is there anyway you know what alnico magnet is used in this and other paf's? i love jimmy page's tone from his late 50's les paul and the beano tone, but i can't find info on it.
Sorry if it is a dumb question, but are you from ThroBak Electronics (ThroBak Pickups)?
If so, how close are your pickups to this one on the video? I saw Gregor Hilden demoing the SLE-101 LTD set and they sound fatter and with a little less dinamic response (different amp?).
Yes I make Throbak pickups. What you are hearing is the difference in amps and settings. If you doing an A/B comparison with the same amp and guitar this PAF is actually a little fatter in tone than the SLE-101 LTD neck pickup.
I love the wah/vowel type sound he gets when he rolls the tone down between 1:22 - 1:27. Definately PIO caps. Probably even Bumblebees to get that kind of tone!!! I'm green with envy!!!
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Please don't give me thumbs down, but how do paf neck humbuckers compare to fender wide range buckers. I like both but never compared them side by side.
@tokojojiji Yah I know that but I was asking what the difference in tone yah know like how much more midrange/treble relative to the bass end. And how did I know my comment would get crucified. lolz
That position sounds pretty good when you roll off on the tone knob and feather pick. Its kinda sad when strat palyers buy a Paul and make it sound bright and pick realy hard to get that SRV quack tone. Strats BTW have sustain of a banjo!
I HAVE 3 1971 T-TOP's the best pick up i have ever heard, sound much like the origianl paf's on my les paul custom black beauty (looks like peter framptons) and the tone conrols are all original with wierd looking compacitors that you don't see anymore tone from hell
O.K. now I'm confused. Are these original vintage PAF's (i.e. long magnet from before 1960) or ThroBak PAF's. They better be ThroBak's, because I have a set on order and that tone was killer!
Nice - sounds like a lot of what Clapton was going for in the early days. Then again, I'm young, so maybe my opinions on "the early days" should be kept to myself:P:) Either way, sounds good to the recent convert to Seth Lover loving:D I'm considering getting a Tele and putting the SD SL at the neck and some sort of Esquire-esque pup at the bridge. Thoughts?
no the sustain is made by the bridge and the magnetic pull of your pickup so if u get any vintage humbucker itll have good sustain also slant paddle head stock add sustain
sustain also comes form the neck, the body, the type of wood , the electronics, the player, old paf pickups dont always sound great either. the newer seymour duncan PAFs are much better. the old pafs had no consistancy, as they wernt made at gibson but by subcontractors, who used all different types of slug poles, sizes and alloys
Excuse me, I meant a pair of Alnico II Pro (Neck and Bridge), and Slash uses a Fishman PowerBridge (Tune o Matic Bridge) that helps him get his signature tone.
Many companies do make PAF-type pickups. The problem with making a replica of them, though, is that there is no one PAF sound. They varied winds and magnets during the early years. So every PAF remake is a more or less valid variation on the PAF. But for the most authentic remakes of the PAF, Seymour Duncan makes the Antiquity Humbuckers, which are painstaking recreations of the originals. They use the exact materials, and artificial aging processes. The result is basically a great PAF.
as far as i know, SD bought the kalamazoo pickup winding machine when that plant closed down so the pickups are wound on the same machine as the original 50s PAFs.
PAF's were machine wound. There was more that one machine used to wind them but most were wound on the Leesona 102 winding machine. Seymour Duncan has one of the machines. I have one as well. I am not aware of any other pickup makers that have this machine. Set-up of the winding machine plays a big part in the variation and tonal differences of PAF's. Vintage winding machines like the Leesona 102 have their own unique winding pattern that can't be duplicated by hand.
is there anyway you know what alnico magnet is used in this and other paf's? i love jimmy page's tone from his late 50's les paul and the beano tone, but i can't find info on it.
mistad00m 1 year ago
Do you know what year the pickup or guitar is?
jacobtheguitarfreak 1 year ago
Jon,
Is this the pickup you used for the DT model? thanks Bruce
59vampire 1 year ago
Sorry if it is a dumb question, but are you from ThroBak Electronics (ThroBak Pickups)?
If so, how close are your pickups to this one on the video? I saw Gregor Hilden demoing the SLE-101 LTD set and they sound fatter and with a little less dinamic response (different amp?).
Thanks!
pjr779 1 year ago
Yes I make Throbak pickups. What you are hearing is the difference in amps and settings. If you doing an A/B comparison with the same amp and guitar this PAF is actually a little fatter in tone than the SLE-101 LTD neck pickup.
ThroBakElectronics 1 year ago
Nothing better than a beautiful neck pickup. :)
DiabeticFury14 1 year ago
That to me defines the sound of a vintage paff. It is the standard to measure others!!
tele100 1 year ago
damn i love this tone, it's freakin sweet, and i love those tasteful licks :P
drivershigh29 1 year ago
hey man what kind of room were you playing this in? Is that reverb from the amp or just au natural, cuz it sounds great!
MyManDan 1 year ago
I love the wah/vowel type sound he gets when he rolls the tone down between 1:22 - 1:27. Definately PIO caps. Probably even Bumblebees to get that kind of tone!!! I'm green with envy!!!
racinjason95 1 year ago
are these the pu's used to model the dt-102's?
rw5791 1 year ago
wow. real PAF sounds. nicee
adam10603 2 years ago
which are better ANTIQUITY HUMBUCKER or
EMG SELECT HUMBUKERS??
Metallicaforever95 2 years ago
Antiquities !!!!!!
jp6l6 2 years ago
EMG's? batteries are for flashlights.
deepblue1963 2 years ago 20
@Metallicaforever95 EMG's suck, especially if you're playing through a small amp.
DisasterBlaster500 1 year ago
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Please don't give me thumbs down, but how do paf neck humbuckers compare to fender wide range buckers. I like both but never compared them side by side.
EPICFAILSAM 2 years ago
The pafs are better trust me
tokojojiji 1 year ago
@tokojojiji Yah I know that but I was asking what the difference in tone yah know like how much more midrange/treble relative to the bass end. And how did I know my comment would get crucified. lolz
EPICFAILSAM 1 year ago
Loved it! Unbeatable guitar blues
dimlocator44 2 years ago
wow listen to that bite! love the les paul;
TheHabit00 2 years ago
way too much crappy delay...
LesParadyz 2 years ago
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Sounds good! But, I think a modern Gibson 57 Classic sounds just as good.
murfdog19 2 years ago
That position sounds pretty good when you roll off on the tone knob and feather pick. Its kinda sad when strat palyers buy a Paul and make it sound bright and pick realy hard to get that SRV quack tone. Strats BTW have sustain of a banjo!
Snotra 2 years ago
I'll show you sustain on a Strat which will floor most LPs I've played :)
spameister 2 years ago
i for got to mention my les paul is 14 pounds! solid body very heavey but i love it that way sustain for days
THOUSEoftheALMIGHTY 2 years ago
@THOUSEoftheALMIGHTY 14 pound guitars rock! I can't play anything lighter than 11 pounds.
IrishAmericanPride 2 years ago
I HAVE 3 1971 T-TOP's the best pick up i have ever heard, sound much like the origianl paf's on my les paul custom black beauty (looks like peter framptons) and the tone conrols are all original with wierd looking compacitors that you don't see anymore tone from hell
THOUSEoftheALMIGHTY 2 years ago
do you have the volume backed off? hmmmm
camaro101 2 years ago
super bluesy ballsy tone. Gotta have it!!
clehneis 2 years ago 10
he's using a princeton, theyre bright amps. I think it sounds like a blues guitar sound should here.
kickcableguyinnuts 2 years ago 4
PAF has sort of a bite to its sound.
davidchila 2 years ago 2
Amazing tone..... as expected from a real PAF. So how close are the pups you wind?
AndrasSimon 2 years ago 3
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I don't like it. Too bright.
SlyStrat 2 years ago
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turn the treble down some...
ujohn9 2 years ago
Its tough to make the neck pickup sound as clear as this one is so if its too bright for you just roll the tone knob down a touch.
clehneis 2 years ago 4
Incredible. The top end of that neck pickup is amazing. I take it that this is one of the PAFs that you guys cloned?
Al112987 2 years ago
O.K. now I'm confused. Are these original vintage PAF's (i.e. long magnet from before 1960) or ThroBak PAF's. They better be ThroBak's, because I have a set on order and that tone was killer!
delloo 3 years ago
original PAF
clehneis 2 years ago
Hi is that a small humbucker?? or a p90??
felipescalador 3 years ago
i actually think its one of those new seymour duncan p-rails pickups. I believe that SRV guy used them
vinvinvin 3 years ago
whoever gave your comment a thumbs up is verrry dumb.
kingster911 2 years ago
@vinvinvin @felipescalador: ...seriously?
InevitableGravity 2 years ago
Nice - sounds like a lot of what Clapton was going for in the early days. Then again, I'm young, so maybe my opinions on "the early days" should be kept to myself:P:) Either way, sounds good to the recent convert to Seth Lover loving:D I'm considering getting a Tele and putting the SD SL at the neck and some sort of Esquire-esque pup at the bridge. Thoughts?
yobhsiFehT 3 years ago
cool blues man. May I ask if you know the output rating on that pu??
bossmxr1 3 years ago
7.65K.
ThroBakPAF 3 years ago
I love that warm, gritty tone! This is the epitome of good tone. Expressive and raw at the same time!
davo171 3 years ago
mmm.. the lovely sound come from that beauty guitar
nikolasredondo 3 years ago
Dude ITS ORIGINAL!
thelefty300 3 years ago
No it's a vintage PAF.
ThroBakPAF 3 years ago
sweet-warm-mellow-hot-gotta share this one
Mellifluous49 3 years ago
You have some great licks.. tone is fantastic and you have soul in your playing!
MORE VIDS?
Cheers
s
StowBurst 3 years ago 2
wow, the narrow spacing doesn't seem to matter all that much does it? Now all I need is a vintage Byrdland or ES and a chainsaw!
cl0udtop 3 years ago
Magick!!
pascalsantana 3 years ago
The seth lover sounds like this? thank you
cosn2009 3 years ago
this may sound stupid but will you get more sustain by putting gibson pickups in another type of guitar..specificall Godin
gooftroop009 3 years ago
no the sustain is made by the bridge and the magnetic pull of your pickup so if u get any vintage humbucker itll have good sustain also slant paddle head stock add sustain
OzzmanX30 3 years ago
sustain also comes form the neck, the body, the type of wood , the electronics, the player, old paf pickups dont always sound great either. the newer seymour duncan PAFs are much better. the old pafs had no consistancy, as they wernt made at gibson but by subcontractors, who used all different types of slug poles, sizes and alloys
petegoyeroslin 3 years ago
what will be the best pickups for sweet child o' mine?
darkrider221 3 years ago
Dunno about that song specifically, but most of Slash's electric guitars have Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro pickups in them
kenan6346 3 years ago
Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro in Neck and a Fishman PowerBrige in the bridge for most of his guitars
FFXGuitar 3 years ago
Excuse me, I meant a pair of Alnico II Pro (Neck and Bridge), and Slash uses a Fishman PowerBridge (Tune o Matic Bridge) that helps him get his signature tone.
FFXGuitar 3 years ago
from wich year is that les paul?
it really sounds great!!!
great playin'
samguitarmurphy 3 years ago
I love it's old crunch more than my SH1'n 59's clarity on my Ibanez SZ
alphaBootes 3 years ago
Are you plugged straight into the amp?
computerblue1 3 years ago
Yes. Everything is set to 10 on the amp except for the reverb which is around 3.
ThroBakPAF 3 years ago
@ThroBakPAF
So your amps don't go to eleven? :D
Mustang1204 1 year ago
@ThroBakPAF
Nothing set to 11? :D
Mustang1204 1 year ago
how did you get the action so low? i have had mine done professionally and it nowhere near as low! wot the hell are they doing wrong?
bullshitdetective1 3 years ago
The action is not really that low on this guitar. It looks lower on this clip than it really is
ThroBakPAF 3 years ago
well it looks very low to me!!! can you tell me how low it is on the 12th fret please??
bullshitdetective1 3 years ago
very personal
micirest 3 years ago
nice dude. what peice??
rockin4shred 4 years ago
Just improvising. Made it up as I played.
ThroBakPAF 3 years ago
the only thing i can say is that you can groove dude!!
goerge4 4 years ago
What year is the Princeton Reverb?
lynchite 4 years ago
Late 70's Princeton Reverb with Pull Boost volume. I changed a few components to get it to Blackface specs. I never use the pull boost.
ThroBakPAF 4 years ago
Thanks, I've got a '79 PR, never use the pull boost either! Great tone!
lynchite 4 years ago
What kind of magnet does that pickup have?
fenderstandardstrat 4 years ago
So this one is an old 1950´s pickup?
baskethilt 4 years ago
Yes its a real paf humbucker. many people think it's the best humbucker ever made.
So do I
Love and peace
Wooodstock69 4 years ago
Do u know why its so hard to recreate them, rebuild them? Did they lose some blueprints or other information throughout the years?
baskethilt 4 years ago
as for as i know the big companies can't remake them bcause the pickups are not cheap to make so they can't make a lot of profit..
Pickups are difficult things! You have to use the same kind of metals, wires, machnetally make them the same. But i don't know a lot about pickups.
Love and Peace
Wooodstock69 4 years ago
The alnico magnets are different now...
lordkoos 4 years ago
Many companies do make PAF-type pickups. The problem with making a replica of them, though, is that there is no one PAF sound. They varied winds and magnets during the early years. So every PAF remake is a more or less valid variation on the PAF. But for the most authentic remakes of the PAF, Seymour Duncan makes the Antiquity Humbuckers, which are painstaking recreations of the originals. They use the exact materials, and artificial aging processes. The result is basically a great PAF.
ultramegasloth 3 years ago 2
I think sd pickups make the best pafs...
Peace
Wooodstock69 3 years ago
as far as i know, SD bought the kalamazoo pickup winding machine when that plant closed down so the pickups are wound on the same machine as the original 50s PAFs.
It should all be on the SD website
murraypw 3 years ago
PAF's were machine wound. There was more that one machine used to wind them but most were wound on the Leesona 102 winding machine. Seymour Duncan has one of the machines. I have one as well. I am not aware of any other pickup makers that have this machine. Set-up of the winding machine plays a big part in the variation and tonal differences of PAF's. Vintage winding machines like the Leesona 102 have their own unique winding pattern that can't be duplicated by hand.
ThroBakPAF 3 years ago
Outstanding clarity and sweetness!!Maybe PAFs aint only mojo after all....
mesimeriaris 4 years ago
What is the guitar?
skydog46 4 years ago
its a les paul
RickyboyH 4 years ago
It is a 2004, R7 Gibson Historic Reissue 1957 Les Paul. Nice weight at 8.6 lbs. Lots of fun to play.
ThroBakPAF 4 years ago
Great tone..more?
StowBurst 4 years ago
Can we please see one with the left hand, too?
hvst 4 years ago
nice sound
Smrtokvitek 4 years ago
nice
pingo775 4 years ago
Sounds g8 pure-rock `n roll
AlvaroPinto2 4 years ago
sounds great!!!
steveb334 4 years ago