(Part 1)It is true that the Kennedy's were devout Catholics.His Mother was one of the last people to be given the Papel Knighthood.Kennedy was by his own admission a flawed individual.You ,however view morality in purely ecumenical terms.What you are basically demonizing about Ted was his ability to look on the Church for his own spiritual guidance , He got his values and morals where very one should, the Home and his own elevated ideals.This is what you find so distasteful, this is what you
One thing you should understand aafxa2 is that I am not a Roman Catholic, I am in communion with the Holy See of Utrecht via the American Old Catholic Church. Ted Kennedy was under a works covenant due to the heresy of molinism that has been pushed by the Jesuits for the past 400 years, so that is how I have judged him. Rome is not in communion with Christ so long as the Jesuits are tolerated.
P.S. - And for the record, I oppose any politician receiving any foreign title holding
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What a bunch of crap. This babbel is nothing but your opinion. If you look at the teachings of Jesus he was always looking out for the least of the population.
The rich and well heeled didn't need special attention. "In as much as you have done it for one of these, you have done it for me" Ted was not perfect none of us are, but he believed in redemtion. He who is with out sin cast the first stone.
Get off your high horse Bud, it's not that complicated.
lol I love it when halfwit pseudo-Christians come on here trying to be clever. Can you even cite the bible verse that you are quoting?
I suggest instead of getting your scripture from what is probably an apostate church you dust off a copy of the New Testament, assuming you even own one, and do some research to find out just how much of it goes against what you are suggesting is truth.
In my delving into Augustinian grace theology, as well as accounts in scripture, midnight confessions are a pretty rare thing and usually only occur in a public way. I can envision Kennedy chanting prayers in a hypocritical fashion the way many heretics do on his death bed, but a real midnight confession would have required a true understanding of the Gospels, which is less than likely given the theology of his church and how contrary his sayings and doings were to them.
Hellsunicorn It amazes me how judgmental so many are on this thread. How dare any of us decide Ted's relationship between himself and his God. He did more in his career to pen legislation and to sponsor other efforts to help the less fortunate than anyone else. Midnight confessions? Where there is life there is hope.
The thief on the cross next to Jesus "remember me when you inter into your kingdom" (Jesus) "Tonight you will be with me in paradise" Smoke that in your pipe.
I'm not the one judging him johnnyohness, the unborn babies that he committed genocide against, Mary Jo Kopechne, and all of the people who he harmed with his policy, his votes, his ideology, his poison.
I have an addendum to this video that I just put up with a link to an interview with a man whose 14 year old daughter Kennedy said he wanted to screw right to his face. Unrepentant adulterers and fornicators are not saved, let alone a willing servant of the whore of Babylon in Rome.
And also, I'm still waiting for you to explain the 3 quotes I just threw at you. I can throw a few dozen more at you, in fact, given the Kennedy family's religious ties to the Vatican, I could use the whole book of Revelations to refute what you are saying.
I remember Ted as the stand in for Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer for the Congressional Christmas play. Good ole Teddy... as could be counted on to have REALLY good booze in his pocket flask. Just don't let him drive... trust me.
Hell, it was his brother! How did he sit by all these years , knowing it was somone involved in his work-place, (congress, CIA, etc) and remain silent? Ultimately, his quest for power and not truth make him less than impressive to me. Also, you raise good points here with his questionable "Catholic" behavior. Cheers.
I know very little of Ted kennedy, but what I can't understand is if there ARE so many supporters of this guy: why won't they ask one of THE most important un-answered questions still facing our country today: WHO KILLED JFK?
In the case of Fed Kennedy, er Ted Kennedy, perhaps the more interesting question or reminder is... who killed Mary Jo Kopechne. For those suggesting Ted was punished enough over it, pls remind me what punishment was that? Oh, HELL? Yes, that is certainly one of the things he has to look forward to.
Yes indeed. One of the reasons why I didn't bring up this particular point was because I knew everyone else would be talking about it. So in addition to committing 4 deadly sins (Lust, Gluttony, Sloth and Pride), he also broke the 6th commandment. Well, then again, most Roman Church folks are renowned commandment breakers, they even rewrote the 2nd commandment to get rid of the images part after the 2nd Council of Nicaea.
I've nearly finished a 24 part lecture which touched on that subject many parts ago, lol, but can't remember what it was about. How does 'their' fourth differ from the Torah?
The Roman 2nd commandment, which is upheld in Lutheran Churches as well, only pertains to taking the lord's name in vain and cursing, there is nothing specific to graven images. This is largely because the 2nd Council of Nicaea allowed for the use of images as a teaching tool for the propagation of the Vulgate for non-Latin speakers. This is how you get depictions of Yahweh and Jesus at the Sistine Chapel.
No problem, I take a somewhat moderate view on the issue of images as it pertains to depictions of the crucifixion, otherwise I'd stop wearing my crucifix and using a rosary in prayer, but I can see exactly where John Calvin and other Reformers were coming from on this issue, especially when it comes to depicting God the Father as some bearded guy who resembles Zeus sitting on a cloud.
The churches have definitely backslid from the body of Christ, that is for sure. In all manner and denomination. They've become as bad if not WORSE than the pharisees and saducees having had the benefit of the promised Helper yet thwarting and cavorting in self-righteousness rather than His righteousness.
But I am working on my faith daily and don't profess to know much except what is written in red, etc.
That is usually the best place to look. I have to confess that up until about a year ago I was heavily reliant on Medieval theologians and Neo-Thomists for my understanding of scripture. I have a lot of specialized knowledge in Catholic sacraments, church history and conspiracies, as well as the Latin translation known as the Vulgate, but a lot of these pursuits hampered my general understanding of the Gospels, something which I've been remedying lately.
(Part 1)It is true that the Kennedy's were devout Catholics.His Mother was one of the last people to be given the Papel Knighthood.Kennedy was by his own admission a flawed individual.You ,however view morality in purely ecumenical terms.What you are basically demonizing about Ted was his ability to look on the Church for his own spiritual guidance , He got his values and morals where very one should, the Home and his own elevated ideals.This is what you find so distasteful, this is what you
aafxa2 2 years ago
One thing you should understand aafxa2 is that I am not a Roman Catholic, I am in communion with the Holy See of Utrecht via the American Old Catholic Church. Ted Kennedy was under a works covenant due to the heresy of molinism that has been pushed by the Jesuits for the past 400 years, so that is how I have judged him. Rome is not in communion with Christ so long as the Jesuits are tolerated.
P.S. - And for the record, I oppose any politician receiving any foreign title holding
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
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What a bunch of crap. This babbel is nothing but your opinion. If you look at the teachings of Jesus he was always looking out for the least of the population.
The rich and well heeled didn't need special attention. "In as much as you have done it for one of these, you have done it for me" Ted was not perfect none of us are, but he believed in redemtion. He who is with out sin cast the first stone.
Get off your high horse Bud, it's not that complicated.
johnnyohness 2 years ago
lol I love it when halfwit pseudo-Christians come on here trying to be clever. Can you even cite the bible verse that you are quoting?
I suggest instead of getting your scripture from what is probably an apostate church you dust off a copy of the New Testament, assuming you even own one, and do some research to find out just how much of it goes against what you are suggesting is truth.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.
1 John 3:10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God.
This is some of what awaits you when you actually learn something from scripture that isn't constantly cited by the mainstream media.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
Perhaps a midnight confession did take place. That was only after the damage has been done. This country will suffer Ted kennedy for years to come.
spanky061970 2 years ago 3
In my delving into Augustinian grace theology, as well as accounts in scripture, midnight confessions are a pretty rare thing and usually only occur in a public way. I can envision Kennedy chanting prayers in a hypocritical fashion the way many heretics do on his death bed, but a real midnight confession would have required a true understanding of the Gospels, which is less than likely given the theology of his church and how contrary his sayings and doings were to them.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
Hellsunicorn It amazes me how judgmental so many are on this thread. How dare any of us decide Ted's relationship between himself and his God. He did more in his career to pen legislation and to sponsor other efforts to help the less fortunate than anyone else. Midnight confessions? Where there is life there is hope.
The thief on the cross next to Jesus "remember me when you inter into your kingdom" (Jesus) "Tonight you will be with me in paradise" Smoke that in your pipe.
johnnyohness 2 years ago
I'm not the one judging him johnnyohness, the unborn babies that he committed genocide against, Mary Jo Kopechne, and all of the people who he harmed with his policy, his votes, his ideology, his poison.
I have an addendum to this video that I just put up with a link to an interview with a man whose 14 year old daughter Kennedy said he wanted to screw right to his face. Unrepentant adulterers and fornicators are not saved, let alone a willing servant of the whore of Babylon in Rome.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
And also, I'm still waiting for you to explain the 3 quotes I just threw at you. I can throw a few dozen more at you, in fact, given the Kennedy family's religious ties to the Vatican, I could use the whole book of Revelations to refute what you are saying.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
I remember Ted as the stand in for Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer for the Congressional Christmas play. Good ole Teddy... as could be counted on to have REALLY good booze in his pocket flask. Just don't let him drive... trust me.
MrWizenBud 2 years ago
Hell, it was his brother! How did he sit by all these years , knowing it was somone involved in his work-place, (congress, CIA, etc) and remain silent? Ultimately, his quest for power and not truth make him less than impressive to me. Also, you raise good points here with his questionable "Catholic" behavior. Cheers.
KaylorMade 2 years ago
I know very little of Ted kennedy, but what I can't understand is if there ARE so many supporters of this guy: why won't they ask one of THE most important un-answered questions still facing our country today: WHO KILLED JFK?
KaylorMade 2 years ago
clearly a Bush/CIA/Mossad job.
PwndByTheFed 2 years ago
In the case of Fed Kennedy, er Ted Kennedy, perhaps the more interesting question or reminder is... who killed Mary Jo Kopechne. For those suggesting Ted was punished enough over it, pls remind me what punishment was that? Oh, HELL? Yes, that is certainly one of the things he has to look forward to.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago 3
Yes indeed. One of the reasons why I didn't bring up this particular point was because I knew everyone else would be talking about it. So in addition to committing 4 deadly sins (Lust, Gluttony, Sloth and Pride), he also broke the 6th commandment. Well, then again, most Roman Church folks are renowned commandment breakers, they even rewrote the 2nd commandment to get rid of the images part after the 2nd Council of Nicaea.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
I've nearly finished a 24 part lecture which touched on that subject many parts ago, lol, but can't remember what it was about. How does 'their' fourth differ from the Torah?
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
The Roman 2nd commandment, which is upheld in Lutheran Churches as well, only pertains to taking the lord's name in vain and cursing, there is nothing specific to graven images. This is largely because the 2nd Council of Nicaea allowed for the use of images as a teaching tool for the propagation of the Vulgate for non-Latin speakers. This is how you get depictions of Yahweh and Jesus at the Sistine Chapel.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
Very interesting, thanks for the info :-)
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
No problem, I take a somewhat moderate view on the issue of images as it pertains to depictions of the crucifixion, otherwise I'd stop wearing my crucifix and using a rosary in prayer, but I can see exactly where John Calvin and other Reformers were coming from on this issue, especially when it comes to depicting God the Father as some bearded guy who resembles Zeus sitting on a cloud.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago
The churches have definitely backslid from the body of Christ, that is for sure. In all manner and denomination. They've become as bad if not WORSE than the pharisees and saducees having had the benefit of the promised Helper yet thwarting and cavorting in self-righteousness rather than His righteousness.
But I am working on my faith daily and don't profess to know much except what is written in red, etc.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
That is usually the best place to look. I have to confess that up until about a year ago I was heavily reliant on Medieval theologians and Neo-Thomists for my understanding of scripture. I have a lot of specialized knowledge in Catholic sacraments, church history and conspiracies, as well as the Latin translation known as the Vulgate, but a lot of these pursuits hampered my general understanding of the Gospels, something which I've been remedying lately.
hellsunicorn 2 years ago