Patch work of systems that don't talk to each other well? Wow it's amazing we have any internet at all - who do we blame for that Alcatel Lucent? Idealogical.
Fibre for everyone would be great - we could all link hands and sing kumbaya. And we will acheive things we havn't even though of yet - yer imagine social networking on the NBN - it'll be... er... the same.
Fibre is great, but not affordable. Why doesn't the government pay for everyone to have an F1 in their driveway?
@alivateRocket "And we will acheive things we havn't even though of yet - yer imagine social networking on the NBN - it'll be... er... the same."
So you say that we'll achieve things we haven't thought of yet then immediately mention something already thought of. Are you mentally retarded or do you just come across that way?
A complete and total scam , as a former Electronics Technichian in the Royal Australian Navy this system/plan will do nothing. It will however allow the goverment to monitor and potentionally ban/ restrict acces to internet sites and what information Australians can access. I have been playing online computer games against people from all over the world for years and never had a speed connection problem.
i love the road metaphor, simply because it doesn't work. their same road metaphor shows the problem- the NBN is a 10 lane street to every house, as opposed to the (logical) system of highways and main roads
@TheHappyKamper It's a marketing video from one of the potential suppliers who stands to gain a lot from the rollout of the NBN. It's also 2 years old - back when the NBN in it's current form was pretty new and not yet fully defined. It does do a credible job of explaining what the idea behind the NBN is, though it doesn't address the FUD which is currently being spread about - although in all fairness, the campaign against the NBN hadn't really started when this was first released.
NBN is a total joke, it gives the Goverment power to monitor and filter internet data. Faster internet yes, but it's at a cost, can't watch or view anything they don't want you to see. Much like China. Companys like Optus and Telstra hae been getting network tax breaks for many years, then they turn around and say they can't afford to put down new cables, so the Goverment steps in and uses tax dollars to do what Optus and Telstra should have done with the the profts, sad day for Australia.
@UHAX101 I dont think that the government will filter and watch everything, look a telstra they were once own by the gov and now they are just some stupid greedy telecom company now they might just sell NBNco later on, and if i recall they not going to be bringing in the ISP Filtering anymore
@jafisher1991 Laws to filter (restrict) and monitor data in Australia are already being passed. Live trials were started in 2008, google 'Internet censorship in Australia' for more information.
@UHAX101 The filter's been scrapped. The Government just isn't making it obvious so they don't have yet another backflip to deal with in the public eye. Wonder why you've heard nothing about it from any media source for, say, the past 6 months?
@golmatolsi i have ADSL2+ and it's still not fast but I'm with TPG i get 12-15MB download speed and 1 MB upload speed when i see America get 1-10GB download & upload speeds. witch is BULL SHIT for Australia
@Combine999 the USA is only just getting 1Gbit in most states its still the same as us, Google is doing a trial in Kansas City later this year to see if 1gbit is possible, Australia will always be behind everyone else
Get ready to pay for this for years fellow Aussies in the name of increasing GDP the very same GDP and monetary system that keeps you enslaved on a daily basis!
Maybe if we could get the mining industry and the banks to pay some TAX we could actually afford to do this. Otherwise.. tell 'em they're dreaming! XD
Yes great idea, now rural areas can use internet high speed instead of going to hospitals and doctors and waiting years, they can now perform their own operations at home via internet instructions in real time.
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT UP OUR ELECTRICITY PRICES IN PREPERATION OF THE NBN, ONCE THE NBN IS IN WE ARE GOING TO USE IT MORE BECAUSE WE CAN WHICH WILL DRIVE OUR ELECTRICITY UP! MILKING US BLIND!
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 But its already fast..I dont need it to be faster its fine.. Like everything in this world if its more available to you then you use it more, then its overconsumed . Australia is the 3rd highest paying country for its internet and our speed rank 54th slowest in the world... I'll only agree with the NBN if we pay next to nothing to use it..
@phunki3ee Not meaning to sound rude or anything, but you do know how xDSL services work right? (Speed over distance) Also, the NBN isn't about just broadband, pricing does come into play - where Telstra's monopoly is dissolved and competition can introduce lower prices.
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 Im sure xDSL is faster than ADSL... at the end of the day we dont need it.. I'd rather our gov spend the money on improving our roads... also with competition does lower prices, but we will still pay through the roof compared to other countries..
xDSL is just DSL services...the x is the classification variable; there is no such thing as 'xDSL'. Anyway, forget that part - too long to explain. If you want to talk money, let's talk money. The cost of the NBN is less than 1% of the National Budget; more money is already being spent on roads (even roads that YOU don't use). Prices will lower, part of the high pricing scheme in Australia in the moment is due to maintenance of the copper (Fibre does not degrade/oxidize).
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 ok fair enough, high side NBN will create jobs...another thing would you know where we are buying the infrastructure from or are we even going to manufacture the cables?
@phunki3ee The same company who made this video; Alcatel Lucent. Buying the fibre is least of the worries. Most of the cost comes from the labour required to lay down the fibre. If the labour is not outsourced overseas, and is kept for Australians to lay, then the money (tax payers money) is going back into our economy.
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 The materials side is major part, the optic fibre should be made here in Australia to keep the money here. Labour im sure will be not be outsourced we have enough cheap labour here.
I have a 3.2Mbit/s connection (of a 8mb/s plan), with 60GB total cap and constantly has problems. My friend is from Sweden, and his family has a 24mb/s connection that doesn't have traffic or connection issues, and no download limit. His plan is the same price as a 100Mbit plan, as an 8Mbit plan (which is the slowest available). 100Mbits is available any builtup area there. It costs around the equivalent of $22 Australian dolars, again, with no cap.
@MTran0708 I didn't even know they have caps that large. What I do know is they shouldn't have the caps to start with, it's of no cost to them to allow users more. At that, users would happily pay more for the same speed if it were unlimited. Australia is one of the few places with caps.
@Freshbott2 Are you on the old plan? Because I don't think the new ones have 60gb... I'm not sure how much you're paying but you might want to check and see whether you can upgrade to the 100 or 200gb for the same cost... I was still on the old plan last month... 1.5mbit 50gb quota @ $100.. total rip off, but I cant complain cause only Telstra offers it in my area..
@MTran0708 Nah I'm not with Telstra, I'm with Westnet, ditched Telstra about five months ago, it's cheaper and more reliable, which is really saying something seeing that Telstra owns 100% of the network in my town. Also Telstra's customer service is so awful it can be compared with Microsoft's.
@MTran0708 Also you should be able to get almost any provider, although your speeds won't be any better, 'cause the provider you use will be using Telstra's equipment.
@GoddyofWar Yeah they're fucking useless. The other day in my town they started installing FTTH, installed the backbone for an entire residential area to the exchange, and then cancelled the whole thing. Some people have been saying it's been suspended. But that's just another way of saying 'It'll get here eventually when the broadband plan is completed in 2015. Rightyo.
@imre1000 ONCE it falls to bits? And people could have realised it decades ago, so I think the dumb an ignorant people who got the tragedy that is Labour into power probably won't realise it ever.
I mean this sounds great, but I surely wasn't the only one who could detect just a little PR spin. I'm sure the labor party put this up on YouTube, leaving out any concerns about their nbn...
Libs were in power for 11 years they should have had us get a network like this when we were in boom times, now we are at least 5 years behind other developed countries.
@ucwepn okay are you actually fucking serious buddy?. now i pay $70 for 300GB of data and a home phone line rental and they now want us to pay $109 for the same amount!!
@ESSALongboarding I pay the same, $70 for 3tb of data and home phone, they are shutting down the copper network when the nbn comes online, hopefully a similar amount of data to what I have now wont be too much more expensive. As more details come to light the worse it gets lol
Right now a new undersea fibre optic cable is being constructed to join Aus Nz and the U.S. which is of 5.21 terabytes a second. Without NBN whats the point :(
Each of the four networks that will be providing the bulk of international connections for Australia is capable of carrying at least a terabit per second of data. The total international capacity in use for the Australian market in 2009 is estimated to be around 300 gigabits per second. Accordingly, total capacity usage could double, then double again, then double again, and then double yet again before the capabilities of those networks was exhausted. It would therefore be difficult to say that
Fibre broadband across the nation is our opportunity to convert our depleting mineral wealth into a replacement that has growth opportunities into the future.
If other countries are not making this courageous move (yet), it could be because they have other pressing obligations like more unemployed people and people who retire too young on excessive benefits (by our standards).
Fibre broadband across the nation is our opportunity to convert our depleting mineral wealth into a replacement that has growth opportunities into the future.
If other countries are not making this courageous move (yet), it could be because they have other pressing obligations like more unemployed people and people who retire too young on excessive benefits (by our standards).
So, we pay for this to be built, then you sell it for double the price to some wealthy person then you enforce legislations for it to be halved to equal out the 'competition' then you buy that half, build it back up and resell it again while you're heavily taxing the other half to force the owner to resell back to you? Oh how this sounds very familiar.
But why go to every house, ma and pa kettle do not need fibre to the house. I think you are you better of replacing the copper from the exchanges to the pillers with fibre and still running copper to the house but still giving householders the option to haul fibre from there piller to there house if they like. Even just replacing the main copper cables between the exchanges and piller with fibre houses are able to achieve speeds of around 100mb/s depending of there distance from the piller.
@88552 Please don't get me wrong, I am all for the NBN, all I am saying is that all households should not be forced to go onto a FTTH network they should have an option, I am sure the monthly line rental will be more expensive then it currently is and people who are only using the phone line for a phone, dial-up or ADSL internet and are happy with this should not be forced to change and pay a premium price for a premium product if they will not be using it.
all you fags need to stop fucking complaining and be happy that 90% of you will have fibre optic very soon. you do know that only sweden, japan and germany are the only countries that have more than 40% of its population using fibre optic. and were gettin 90% of our population to use it. so top fucking complaining and be happy your getting this. and if tony abbot wins he will scrap the nbn so dont vote for him.
Such bullshit. Welcome to the rest of the world Australia. You're only several years too late.
The telco industry needs to be COMPLETELY deregulated in Australia and then open the floodgates to everyone, you'd then see your broadband monthly charge go to about AUD$10 p/m unlimited. Also, the aussie taxpayer wont be lumped with the cost of the rollout.
Europe and Asia are MILES ahead of this technology and prices are astronomically cheaper.
@AeanHD the NBN is a wholesale network whereby each network can buy onto. It's a practical establishment to ensure that unlike the current copper market, each carrier can compete on a level playing field instead of one telco dominating the price structure.
@Melmann95 that's it i am aussy but i do not think we are going to be the first to get it but it is refreshing to hear that they are doing something about the speeds we are getting at the moment ^_^
@HerbLyf The NBN Network is the internet 2.... The NBN network gives the government the ability to determine what content is suitable for the user to access. Say goodbye the internet as you know it. Say hello to censorship.
@HerbLyf But they won't japan has had this for ages, 2/3 of UK has this, some of America has this. The "Australians will lead the world in internet" was just a golden carrot that turned out to be false. The NBN *could* be a good thing if they get their asses into gear. Last I heard the proposed finishing date was like 2018, if that is true and history is anything to go by, it will be close to obsolete.
So even if countries like Korea pretty much already have something like this in place at 1GB average speed and would US get it done in half the time,I like the idea that Australia will be world leaders with the innovation, will point A get to point B is my bottom line question..i have bad habit of listening to people however
Still hearing bollocks about it though, guess i'll just go with "i'll believe it when I see it "mentality, seems 'the way to go" .. as well this censor filter they keep blowing on about, not that that is hard to get over any way..don't look at me like that!
Go on share the facts with me then...tell me everything since you are the enlightenend one!
@DSLDARTH: A photo of some of the first NBN last mile fibre optic cable erected in Tasmania is below. The fibre is planned to be lit up this year NOT 2032 as you incorrectly suggest.
Thats because Tasmania is where everything gets tested first, and im saying that it wont get done till 2032 because the govenment is so slow to do stuff, when they say they will do it on eg 2009 it wont get done till 2012... vandermast9, are you kevin rudd?
@DSLDARTH They never said anything would be done in 2009. They announced in March 2009 that the first towns would be connected and up and running by July 2010 - and they are right on schedule.
@Smallmaxx: The only network that will become obsolete will be Telstra's ageing copper network that is incapable of supplying the population with internet speeds anywhere near fibre optic cable.
@TravvyG Springfield Lakes is apart of the second wave of rollouts, however there is a possibility some of the surrounding suburbs (Forest Lake, Browns Plains and Carole Park) may also get it due to the absolute shit ADSL coverage those suburbs have, but I as a FL citizen am not holding my breath.
This will change the way we deal with internet and other technical things today. The vision is to provide immense growth and cater to demand over next 20 years, since it will be government infrastructure, it will bring in reasonable price to the masses and make Australia one of the world leaders in digital infrastructure... great initiative!!!
Absolutely Awesome. I want this to my home as soon as possible. I pay $60 a month for cable broadband now and its limited and capped and doesn't work as well as it could and my complaints are ignored. Bring this on .. dig up my garden and deliver the connection ... soon ... please !
@TheFearlessbro: The cost will be the same as FTTH in equivalent greenfields areas now, ie $60 per month for a 25Mbps link, with your choice of internet service provider that guarantees effective competition between retail providers for incremental pricing reductions for users over time.
Australians will gain nothing from this system but 4 years of poor service followed by censored and capped internet. Why don't they focus on initiatives like improving public health care, education, transport and infrastructure before trying to fix an unbroken private sector utility at exorbitant cost to the tax payers?
The same fibre laid today will still be used in 100 years, except the technology of the laser driving equipment will shift access speeds from 100Mbps, to 1Gbps, to 10Gbps and even 100Gbps. Sure, NBN will be used to support existing applications, but it will eventually support new applications we haven't yet conceived, many of which will greatly assist improving public health care, education, and transport (by taking cars off the road). This is a fantastic investment in public infrastructure!
@boldziga They need to pump more money into it and finish it quicker, if it isn't done in a few years their is a great risk f the technology being obsolete before it even finishes.
One thing I don't understand though is how they claim it will make Australia lead the world, in regards to internet. Which is nothing short of a load of shit, most of Japan already has this technology and so does 2/3 of the UK. America also has this in some places, plus google is rolling it out all round America.
@cameron20020 Excuse me while I never believe a word anyone associated with Telstra has to say. The company you used to work with has screwed over Australians for far too long.
@RubbishTV I think it is a much faster cable but their only gonna give us residents 100Mbits and the Businesses and schools will get much faster connections but iver way Australia really needs this cause are current network will proberly be useless in the next 10 years cause Copper is just old and slow
Bout time us Aussie get a network upgrade cause I think we wouldn't survive any longer on this old shitty one and then I can also tell Telstra to stick it and have fast Internet with logically thinking no data caps only speed ones. I would pay $40/month for 40Mbit DL and 40Mbit UL with no Data caps ^_^
The UK standard is 100Mbs for approximate AU$30.00/month with no data charge/cap. By the time we get it installed, it will be out of date. They need to be aiming for 1Tbs to meet the promises made in this video.
Bout time us Aussie get a network upgrade cause I think we wouldn't survive any longer on this old shitty one and then I can also tell Telstra to stick it and have fast Internet with logically thinking no data caps only speed ones. I would pay $40/month for 40Mbit DL and 40Mbit UL with no Data caps ^_^
Why do we need National Broadband Network?? So some fucker can make a shit load of money. Why are they telling us like we,re going to have an opinion on the outcome. You,re getting it whether you want it or not and paying for it.
The internet has changed our whole lives in the last decade. Of course we need a NBN that will be govt regulated and designed to be best - and last for a long time. It's just too important not to be done properly. Have people not noticed how in the last ten years we have experienced a revolution in digital communications? I think Australia is a world leader in making a commitment to securing our digital future and boosting the economy. You must be nuts to think that's a bad idea.
Though it is fraudulent on some claims this may be. Removing Telstra's monopoly is a very good thing. i have recently tried to get my naked adsl connected... i found out i had to have a 'ACTIVE TELSTRA LINE'. Before i could convert to Naked Dsl. so i have to pay telstra money to connect then pay to disconnect!!! wtf
Yeah, right. Great use of taxpayer dollars here Conroy. I can't count the number of delays that have emerged in this project already and you facetiously bring out this piece of bullshit to paper over serious policy concerns.
First it was FTTN, now FTTP. The tender process was bullshit and now we're stuck with the GOVERNMENT of all organisations rolling out this service the essential nature of which in the household of a working family is suspect at best.
It is a good thing, if only Telstra, the opposition and shareholders wouldn't try to resist so much (I'd rather the majority benefit then the minority). I'm also disgusted by the amount of FUD people spread about the NBN, we won't see plans like japan or America. But we will get more data and speed for similar prices, as I imagine that more international links would be built once companies see demand (we're starting to see competition in that area now because of the PIPE network cable).
Scrap Telstra, they are a useless piece of shit, but sadly I can't ever see this happening. When the next government gets in it'll most likely scrap this scheme, and the Rudd government despite its good intensions has been fairly incompetant so far
A load of marketing to suck people into supporting the government giving billions of dollars of taxpayers money to the company that made this film.
There are contradictions in just this film itself, on one hand, they claim that the various technologies don't talk to each other very well, but on the other hand, they claim that people out of the FTTP range, will use these same technologies. Either they work or they don't, but stop trying to mislead the Australian public by having it both ways.
Woah. That's just amazing guys - Either the Government should run this, or Alcatel-Lucent should. It's really an issue of the disinformation campaign that's causing a negative aura around the NBN at the moment.
Great Vid - This should be shown on TV in the 6:00 - 6:30 timeslot simultaneously on all channels with an endorsement from the government. There are so many idiots that know nothing of the NBN.
I have no faith in this thing actually increasing the value of internet plans for the average Australian, sure this will increase their speed but whats the point of all that extra network ability if we cannot use it because of low amounts of data allowance in our internet plans.
The NBN does not take control over the international connection, and that is the biggest factor governing such prices. I noticed in another post on YouTube that you called people without all the facts 'idiots', does that mean you now qualify as one under your own standards?
I suggest you research it more, instead of believing everything that Labour and Alcatel spoonfeed you.
I really hope that you are right but the corporations are still making a lot of money off the current pricing scheme so i doubt that they will change unless the government forces them.
Telstra as it stands is in an extremely anti-competitive position, even if people don't fully realize it. Telstra is one of our major clients, and a breakup of their companies would definitely impact our business, but I can honestly say the potential, if done right, is enormous. I don't think many people realize just how powerful a company that can take profits from one sector, to throw at another sector, until all competition dries up, really is.
Waste of money
Welshnotwelch 3 months ago
@Welshnotwelch Not a waste of money.
ikt123 1 month ago
Apparently you can get 1 Megabit per second -_- Haven't shown me evidence...
MrZxcvbnmn 3 months ago
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all talk no fucking action..ill believe it when i see it.
CallOfSpooge 4 months ago
Patch work of systems that don't talk to each other well? Wow it's amazing we have any internet at all - who do we blame for that Alcatel Lucent? Idealogical.
Fibre for everyone would be great - we could all link hands and sing kumbaya. And we will acheive things we havn't even though of yet - yer imagine social networking on the NBN - it'll be... er... the same.
Fibre is great, but not affordable. Why doesn't the government pay for everyone to have an F1 in their driveway?
alivateRocket 4 months ago
@alivateRocket "And we will acheive things we havn't even though of yet - yer imagine social networking on the NBN - it'll be... er... the same."
So you say that we'll achieve things we haven't thought of yet then immediately mention something already thought of. Are you mentally retarded or do you just come across that way?
ikt123 1 month ago
A complete and total scam , as a former Electronics Technichian in the Royal Australian Navy this system/plan will do nothing. It will however allow the goverment to monitor and potentionally ban/ restrict acces to internet sites and what information Australians can access. I have been playing online computer games against people from all over the world for years and never had a speed connection problem.
Rommeljnr 5 months ago
@Rommeljnr Aus government already tried to restrict access to websites, it didn't end well for them, anonymous had there say
ShuffleNate 5 months ago
i love the road metaphor, simply because it doesn't work. their same road metaphor shows the problem- the NBN is a 10 lane street to every house, as opposed to the (logical) system of highways and main roads
stinkasectomy 6 months ago
@stinkasectomy no it isn't, learn the technology and deployment methods before commenting, otherwise i can view DSL as a 30+ lane road to each house.
itsmydamnation 6 months ago
This video wasn't very informative
TheHappyKamper 6 months ago
@TheHappyKamper It's a marketing video from one of the potential suppliers who stands to gain a lot from the rollout of the NBN. It's also 2 years old - back when the NBN in it's current form was pretty new and not yet fully defined. It does do a credible job of explaining what the idea behind the NBN is, though it doesn't address the FUD which is currently being spread about - although in all fairness, the campaign against the NBN hadn't really started when this was first released.
rjch0173 6 months ago
i was typeing random stuff and this looked funny so i clicked it XD
ArcadePreHackZzZz 8 months ago
When was the ast time you heard the words "Superhighway"? That's so 90's!
The NBN was on 4 Corners and it was so infuriating. People have such short-sighted vision of the future.
Was the prerequisite for the voice-over person "Let's get a guy with a slightly husky male voice that is used on every telecommunication ad"?
MADMANx511 10 months ago
Im ok with my internet now, but it would be nice to be able to download big files faster, like steam games
D0OMZDAYZ 11 months ago
NBN is a total joke, it gives the Goverment power to monitor and filter internet data. Faster internet yes, but it's at a cost, can't watch or view anything they don't want you to see. Much like China. Companys like Optus and Telstra hae been getting network tax breaks for many years, then they turn around and say they can't afford to put down new cables, so the Goverment steps in and uses tax dollars to do what Optus and Telstra should have done with the the profts, sad day for Australia.
UHAX101 11 months ago
@UHAX101 I dont think that the government will filter and watch everything, look a telstra they were once own by the gov and now they are just some stupid greedy telecom company now they might just sell NBNco later on, and if i recall they not going to be bringing in the ISP Filtering anymore
jafisher1991 10 months ago
@jafisher1991 Laws to filter (restrict) and monitor data in Australia are already being passed. Live trials were started in 2008, google 'Internet censorship in Australia' for more information.
UHAX101 10 months ago
@UHAX101 The filter's been scrapped. The Government just isn't making it obvious so they don't have yet another backflip to deal with in the public eye. Wonder why you've heard nothing about it from any media source for, say, the past 6 months?
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
I dont even have adsl2+ damn Telstra put me on a RIM.
golmatolsi 1 year ago
@golmatolsi same here. they should focus on the slowest areas first and put it on ther. 169kb/s mac downlaod speed, sucks
Camster3 11 months ago
@golmatolsi i have ADSL2+ and it's still not fast but I'm with TPG i get 12-15MB download speed and 1 MB upload speed when i see America get 1-10GB download & upload speeds. witch is BULL SHIT for Australia
Combine999 10 months ago
@Combine999 the USA is only just getting 1Gbit in most states its still the same as us, Google is doing a trial in Kansas City later this year to see if 1gbit is possible, Australia will always be behind everyone else
jafisher1991 10 months ago
@jafisher1991 The NBN will be ready for those speeds as soon as it's rolled out. NBNCo need only make the decision to make those speeds possible.
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
impossible to forget someone i have to see but the N remains
MattyMattThing 1 year ago
Can't believe people actually fall for this either.
WAKE UP! WAKE UP!
ChristoMafesto 1 year ago
What a bad idea this is.
Get ready to pay for this for years fellow Aussies in the name of increasing GDP the very same GDP and monetary system that keeps you enslaved on a daily basis!
Say no.
ChristoMafesto 1 year ago
Maybe if we could get the mining industry and the banks to pay some TAX we could actually afford to do this. Otherwise.. tell 'em they're dreaming! XD
Telstra. Just say NO!
duffland09 1 year ago
Broadband in australia is a rip off.. The best broadband is TPG
ModernAsians 1 year ago
@ModernAsians Enjoy your fucked up networks in favor of saving a few dollars.
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
government propaganda at its best :D, what a joke this thing will be
elconrad2 1 year ago
@elconrad2
agreed.
ChristoMafesto 1 year ago
Yes great idea, now rural areas can use internet high speed instead of going to hospitals and doctors and waiting years, they can now perform their own operations at home via internet instructions in real time.
jazzysnaps 1 year ago
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY PUT UP OUR ELECTRICITY PRICES IN PREPERATION OF THE NBN, ONCE THE NBN IS IN WE ARE GOING TO USE IT MORE BECAUSE WE CAN WHICH WILL DRIVE OUR ELECTRICITY UP! MILKING US BLIND!
phunki3ee 1 year ago
@phunki3ee That makes no sense. If speeds are faster, less time is spent doing whatever you need to do; hence less power is consumed.
OMFGTHISSOSUX2 1 year ago
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 But its already fast..I dont need it to be faster its fine.. Like everything in this world if its more available to you then you use it more, then its overconsumed . Australia is the 3rd highest paying country for its internet and our speed rank 54th slowest in the world... I'll only agree with the NBN if we pay next to nothing to use it..
phunki3ee 1 year ago
@phunki3ee Not meaning to sound rude or anything, but you do know how xDSL services work right? (Speed over distance) Also, the NBN isn't about just broadband, pricing does come into play - where Telstra's monopoly is dissolved and competition can introduce lower prices.
OMFGTHISSOSUX2 1 year ago
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 Im sure xDSL is faster than ADSL... at the end of the day we dont need it.. I'd rather our gov spend the money on improving our roads... also with competition does lower prices, but we will still pay through the roof compared to other countries..
phunki3ee 1 year ago
@phunki3ee ...
xDSL is just DSL services...the x is the classification variable; there is no such thing as 'xDSL'. Anyway, forget that part - too long to explain. If you want to talk money, let's talk money. The cost of the NBN is less than 1% of the National Budget; more money is already being spent on roads (even roads that YOU don't use). Prices will lower, part of the high pricing scheme in Australia in the moment is due to maintenance of the copper (Fibre does not degrade/oxidize).
OMFGTHISSOSUX2 1 year ago
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 ok fair enough, high side NBN will create jobs...another thing would you know where we are buying the infrastructure from or are we even going to manufacture the cables?
phunki3ee 1 year ago
@phunki3ee The same company who made this video; Alcatel Lucent. Buying the fibre is least of the worries. Most of the cost comes from the labour required to lay down the fibre. If the labour is not outsourced overseas, and is kept for Australians to lay, then the money (tax payers money) is going back into our economy.
OMFGTHISSOSUX2 1 year ago
@OMFGTHISSOSUX2 The materials side is major part, the optic fibre should be made here in Australia to keep the money here. Labour im sure will be not be outsourced we have enough cheap labour here.
phunki3ee 1 year ago
Broadband in Australia refers to a woman's knicker elastic.
aaronobst0140 1 year ago
Should be direct fiber not this 32 house split.
bigpoppa1234 1 year ago
@bigpoppa1234 it is now, its FTTP (fibre to the premises) unless u live in a unit building :(
jameswhatsit 1 year ago
I have a 3.2Mbit/s connection (of a 8mb/s plan), with 60GB total cap and constantly has problems. My friend is from Sweden, and his family has a 24mb/s connection that doesn't have traffic or connection issues, and no download limit. His plan is the same price as a 100Mbit plan, as an 8Mbit plan (which is the slowest available). 100Mbits is available any builtup area there. It costs around the equivalent of $22 Australian dolars, again, with no cap.
Thank you, Telstra...
Freshbott2 1 year ago
@Freshbott2 I only get 2.5Mbit/s 200gb around $90pm bigpond.
MTran0708 1 year ago
@MTran0708 I didn't even know they have caps that large. What I do know is they shouldn't have the caps to start with, it's of no cost to them to allow users more. At that, users would happily pay more for the same speed if it were unlimited. Australia is one of the few places with caps.
Freshbott2 1 year ago
@Freshbott2 Are you on the old plan? Because I don't think the new ones have 60gb... I'm not sure how much you're paying but you might want to check and see whether you can upgrade to the 100 or 200gb for the same cost... I was still on the old plan last month... 1.5mbit 50gb quota @ $100.. total rip off, but I cant complain cause only Telstra offers it in my area..
MTran0708 1 year ago
@MTran0708 Nah I'm not with Telstra, I'm with Westnet, ditched Telstra about five months ago, it's cheaper and more reliable, which is really saying something seeing that Telstra owns 100% of the network in my town. Also Telstra's customer service is so awful it can be compared with Microsoft's.
Freshbott2 1 year ago
@MTran0708 Also you should be able to get almost any provider, although your speeds won't be any better, 'cause the provider you use will be using Telstra's equipment.
Freshbott2 1 year ago
@Freshbott2 Are you surprised? Telstra has only ever been out for one thing since they were sold: Themselves.
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
@GoddyofWar Yeah they're fucking useless. The other day in my town they started installing FTTH, installed the backbone for an entire residential area to the exchange, and then cancelled the whole thing. Some people have been saying it's been suspended. But that's just another way of saying 'It'll get here eventually when the broadband plan is completed in 2015. Rightyo.
Freshbott2 9 months ago
Government broadband... Gee I can't wait to call them for tech support.
1 good thing that might come out of this is that Australians will finally realise how useless Labor is, once the NBN falls to bits.
imre1000 1 year ago
@imre1000 ONCE it falls to bits? And people could have realised it decades ago, so I think the dumb an ignorant people who got the tragedy that is Labour into power probably won't realise it ever.
Freshbott2 1 year ago
@Freshbott2, I can only hope you are wrong, even though history is on your side...
imre1000 1 year ago
this youtube video took 10 minutes to buffer, hurrah
godommot 1 year ago 6
I mean this sounds great, but I surely wasn't the only one who could detect just a little PR spin. I'm sure the labor party put this up on YouTube, leaving out any concerns about their nbn...
Mortz88 1 year ago
Libs were in power for 11 years they should have had us get a network like this when we were in boom times, now we are at least 5 years behind other developed countries.
ucwepn 1 year ago 4
@ucwepn okay are you actually fucking serious buddy?. now i pay $70 for 300GB of data and a home phone line rental and they now want us to pay $109 for the same amount!!
ESSALongboarding 3 months ago
@ESSALongboarding I pay the same, $70 for 3tb of data and home phone, they are shutting down the copper network when the nbn comes online, hopefully a similar amount of data to what I have now wont be too much more expensive. As more details come to light the worse it gets lol
ucwepn 3 months ago
@ucwepn $70 for 3tb of data? Why don't I believe you.
ikt123 1 month ago
@ESSALongboarding $69.95 300GB = Internode's current NBN plans. includes home phone as well. What were you saying?
ikt123 1 month ago
Right now a new undersea fibre optic cable is being constructed to join Aus Nz and the U.S. which is of 5.21 terabytes a second. Without NBN whats the point :(
ucwepn 1 year ago 2
international networks are a capacity bottleneck in the Australian market.
ucwepn 1 year ago
Each of the four networks that will be providing the bulk of international connections for Australia is capable of carrying at least a terabit per second of data. The total international capacity in use for the Australian market in 2009 is estimated to be around 300 gigabits per second. Accordingly, total capacity usage could double, then double again, then double again, and then double yet again before the capabilities of those networks was exhausted. It would therefore be difficult to say that
ucwepn 1 year ago
Hopefully all the old bigots and right-wing voters don't fuck it up for the rest of us
Largegray 1 year ago 4
This video reminds me of that DNA video from Jurassic Park :)
aaricus 1 year ago
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Fibre broadband across the nation is our opportunity to convert our depleting mineral wealth into a replacement that has growth opportunities into the future.
If other countries are not making this courageous move (yet), it could be because they have other pressing obligations like more unemployed people and people who retire too young on excessive benefits (by our standards).
listohan 1 year ago
Fibre broadband across the nation is our opportunity to convert our depleting mineral wealth into a replacement that has growth opportunities into the future.
If other countries are not making this courageous move (yet), it could be because they have other pressing obligations like more unemployed people and people who retire too young on excessive benefits (by our standards).
listohan 1 year ago
So, we pay for this to be built, then you sell it for double the price to some wealthy person then you enforce legislations for it to be halved to equal out the 'competition' then you buy that half, build it back up and resell it again while you're heavily taxing the other half to force the owner to resell back to you? Oh how this sounds very familiar.
Phuxx0r 1 year ago
Im predicting that labor will say 2012, Then 2013, then 2015 then 2020 then 2031
Demoist 1 year ago
@Demoist When did they say 2012? or 2013? 2015?
Jesusability 1 year ago
But why go to every house, ma and pa kettle do not need fibre to the house. I think you are you better of replacing the copper from the exchanges to the pillers with fibre and still running copper to the house but still giving householders the option to haul fibre from there piller to there house if they like. Even just replacing the main copper cables between the exchanges and piller with fibre houses are able to achieve speeds of around 100mb/s depending of there distance from the piller.
narque76 1 year ago
@narque76 Yeah, and ma and pa don't need a tap in their house. They can go draw water at the town well. It works just as well.
88552 1 year ago
@88552 Please don't get me wrong, I am all for the NBN, all I am saying is that all households should not be forced to go onto a FTTH network they should have an option, I am sure the monthly line rental will be more expensive then it currently is and people who are only using the phone line for a phone, dial-up or ADSL internet and are happy with this should not be forced to change and pay a premium price for a premium product if they will not be using it.
narque76 1 year ago
Tony abott is a dud his new plan for the NBN network is a steaming pile of shite
That little john howard clone wants us to use carrier pidgeons until 2016.
I expect nothing else from this typical liberal vermin...
Bunyipz 1 year ago 9
all you fags need to stop fucking complaining and be happy that 90% of you will have fibre optic very soon. you do know that only sweden, japan and germany are the only countries that have more than 40% of its population using fibre optic. and were gettin 90% of our population to use it. so top fucking complaining and be happy your getting this. and if tony abbot wins he will scrap the nbn so dont vote for him.
ShiftyC3nt 1 year ago 5
Such bullshit. Welcome to the rest of the world Australia. You're only several years too late.
The telco industry needs to be COMPLETELY deregulated in Australia and then open the floodgates to everyone, you'd then see your broadband monthly charge go to about AUD$10 p/m unlimited. Also, the aussie taxpayer wont be lumped with the cost of the rollout.
Europe and Asia are MILES ahead of this technology and prices are astronomically cheaper.
macboyau 1 year ago
uh.. im confused. is NBN like a company (such as telstra, optus)? or like.. every company (telstra,optus) gets optic fibre cables?
AeanHD 1 year ago
@AeanHD the NBN is a wholesale network whereby each network can buy onto. It's a practical establishment to ensure that unlike the current copper market, each carrier can compete on a level playing field instead of one telco dominating the price structure.
TJNorton1 1 year ago 3
..four legs good, two legs baaad.
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djgcorporation 1 year ago
This needs to happen ASAP. Its about time that Australia leads the world in something.
HerbLyf 1 year ago 34
@HerbLyf
Other countries have had this for years. It would be more correct to say: "It's about time Australia started catching up with rest of the world".
Melmann95 1 year ago
@Melmann95 that's it i am aussy but i do not think we are going to be the first to get it but it is refreshing to hear that they are doing something about the speeds we are getting at the moment ^_^
nathanbaker84 1 year ago
@HerbLyf The NBN Network is the internet 2.... The NBN network gives the government the ability to determine what content is suitable for the user to access. Say goodbye the internet as you know it. Say hello to censorship.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
edstar83 1 year ago
@HerbLyf But they won't japan has had this for ages, 2/3 of UK has this, some of America has this. The "Australians will lead the world in internet" was just a golden carrot that turned out to be false. The NBN *could* be a good thing if they get their asses into gear. Last I heard the proposed finishing date was like 2018, if that is true and history is anything to go by, it will be close to obsolete.
vikeyev1 1 year ago
lol we will still be miles behind countries like japan and america even after this
NextGenRev 11 months ago
@NextGenRev
no we won't. average download speed in the USA is something like 5Mbps... i'm getting 10-15 at home right now!
NBN promises something around 100Mbps (ideally)
This will put us ahead of even south korea who currently leads with 20Mbps reported speeds.
hittman1412 10 months ago
@hittman1412 are you serious? i must be on a really shit internet plan then.
NextGenRev 10 months ago
@HerbLyf australia would still be behind you dumbfuck
hoffmannnful 5 months ago
So even if countries like Korea pretty much already have something like this in place at 1GB average speed and would US get it done in half the time,I like the idea that Australia will be world leaders with the innovation, will point A get to point B is my bottom line question..i have bad habit of listening to people however
Smallmaxx 1 year ago
Still hearing bollocks about it though, guess i'll just go with "i'll believe it when I see it "mentality, seems 'the way to go" .. as well this censor filter they keep blowing on about, not that that is hard to get over any way..don't look at me like that!
Go on share the facts with me then...tell me everything since you are the enlightenend one!
Smallmaxx 1 year ago
Still, We won't get it till around... 2032... /sad face
DSLDARTH 1 year ago
@DSLDARTH: A photo of some of the first NBN last mile fibre optic cable erected in Tasmania is below. The fibre is planned to be lit up this year NOT 2032 as you incorrectly suggest.
vandermast9 1 year ago
Thats because Tasmania is where everything gets tested first, and im saying that it wont get done till 2032 because the govenment is so slow to do stuff, when they say they will do it on eg 2009 it wont get done till 2012... vandermast9, are you kevin rudd?
DSLDARTH 1 year ago
@DSLDARTH They never said anything would be done in 2009. They announced in March 2009 that the first towns would be connected and up and running by July 2010 - and they are right on schedule.
Chuqau 1 year ago
Rumour is that this network will be obsolete by the time its' completed!
Smallmaxx 1 year ago
@Smallmaxx: The only network that will become obsolete will be Telstra's ageing copper network that is incapable of supplying the population with internet speeds anywhere near fibre optic cable.
vandermast9 1 year ago
I wish the USA would implement this...
Bozewani 2 years ago
WHY DIDNT WE GET THIS 5 YEARS AGO????
OH! I just remembered, John Howard......
TheFearlessbro 2 years ago 5
Any news on when this will hit Queensland (mainly South East and Darling downs areas?)
TravvyG 2 years ago
@TravvyG Springfield Lakes is apart of the second wave of rollouts, however there is a possibility some of the surrounding suburbs (Forest Lake, Browns Plains and Carole Park) may also get it due to the absolute shit ADSL coverage those suburbs have, but I as a FL citizen am not holding my breath.
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
anyone have any idea when this is coming to adelaide? in fact, anyone have a site which shows where they are working now and who gets it next?
gasman4011 2 years ago
0% information, 100% marketing.
jmpeax 2 years ago
This will change the way we deal with internet and other technical things today. The vision is to provide immense growth and cater to demand over next 20 years, since it will be government infrastructure, it will bring in reasonable price to the masses and make Australia one of the world leaders in digital infrastructure... great initiative!!!
divchhat 2 years ago 5
EPIC WIN amrite ?
pigeonism 2 years ago
this will be the best thing but it better not have data limitation i pay $70 for 40gb a month and thats not much
rightstyle668 2 years ago 2
Absolutely Awesome. I want this to my home as soon as possible. I pay $60 a month for cable broadband now and its limited and capped and doesn't work as well as it could and my complaints are ignored. Bring this on .. dig up my garden and deliver the connection ... soon ... please !
SmithsLakeAustralia 2 years ago 3
p2p will go flying up.
porn downloads up 55555555555555555%
if this network happens it better be $50 or so and unlimited downloads or there is no point to it
2009benma 2 years ago
@2009benma Expect like 90$ for something like 500kb/s download speed, unlimited data.
Hell I pay 90$ now for 80kb/s - 150kb/s, 100gb data allowance. See the massive gayness of Aussie internet here?
TheFearlessbro 2 years ago
@TheFearlessbro: The cost will be the same as FTTH in equivalent greenfields areas now, ie $60 per month for a 25Mbps link, with your choice of internet service provider that guarantees effective competition between retail providers for incremental pricing reductions for users over time.
vandermast9 1 year ago
My only criticism is why did they call it NBN. People are just going to think it has something to do with NBN television.
celshader 2 years ago
Alcatel sponsor this ad because they want sell equipment to oz gov on this nbn deal.
alcatel just want oz biz, no really care oz life.
this ad is misleading and rubish
oz people will pay too much to get too little.
oz shall spend this tax money on health, education...
iaminaustralia 2 years ago
@iaminaustralia English language, must learn better
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
when is this happening i want it now
deathproof001 2 years ago
about time lol :D
sneakyboxx 2 years ago
sigh, more pandering to the masses.
Australians will gain nothing from this system but 4 years of poor service followed by censored and capped internet. Why don't they focus on initiatives like improving public health care, education, transport and infrastructure before trying to fix an unbroken private sector utility at exorbitant cost to the tax payers?
ottopotomas 2 years ago
The same fibre laid today will still be used in 100 years, except the technology of the laser driving equipment will shift access speeds from 100Mbps, to 1Gbps, to 10Gbps and even 100Gbps. Sure, NBN will be used to support existing applications, but it will eventually support new applications we haven't yet conceived, many of which will greatly assist improving public health care, education, and transport (by taking cars off the road). This is a fantastic investment in public infrastructure!
crwebby 2 years ago 21
@crwebby word, because fibre is just carrying light, your only limit to speed is how many bits you can encode into a beam.
Zeptis1337 1 year ago
@Zeptis1337
Well, the wavelengths of the light start affecting it eventually. So there is a limit to the speed, but it's incredibly high.
Mokey117 1 year ago
@crwebby orly, and also out tax dollars are also going to boob jobs in the aussie navy.
this technology will be very old before its finished
boldziga 1 year ago
@boldziga They need to pump more money into it and finish it quicker, if it isn't done in a few years their is a great risk f the technology being obsolete before it even finishes.
One thing I don't understand though is how they claim it will make Australia lead the world, in regards to internet. Which is nothing short of a load of shit, most of Japan already has this technology and so does 2/3 of the UK. America also has this in some places, plus google is rolling it out all round America.
vikeyev1 1 year ago
@vikeyev1 i totally agree with you
boldziga 1 year ago
@crwebby no its not
boldziga 1 year ago
@boldziga Care to enlighten us why not?
xavieraash 1 year ago
@crwebby
fibre optic cables simply dont last that long.
how I know this?
I used to work within the telstra fibre optic team. normal lifespan of them is 15-20 years
cameron20020 10 months ago
@cameron20020 Excuse me while I never believe a word anyone associated with Telstra has to say. The company you used to work with has screwed over Australians for far too long.
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
"Think of the networks like a road system."
Last time I checked roads don't tell us we can go at 100km an hour then decide we've been driving too much and change it to 5km an hour.
brominer 2 years ago
couldn't have said it better.
there are many other countries that have unlimited internet from the same price we're getting 25gigs a month.
limits D;
iruruu 2 years ago
bahaha! You speak truth.
jpflorez 2 years ago
@RubbishTV I think it is a much faster cable but their only gonna give us residents 100Mbits and the Businesses and schools will get much faster connections but iver way Australia really needs this cause are current network will proberly be useless in the next 10 years cause Copper is just old and slow
TravvyG 2 years ago
Bout time us Aussie get a network upgrade cause I think we wouldn't survive any longer on this old shitty one and then I can also tell Telstra to stick it and have fast Internet with logically thinking no data caps only speed ones. I would pay $40/month for 40Mbit DL and 40Mbit UL with no Data caps ^_^
TravvyG 2 years ago
The UK standard is 100Mbs for approximate AU$30.00/month with no data charge/cap. By the time we get it installed, it will be out of date. They need to be aiming for 1Tbs to meet the promises made in this video.
RubbishTV 2 years ago
Bout time us Aussie get a network upgrade cause I think we wouldn't survive any longer on this old shitty one and then I can also tell Telstra to stick it and have fast Internet with logically thinking no data caps only speed ones. I would pay $40/month for 40Mbit DL and 40Mbit UL with no Data caps ^_^
TravvyG 2 years ago
i want better internet too.
maKemilKshaKecaKe 2 years ago
What's the point of faster fucking internet when we have shit plans with shit caps like 30-60gigs or shit 200gig plans with shit offpeak times.
So we are just going to get capped faster. We need actual and REAL unlimited download plans like Europe and American has.
sparda700 2 years ago 2
meh, itl be slowed down by krudds planned great firewall / govt internet censorship, pity.
raztaz69 2 years ago 3
Why do we need National Broadband Network?? So some fucker can make a shit load of money. Why are they telling us like we,re going to have an opinion on the outcome. You,re getting it whether you want it or not and paying for it.
beefjerky3 2 years ago
Why can't we all have high speed wireless? Would save money on cable!!
natalie272 2 years ago
cause wireless sucks?
shitty speeds.
Unit508 2 years ago 2
nice the future is yet to come :)
sneakyboxx 2 years ago
The internet has changed our whole lives in the last decade. Of course we need a NBN that will be govt regulated and designed to be best - and last for a long time. It's just too important not to be done properly. Have people not noticed how in the last ten years we have experienced a revolution in digital communications? I think Australia is a world leader in making a commitment to securing our digital future and boosting the economy. You must be nuts to think that's a bad idea.
djselfishclint 2 years ago 3
Though it is fraudulent on some claims this may be. Removing Telstra's monopoly is a very good thing. i have recently tried to get my naked adsl connected... i found out i had to have a 'ACTIVE TELSTRA LINE'. Before i could convert to Naked Dsl. so i have to pay telstra money to connect then pay to disconnect!!! wtf
azeroth48 2 years ago 3
Yeah, right. Great use of taxpayer dollars here Conroy. I can't count the number of delays that have emerged in this project already and you facetiously bring out this piece of bullshit to paper over serious policy concerns.
First it was FTTN, now FTTP. The tender process was bullshit and now we're stuck with the GOVERNMENT of all organisations rolling out this service the essential nature of which in the household of a working family is suspect at best.
blmgod 2 years ago
@blmgod Blame those who need to be blamed for the delays, and that mob starts with a capital T.
GoddyofWar 9 months ago
It is a good thing, if only Telstra, the opposition and shareholders wouldn't try to resist so much (I'd rather the majority benefit then the minority). I'm also disgusted by the amount of FUD people spread about the NBN, we won't see plans like japan or America. But we will get more data and speed for similar prices, as I imagine that more international links would be built once companies see demand (we're starting to see competition in that area now because of the PIPE network cable).
FFFanatic 2 years ago
Scrap Telstra, they are a useless piece of shit, but sadly I can't ever see this happening. When the next government gets in it'll most likely scrap this scheme, and the Rudd government despite its good intensions has been fairly incompetant so far
Jvader88 2 years ago 4
Awesome clip!
Certainly gets the message across nice and simple, if only the politiitans stalling the progress would have a watch.
Some parts of this clip cracked me up, such as a riding a rocket powered dinosaur.....classic!
Well done Alcatel-Lucent
JonBOY26 2 years ago
A load of marketing to suck people into supporting the government giving billions of dollars of taxpayers money to the company that made this film.
There are contradictions in just this film itself, on one hand, they claim that the various technologies don't talk to each other very well, but on the other hand, they claim that people out of the FTTP range, will use these same technologies. Either they work or they don't, but stop trying to mislead the Australian public by having it both ways.
MichaelJenkinson 2 years ago
holographic technology? what holographic technology?
darbs32 2 years ago
Fantastic Video. Bring on the NBN. Whooa
danielmcmahon1 2 years ago
Woah. That's just amazing guys - Either the Government should run this, or Alcatel-Lucent should. It's really an issue of the disinformation campaign that's causing a negative aura around the NBN at the moment.
Filmshake 2 years ago
Great Vid - This should be shown on TV in the 6:00 - 6:30 timeslot simultaneously on all channels with an endorsement from the government. There are so many idiots that know nothing of the NBN.
Manderif 2 years ago 2
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odst121 2 years ago
I have no faith in this thing actually increasing the value of internet plans for the average Australian, sure this will increase their speed but whats the point of all that extra network ability if we cannot use it because of low amounts of data allowance in our internet plans.
odst121 2 years ago
That will change. A new pricing structure similar to the US would be implememnted - you only pay for the speed of your connection, not the quota.
Manderif 2 years ago
The NBN does not take control over the international connection, and that is the biggest factor governing such prices. I noticed in another post on YouTube that you called people without all the facts 'idiots', does that mean you now qualify as one under your own standards?
I suggest you research it more, instead of believing everything that Labour and Alcatel spoonfeed you.
MichaelJenkinson 2 years ago
I really hope that you are right but the corporations are still making a lot of money off the current pricing scheme so i doubt that they will change unless the government forces them.
odst121 2 years ago
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No higher taxes for NBN! No socialist break-up of Telstra!
noBailOut4U 2 years ago
Telstra as it stands is in an extremely anti-competitive position, even if people don't fully realize it. Telstra is one of our major clients, and a breakup of their companies would definitely impact our business, but I can honestly say the potential, if done right, is enormous. I don't think many people realize just how powerful a company that can take profits from one sector, to throw at another sector, until all competition dries up, really is.
alluran 2 years ago
Great Video
tony0410 2 years ago