The Prisoner Comic Con 2009 9 minute trailer

[colinmcom14]

Ok so the village is a mental construct in the mind of one lady where other people with problems go? Can someone explain it ?

[thecrazycousins]

Woah. Rover's a BEAST.

[thatyummy]

the original is a clear winner- be seeing you number 11176

[TheAngryIntellectual]

*sigh* I wish I was Ian McKellen.

[TubeofDestiny]

@TubeofDestiny

seriously, the only thing this movie have in common with The Prisoner is the "OMG White Ballons!", that's all. Turning The Prisoner into a B action movie, one of the worst crime ever D:

[DaleCampbellAcoustic]

1:45 "Be seeing you" did he wave?!?! FAIL

[LeBonGirl007]

over polished, over produced, over hyped, American shite.. Fookwits!!!!!..

Always gotta do things ur way whether right or just so damn WRONG!!!

Like Fookin with Cult Classics.....

[PlowJaM]

Most of this is filmed in Swakopmund in Namibia. I recognised every part of the town used. It really is in the middle of the desert. Awesome place to holiday.

[Lucy9596]

I haven't seen the original mini series and I'm looking forward to see this one.

I like that Jim Caviezel is in it and the trailer looks good. I've to wait another 39 days to watch it though. :-(

[HellNight7]

Boring & pointless remake. Just watch the original for the genuine article. Be seeing you!

[subbtopp]

its sort of an allergory for the USA isnt it .where they are not allowed to discuss the war etc.. or vote for universal health care and they have to always salute the flag and swear allligence or be accusted of being anti american and a socalist

[RosaLui]

McKellan looks good.

Besides that... they've taken away Six's gentlemanly culture, his wit, his intelligent snark....

I am going to watch this now, but I do not have high expectations.

[MusicRox88]

I got the First version for Xmas...is it any good??

[fourfingershuffel]

Ive only seen the trailer but what is imediately apparent to me is the duming down of the script. The way everything has to be explained word for word, the original was short on dialogue which leaves things to the imagination and was very sureal. This seems far too one dimensional and straight forward in its aproach. Its a shame how 'Hollywood' wrecks every remake it attempts, just like they did with the Wicker Man!!!

[Elazul2k]

Not the bees! Noooooooo! Not the bee's!!! ARRRRRRRGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!

[ChristmasThief77]

What is the song called at 6:12?

[Schrebernitzel]

it was much more a lacanian metaphor, like Dark City, than the original.

[veejaythernrdj]

The original - fast edits, McGoohan like a caged panther, the story existing on three levels (straight forward thriller, the fight of the individual in a big brother society and mans inner fight against evil). Strange new concepts were introduced (credit cards, electronic doorways). in fact watch it today (forty two years on) it hardly seems dated.

Just watched this trailer...not too optimistic!

[RosaLui]

@veejaythernrdj Well said.

[Shanethefilmmaker]

this is pretty much the same as the original the only difference is that no one is aware of the world outside the village whereas in the 60s version they are aware of it but are afraid to leave because of rover and #2 as well as the mysterious #1

[shonangreg]

Almost the same as the original? It barely merits being called the Prisoner. This is heavily, heavily influenced by "LOST" for the transitions and some effects, and the atmossphere and drama is more "Life On Mars" than it is "The Prisoner".

[youHenner]

@shonangreg well the makers of lost said that they've been influenced by the prisoner.. so maybe it realy is a modern version of the original.

[ItalianoConfuso]

@shonangreg I see most people prefer the original to this. Tough i cannot understand, probably because i watched this before and then the 60s versions... and i didn't like that one

[spacecowboy5000]

@shonangreg If you don't like it why did you post it? To be fair, this was made 42 years after the original. Things change over time. Also, this was made by American producers for an American audience. There's always something lost in translation (look what happened to Red Dwarf).Taking all of this into account it's clear that only the concept survived. I saw the original when it finally aired here and loved it I always thought the original #6 made his resistance too obvious.This one is ok.

[shonangreg]

SG2 The new series does none of this. In the first two episodes of the new series, #6 is unsure of himself. His arguments against those saying there is no outside world actually dignify their stated opinions. You don't argue with a fool. The series might be able to stand on its own, but I do not see how it can be about intellectual freedom anymore. It should not even be called a remake or reimagineering of "The Prisoner". #6 is just too weak-minded.

[shonangreg]

SG1 Well, I just watched the first two episodes, and I am quite disappointed. Maybe there will be some resolution to the way the series is being set up, but the reviews online seem to think not. #6 in the original was a master in a nearly impossible situation, and he gallantly fought to maintain his mind. He showed our vulnerabilities in his attempt, and he inspired us to look deeper and to resolve to not be swayed by adolescent though skillful attempts at bringing us into the fold. (cont'd)

[morningsnoopy]

he wakes up on a mountain in the middle of knowhere, perfectly groomed, perfect hair, hmmm.....

[TAKETHE5TH]

Should have been shot at Portmeirion like the original .

[JohnCope]

No it shouldn't have been. This needed to stay as far removed from the original as is possible in order to have any reason for being. It appears to take the essential themes and structure and play them out in new directions. That is enough. That is more than enough. Why would you want some slavish copy that could not possibly match the first series?

[ohauss]

@JohnCope The problem with that idea is "Why then make a remake to begin with?" What it ends up being is nothing but a trojan horse, a vessel for the creator's own thought hijacking the interest in the original to gain access. Yes, in a way, it's fitting for the Prisoner theme. But it's also a declaration of bankruptcy in terms of creativity: Because I feel unable to generate a proper vessel for my thought, I hijack someone else's.

[baldone66]

A very impressive look. I think this might be worthy of the original. I taught a series of seminars on the original series back in the early 90s,and this looks to be dead on, while simultaneously taking the concept in a new direction... Be seeing it!!

[xtc340]

This looks insufferably worse than the original. A dumbed down idiot's surrealism for the Lost generation.

I'll give it a go, due to amc's awesomeness with Mad Men, but I'm not holding out much hope.

[ScareMeSexy71]

looks great ,,,but correct in 12 months time but the BIG twists is gonna be...The World has been destroyed by A huge War and The village is keeping everyone safe from The Fall out (FALL OUT was the last episode ofd the 60's series) . The Regime is keeping the secret that combined governments fowled up and Mankind lost in a war against itself. Tell me I'm wrong 12 months time.LOl

[ODonnellII]

You know it's a mini-series, right? We'll know how it ends in one month's time, not 12.

[thewewguy8t88]

we found out in 3 days lmao.

[shonangreg]

4) Just think, if Columbus had had your attitude, he never would have sailed to America while looking for India. Only a fool would think there is something good over the horizon ;-)

[shonangreg]

3) And then he never talked about it again.

If my analysis is correct, then the creators of this new series might actually fix McGoohan's mistake. I don't believe they will, but I hope they do. And looking for possibilities and not just mistaking skepticism for intelligence, I see nothing in this trailer that appears to be a problem.

[shonangreg]

2) McGoohan added 10 episodes just to bring in more money for the studio. Then the series was suddenly canceled and he put all he could into the final episode.

I also think the final episode was not done well. There was too little tied down -- too many interpretations left open. McGoohan may have demanded too much of his audience, or he may have actually made a mistake and not thought about some of the other interpretations his viewers would have come up with.

[JohnCope]

If the series ended in some more definitive way with more literal answers it would have ruined what was great about it. As it stands, the final hour explodes into abstruse metaphor making us suddenly realize that the answers we and he sought could only ever be determined on a completely different pitch, an abstract wavelength accessible through free associative philosophy and not prose plotting. This was the necessary and valuable answer McGoohan provided for us.

[shonangreg]

@Johncope: What is the "abstract wavelength accessible through free associative philosophy"? Elaborate, please. Maybe you're saying "The Prisoner" was post-modern in that it transcended the traditional formulations of drama? If so, other than the final episode, where else was such iconoclasm apparent in the series? And if not, just what are you saying? I don't understand you.

[JohnCope]

This will have to go in multiple comments as there is a "character limit" imposed by Youtube. First off, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be vague. In some ways, yes, the show and especially its finale do represent the "post-modern" but I wasn't really talking about that because, as you indicated, the majority of the series could be more or less appreciated without that angle and it is not explicit in the rest.

[JohnCope]

But my point is that in the finale McGoohan, for whatever reason, chose to locate solutions for the questions people were asking purely in abstract and associative imagery and conceptual thought, highlighting the need for a different way of thinking about the ideas they represent. Who is number one? That's answered. Where is the Village? So is that. Does number six escape? And this, etc. But none are answered with the kind of solid explanation or deadening literalism many had anticipated.

[JohnCope]

The answers are kind of sloughed off (as when we suddenly see the trailer appear just down the highway from London) suggesting McGoohan's indifference to a "realistic" answer and that, in turn, suggests that these may have been the wrong questions all along or, at least, the wrong way of approaching the ideas, formulating them as questions that need specific, reductive explanations.

[JohnCope]

Because in this case, for instance, what matters is not where the Village technically is (which is a boring, prosaic detail that reduces the point to a finely honed literalism) but rather what its ultimate proximity to London implies (hence the final title card Prisoner over McGoohan and the door opening on its own for the Butler and the final shot itself.

[shonangreg]

@JohnCope Thanks for the follow-up elaboration. I'm not sure I agree with you, but I appreciate your perspective.

[shonangreg]

1) If you are disappointed with everything in life, Forget, then what value is your opinion to us? You will always expect disappointment.

And the first 5 episodes? Finally you're starting to say enough to merit conversation. Whose order? If you watch McGoohan's original 7 episodes (check wikipedia : List of Prisoner Episodes -- link above on "more info"), then the series makes a lot more sense.

[TheReluctantKing]

Looks good!

[mykietea]

the 1960's prisoner series is a classic, and Patrick Mcgoohan was incredible at keeping the show unique and fresh. i do have high expectation for the new one.

[shonangreg]

@ForgetaboutFreeman, "most probably"? You just don't know, do you? Are you trying to sound smart? I *hope* this series is good, and the trailer shows no problems. And don't bother responding now. If there were a problem shown in the trailer, you would have mentioned it in your first post.

[sofer1456]

looks cool

[TheMinister001]

Anybody know the name of the music?

[Steadyrock100]

I can hardly wait!