The Dangers of Barbell Bent Over Rows Bodybuilding Exercise

[MultiSpalt]

I do dumbbell rows just lying on a flat bench. It takes all the stress of your lower back. Just make shure you find a bench that's the right height, so when you're lying on it you should be able to pick up the dumbbells from the floor with straight arms. You can really go to failure without the risk of injury!

[Phantom9442]

Is a tbar row with just the bar still safer or just as dangerous as bent over row?

[Soccasteve]

Yes you are more likely to hurt yourself when you strain trying to get that extra rep and that is why many people are against training to failure. You don't have to train to failure to gain muscle guys, I always encourage people to look into the way the old school bodybuilders used to train (reg park, bill pearl, frank grimek, etc.)

[cocksbrutality]

With all due respect, this is complete bs. Bent over rows is easily the nuber one back excersise combined with lat pulldowns for your back. The only time ive gotten a sore back is when I do bent over rows, no exeptions. So, if you dont have a fucked up back, as most people actually dont, do them!

[saidtalbi]

how about dumbbell bent over, is it also dangerous ?

[MtGuyful]

I've done squats, deadlifts and bent over rows for 2 years, on and off the gym, probably 5 months in a year worth of lifting, now I got back to it again, my lower back muscles are thick as fuck, compared to some dudes who don't do squats/deadlifts/rows, who are in similar size to me

I'd say, if it feels fine just do it, but don't go crazy with the weight, but hey, it works on me, never hurt my back doing it and I don't intend to do some crazy weights

most important is to keep back curved in

[bigndum1]

Right on. Even if you heal up fast when you are young, the damage is done and like you guys said who wants to be rolling around in a wheelchair when you're fifty cause your vertabrae are loaded down with arthritis, your disks are blown out or flattened like a pancake and you have nerve damage in your spine and shit and piss yourself. it aint worth the cobra back and the extra fifty lbs on your bench. but people are gonna do what they do.

[Itzxmaaz]

Ian mcfatpussy told me to do these because they help my mushroom tip swell while im laying on the hospital bed ready to go under the knife.

[smilforsatan]

gay

[94FADE]

back is shape like a horse shoe lol

[HSVIRK]

that's a hip row....

[Backstabbinbasterd]

Well for people who don't have herniated discs, bent over barbell rows is the number 1 exercise for developing a thick back and it's just as safe as a bench press. Injury depends on the individual, not necessarily the exercise.

[yorkstroop]

On the full video it pans out and there both in wheelchairs

[yorkstroop]

On the full video it pans out and there both in wheelchairs........tr

[Aslak31]

The thruth of the matter is, that Barbell Bent Over Rows are extremly hard on the lower back. I've been exercising for the last 12 years I did snap some shit up in my lower back with to herniated disks 3 years ago. To day Im still doing the Barbell Bent Over Rows but with allmost no weigt on. 20-25kg compared to 80-100kg 3 years ago. (Im danish so only metric). To day by lowering the weight and doing it right im stronger than I was before. You will snap some shit up eventually.

[TheGamerMan33]

you should throw 4 45's next time you do your bent over rows.

[DjiEnn]

Man, these twins are hilarious. They hating on every exercise that puts a strain on your lower back, even t-bar rows. XD

Look, these twins fucked up their lower back hardcore, so the moment these guys bitch about lower backs, you know you aint at the right address, cuz these niggers are biased as hell. XD

[Backstabbinbasterd]

Is this advice for cripples, or bodybuilders?

[kwstas67]

look u say no rows standing it is true that they ll snap it one day BUT i dont think those rows chest supported will do much for my back :( do u have other safe options (anyway the machine u showed doesnt exist in gym can i still do them while lying on incline bench?

[DUAL727]

How do I know if I have strong or weak lower back? I didn't have any injuries in the past but sometimes when I do bent over rows or just using heavy weights when I'm standing I'm feeling some snapping cracking in my lower back. It's not pain but just short 5 sec. feeling. Don't know how to describe it. Especially it feels when you put down the weight and stand up fully. Than it starts.

[riddleman65]

And just for the record, Arnold didn't snap any shit up.

[riddleman65]

Man, you guys. You constantly have shoulder and back problems. I've squatted, deadlifted, and rowed heavy for years with no problems.

[sloud5432]

i have done this excercise for ages and have seen nothing but gains. you need perfect form though.

[321Trooper]

THIS IS THE MOST TRUTH I HAVE HEARD ON HERE.. everything you guys just said is what just happened to me! been training a few years.. feeling strong but arc'd my back pulling up that heavy bar and it when crack! and then you KNOW ur screwed! been in bed ever since! the pain is more than anything, and you cant do ANYTHING without your lower back! taking a piss without any help will seem like a luxury after its too late!

Listen to this advice... and fuck what anyone else tells you!

[bobbyd7085]

I stick with db rows.

[GentianNB]

in my opinion reverse grip bb rows are great... if you do always with good form and controllable weight ... for god sake

[cona192]

"or yo gnna be snapping some shit up like that"

[Pk2Die]

Dude, fucking hell.. Im 15, and I defintetly snapped some shit up in my lower back, after my last set where i did those "extra reps", I was in the worst pain trying to sit down or stand up properly, and now if I arch my back or flex my lower back I get that sharp pain in my lower back.. and Im only 15, it got better after 1-2 weeks rest, but it's still there.. Wish I just saw this video first for advice.. Is there any tips at all? :s

-Marcus

[WONDERDRUGG]

what u do to snap shit up in ur back ???

[MultiPumpingiron]

what should i do for lower back if my gym doesnt have a t-bar row machine!

[DeliciousPoop]

@MultiPumpingiron t bar row is not for lower back to begin with, it's upper and middle back... lats and rhomboids

lower back is deadlifts and back extensions and good mornings........ google them.... you can use some really good HAMMER machines for rows

[henkeman94]

I snapped up my cruciate ligament in a soccermatch. I can get an operation and thereby "un-snap" it ;)

[jtrim23]

this is terrible advice. guy doesn't squat, deadlift or do bent over rows? if you have a weak back with bad form sure bad idea to do these but if you know how to lift and no back problems they are the best workouts to do haha these guys are weak

[GentianNB]

@jtrim23 man take easy it's just advice.. why they are weak?? tell me why?? they're just trying to give some tips but hey... it's just advice ..... DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANNA DO and dont break our balls!

[Proud2BeAPirate]

@jtrim23 You can do whatever the fuck you wanna do.

[MarsHolst20]

@Flstudz That isn't exactly the issue, my dude. The issue is, when you're doing bent over rows, the only thing keeping your back straight is your form which WILL shit out on you when you're trying to push yourself (and you should be pushing yourself if you wanna get shit done). With the T-bar contraption (and really any weighted rowing machine) they show in the video, the stress of holding form is non-existent because your chest is supported. Even the low row machine is better.

[coldsummersky69]

what the fuck i just came back from gym doing these and didn't think too much of it. Thanks guys lol

[GentianNB]

it's just advice! omg stop commentic shit's

[g8rman05]

anecdotal evidence...just because you have had this negative experience with this exercise doesn't allow to say that the exercise is bad for everyone. faulty logic.

[TraumaER]

@g8rman05 Agree!

[gucks4life]

0:19, thats a t-bar row...

and since some gyms dont have chest supported rows u could use this magical device they invented to protect ur back when ur doing stressful excersises.

its called a belt...

[spam2094]

so as long as we don't do what you guys did then we're fine? as long as you deadlift so have a strong lower back and core, bent over rows are fine!

[deadpan237]

@spam2094 HAHA this. Deadlifts are probably the most important exercise for stability and overall strength reasons, along with ATG squats. also doing yates rows is easier on your lower back and still builds a ton of muscle.

[spam2094]

@deadpan237 yes that's what i was saying!

[MrJordybt]

I've done this for 4 years now and i'm good....You said you pull it to your chest...to hit the lats you have to pull it tp the hips

[hybridman]

arnold and his contemporaries used the barbell row as a staple back exercise. Dorian Yates used them. Why the fuck do you guys get so many views dispensing this nonsense? You got herniated discs so you condemn rows? People get in car accidents everyday, so tell people to stop driving.watching your vids is seriously as waste of time, just two guys with a camera

[messiluv10]

@hybridman

yeaaa thats why arnold and dorian are on steroids you dumb fuck

your actually going to look up to them steroid using bitches?

[hybridman]

@messiluv10

uhhhh, what? come up with a logical argument that is worth arguing. but you must be some dumb kid so I'll let it slide.

[resellworld]

@hybridman Its good to see that Im not alone....most of their videos are like this......I usually just watch for the humor.....

If they have a video were they are trying to be serious, I just close the browser.....the entire browser

[wrangler0289]

@hybridman Just because these guys say something you have to do it? FUCK NO. This is merely advice. KEY FUCKING WORD ADVICE. Appreciate someone taking the time out of their day to make videos like this.

[19ShengKai92]

luimarco is doing this exercise for 20 years and he didn't snap anything!

[galilee416]

"Once you snap some shit up man, you can't un-snap the shit" 1:30 Kevin

[RcKis0]

You don't pull up to your chest, you pull to your hip. - 1:54

[JoeDirt4400]

If you guys are so against it, then why is it in your routine!?!?

You even have it on your beginner routine as well, lol do you even read that website of yours you keep plugging!?!?

[chioska14]

@JoeDirt4400 they have the one armed one on their website where you are on a chair. fool

[JoeDirt4400]

@chioska14

Copy and pasted from their blog under the Our Muscle Building Routines ...

Back & Biceps

Pull-ups or Lat Pull-downs 3-4 sets 8-12 reps

Bent Over Rows 2-4 sets 8-12 reps <------------------

V-Bar Pull-downs 3-4 sets 8-12 reps

EZ-Bar Curls or Barebell Curls 3-4 sets 8-12 reps

and can you show me the excercise youre referring to on their page, its not that I dont believe you, I just want to read it.

[chioska14]

@JoeDirt4400 lol sorry i misread it. you were right :)

[GentianNB]

@JoeDirt4400 the one they use in their routine is with chest supported so no lower back pain ;)

[FieldBoy111]

this is why its important to learn good technique early in ones lifting ventures

[schmatever]

armabarma is an english pussy pretending to be american... pathetic.

good advice though thanks twins... was actually thinking to try bent over row but wont now!!

[teststudent3]

What the hell do you guys know? I always did Bent over rows and I ain't never snapped some shit! I stopped doing them a couple months ago tho because it took too long to recover from them... but my gym buddy carried on and ended up in hospital...because he did WHAT THE FUCK HE WANTED TO DO!

I wish he saw this video sooner...

[MrMintaka1980]

Same it happened to me but deadlifting. Herniated snapped my shit up good and proper. Stay away from this too. You guys are fucking ace. Peace out Bradford UK yeeeahhhyeahhh

[yuvrajdiwan123]

what if your gym doesnt have the t bar row machine?

[deezgeez]

this guys are funny!!!!!!!!!!

[simpletruths10]

HAVE YOU SEEN RONNIE COLEMAN DO THIS FREAKING EXERCISE CRAZY

[jemibanez]

I agree. Its a fucking dangerous excercies....

[JuniorTaitt]

Very rare i disagree with your advice, bent over rows are great once done sensibly just as with any exercise. Any exercise not done properly can "snap ur shit up" In other words i wont go as far as telling ur followers to totally avoid this exercise, but hey thats your advice and this is mine.

[blueleaf1717]

@JuniorTaitt yeah but ur back is without doubt the most IMPORTANT part of ur body not to snap up (not saying its ok to snap anything else up) but unlike most other exercises, bent over rows strain ur back considerably especially if u go heavy which a lot of people do, T-bar rows take ALL pressure of ur lower back so u could go heavier anyway

[blueleaf1717]

uno what i actually dont understand why anyone would do the barbell bent row when it is for all the right reasons much safer and just as effective to do T-bar row..?

[gerrrfreak61]

haha these guys are certainly well educated...

[slimjamie1991]

definitely didn't work for arnold. he only won 7 mr olympias...

I know these guys mean well though. :)

[earthshaker123]

I think the one on the picture is t-bar row

[adityajuneja7]

what about horizontal pull ups keeping your legs onto something and carrying some weight

[AnDr3vV7]

think its bad at 36?im 16 cant even fucking bendover

[SOGGRAB]

@AnDr3vV7 I'm sorry man, that's shit.

[dukeznay]

@AnDr3vV7 damn, so that would have stuffed your sex life up real bad then?

[TheDisciplezOfficial]

Fuck any type of row. I'll stick with the pull up bar

[ObliquusExternus]

@TheDisciplezOfficial Yeah the thing is that you won't be able to develope the same thickness on your back by doing pull ups only. You'll get some damn nice width on your back byt no thickness to match. You need those rowing motions to work the upper part of your back.

[TheDisciplezOfficial]

@ObliquusExternus Yeah, I know what your saying man. I'm no pro, just wanna look a bit buff so I just concentrate on exercises I love... squats, benching, dips, pull ups, upright rows and military presses.... cant get enough of em :)

[ObliquusExternus]

@TheDisciplezOfficial Great way to start off ^^ Sooner or later you'll get tired of doing the same exercises though ;) But 'til then you might aswell stick to what's working for you! Keep it up.

[soseg]

these guys are idiots when it comes to dead lifts and bb rows etc

[Strengthnerd5]

@soseg and clean and jerks

[SuperMbeezy1]

Good stuff guys, great advice! I was wondering if u guys could do a review on a supplement called Lean Muscle X?

[gtashji]

should i where a weight belt. not from lifting heavey but for poor form

[Monsterchief300]

Shouldnt the title say T-Bar rows? not bent over rows.. i didnt see any of them lol.

[rutherd313]

@Monsterchief300 lol yea ino right

[johnjr98]

I can agree with this it happened to me while doing bent rows I had a disk buldge. Hurt like hell for about two weeks but I have a great chiropractor that was able to work the disk back in. I still do bent rows even heavier now I just won't bent over as far now when doing they I actually feel it more in my back this way and had better gains. Do the rows just be smart about it

[UIsTall]

@johnjr98 Sounds like you had bad form to began with, or did a weight you weren't suppose to be lifting. Don't blame the weights, blame you.

[Ui2019]

Ugh, dont treat your body like trash

[Ui2019]

These guys are wise... Don't treats

[maxbm]

LOL @ these two wannabe-bodybuilder losers talking shit about Schwarzenegger.

[socomkilla91]

@maxbm that wasnt talking shit at all... they said that if you do it like that you will probably "snap some shit up" haha which is true. but arnold was a boss so he did it anyway

[UIsTall]

@socomkilla91 You will not snap anything if you keep perfect form and an ARCH in your back.  Which is vital when doing ALL rowing exercises.

[socomkilla91]

@UIsTall No shit. that's for every exercise not just rows. but its difficult to keep "perfect form" on anything, especially on bent over rows. 

[UIsTall]

@socomkilla91 MAybe if you tried harder, you can get it to work instead of complaining all the time.

[socomkilla91]

@UIsTall wtf you dont even know me. and i haven't complained one time dumb bitch. i work my ass off in the gym fuck you.

[UIsTall]

@socomkilla91 45 minutes isn't considered working your ass-off.

[socomkilla91]

@UIsTall again... you dont know me. you dont know how long i spend in the gym, or if i even go to the gym. you dont know how hard i work. fuck off

[UIsTall]

@socomkilla91 THEN STFU! STOP COMMENTING TOWARDS ME! I DON'T CARE FOR YOU! LATER!

[socomkilla91]

@UIsTall you're the dumb ass that started commenting towards me...

[armabarma]

theres some cheeky fuckers pulling these lads down ,they know what they are talking about as ive followed everything they say and im getting good results,so all you little fucking pussies with big mouths and words who think your all hard but really pussy biches shut the fuck up ,and go say it to there faces,i hope the twins bich slap yous like little biches you are rrrraaaaaaarggg

[ukmale164]

unsnap the shit LOL

[bklyngutta]

We've all heard it before y'all: proper form and working at YOUR ability is how u do it

[bklyngutta]

Truth be told, u can snap ur shit up on a machine/contraption just as easily as with free weights. Machines can build an inflated sense of security since most people label them as a 'safer alternative'. BULLSHIT! That will cause some people to still use too much weight, combined w/ the fact that machines primarily isolate muscles through a fixed pathway. U can still have terrible form on a machine and combined with premature overload on an isolated muscle equals snappin ur shit!

[MadeOfAdamantium]

whats the difference between this and the t-bar row???

[SEQUENCEEE]

rofl

[isaiah406]

I'm always roundin my damn back out and i ain't never snap no shit up!!

[Uytube11]

Yo i got a question.. Supported Tbar rows are the shit... what happens if i dont have that machine for supported tbar rows? and can only do regular rows

[bbenally88]

Snappin sum shit up! A weightlifters worse fear!

[HWEisRISING]

YOU GUYZ COULD DO A - "WHATEVER THE FUCK U WANNA DO REMIX" HAHAHA

[ericsanchez2005]

AWESOME ENDING LOL!

You guys give excellent advice. Thank you for taking your time to help us out.

Please post more tips!

[superrubiksman]

Hay are weighted back extensions bad for your lower back because they target your lower back.

[ProstheticGod]

what age is your brother? i kid..

[4eyal]

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[Bitaliktderr]

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[MrJesus188100]

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[endomorph80]

Dam all my favorite exercise are bad for me

1-deadlifts

2-barbell bent over roll

3-clean and jerk

(x_X )

[boby6]

for all the people watching these vids where they say ur back will be ruined that is only true if ur back is already fucked up like there, when u go to do them remember to push ur stomach out as much as u can and that puts the pressure onto ur entire core rather than just focused on ur lower back

[karchun9860]

ARNIE did not snap some sht up - he just got fat :D

[karchun9860]

EVERY1 at last - the left is Kevin the right is Keith!

Like me if i helped XD

[borednessislife]

the pictures are so helpful and someones funny, lol.

[MoMoShiftin]

Contraption haha

[TheAmazingMJM]

How did you Herniate your discs?

[nothingbasic]

possibly the most LOLS i've got from watching your videos guys! Keep it comin!

[Youngdre4mz]

i don't get it, the same outro makes me laugh or even smile every fucking time lol... keep it up 

[DumbAmericans2011]

Damn Niggers are funny LOL

[xxh2022xx]

@DumbAmericans2011 go kill yourself loser

[laral381346]

ohhhh and thats y u guys got huuuuuuge backs right? LOL

[ruin3r]

Instead of snapping some shit up doing bent over rows.. just do some pull-ups and add weight once it gets too easy, never heard of anyone fucking their back up doing pull-ups, and if you do a couple variations you don't really need to do a lot else for lats.

[TheBlastaway]

3 people snapped some shit up!!

[garrettseepersad]

impressive! my gym got one of those this week... and i was wondering where does it target

[royalmarine1011]

basically its hard to unscramble a egg

[millionared]

Good excercise makes yah back huge....go light and not too heavy on the bent over rows cause your back grows faster than and other muscle group....

[dorito818]

Snap shit up. I should of watched some of these videos way before I started lifted when I was 15. I got fucked shoulders, a fucked up lower back, and fucked hip. Shit! I guess I'm fucked. hAhA.

[5UR3X3]

fuck im like keith cant fuck squat for shit cause of my disks from my lower back i try to pick some keys an BAM! feels like your lower back is ripping off from you

[verni3333]

36?!?!??!?!?! i thought u guys were like 26 or 28 omg

[HollanderT12345]

What they are actually trying to say is: never, and they mean never, bent over unless you are a woman or shit will happen.

[CuntDangIt]

@HollanderT12345 LOL

[VvRushvV]

but when you do T bar row, you aren't training core whatsoever, which is a huge advantage of bent over barbell rows.

[universalmanchild]

the only way u r gonna "snap some shit up" is if you dont work on ur core, which you guys dont seem to like to do. keep drinking your jacked 3d guys.

[psc123123]

I used to be one strong muda fka before one day I done this excercise and pushed to much going for more reps and poppopop is all I heard. Couldn't get out of bed ha to roll out everymorning. I still feel the pain to this day. I literally lift "light weight" now. Feel like a bitch. Don't do it unless your a professional strong man on gorilla juice

[MrKhody]

Ey man, if u use perfect from. It's safe.

[jtgtjtgt]

''Once you snap sum shit up man, ya can't un-snap the shit'' 1:30

Excellent advice

[ukmale164]

@jtgtjtgt agreed hahaha

[pbhenry]

@swoop223 Well i lost my Gym membership about a month ago, but that doesn';t mean that i don't workout. I have a basic home gym- squat rack, bench, barbells, and dumbells. So for a back workout My only options are deadlifts, pullups, bentover rows and dumbell rows. I have built a great back with mainly doing different variations of bent over barbell rows and deadlifts. I have never had any back pain whatsoever either.

[Swoop223]

@pbhenry my bad, I just assumed you were one of "those" guys who regarded an advice as a pure fact. It seems like a lot of users on ytube belives in just about everything instead of finding out for themself, what works for them. Sounds to me like you have a great gym at home. Again sorry for the mistake!

[nisarakbari]

i have herniated discs aswell i cant do squats deadlifts bentover rowws it sucks

[salmon443]

Contraption? lol

[BigJsExtremeFitness]

Solid advice!! Once you snap it up, you can't unsnap it.

[DAVERUKY]

ive had disc removed got sciatica horrible lot pain been 17 years so BE CAREFUL.

[tbayguy]

thanks for the tip about not arching up your back, my sciatic nerve was hurting down to my knee the last time I did tbar so I took some time off and will lower the weight by 40 or 50 lbs and pay closer attention to better form

[0305trailblazer]

YEAH, you guys are correct. Those bent over rows and free squats will F@CK up your lower back. I use leg press and the hack-squat machine for quads and hams. I use the T-row machine, lat bar, and pull ups for my back

[Swoop223]

@0305trailblazer would you shut up with your bullshit? Just because you made a mistake in the gym lifting weights, doesn't mean it's bad for everyone else.

[pbhenry]

Instead of saying all of the excercises that are bad, would'nt it be easier to just say the ones that you actually do? lol

[Swoop223]

@pbhenry instead of relying on other folks opinions, maybe you should hit the gym and find out exactly what excerises that are bad for you, or good?

There's no such thing as a "bad" excercise in the gym, only "bad" mistakes

[emann43]

@pbhenry they do

[911damian]

stop shouting fuck just simply say the word, has the same effect just you dont look like a tool <3

[911damian]

'snap some shit up' what a fraze xD

[allnightgibbons112]

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[bazketballplaya3]

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[allnightgibbons112]

@bazketballplaya3 ha ha well done

[Dionator]

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