Say what you will about Nixon's obvious strangeness ---- HOWEVER, it was Kennedy's terrible incompetence that brought us to the brink of nuclear war. Kruschev took the measure of the man accurately and concluded he was callow. Kruschev knew Nixon could not be bullied --- there would have been no Bay of Pigs and no missiles in Cuba.
Well....it's obvious that they knew what would come to pass if Dick Nixon ever sat in the Oval Office. Kennedy loved to talk s***t about Nixon, he didn't need much prodding.
@ReadmanJ actually, your argument strengthens Brown's claim dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032912/One-25-bosses-psychopath-hides-charm-business-speak.html ... guess you should know what a psychotic is first, eh?
@ReadmanJ all subsequent Republican Presidencies were built on the back of Kennedy's and his brother's assassinations. The Republicans can count their lucky stars on their deaths, because they'd be out of business without them.
@Nominay You are so right. Even Republicans said that JFK would have been elected in 1964 and Senator Robert F. Kennedy would have been elected in 1968 easily. Nixon won that election by 500,000 of the popular vote. I've just read THE LAST CAMPAIGN, about RFK's last 82 days. JFK's aides said RFK would have been the 3rd or 4th best President. The phone call is about Nixon losing the California Govenor's election of 1962. Nixon told the press that they won't have him to kick around anymore.
@1916jutland I agree that Kennedy would have been re-elected in 1964, but I doubt if Bobby would have even ran in '68. Presidents usually have rougher times during their second terms and a Republican - perhaps Rockefeller - would have defeated LBJ in 1968. My guess is that Bobby would have ran for Senate AFTER JFK's 2nd term and positioned himself for a 1976 Presidential run. RFK would only have been 51 then.
You know who threw this country down the economic toilet and paved the way for Reagan and the Reagan revisionism?: Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon and how they stamped their feet about how they COULDN'T be the first presidents to lose a war, so they pissed away the 2011 equivalent of a trillion dollars in Viet Nam and, in Nixon's, case erected wage and price controls, got rid of Bretton-Woods and with all the war costs coming home and the oil embargo created the stagflation that gave us Reagan.
YouTube is frustrating because there's not enough space to make a point. Nixon was a monster. He probably had a hand in the JFK assassination which is silencing the voice of the American people. Watergate (oops!) wasn't about campaign dirty tricks, it was about stopping the truth about the assassination from coming out. I'll bet my life that either you weren't born or weren't aware enough during Watergate to know what it was all about. Read 1 history book about it and you'll know nothing.
but i dont believe that been 2 shooters, nobody is on the fence on photo but whose 3 man on stairs when shooting started they must seen someone in fense beacuse they running in that direction. oswald and ruby is been together beacuse if oswald did not shoot on jfk ruby dont need kill him, but they working together , but they did not working alone , suspects are 1 hoover 2 russians or someone in cia. i dont believe that lbj involved in that.
He primarily used Jacobson drugs for pain & energy. References to him being "wasted" on "several occasion" and "out of control" "often," I think are inaccurate. I heard of one such occasion when he felt out of control. JFK said Jacobson's drug affected sexual performance, therefore I don't think he took it as much as bios imply. Richard Dallek took taped conversations recorded during crises when his records showed that his meds were increased & found him to be lucid & brilliant.
Nixon was an opportunist not a psycho but I guess the only way to know the difference is the level of success you come out with. In the end these people all desire power and because Kennedy was responsible with power and would not flex any the powers behind him were very....mad.. (military industrial complex. Mafia, CIA, other political people) they all had it out for the Kennedy family.
This is just embarrasing really. I'm glad Gov. Brown was around to see the psychotic guy who's political career couldn't recover assume the presidency 7 years later.
@TheFrogger15 To tell you the truth, you're probably right. All the Kennedy tragedies are very unfortunate. I don't think Nixon would have beat RFK in the general election. If Nixon had lost to RFK, he probably would have lost his mind. And if JFK lives out his term, we don't have that bully LBJ in the White House. And maybe less US involvement in Vietnam.
@fasfsdfasd That was a comment I made in response to Pinksnotgoth, who commented about 5 pages back. I cite Dallek's research at one point. I just never sent to her directly.
Hahahaha, all the more reason to love Mr. Kennedy! Nixon WAS a total nutcase. He did some good things, but for the most part he pretty much fucked us over.
Now wait a second. theres no way in hell Oswald did it alone if he in fact did it. Its just naive to think that. That wasnt a "Magic" bullet. There were at least 2 gunmen involved. That much i do know
@45arther Look Pal. YOU'RE the one that fell for a Hoax, not me. Every person with any shred of common sense knows there were at least 2 shooters. You sound as though you would have thought the Earth was flat 600 years ago just because people said it was. Gimme a break. Kennedy was shot both from behind and from the front. Just watch the damn tape. The second shot CLEARLY hits him in the front and knocks him back. There wwas more than 1 shooter
@williwo RFK publicly supported the Warren commission report. Privately however, he never stopped investigating until the day he died. He privately told an aide, "If the american people knew the truth about Dallas the streets would run with blood".
heres what i don't like ...there are no tapes of bill clinton talking to one of his many mistresses .. there are no tapes of kennedy making arrangements with call girls and doing drugs .. there are no tapes of trumans corruption .. why is it that the only kinda evidence that hits main stream media of any kind of tomfoolery unless it's placed on a republican? .. i want my kennedy tapes damn it!
@moproducer Highly doubt it.......I'm sure Nixon didn't miss Kennedy, but theres nothing that really indicates he was involved. Even Robert Kennedy never put any kind of blame on Nixon. He was always more suspicious that LBJ could have been involved. Funny however that Pat Brown says Nixon can probly never recover.....when in fact he becomes President 7 years later! lol. Irony can be a bitch
@williwo I'll always believe that Nixon was in on it, along with the Bushes (I'm satisfied that Big George was a player). We'll never know for sure until we look down & see who's frying in Hell.
@moproducer Thats fine......Just like I'll always believe Kennedy was in on Marilyn Monroe's Death. Theres more evidence that points to that than Nixon being involved with Kennedy getting capped off
@williwo robert kennedy knew that oswald alone did it. he said it time and time again. ted kennedy said that RFK thought Oswald alone did it. So tired of internet conspiracy talk that needs to make things up.
@45arther Now wait a second. theres no way in hell Oswald did it alone if he in fact did it. Its just naive to think that. That wasnt a "Magic" bullet. There were at least 2 gunmen involved. That much i do know
@TheFrogger15 How do you figure that? Even if Kennedy had lived and was re-elected in 1964 (which we'd assume he would have been), I don't see why Nixon wouldn't have still been a legitimate candidate on the Republican side in 1968. I'm not saying he would have won the election, but why are you saying Nixon would not have been able to run at all if the JFK assassination had not taken place?
@Derby14 I'm just saying that after he was defeated in the Calif. race in 1962, he retired from politics and became a New York lawer. Now with the JFK & RFK assassination's & LBJ's handling of the Vietnam war all open the door for him to run. If one of these incidents did not happen, I don't thik Nixon would have even considered to run in 1968. That's just one man's opinion.
Maybe the person below would have preferred Richard Nixon as President in 1961. Let's see. He would have invaded Cuba at the Bay of Pigs. There would have probably been a nuclear confrontation over Cuba or Berlin. Since Nixon advised Eisenhower to use Nuclear Weapons against Vietnam in the 50's & advised Kennedy to use the Bomb during the Cuban Missile Crisis, he would have probably used the Bomb. Most Americans would have been killed & the person below would have never been born.
JFK functioned very well as President despite his health problems. He was NEVER wasted. I can say that with confidence because unlike the person below I was around during his Presidency.
@0907oliv ive actually argued with her before she says shes like 18 or something but in reality i think shes a paid troll or someone who goes on JFK things to talk about how bad he was, that his dad did this and that, how they killed m monroe, how he did acid, how vietnams his fault and on and on. his SS code name was Lancer. and she wont accept that gw bush went AWOL in 1972-1973 when drug testing became mandatory... or that laura bush killed some1 in a car accident.
@pat442389 Yes, she definitely gets around on You Tube. Some people just delight in trying to destroy JFK's reputation. A lot of stuff written about the Kennedys is either not true or unsubstantiated. Some is true - but I certainly don't buy it all. The Monroe accusation is b.s. JFK was the greatest president of my life time. I am sorry that some people do not value this man. Fortunately plenty do. Ultimately, I firmly believe that historians will rate him highly.
@pat442389 Also, I guess she never read historian Dallek's book on JFK. Dallek looked at JFK's medical records during major crises, saw his drug intake go up, then listened to the tapes of meetings during that time and found him to be brilliant and lucid. In other words, the drug use had no effect on his performance as President. This is also evident in JFK's news conferences when he was so qucik and incisive with his answers.
@0907oliv well he did do drugs but it was for his severe back pain and addisons disease. so it might seem like he was taking a lot of drugs to ppl who have never done drugs. but the human body builds up a tolerance to drugs so to get the same effect over time you must take more. and your right obviously if he was slurring his words or nodding out the press, ss agents, the right or other ppl would have talked by now. its really weird how so many creeps come to JFK vids and spew garbage tho
@pat442389 For the same reason people spew stuff on Nixon. The fact is, a lot of people know and understand that Kennedy was involved in shady corrupt dealings. He was no saint or martyr like he is often portrayed. Nixon, on the other hand, got caught. So its easier for the mainstream to blast him. I'm not saying that Kennedy was necessarily Evil...didnt know him personally. And I didnt know Nixon. But Kennedy, like his Father, had a very corrupt and wicked side
I can very confidently say, after reading 3 biographies, that you are wrong - as much as I am full of admiration for JFK - you are wrong. He did get wasted on several occasions. He also, on occasion, exploited a drug administered to him by Dr. Max Jacobson (Doctor Feel Good). This drug's principal use to ease pains caused by his troublesome back. However he did on occasions use it for recreational purposes. Often remarking me felt "out of control" on it.
@mehhh31 My never wasted comment was to Pinksnotgoth who implied that he was a bad President and made comparisons to Ted Kennedy as if to imply JFK was drunk. From her comments I got the impression she had been reading Dark Side of Camelot. What bios have you read?
@0907oliv yeah your right its sad theres actually weirdos who comment badly on all JFK videos. its a way of destroying the lefts hero while propping up the reagan myth. what gets me is when they say ted killed mary jo, and act like it wasnt an accident and that he had 2 older brothers brutally, publicly murdered. JFK would have changed this country and world for the better and those who read dark side of camelot dont realize seymour was lied 2 and tricked on many stories by the CIA
@pat442389 Not only that - a couple of people interviewed by Hersh said that they kept responding No to a question and he wrote that they said Yes. The whole book is questionable.
@pat442389 Re Ted Kennedy, the thing he did wrong at Chappaquiddick is not seeking help from nearby residence & not reporting it right away. He maintains in his autobiography that there was not anything between them and I have to accept that he wouldn't have lied on his death bed. He told a reporter long ago that he knew because of his reputation no one would believe it but this was the one time that there was nothing going on.
@0907oliv u prob. know this but chappaquiddick was a 1yr reunion of bobbys 68's pres. campaign. ted said in his last book he became emotional and wanted to leave and so 2 did mary jo. i actually think he drank a little but tried his hardest to save her life. after i think he might have realized oh shit what do i do now? and he went home and told his parents. once the girls dead in my mind 20mins or 2 hours dont matter 2 much. but im making excuses 4 him because of his famiy;s tragic past.
@pat442389 I think you are giving a fair explanation. He was probably drinking too much but I am not convinced that the drinking was the cause of the accident. There were other factors. I think also he was in such a state of shock that he went into denial - I mean kind of did an escapist thing. Still - he really needed to own up right then and there. He lived with it the rest of his life. It was sad for Mary Joe & him both.
@0907oliv yeah the "road" was a tiny dirt bridge thing with no side or guard rails and it was late night with no street lights or any other lights around. he should have owned up to it, but he wasnt mature like hes older brothers, he was probably in a state of shock and probably felt that he had let everyone down. in the end it did keep him from being president or a serious candidate and damaged the kennedy name. but the pressure that was put on him from the kennedy fam and friends of RFK & JFK
"Declassified papers report that John Kennedy was taking eight different medications a day. He was so wasted, his Secret Service code name was Ted Kennedy."
who are you? thats twice u mention this. Kennedy is well known and respected for his duty and service and ultimate sacrifice. he did have health problems stemming from ww2. so what.
nixon is under-rated. his otherwise impressive presidency is overshadowed by the watergate scandal. he was more than a match for any of his opponents and almost won the presidency of eisenhower singlehandedly
true, hwever nixon again turned that around with the now famous "checkers" speech. another example of his ability to survive against the odds. watergate aside, nixon wasn't a bad president.
nixon was evil pure and simple. a macchiavellian secret oath bohemian new world order prponent. to hell with him. kent state. john lennon's issues. nixon had issues with protestors of the vietnam conflict. he is the albert speer of modern history. someone to whom vietnam lasted longer. not to mention the bombings he did over in cambodia.
@thrawnsbro Nixon wasn't that underrated. McCord the Watergate burglar wrote he though Nixon would turn the USA into another Nazi Germany. And don't forget how he sabotaged the Paris Peace talks, so LBJ could not end the Vietnam war. Only 28 thousand more dead GI's to come, And what about how he incinerated Cambodia and allowed it to be turned it into Maoist hell hole. Dick was a real prince.
@SuntUzi23 It's hard to teach the ignorant anything. None so blind as those who will not see because they don't want to. So tell me is ignorance really bliss?
lol thanks TrueNovice! You really are that all-knowing wise stranger who really showed me the way. Dude your post I originally commented on was pathetic, not just due to content, but approach and tone. You may say all you like, it doesnt change the fact that you are a fool.
@SuntUzi23 What was your problem with the original post anyway.? All I can say is how noble of you to allow me to continue to post here on youtube. You are a prince of a man, and I don't mean that in a gay way, you know like you are a homosexual or something. So don't misunderstand me.
@SuntUzi23 I guess with all the drugs you don' remember why you were offended - to refresh your addled brain I said Tricky Dicky's campaign sabotaged the Paris peace talks that would have ended the war in 1968. Dick sent work to the S. Vietnamese delegation, not to accept the terms since they would get a better deal if Dick was elected. So there was no deal, the war continued another 7 years and cost the lives of another 28,000 Americans. And you find this amusing.
I remember everything, especially why I started. I dont speak without thinking, but clearly you are very talented at assuming and being arrogant. I say this, because your comments have demonstrated them perfectly.
Way to flip the issue. I dont find the death of 28,000 Americans amusing, again an assumption on your part. What I find amsuing is your accounts of history, as well as government.
I suggest you open up a book, one without a bias.
Lastly, when I say bias, I am not speaking about Red v. Blue, that is for politically imature, and unaware people. I dont have time to debate with people who really believe the Liberal and Republican fabrications. In addition, you talk about these people as if you knew them.
You're quite the character!
Again I stand behind my original sentiments, you are a true Novice.
@SuntUzi23 My comments were interesting enough for you to respond to them. You have not refuted any assertion I have made, because you cannot., if you have issues with the facts, let's hear them. After all this is a public forum and there must be someone else reading this besides you.
Here are some legitimate points you now raise. I am a fair person. I would be glad to refute it, however if you would be so kind as to let me organize it all and present it to you in a message inbox.
Your comments were definitely interesting enough to respond. We shall debate this soon enough.
@hopkins4545 He had an IQ of 140 that comes with some quirks, but he never fucked on his wife or put his family's political aspirations above the countries needs.
@matrix49A Of course, Nixon did not put his families aspirations above the country. But, that asshole did put the mafia's aspirations above the country. He did not fuck around on his wife. But, he fucked the American people. I saw the picture of him with Preston Bush. I saw the pic of him with the mafia. He was already linked to Jack Ruby.
@mrfester42 dude c'mon, compared to what these corrupt politicians are doing in our government today are doing, SPYING on the American people should be an impeachable offense! nixon never took anyones civil liberties aways
@conraddoavil Did you read one or two books on Nixon or watch a cable documentary on him and think you've got him pegged? I'll asume you want to know the truth about these things and just say this. This is not the forum to learn about these things. Something like this is a course of study in itself and 1 or 2 books or hundreds of newsclips will teach you very little. Nixon definitely took civil liberties away, among other very wrong doings but I can't convince you here. Good luck learning!
Yeah and then a " nut " named Ronald Reagan beat the pants off Pat Brown and was able to fix all the problems Pat Brown that greattttttttt Liberal had done in california.
fucking a new slut every day is reckless, and unbalanced. JFK was also taking a drug cocktail for his back that included speed...all while the world was on the brink of nuclear war. Sorry, JFK was the real nut.
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In that day, speed wasn't an illegal drug, you redneck.If he was taking it, it was subscribed by his docter.
Richard Nixon actually made Kennedy and Lindon's work undone and pushed everyone deeper into nuclear war, or didn't your history teacher tell you that?
Taking a drug like speed is reckless judgment. Screwing a different woman every day is reckless judgment.
As for Nixon, he did what Lincoln did: he took a nation that was at civil war, and ended it. The terrible riots, the anti-war protests, the Weathermen terrorists--he solved alll that. And as for nuclear war, Nixon negotiated the SALT I Treaty, that saw the US and the USSR agree to limit the arms race. That, along with his policy of detente, made nuclear war FAR LESS Likely. Read a book.
No way...the North Vietnamese were determined to get South Vietnam,and indeed, they did so in 1975. To think that if Nixon stayed out of the 1968 peace talks somehow the war would have ended, is madness. The North Vietnamese didn't give up until they acheived their objectives. Nixon's intervention was politics, but so was Johnson when he did a bombing halt. Both sides played politics with Vietnam, but nothing they did changed the eventual outcome.
most of the stuff you just said (besides the stuff about Nixon) could be found in metal gear portable ops plus cause they talk about that stuff A WHOOOOOLLEEEE LOT.
lol, Nixon, more than any president after 1945, was the most important world leader of the Nuclear age. Your boy Johnsin bankrupted the economy with his domestic spending while escalating the war in Vietnam to an untenable breaking point.
Nixon had to clean up the mess, if thats what you mean by undone.
I think you confound "normal course of life" and "society".
Read you history and you will learn that adultery has been common amongst leaders especially kings. It didn't make them less of leaders. Quite the opposite. When you get you stuck up guys the result is Hitler, Nixon and Bush. I'll take the Chief that has three girlfriends.
If the guy has to be an effective Leader of men, I don't mind him having a few wives also.
bullshit, other places paid higher gas prices, what your saying is you would rather have the whole economy crumbling and have cheap gas, than a good economy and higher gas ? wow you are fucking stupid
yea we're likely seeing the same train wreck from slightly different angles. I'm pretty mad about the 1912 federal reserve thing, and wish we could do something to limit or stop it.
I'm not sure about how much m1 matters, but I DO know that NO FEDERAL Financial seem to have been enforced since about 1998.
BOTH Clinton and Bush admins seemed to have maintained the same policies, allowing wholesale rape of our financial system from wall street barons on down to street level con men.
The fed then set up this collapse to enrich their billionaire insiders,& cause a bailout that the fed uses to transfer wealth from the US taxpayer to itself
Well, I agree with abolishing the fed, and my point is actually that it's the fed(run by private banks)Wall street influence(through the banks)and government corruption(aka,enron et al)that has created this collapse.
most of these banks that received the money, didn't need it and have used the money to buy out their non-connected competition that needed the bailout,but didn't get any.
This mess started around 1998 when the government stopped all oversight and enforcement of all financial laws.
Thank you for your response. I agree with your conclusions about the two factions of our single party system concerning the border. However, I have to disagree with your misunderstanding of our banking system.
Raising interest rates,taxes,and gasoline all have the same effect,which is to limit the money supply.
Adjustable mortgage rates are fine as longer as interest rates are stable,but when you raise them 12 TIMES IN less than a year, then nobody can afford them.
Actually Bernanke RAISED interest rates 12 times during 2007, which caused the sub-prime to prime banking meltdown in aug of 2007. I agree with the border thing BTW, and I wonder why neither political party will do anything about it...?
When Bush cut the taxes it was BEFORE 09/11/01 You fail to take into consideration that we took an enourmous hit on our economy because of 09/11 and if it were not for thed tax cuts and low interest rates we would have had a lot more trouble. Until the latest economic catastrophe the deficit was coming down, even with two wars going on. Bush made mistakes, but the focus of his administration since 09/11 has been keeping our country safe from terrorists.
I am glad Bush has been president instead of you. You make decisions about him because of his poll numbers. I make decisions about him by how he has lead. History will show he brought the fight to our enemy and kept them from coming back to our shores.
You are a ideological coward/hypocrite of a libertarian in your pathetic defense of Reagan (who was obviously not a libertarian).
Doesn't matter though I haven't really decided yet who are more annoying, libertarians or conservatives. As dead as conservatives are at the moment though they aren't nearly as irrelevant as libertarians so I guess there's always that.
President outlines the funding recommendations and has power to veto the appropriations. Either way the budget was Reagan's budget the way he wanted it to be. As were the tax cuts. That you even tried to blame Laffer is hilarious xD. You idiots can take no responsibility for your own shit whatsoever. The deficits were conscious choices. Cheney learned it from Reagan "deficits don't matter".
You people are either a bunch of liars or really dumb. Reagans spending in the eighties on defense forced the Soviets into bankruptcy. This allowed the party in the 90's where Clinton could balance the budget because we thought we would never have another enemy to fight a cold or hot war. Then came 09/11. Say what you want about George W. Bush, he has kept us safe for over 7 years from terrorism. I hope we can say the same for Obama.
You are a complete dishonest hypocrite for making a distinction with Reagan. The guy who pioneered putting the country on a mortgage. He was the first president to increase the debt as a % of the GDP as he did in peace time outside of a recession. Cutting taxes and footing the bill to future generations to pay for them is despicable and so is Reagan.
Anyway Christians may be useful idiots to republicans but they are very much part of the same insane groups with the same insane ideas that have wrecked your country and much of the world.
Listen dude you are a libertarian conspiracist loon. Nobody really cares anymore about your ideas. You Americans are already teaching us a lesson in socialism, comrade xD. Can't wait till the ENTIRE West is finally rid of braindead conservatives like yourself. Rather than just 2/3 of the west.
Imf just reported that France became wealthier than the USA, allong with 15 other nations (13 of them European and Canada and Australia as well). The lowest ranking EVER for the USA. Which was 4th when Clinton left office (which is the usual ranking).
Neoliberalism has FAILED and nobody gives a shit about Reagan or Thatcher anymore. Where's your god now huh?
You are so pathetic xD. Maybe we'll see you cons again after another 50 year brake like last time. As for now try not to stink the place up rotting in the the wilderness.
And a conservative would have accepted the crucifixion if they had any balls whatsoever. None of the problems of this country can be solved by any of the methods proposed by any party because the fallout would eliminate the entire group from politics for 20 years. By then the opposition would destroy any progress made, and everything would go back to square one. Universal health care can work in a democratic nation (Canada Japan all of our allies). so can legalization (Holland Denmark)
Odd that you place so much faith in the Sudanese Govt.
Anyway, what choice did he have with conservatives holding the pursestrings and the 80's debt like a lodestone around his neck.
The CIA had been misappropriating billions of dollars then and now, so stop throwing stale feces around.
This country is going to be dealing with the consequences of Reagan's senility for the next hundred years. Mexico became the USA's chief pusher because of his harebrained WAR ON DRUGS and so much more
So now suddenly the election of 1984 is more relevant than 2006 and 2008? God I hope all conservatives are as clueless as you. This could become a triple wave election. Certainly looks like it with the way cons are rallying around Palin. A certified moron with a 40% approval rating. This 'deeply conservative country' wants universal healthcare, action on cilmate change as well as more regulation if opinion polls are to be believed. In a conservative's book that makes you a commie.
I don't trust conservatives yes. And they have proven time and time again that they don't deserve any trust or can bare any responsibility. These idiots blame Pelosi for the way they vote in congress. Oh no she said mean things about Bush! We HAD to vote against the country (in their own rhetoric) because of HER!
Are moving to London? Did move to London you mean. It's funny you blame Bush for this because it has been happening for the last 20 years. It is cold comfort for London now though. A city built on a bubble.
Why on earth do oyu keep on referencing Hong Kong xD It's a trade city! A haven! It DEPENDS on the rest of the 'socialist' 'keynesian or communist east and west. To borrow a phraze from you randroids, Hong Kong is a parasite. It's far poorer than the rest of the West however.
Geert Wilders the prophet xD. Sigh to bad we have so man morons like you in the west. I'm afraid we are waisting a lot of energy thanks to people like you.
What the fuck does Iceland have to do with this xD. Jesus Christ you are one fucktarded hypocrite! Iceland is fucked by the (America's) financial crisis = failure of European style socialism. America is fucked by it's own financial crisis = coincidence? lol you are pathetic! 300k people live in Iceland, irrelevant. Iceland was fucked because like London and New York embraced the conservative creed of anarchistic capitalism.
"If only we taxed everyone who makes a buck and regulate everything, and just let everyone in the world do whatever they wanted America would be a perfect country"
Nice red herring. Carter was a moderate.
Unemployment and inflation started to surge under Ford.
Denmark unemployment stood at 3.5% a few months ago (maybe 4% now).
it hasn't been 15% in the last 28 years at least. You are full of shit. Typical conservative.
.. You don't know jack... Denmark is at less than 4%. Far less than the USA. The UK is pretty low for a Western European country but the Nordic countries and the lowlands are far lower.
You said it was 15% you were off by almost 10% and are backtracking. Pathetic.
"Volcker did what he wanted, Reagan wanted a better rate but the Fed wanted to get inflation down as quickly as possible, which led to the deficit rising faster than it would have."
That doesn't make any sense, rising deficit's spur inflation. Just as interest rate increases spur deflation. Second time you mixed up a basic economic fact. Please educate yourself a bit.
It is hilarious how you hypocritically excuse Reagan of throwing your stupid little ideology out the window.
The EU (27 members 500 million people) last time I checked had an unemployment rate of 6.7%. Unlike the USA the EU also counts those who stopped looking for work, add to that the welfare state and it is impressive considering the US pretty much is officially at 6.5% now as well.
You ought to know your numbers before you start spouting your ideological crap.
Heck I don't remember the actual rates I only remember the chart. You mentioned 12% I thought you mentioned Carter. I remembered that Carter unemployment (and inflation) though higher was not substantially higher than Ford and the trend clearly started with Ford. Raising interest rates doesn't push out deflation it pushed toward deflation. You raise interest rates if you want to decrease the expansion of the money suply/combat inflation. Bush was a deficit madman and so was Reagan.
Unemployment was a hell of a lot higher than 12% under Hoover, and had already reached it with Ford. i wouldn't be suprised if we hit it again following the horrors of Bush's stupid Reaganism.
As for inflation, at the end of the day all that matters is economic growth adjusted for inflation (real growth) which has been stronger under democrats for all the 20th century.
JFK was such an awesome dude. Heck his infidelity made him even more legendary if you ask me ;). I think Clinton was trying to emulate him. He failed of course but even that still made Clinton cool.
JFK has suffered "posthumous assassination," albeit, he did occasionally stray, a character flaw heightened by dependence on massive doses of cortisone owing to acute Addison's Disease. (Arthritic patients treated with cortisone injections at the Mayo Clinic in 1947 were found to similarly experience heightened libidos as a result of dosages.) Still, he loved Jacqueline & adored his children. This was a good & decent man who, however imperfect, was still an ethical, moral man to be admired.
Jack had Addison's, so too, sister, Eunice. His political philosophy (ala that of TR, FDR, Camus, & Frankl) evolved from his acute consciousness of vulnerability, mortality, & empathy with those who suffer. He was born during an era of not only anti-immigrant prejudice, but W.A.S.P. programs promoting eugenics upon ethnic & racial minorities considered inherently inferior. He championed egalitarian democracy as a writer (A Nation of Immigrants) & statesman. JFK was truly an enlightened leader.
In his youth, seeking the approval of his mother, Hannah, Dick Nixon aspired to decency. What crippled him was his angry abusive father, Frank. All his life Poor Richard sought approval from surrogate father figures (Meyer Lansky, Ike, the Dulles brothers, J. Edgar Hoover) only to be regarded an expedient toady. What set Nixon on his fallen path was his business debacle of 1938 when he lost everything in his feckless concentrated orange juice venture. His only out became mob money.
Nixon was a Vice-President and his influence should not be underestimated. After all, he was defeated and humiliated by Kennedy and maintained contacts in government,probably within the CIA itself.
Say what you will about Nixon's obvious strangeness ---- HOWEVER, it was Kennedy's terrible incompetence that brought us to the brink of nuclear war. Kruschev took the measure of the man accurately and concluded he was callow. Kruschev knew Nixon could not be bullied --- there would have been no Bay of Pigs and no missiles in Cuba.
teddy12543 1 week ago
Well....it's obvious that they knew what would come to pass if Dick Nixon ever sat in the Oval Office. Kennedy loved to talk s***t about Nixon, he didn't need much prodding.
BartA22 4 months ago
@VengeanceMineIs Funny, I don't remember that quote...
bookguitarguy 5 months ago
Pat Brown couldn't have been more wrong not only did Nixon comeback but he won two terms. not bad for a "Psychotic"
ReadmanJ 5 months ago
@ReadmanJ actually, your argument strengthens Brown's claim dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2032912/One-25-bosses-psychopath-hides-charm-business-speak.html ... guess you should know what a psychotic is first, eh?
Nominay 5 months ago
@ReadmanJ all subsequent Republican Presidencies were built on the back of Kennedy's and his brother's assassinations. The Republicans can count their lucky stars on their deaths, because they'd be out of business without them.
Nominay 5 months ago
@Nominay You are so right. Even Republicans said that JFK would have been elected in 1964 and Senator Robert F. Kennedy would have been elected in 1968 easily. Nixon won that election by 500,000 of the popular vote. I've just read THE LAST CAMPAIGN, about RFK's last 82 days. JFK's aides said RFK would have been the 3rd or 4th best President. The phone call is about Nixon losing the California Govenor's election of 1962. Nixon told the press that they won't have him to kick around anymore.
1916jutland 5 months ago
@1916jutland I agree that Kennedy would have been re-elected in 1964, but I doubt if Bobby would have even ran in '68. Presidents usually have rougher times during their second terms and a Republican - perhaps Rockefeller - would have defeated LBJ in 1968. My guess is that Bobby would have ran for Senate AFTER JFK's 2nd term and positioned himself for a 1976 Presidential run. RFK would only have been 51 then.
observer9670 5 months ago
@ReadmanJ Maybe but he still was without question....PSYCHOTIC.
BartA22 4 months ago
You know who threw this country down the economic toilet and paved the way for Reagan and the Reagan revisionism?: Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon and how they stamped their feet about how they COULDN'T be the first presidents to lose a war, so they pissed away the 2011 equivalent of a trillion dollars in Viet Nam and, in Nixon's, case erected wage and price controls, got rid of Bretton-Woods and with all the war costs coming home and the oil embargo created the stagflation that gave us Reagan.
joshweiss01 5 months ago
YouTube is frustrating because there's not enough space to make a point. Nixon was a monster. He probably had a hand in the JFK assassination which is silencing the voice of the American people. Watergate (oops!) wasn't about campaign dirty tricks, it was about stopping the truth about the assassination from coming out. I'll bet my life that either you weren't born or weren't aware enough during Watergate to know what it was all about. Read 1 history book about it and you'll know nothing.
mrfester42 7 months ago
@mrfester42 talk about having you head up your ass.
JakeandElwoodBlues 6 months ago
nixon should have gone and died in a hole. we love you kennedy <3
AmyandRickyForever 8 months ago
but i dont believe that been 2 shooters, nobody is on the fence on photo but whose 3 man on stairs when shooting started they must seen someone in fense beacuse they running in that direction. oswald and ruby is been together beacuse if oswald did not shoot on jfk ruby dont need kill him, but they working together , but they did not working alone , suspects are 1 hoover 2 russians or someone in cia. i dont believe that lbj involved in that.
master82565 8 months ago
He primarily used Jacobson drugs for pain & energy. References to him being "wasted" on "several occasion" and "out of control" "often," I think are inaccurate. I heard of one such occasion when he felt out of control. JFK said Jacobson's drug affected sexual performance, therefore I don't think he took it as much as bios imply. Richard Dallek took taped conversations recorded during crises when his records showed that his meds were increased & found him to be lucid & brilliant.
0907oliv 9 months ago
Nixon was an opportunist not a psycho but I guess the only way to know the difference is the level of success you come out with. In the end these people all desire power and because Kennedy was responsible with power and would not flex any the powers behind him were very....mad.. (military industrial complex. Mafia, CIA, other political people) they all had it out for the Kennedy family.
jspecaspec23 10 months ago
This is just embarrasing really. I'm glad Gov. Brown was around to see the psychotic guy who's political career couldn't recover assume the presidency 7 years later.
WWETNAwrestlingfan15 10 months ago
@WWETNAwrestlingfan15 Nixon had to step over the bodies of John & Robert Kennedy to get there.
TheFrogger15 10 months ago
@TheFrogger15 To tell you the truth, you're probably right. All the Kennedy tragedies are very unfortunate. I don't think Nixon would have beat RFK in the general election. If Nixon had lost to RFK, he probably would have lost his mind. And if JFK lives out his term, we don't have that bully LBJ in the White House. And maybe less US involvement in Vietnam.
WWETNAwrestlingfan15 10 months ago
Brown said Nixon was evil? Sheeet! LBJ was the REAL evil one.
glimmer2158 11 months ago
@fasfsdfasd That was a comment I made in response to Pinksnotgoth, who commented about 5 pages back. I cite Dallek's research at one point. I just never sent to her directly.
0907oliv 11 months ago
Hahahaha, all the more reason to love Mr. Kennedy! Nixon WAS a total nutcase. He did some good things, but for the most part he pretty much fucked us over.
grungedog3 1 year ago
Now wait a second. theres no way in hell Oswald did it alone if he in fact did it. Its just naive to think that. That wasnt a "Magic" bullet. There were at least 2 gunmen involved. That much i do know
williwo 1 year ago
@williwo oswald did it alone. 47 year old case that was open and shut..you don't know anything. you ahe fallen for a hoax.
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther Look Pal. YOU'RE the one that fell for a Hoax, not me. Every person with any shred of common sense knows there were at least 2 shooters. You sound as though you would have thought the Earth was flat 600 years ago just because people said it was. Gimme a break. Kennedy was shot both from behind and from the front. Just watch the damn tape. The second shot CLEARLY hits him in the front and knocks him back. There wwas more than 1 shooter
williwo 1 year ago
@williwo RFK publicly supported the Warren commission report. Privately however, he never stopped investigating until the day he died. He privately told an aide, "If the american people knew the truth about Dallas the streets would run with blood".
tenthbullet01 1 year ago
Man, I just farted something that smells like egg. Thing is, I didn't eat any eggs. I'll keep everyone informed on the mystery.
wellsonors 1 year ago
@wellsonors Magic fart.
nonplayerzealot4 1 year ago
heres what i don't like ...there are no tapes of bill clinton talking to one of his many mistresses .. there are no tapes of kennedy making arrangements with call girls and doing drugs .. there are no tapes of trumans corruption .. why is it that the only kinda evidence that hits main stream media of any kind of tomfoolery unless it's placed on a republican? .. i want my kennedy tapes damn it!
joeytrimble 1 year ago
I admire Nixon, but he clearly had complex mental problems. However, he certainly will be remembered long after Pat Brown.
jimmbo13 1 year ago
no zombies shooting lol
detroitsbest 1 year ago
JERRY BROWN over that fat skunk Meg Whitman.
nonplayerzealot4 1 year ago
Really makes you wonder if Nixon was involved in the assassination...
moproducer 1 year ago
@moproducer Highly doubt it.......I'm sure Nixon didn't miss Kennedy, but theres nothing that really indicates he was involved. Even Robert Kennedy never put any kind of blame on Nixon. He was always more suspicious that LBJ could have been involved. Funny however that Pat Brown says Nixon can probly never recover.....when in fact he becomes President 7 years later! lol. Irony can be a bitch
williwo 1 year ago
@williwo I'll always believe that Nixon was in on it, along with the Bushes (I'm satisfied that Big George was a player). We'll never know for sure until we look down & see who's frying in Hell.
moproducer 1 year ago
@moproducer Thats fine......Just like I'll always believe Kennedy was in on Marilyn Monroe's Death. Theres more evidence that points to that than Nixon being involved with Kennedy getting capped off
williwo 1 year ago
@williwo Actually, I don't disagree with you on the Monroe thing.
moproducer 1 year ago
@williwo robert kennedy knew that oswald alone did it. he said it time and time again. ted kennedy said that RFK thought Oswald alone did it. So tired of internet conspiracy talk that needs to make things up.
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther Now wait a second. theres no way in hell Oswald did it alone if he in fact did it. Its just naive to think that. That wasnt a "Magic" bullet. There were at least 2 gunmen involved. That much i do know
williwo 1 year ago
Nixon was nuts.
catclaw357 1 year ago
"I just don't see how he can recover"
Oh indeed. Nixon was all washed up after '62. This is a good example of how Nixon's political opponents under estimated him.
Derby14 1 year ago
@Derby14 Nixon would have remaind a New York lawyer if JFK had lived.
TheFrogger15 1 year ago
@TheFrogger15 How do you figure that? Even if Kennedy had lived and was re-elected in 1964 (which we'd assume he would have been), I don't see why Nixon wouldn't have still been a legitimate candidate on the Republican side in 1968. I'm not saying he would have won the election, but why are you saying Nixon would not have been able to run at all if the JFK assassination had not taken place?
Derby14 1 year ago
@Derby14 I'm just saying that after he was defeated in the Calif. race in 1962, he retired from politics and became a New York lawer. Now with the JFK & RFK assassination's & LBJ's handling of the Vietnam war all open the door for him to run. If one of these incidents did not happen, I don't thik Nixon would have even considered to run in 1968. That's just one man's opinion.
TheFrogger15 1 year ago
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@TheFrogger15 You have made some very good points.
0907oliv 1 year ago
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@Derby14
"I just don't see how he can recover"
Oh indeed. Nixon was all washed up after '62. This is a good example of how Nixon's political opponents under estimated him.
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Yeah, your trite answer is in regards to two opponents who DID beat Nixon.
nonplayerzealot4 1 year ago
And Kennedy was elected thru his Dad......
Lovetogolf2005 1 year ago
they called it!
somaliwarlord 2 years ago
Maybe the person below would have preferred Richard Nixon as President in 1961. Let's see. He would have invaded Cuba at the Bay of Pigs. There would have probably been a nuclear confrontation over Cuba or Berlin. Since Nixon advised Eisenhower to use Nuclear Weapons against Vietnam in the 50's & advised Kennedy to use the Bomb during the Cuban Missile Crisis, he would have probably used the Bomb. Most Americans would have been killed & the person below would have never been born.
0907oliv 2 years ago
JFK functioned very well as President despite his health problems. He was NEVER wasted. I can say that with confidence because unlike the person below I was around during his Presidency.
0907oliv 2 years ago 10
@0907oliv ive actually argued with her before she says shes like 18 or something but in reality i think shes a paid troll or someone who goes on JFK things to talk about how bad he was, that his dad did this and that, how they killed m monroe, how he did acid, how vietnams his fault and on and on. his SS code name was Lancer. and she wont accept that gw bush went AWOL in 1972-1973 when drug testing became mandatory... or that laura bush killed some1 in a car accident.
pat442389 1 year ago
@pat442389 Yes, she definitely gets around on You Tube. Some people just delight in trying to destroy JFK's reputation. A lot of stuff written about the Kennedys is either not true or unsubstantiated. Some is true - but I certainly don't buy it all. The Monroe accusation is b.s. JFK was the greatest president of my life time. I am sorry that some people do not value this man. Fortunately plenty do. Ultimately, I firmly believe that historians will rate him highly.
0907oliv 1 year ago
@pat442389 Also, I guess she never read historian Dallek's book on JFK. Dallek looked at JFK's medical records during major crises, saw his drug intake go up, then listened to the tapes of meetings during that time and found him to be brilliant and lucid. In other words, the drug use had no effect on his performance as President. This is also evident in JFK's news conferences when he was so qucik and incisive with his answers.
0907oliv 1 year ago
@0907oliv well he did do drugs but it was for his severe back pain and addisons disease. so it might seem like he was taking a lot of drugs to ppl who have never done drugs. but the human body builds up a tolerance to drugs so to get the same effect over time you must take more. and your right obviously if he was slurring his words or nodding out the press, ss agents, the right or other ppl would have talked by now. its really weird how so many creeps come to JFK vids and spew garbage tho
pat442389 1 year ago
@pat442389 For the same reason people spew stuff on Nixon. The fact is, a lot of people know and understand that Kennedy was involved in shady corrupt dealings. He was no saint or martyr like he is often portrayed. Nixon, on the other hand, got caught. So its easier for the mainstream to blast him. I'm not saying that Kennedy was necessarily Evil...didnt know him personally. And I didnt know Nixon. But Kennedy, like his Father, had a very corrupt and wicked side
williwo 1 year ago
@0907oliv said:
"He was NEVER wasted."
I can very confidently say, after reading 3 biographies, that you are wrong - as much as I am full of admiration for JFK - you are wrong. He did get wasted on several occasions. He also, on occasion, exploited a drug administered to him by Dr. Max Jacobson (Doctor Feel Good). This drug's principal use to ease pains caused by his troublesome back. However he did on occasions use it for recreational purposes. Often remarking me felt "out of control" on it.
mehhh31 9 months ago
@mehhh31 My never wasted comment was to Pinksnotgoth who implied that he was a bad President and made comparisons to Ted Kennedy as if to imply JFK was drunk. From her comments I got the impression she had been reading Dark Side of Camelot. What bios have you read?
0907oliv 9 months ago
@0907oliv yeah your right its sad theres actually weirdos who comment badly on all JFK videos. its a way of destroying the lefts hero while propping up the reagan myth. what gets me is when they say ted killed mary jo, and act like it wasnt an accident and that he had 2 older brothers brutally, publicly murdered. JFK would have changed this country and world for the better and those who read dark side of camelot dont realize seymour was lied 2 and tricked on many stories by the CIA
pat442389 9 months ago
@pat442389 Not only that - a couple of people interviewed by Hersh said that they kept responding No to a question and he wrote that they said Yes. The whole book is questionable.
0907oliv 9 months ago
@pat442389 Re Ted Kennedy, the thing he did wrong at Chappaquiddick is not seeking help from nearby residence & not reporting it right away. He maintains in his autobiography that there was not anything between them and I have to accept that he wouldn't have lied on his death bed. He told a reporter long ago that he knew because of his reputation no one would believe it but this was the one time that there was nothing going on.
0907oliv 9 months ago
@0907oliv u prob. know this but chappaquiddick was a 1yr reunion of bobbys 68's pres. campaign. ted said in his last book he became emotional and wanted to leave and so 2 did mary jo. i actually think he drank a little but tried his hardest to save her life. after i think he might have realized oh shit what do i do now? and he went home and told his parents. once the girls dead in my mind 20mins or 2 hours dont matter 2 much. but im making excuses 4 him because of his famiy;s tragic past.
pat442389 9 months ago
@pat442389 I think you are giving a fair explanation. He was probably drinking too much but I am not convinced that the drinking was the cause of the accident. There were other factors. I think also he was in such a state of shock that he went into denial - I mean kind of did an escapist thing. Still - he really needed to own up right then and there. He lived with it the rest of his life. It was sad for Mary Joe & him both.
0907oliv 9 months ago
@0907oliv yeah the "road" was a tiny dirt bridge thing with no side or guard rails and it was late night with no street lights or any other lights around. he should have owned up to it, but he wasnt mature like hes older brothers, he was probably in a state of shock and probably felt that he had let everyone down. in the end it did keep him from being president or a serious candidate and damaged the kennedy name. but the pressure that was put on him from the kennedy fam and friends of RFK & JFK
pat442389 9 months ago
"Declassified papers report that John Kennedy was taking eight different medications a day. He was so wasted, his Secret Service code name was Ted Kennedy."
Pinksnotgoth 2 years ago
who are you? thats twice u mention this. Kennedy is well known and respected for his duty and service and ultimate sacrifice. he did have health problems stemming from ww2. so what.
CRUDSLUDGE 2 years ago
@Pinksnotgoth . Would you know what JFK's prescriptions were? If JFK was "wasted." I want to get those drugs myself.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
The only two presidents ever impeached were Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Nixon escaped impeachment by resigning.
MIleafsfan 2 years ago 3
nixon is under-rated. his otherwise impressive presidency is overshadowed by the watergate scandal. he was more than a match for any of his opponents and almost won the presidency of eisenhower singlehandedly
thrawnsbro 2 years ago 2
Ike actually considered dumping Nixon from the ticket in 1952.
rikarman1 2 years ago
true, hwever nixon again turned that around with the now famous "checkers" speech. another example of his ability to survive against the odds. watergate aside, nixon wasn't a bad president.
thrawnsbro 2 years ago
nixon was evil pure and simple. a macchiavellian secret oath bohemian new world order prponent. to hell with him. kent state. john lennon's issues. nixon had issues with protestors of the vietnam conflict. he is the albert speer of modern history. someone to whom vietnam lasted longer. not to mention the bombings he did over in cambodia.
CRUDSLUDGE 2 years ago
@thrawnsbro Nixon wasn't that underrated. McCord the Watergate burglar wrote he though Nixon would turn the USA into another Nazi Germany. And don't forget how he sabotaged the Paris Peace talks, so LBJ could not end the Vietnam war. Only 28 thousand more dead GI's to come, And what about how he incinerated Cambodia and allowed it to be turned it into Maoist hell hole. Dick was a real prince.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
Thank you for demonstrating how you are a novice with history.
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
@SuntUzi23 It's hard to teach the ignorant anything. None so blind as those who will not see because they don't want to. So tell me is ignorance really bliss?
TrueNovice 2 years ago
Im not sure, maybe you could enlighten me to that answer, you should know ignorance well. Your writing demonstrates it quite vividly...
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
@SuntUzi23 No grasshopper you must seek your own answers.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
lol thanks TrueNovice! You really are that all-knowing wise stranger who really showed me the way. Dude your post I originally commented on was pathetic, not just due to content, but approach and tone. You may say all you like, it doesnt change the fact that you are a fool.
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
@SuntUzi23 What was your problem with the original post anyway.? All I can say is how noble of you to allow me to continue to post here on youtube. You are a prince of a man, and I don't mean that in a gay way, you know like you are a homosexual or something. So don't misunderstand me.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
LOL! You really are a fool!
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
@SuntUzi23 I guess with all the drugs you don' remember why you were offended - to refresh your addled brain I said Tricky Dicky's campaign sabotaged the Paris peace talks that would have ended the war in 1968. Dick sent work to the S. Vietnamese delegation, not to accept the terms since they would get a better deal if Dick was elected. So there was no deal, the war continued another 7 years and cost the lives of another 28,000 Americans. And you find this amusing.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
TrueNovice, I will be breif, you are boring.
I remember everything, especially why I started. I dont speak without thinking, but clearly you are very talented at assuming and being arrogant. I say this, because your comments have demonstrated them perfectly.
Way to flip the issue. I dont find the death of 28,000 Americans amusing, again an assumption on your part. What I find amsuing is your accounts of history, as well as government.
I suggest you open up a book, one without a bias.
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
Lastly, when I say bias, I am not speaking about Red v. Blue, that is for politically imature, and unaware people. I dont have time to debate with people who really believe the Liberal and Republican fabrications. In addition, you talk about these people as if you knew them.
You're quite the character!
Again I stand behind my original sentiments, you are a true Novice.
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
@SuntUzi23 My comments were interesting enough for you to respond to them. You have not refuted any assertion I have made, because you cannot., if you have issues with the facts, let's hear them. After all this is a public forum and there must be someone else reading this besides you.
TrueNovice 2 years ago
Here are some legitimate points you now raise. I am a fair person. I would be glad to refute it, however if you would be so kind as to let me organize it all and present it to you in a message inbox.
Your comments were definitely interesting enough to respond. We shall debate this soon enough.
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
Its funny how silly you are!
SuntUzi23 2 years ago
They were burying Nixon's career here and he was President of the United States less than 8 years later.
BamaChris 2 years ago
His career was buried at that point, it was the four-way division of the Dem. party in '68 that give it life again.
esb84 2 years ago
Kennedy was absolutely right. Nixon had serious issues.
hopkins4545 2 years ago 18
@hopkins4545 He had an IQ of 140 that comes with some quirks, but he never fucked on his wife or put his family's political aspirations above the countries needs.
matrix49A 11 months ago
@matrix49A watergate!
BlueBlueFeelin 10 months ago
@matrix49A Of course, Nixon did not put his families aspirations above the country. But, that asshole did put the mafia's aspirations above the country. He did not fuck around on his wife. But, he fucked the American people. I saw the picture of him with Preston Bush. I saw the pic of him with the mafia. He was already linked to Jack Ruby.
arther1046 10 months ago
@hopkins4545 what issues did he have? don't say anything about watergate
conraddoavil 7 months ago
@conraddoavil Explain why the man is dying... but don't say anything about the cancer!
mrfester42 7 months ago
@mrfester42 dude c'mon, compared to what these corrupt politicians are doing in our government today are doing, SPYING on the American people should be an impeachable offense! nixon never took anyones civil liberties aways
conraddoavil 7 months ago
@conraddoavil Did you read one or two books on Nixon or watch a cable documentary on him and think you've got him pegged? I'll asume you want to know the truth about these things and just say this. This is not the forum to learn about these things. Something like this is a course of study in itself and 1 or 2 books or hundreds of newsclips will teach you very little. Nixon definitely took civil liberties away, among other very wrong doings but I can't convince you here. Good luck learning!
mrfester42 6 months ago
jack kennedy is my hero
period
pt109girl 2 years ago
Yeah and then a " nut " named Ronald Reagan beat the pants off Pat Brown and was able to fix all the problems Pat Brown that greattttttttt Liberal had done in california.
thebig1 2 years ago
Nixon might have been a little nutty, but at least he wasn't carrying sexually transmitted diseases like JFK from banging a new slut every day.
wonkacorp 2 years ago
yea that makes sens. one liked the ladies, the other was a psycho and you side with the psycho? fucking hillbilly
skinwalkerxxx 2 years ago
fucking a new slut every day is reckless, and unbalanced. JFK was also taking a drug cocktail for his back that included speed...all while the world was on the brink of nuclear war. Sorry, JFK was the real nut.
wonkacorp 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
In that day, speed wasn't an illegal drug, you redneck.If he was taking it, it was subscribed by his docter.
Richard Nixon actually made Kennedy and Lindon's work undone and pushed everyone deeper into nuclear war, or didn't your history teacher tell you that?
Is he/she a republican like yourself?
Retard...
matenizer 2 years ago
Taking a drug like speed is reckless judgment. Screwing a different woman every day is reckless judgment.
As for Nixon, he did what Lincoln did: he took a nation that was at civil war, and ended it. The terrible riots, the anti-war protests, the Weathermen terrorists--he solved alll that. And as for nuclear war, Nixon negotiated the SALT I Treaty, that saw the US and the USSR agree to limit the arms race. That, along with his policy of detente, made nuclear war FAR LESS Likely. Read a book.
wonkacorp 2 years ago
Jhonson was busy with peace with the Sovjet Union when Nixon went to talk to the russians behind his back.
Nixon words to the Russians:
YOU
GET
A
BETTER
DEAL
UNDER
NIXON
matenizer 2 years ago
I think you are confusing the South Vietnamese with the Russians.
wonkacorp 2 years ago
I am, sorry.
Still, if he hadn't done that, bet a lot of shit would've been avoided.
matenizer 2 years ago
No way...the North Vietnamese were determined to get South Vietnam,and indeed, they did so in 1975. To think that if Nixon stayed out of the 1968 peace talks somehow the war would have ended, is madness. The North Vietnamese didn't give up until they acheived their objectives. Nixon's intervention was politics, but so was Johnson when he did a bombing halt. Both sides played politics with Vietnam, but nothing they did changed the eventual outcome.
wonkacorp 2 years ago 2
most of the stuff you just said (besides the stuff about Nixon) could be found in metal gear portable ops plus cause they talk about that stuff A WHOOOOOLLEEEE LOT.
randyrhoadsbgp 2 years ago
lol, Nixon, more than any president after 1945, was the most important world leader of the Nuclear age. Your boy Johnsin bankrupted the economy with his domestic spending while escalating the war in Vietnam to an untenable breaking point.
Nixon had to clean up the mess, if thats what you mean by undone.
Nebel64 2 years ago 2
your a fool
Nebel64 2 years ago
red neck
skinwalkerxxx 2 years ago
haha....degenerate
Nebel64 2 years ago
I wouldn't call someone wanting to sleep with Marylin Monroe a degenerate. It's the normal course of life. Although you might be a closet gay.
skinwalkerxxx 2 years ago
I was calling you a degenerate, degenerate...I think Kennedy was a good president.
And adultery isnt the normal course of life, whatever that idiotic remark meant.
Nebel64 2 years ago 2
I think you confound "normal course of life" and "society".
Read you history and you will learn that adultery has been common amongst leaders especially kings. It didn't make them less of leaders. Quite the opposite. When you get you stuck up guys the result is Hitler, Nixon and Bush. I'll take the Chief that has three girlfriends.
If the guy has to be an effective Leader of men, I don't mind him having a few wives also.
skinwalkerxxx 2 years ago
watch john f. kennedy assasination in my videos click on my account 2 watch a video that most people have never saw and it has sound
JDLealPio16 2 years ago
bullshit, other places paid higher gas prices, what your saying is you would rather have the whole economy crumbling and have cheap gas, than a good economy and higher gas ? wow you are fucking stupid
clownman888 3 years ago
yea we're likely seeing the same train wreck from slightly different angles. I'm pretty mad about the 1912 federal reserve thing, and wish we could do something to limit or stop it.
ferich2001 3 years ago
I'm not sure about how much m1 matters, but I DO know that NO FEDERAL Financial seem to have been enforced since about 1998.
BOTH Clinton and Bush admins seemed to have maintained the same policies, allowing wholesale rape of our financial system from wall street barons on down to street level con men.
The fed then set up this collapse to enrich their billionaire insiders,& cause a bailout that the fed uses to transfer wealth from the US taxpayer to itself
ferich2001 3 years ago
Well, I agree with abolishing the fed, and my point is actually that it's the fed(run by private banks)Wall street influence(through the banks)and government corruption(aka,enron et al)that has created this collapse.
most of these banks that received the money, didn't need it and have used the money to buy out their non-connected competition that needed the bailout,but didn't get any.
This mess started around 1998 when the government stopped all oversight and enforcement of all financial laws.
ferich2001 3 years ago
et al is if you are talking about a person, brush up on grammar.
clownman888 3 years ago
Thank you for your response. I agree with your conclusions about the two factions of our single party system concerning the border. However, I have to disagree with your misunderstanding of our banking system.
Raising interest rates,taxes,and gasoline all have the same effect,which is to limit the money supply.
Adjustable mortgage rates are fine as longer as interest rates are stable,but when you raise them 12 TIMES IN less than a year, then nobody can afford them.
ferich2001 3 years ago
Actually Bernanke RAISED interest rates 12 times during 2007, which caused the sub-prime to prime banking meltdown in aug of 2007. I agree with the border thing BTW, and I wonder why neither political party will do anything about it...?
ferich2001 3 years ago
When Bush cut the taxes it was BEFORE 09/11/01 You fail to take into consideration that we took an enourmous hit on our economy because of 09/11 and if it were not for thed tax cuts and low interest rates we would have had a lot more trouble. Until the latest economic catastrophe the deficit was coming down, even with two wars going on. Bush made mistakes, but the focus of his administration since 09/11 has been keeping our country safe from terrorists.
bigjoetube 3 years ago
I am glad Bush has been president instead of you. You make decisions about him because of his poll numbers. I make decisions about him by how he has lead. History will show he brought the fight to our enemy and kept them from coming back to our shores.
bigjoetube 3 years ago
You are a ideological coward/hypocrite of a libertarian in your pathetic defense of Reagan (who was obviously not a libertarian).
Doesn't matter though I haven't really decided yet who are more annoying, libertarians or conservatives. As dead as conservatives are at the moment though they aren't nearly as irrelevant as libertarians so I guess there's always that.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
President outlines the funding recommendations and has power to veto the appropriations. Either way the budget was Reagan's budget the way he wanted it to be. As were the tax cuts. That you even tried to blame Laffer is hilarious xD. You idiots can take no responsibility for your own shit whatsoever. The deficits were conscious choices. Cheney learned it from Reagan "deficits don't matter".
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
God you are so pathetic hahaha. So now the Democrats are to blame for Reagan's defense spending? How do you take yourself seriously?
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
You people are either a bunch of liars or really dumb. Reagans spending in the eighties on defense forced the Soviets into bankruptcy. This allowed the party in the 90's where Clinton could balance the budget because we thought we would never have another enemy to fight a cold or hot war. Then came 09/11. Say what you want about George W. Bush, he has kept us safe for over 7 years from terrorism. I hope we can say the same for Obama.
bigjoetube 3 years ago
You are a complete dishonest hypocrite for making a distinction with Reagan. The guy who pioneered putting the country on a mortgage. He was the first president to increase the debt as a % of the GDP as he did in peace time outside of a recession. Cutting taxes and footing the bill to future generations to pay for them is despicable and so is Reagan.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
I told you you were an insane loon xD
Anyway Christians may be useful idiots to republicans but they are very much part of the same insane groups with the same insane ideas that have wrecked your country and much of the world.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Oh but I AM Euro.
Listen dude you are a libertarian conspiracist loon. Nobody really cares anymore about your ideas. You Americans are already teaching us a lesson in socialism, comrade xD. Can't wait till the ENTIRE West is finally rid of braindead conservatives like yourself. Rather than just 2/3 of the west.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Imf just reported that France became wealthier than the USA, allong with 15 other nations (13 of them European and Canada and Australia as well). The lowest ranking EVER for the USA. Which was 4th when Clinton left office (which is the usual ranking).
Neoliberalism has FAILED and nobody gives a shit about Reagan or Thatcher anymore. Where's your god now huh?
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
You are so pathetic xD. Maybe we'll see you cons again after another 50 year brake like last time. As for now try not to stink the place up rotting in the the wilderness.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
And a conservative would have accepted the crucifixion if they had any balls whatsoever. None of the problems of this country can be solved by any of the methods proposed by any party because the fallout would eliminate the entire group from politics for 20 years. By then the opposition would destroy any progress made, and everything would go back to square one. Universal health care can work in a democratic nation (Canada Japan all of our allies). so can legalization (Holland Denmark)
senglord 3 years ago
you rant has no logical structure at all.
Learn to use punctuation or I will have
no choice to conclude that these posts
are the random words of some Ayn Rand
schizophrenic.
senglord 3 years ago
Odd that you place so much faith in the Sudanese Govt.
Anyway, what choice did he have with conservatives holding the pursestrings and the 80's debt like a lodestone around his neck.
The CIA had been misappropriating billions of dollars then and now, so stop throwing stale feces around.
This country is going to be dealing with the consequences of Reagan's senility for the next hundred years. Mexico became the USA's chief pusher because of his harebrained WAR ON DRUGS and so much more
senglord 3 years ago
So now suddenly the election of 1984 is more relevant than 2006 and 2008? God I hope all conservatives are as clueless as you. This could become a triple wave election. Certainly looks like it with the way cons are rallying around Palin. A certified moron with a 40% approval rating. This 'deeply conservative country' wants universal healthcare, action on cilmate change as well as more regulation if opinion polls are to be believed. In a conservative's book that makes you a commie.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
I don't trust conservatives yes. And they have proven time and time again that they don't deserve any trust or can bare any responsibility. These idiots blame Pelosi for the way they vote in congress. Oh no she said mean things about Bush! We HAD to vote against the country (in their own rhetoric) because of HER!
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
@wreddon?
Are moving to London? Did move to London you mean. It's funny you blame Bush for this because it has been happening for the last 20 years. It is cold comfort for London now though. A city built on a bubble.
Why on earth do oyu keep on referencing Hong Kong xD It's a trade city! A haven! It DEPENDS on the rest of the 'socialist' 'keynesian or communist east and west. To borrow a phraze from you randroids, Hong Kong is a parasite. It's far poorer than the rest of the West however.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
wreddon.
the conservatives bashed Clinton for putting troops into Somalia.
Now the Conservatives criticize Clinton for not putting more troops into Somalia.
Six years into a conservative administration.
This makes perfect sense.
Conservatives are like children that throw tantrums when they don't get whatever they want when they want it.
But it is up to liberals to be the adults and protect them from the results of their childish and reckless desires.
Tut-Tut
The White House is for adults only.
senglord 3 years ago
YES.
IT MUCH better than the Conservatives that
1. Eliminated a democratic uprising in Iran in the 50's to put "the Suitcase shah" back in power.
-> Carter would have done the same, but the Shah died of cancer before he could.
2. The Conservatives who funded Bin Laden and the other jihadist groups in the 1980's because they trusted the ISI with US taxpayer money/drug money.
-> Clinton bombed BL twice Bush2 said he "was irrelevant to the war on terror" Conservatives agree with that.
senglord 3 years ago
Geert Wilders the prophet xD. Sigh to bad we have so man morons like you in the west. I'm afraid we are waisting a lot of energy thanks to people like you.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
@wreddon
What the fuck does Iceland have to do with this xD. Jesus Christ you are one fucktarded hypocrite! Iceland is fucked by the (America's) financial crisis = failure of European style socialism. America is fucked by it's own financial crisis = coincidence? lol you are pathetic! 300k people live in Iceland, irrelevant. Iceland was fucked because like London and New York embraced the conservative creed of anarchistic capitalism.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
@wreddon
"If only we taxed everyone who makes a buck and regulate everything, and just let everyone in the world do whatever they wanted America would be a perfect country"
Nice red herring. Carter was a moderate.
Unemployment and inflation started to surge under Ford.
Denmark unemployment stood at 3.5% a few months ago (maybe 4% now).
it hasn't been 15% in the last 28 years at least. You are full of shit. Typical conservative.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
.. You don't know jack... Denmark is at less than 4%. Far less than the USA. The UK is pretty low for a Western European country but the Nordic countries and the lowlands are far lower.
You said it was 15% you were off by almost 10% and are backtracking. Pathetic.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
"Volcker did what he wanted, Reagan wanted a better rate but the Fed wanted to get inflation down as quickly as possible, which led to the deficit rising faster than it would have."
That doesn't make any sense, rising deficit's spur inflation. Just as interest rate increases spur deflation. Second time you mixed up a basic economic fact. Please educate yourself a bit.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
@wreddon
It is hilarious how you hypocritically excuse Reagan of throwing your stupid little ideology out the window.
The EU (27 members 500 million people) last time I checked had an unemployment rate of 6.7%. Unlike the USA the EU also counts those who stopped looking for work, add to that the welfare state and it is impressive considering the US pretty much is officially at 6.5% now as well.
You ought to know your numbers before you start spouting your ideological crap.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Heck I don't remember the actual rates I only remember the chart. You mentioned 12% I thought you mentioned Carter. I remembered that Carter unemployment (and inflation) though higher was not substantially higher than Ford and the trend clearly started with Ford. Raising interest rates doesn't push out deflation it pushed toward deflation. You raise interest rates if you want to decrease the expansion of the money suply/combat inflation. Bush was a deficit madman and so was Reagan.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
@wreddon
Unemployment was a hell of a lot higher than 12% under Hoover, and had already reached it with Ford. i wouldn't be suprised if we hit it again following the horrors of Bush's stupid Reaganism.
As for inflation, at the end of the day all that matters is economic growth adjusted for inflation (real growth) which has been stronger under democrats for all the 20th century.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
@wreddon
Of the current congress republicans have done the vast majority of obstructing so I'm not sure what your point is.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
who sabotaged the negotiations in 68.
then expanded the war into cambodia, creating the Khemer Rouge in the process
and Laos OMFG
Who sabotaged the negotiations with the iranians in 1980
Then acted a bitch in 1982 by giving them guns, money, and the lives of 241 marines
who created record deficits in the early 80s that we cant pay
Who made war on drugs while funding narcos
zetas,contras,etc
Who agreed to combine the US justice system with canada and MEXICO.
You should thank GOD for liberals
senglord 3 years ago
he also sabotaged the 1968 negotiations.
the man was an asshole when it came to getting himself into power.
He WAS good on foreign policy.
The media is only "liberal" because the "conservatives" don't like people to "know too much" about what they're doing
senglord 3 years ago
nixon was a patriot
powerfulsamoan 3 years ago
JFK was such an awesome dude. Heck his infidelity made him even more legendary if you ask me ;). I think Clinton was trying to emulate him. He failed of course but even that still made Clinton cool.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
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AmericanPie37 3 years ago
JFK has suffered "posthumous assassination," albeit, he did occasionally stray, a character flaw heightened by dependence on massive doses of cortisone owing to acute Addison's Disease. (Arthritic patients treated with cortisone injections at the Mayo Clinic in 1947 were found to similarly experience heightened libidos as a result of dosages.) Still, he loved Jacqueline & adored his children. This was a good & decent man who, however imperfect, was still an ethical, moral man to be admired.
WALRU11 3 years ago 4
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AmericanPie37 3 years ago
Jack had Addison's, so too, sister, Eunice. His political philosophy (ala that of TR, FDR, Camus, & Frankl) evolved from his acute consciousness of vulnerability, mortality, & empathy with those who suffer. He was born during an era of not only anti-immigrant prejudice, but W.A.S.P. programs promoting eugenics upon ethnic & racial minorities considered inherently inferior. He championed egalitarian democracy as a writer (A Nation of Immigrants) & statesman. JFK was truly an enlightened leader.
WALRU11 3 years ago
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AmericanPie37 2 years ago
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AmericanPie37 2 years ago
Nixon = pathetic maniac
JFK = killed by his zionist masters
fucking up USA these days
bananito2 3 years ago
pat brown had nixon down...he was a paranoid
truly amazing that he came back from the "you wont have nixon to kick around anymore" speech
had there been an internet back then, he probably wouldnt have
brabon1 3 years ago
I think Nixon was a decent man and president but I agree with Jack he kinda was psychotic
AmericanPie37 3 years ago
In his youth, seeking the approval of his mother, Hannah, Dick Nixon aspired to decency. What crippled him was his angry abusive father, Frank. All his life Poor Richard sought approval from surrogate father figures (Meyer Lansky, Ike, the Dulles brothers, J. Edgar Hoover) only to be regarded an expedient toady. What set Nixon on his fallen path was his business debacle of 1938 when he lost everything in his feckless concentrated orange juice venture. His only out became mob money.
WALRU11 3 years ago
Nixon was a Vice-President and his influence should not be underestimated. After all, he was defeated and humiliated by Kennedy and maintained contacts in government,probably within the CIA itself.
regi9876 3 years ago