious too but their religion is false! Yahoodis and Christians are religiuos too but they kill the Muslims like the Wahhabis do!
As for revenge; Ghassass is a God given right. If we do not take Ghessass/revenge they will keep killing us. God's laws are all for good reasons. If it WAS NOT for an eye for an eye law lots of people would be blind today.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Y is evryone here avoiding the simple question:
WHAT ARE WAHHABI BELEIFS THAT DISTINGUISH THEM FROM MAINSTREAM SUNNIS?
U guys r all just labelling a group that is not clearly defined, pretty much the same way how america uses the word terrorist...
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
@IMANSMUMMA: SEEMS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SAUDI OFICIAL IS TALKING ABOUT !
WAHHABIES label the believers who don't agree 100% of their stupid way of thinking as BLASPHEMERS.... AND IN THE END THEY KILL THEM.
otraverdad 2 years ago
i can c ur point of view bro, but i think we r mixing up politics, arab rulership tyranny, religion and sectariansm. The message portrayed seems to lump religion with the corrupt leadership of SA as 1 and the same thing, i fail to c how that works considering Saudi jails r full of such 'wahabbist' scholars for their very stances they take against the Royals' coruption
And u havnt clarified wut u perceive to be the differnce btw mainstream sunnism and wahhabism in regards to religious beleifs?
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
What part of their 'stupid way' do u deem stupid regarding the beleif system may i ask (maybe it can help me understand ur viewpoint better)? Like give an example of wut they deem kuffur that u disagree with?
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
@IMANSMUMMA
WAHHABI = BACKWOOD = BLOODSHED = TERRORISM
flouka9 1 year ago
@ZedYahood:
and im sorry bro, but both partys in Iraq today killing each other whilst the US cheer on is nothing more than sick. Im disapointd that u encourage it, this sectarianism is wut is holding back the ummah from defeating the true enemies of Islam who have openly declared war on the ummah...
For Allah's sake, the yahood r laughing at us whilst we fall for their divide and conquer strategy whilst US soldiers r raping our women..our daughters r being forced into prostitution..wake up ppl!
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
@ZedYahood:
U speak of Qassaas>>this should never be done by individuals but through the Islamic court of law:
"Criminal rulings are to be applied by a government and never by individuals. If we leave it up to individuals to apply the Islamic law, society will become chaotic. Thus, it is prohibited for an individual Muslim to apply such laws on his or her own, even if the government falls short in applying such laws, from that individual's point of view"
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
@ZedYahood:
RE Al-Qassaas
Bro, if someone killed my baby son in a war and i suspect the person who did it was for example a 'wahhabi', im not going to go around randomly killing men, women and children who belong to these ppl, u bring the suspect before a court to be judged whereby Qassaas can be applied>>> it is not for the ppl to take the law into their own hands. If this were the case then honour killings would be allowed as well etc... Islam is more organised and just than this.....
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
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Please watch:
watch?v=us-02KdlRAE&feature=related
The story of the 3 bulls is exactly wut is happening rite now.....
IMANSMUMMA 2 years ago
Great sound effects bro,
encryptedreality 2 years ago
encryptedreality why do you deny the truth? If you were a real Muslim you would know that is a sin. But if you are a Wahhabi you are not a Muslim and can deny anything you want!
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
I would kill my self if i was a wahhabi... It's not a sin.. This arab leaders are nothing but traitors and zionists, do u support them? They're nothing but a bunch of foxes and crows... Arrival of Mahdi a.s is near, we must unite against all the zionists, Including those wahhabis
encryptedreality 2 years ago
Although these 2 men are right that Wahabism is THE problem within Muslims, the Jews love it and ask for more and support the Jewish house of Saud.
asperin 2 years ago 3
gr8 videooo mASHALLAH
songyoutub 2 years ago