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Was there really an orc named Gothmog in Tolkien's book? There was balrog named Gothmog.

67nairb 9 months ago

@67nairb

I think Jackson made up the Gothmog in the films. But yeah you're right Gothmog was lord of the Balrog's

Agnes135 5 months ago

@Agnes135 Gothmog however was not the same Balrog who did battle with Gandalf on the Bridge of Khaza-dum.

67nairb 5 months ago

@67nairb

I know, Gothmog was killed many centuries before the Lord of the Rings even took place.

Agnes135 5 months ago

@Agnes135 I know that. Perhaps he was the father of all the Balrogs.

67nairb 5 months ago

@67nairb There was a short mention of Gothmog in relation to the battle of Osgiliath I think.

tvpnbb 5 months ago

@tvpnbb So he had no participation in the Battle of Pelannor Fields?

67nairb 5 months ago

@67nairb Maybe he did, Tolkien did not mention him in that context, but he did not state that he did not participate. He was in any case mentioned just once.

tvpnbb 5 months ago

@tvpnbb Well even if he didn't participate it doesn't matter. Gothmog did a great job in the RETURN OF THE KING. Many dyed-in-the-wool LOTR fans though criticized Peter Jackson for straying too far from Tolkien's book.

67nairb 5 months ago

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md991free 11 months ago

HAHAHAHAH x'D

greatlotrfan 1 year ago

and Obama is Grishnakh....but he thinks he's Sauron

theeasybeats 2 years ago

QUE BOSTA MAIS RALADA!!!!!!!

helmmaodemartelo 2 years ago

hes not fucking gothmog

golfisgreat123 2 years ago

GOTHMOG was the name for the lord of the Balrogs, yes, but it ws also a name of the orc-like-creature, his title was: Lieutenant of Morgul

Saromin1 2 years ago

@Saromin1 I didnt know that. So in the book was there a lot of balrogs?

nauticabinx 2 years ago

no, not in LOTR... but orriginally, yes, there was. at the beggining of Arda (The world where Middle-Earth is) there was trillions of these creatures roaming the world, and then the Oceans came and stuff like that... but the Balrog for LOTR hid in Moria to suvive.

Saromin1 2 years ago

@Saromin1 O ok that makes sense. The thing that I didnt understand is how they were killed. But I get it now thanks.

nauticabinx 2 years ago

@Saromin1 I have another question, what happened to the rest of orcs at the end of return of the king. I even watched the extended version and they didnt show what happened. I did see the earth behind the good guys collapse so is that what happened to the rest of the orcs?

nauticabinx 2 years ago

at the end of the war of the ring (Return of the King) the ring was destroyed, and all orcs fell under-ground with the Earthquake. with them came the Trolls, Nazguls (<- they got hit my fireballs from Mount Doom) and most of the other creatures created by Sauron or Melkor.

Saromin1 2 years ago

@Saromin1 o ok I was just wondering thanks. So only the monster close by Mount Doom were killed?

nauticabinx 2 years ago

Yea, I think so... but then again: all ohers scattered without thair Master, and then eventually got killed by Humans, Elves, Dwarfs, or Hobbits

Saromin1 2 years ago

@nauticabinx you really need to think of the orcs as a people they dident all just "die out" along with sauron, they prolly fled and hid somewhere underground. the Silmarillion explains how the orcs did that once before, with saurons old master (melkor). all that was before LotR

Tarimoth 1 year ago

No, no, no.

Melkor created the balrogs from tortured souls of elves. There were hundreds, maybe thousands, but never trillions.

TheRoopeKonna 2 years ago

@TheRoopeKonna no. balrogs werent elvesthey were elemental spirits like Sauron (a Maia) the exavt name for them is escaping me atm and idont wanna get the silmarillion out... valakari or some shit

nastrael 10 months ago

@nastrael

Valaraukar?

TheRoopeKonna 10 months ago

gothmog wasnt that orc , gothmog is the lord of the belrogs, he was all so a servent of morgoth like sauron and was abit stronger too..

davidds0 2 years ago

no he wasnt

Sylux111productions 2 years ago

GOTHMOG, was the name of The Lord of the Balrogs, AND the Lieutenant of Morgul. and no, the second one mentioned WAS NOT an Orc, he was just an Orc-Like Creature

Saromin1 2 years ago

Actually, gothmog was an orc. There weren't anything "orc-like creature" in middle-earth. Everything "orc-like" were orcs or the same race but just another tribe. Orcs lived in tribes, that's in the book.

TheRoopeKonna 2 years ago

yeah man.. so awesome vid haha

cant stop laughin

AkademickC 2 years ago 2

its true!! both are minons of Darkness!!!

MythicDude 2 years ago 2

Man, that is so not Gothmog.

ronocdh 2 years ago

@ronocdh

it is :p there are 2 gothmogs:

the first is the lord of the balrogs

and the second is the lieutenant of mordor (an ugly ass orc)

v1dmaker 2 years ago

Gothmog actually was the name for the lord of the balrogs.

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snowninja7842 1 year ago 4

no gothmog is in the book the leader (next to the witch king) of the army of orcs and it's not given what he is. So Peter Jackson made a sponge-orc of him :D

HeavyNoodle 2 years ago