Also one should be careful dissembling a printer as you can skew it out of alignment. This is definitely not an EPSON, because EPSON squirts its ink on thick porous pads that absorb ink and it has a counter that stops printer before the pads become too soaked to avoid flooding printer with ink. I use refills mate, no more worries about ink costs. What is strange is how come you have a flood of ink in your printer, it's supposed to be directed to the pads, you might have a tubing problem
The pads in this one had rectangular cutouts in them - apparently designed that way so that the liquid components of the ink would wick into them, leaving mostly solids in the reservoir.
You're wrong about the brand - It was my intention to try to obscure it in the video, but this one was indeed an Epson - one of several that I took apart in similar circumstances (end of life due to full waste reservoir) - and they were all similarly mired with sludgy ink residue.
It's not a dirty little secret. Printers are required to pass ink through the nozzle at set intervals in order to keep the nozzles wet, otherwise, ink dries up and you get clogged nozzles . BTW, I don't know what brand of printer this is, but I have owned many EPSON printers and in all cases I would mod them to redirect the waste ink tube outside the printer to a bottle so my printer inside is dry and clean and so are the pads...squeaky clean.
This is standard, even for the big 24" and 36" printers. I wouldn't say its a secret but its good to let people who didn't know, know. Also there are laser printers, including my own that waste toner because it re-calibrates it self, leaving loose toner all over the inside of my printer.
The solution is to FIRST bypass the waste tank. When you get a new printer, before you ever hook it up, you should take it apart and lead the waste tank tube to the outside of the printer, into a bottle that you can easily empty from time to time. Then, you should hook up a CIS.
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if you're that concerned with wasted ink, get a turkey baster and suck up the ink and squeeze it back into the cartridges. although, this might create a problem because all the ink (black and color) is mixed together.
a friend of mine has a large format colour inkjet printer and it has a constant ink feed system and a solvent flush system which uses thinners instead of using expensive ink flushing and has user serviceable waste containers! ink costs about £30 for a 1 litre bottle and that will do about 1000 full colour a1 size posters!
WOW, what printer is that? all my previous printers have only had a tiny wast ink collector. Its also worth considering getting printer that doesn't clog often. ie Don't buy an Epsom/Lexmark LOL.
Sadly I think it has to do with all inkjet printers from any brand. I read that the inkjet needs to 'clean itself' before and after printing to prevent clogged nozzles. Therefore it does a tiny clean cycle every time it is asked to print something...hence all the waste ink. Inkjet ink also dries quickly so that's why some people can go through 3 or 4 cartridges of ink in a year if they don't use their printer very often.
It is not necessary to formulate a solution in order to identify a problem. Laser printers are typically cheaper to run - or the solution might be just not printing so much.
@AtomicShrimp The solution is to reset the waste counter! All injet printers are programmed to count the amount of times that a printer cleans and will automatically give you an error message when a certain number is reached. Restting the counter fools the printer into thinking you have not reached that number yet, however if you keep on using it for a long time after you reset the counter the ink tray may leak but then again I have reset my counter 3 times and no leaks yet!!!
@chillichomper There IS a solution. I print very rarely, so in order to stop this "self cleaning" process, I simply remove and reclip the cartridges for intermittent storage. They all come with a plastic clip that holds a soft pad against a strip of cellophane like plastic, which in turn seals the print head and keeps it from drying out. Save those clips and re-use them. - Island Inkjet refill tech.
@chillichomper the solution is to reset the waste counter! All injet printers are programmed to count the amount of times that a printer cleans and will automatically give you an error message when a certain number is reached. Restting the counter fools the printer into thinking you have not reached that number yet, however if you keep on using it for a long time after you reset the counter the ink tray may leak but then again I have reset my counter 3 times and no leaks yet!!!
@chillichomper there is a solution to it. a russian programmer made a program that will disable the error message and magically the printer works again
i have an ink jet printer/ scanner, and i would scan alot, but almost never print. i put ink in my printer all the time because half the time when i turn it on to scan it says low ink so i replace it. do you think everytime i turn it on and it does its "thing" it is wasting ink like this? if so i seriously demand a refund from HP
@heatherwillis1990 I believe everytime you turn it on, it will remember minutes and hours. It will remember everytime you print. I guess, it will also remember when you don't print so there must be some short of time limit of the use of your inkt. Thanks for your comment, I didn't know HP uses inkt even without printing!
My canon printer died, so I guess why not and do some research myself. I always wonder why just printing in black, the three color boxes are being used too.
@chillichomper I'm sorry, I don't have time at the moment but I will do my research and film it on camera. I can already tell you that the printer has a secret cell battery stored inside that remembers how many time you use your printer so the inkts have some short of countdown chip. To unplug the cell battery and plug it again, I think the memory will be deleted.
Yep I looked down there and there it was. I touched it and it was absolutely saturated thick and grubby, and the tip of my finger is now covered in black ink.
I'll tell you something else too: I have an HP C3180 and, unusually, it's coloured light grey, so I've been seeing the ink splattered all around the compartment. So that's why they are all now black - so you can't see it! Don't you just love corporate capitalism?
It makes me sick - (original meaning not yank slang) so i stopped putting my finger down my throat -presto no big mess- problem solved Ok My old epson did this so binned it got another went for the siss ink system things looked good but if you leave these alone for 2-3 weeks you start getting that old sickie feeling again oh no not that again ! I was last seen running for the hills to live as a wild man
Absolutely true! I dimantled my evil Br*th8r "allinone." This beast "self cleaned twice a day and would EMPTY $60 worth of cartriges in about 5 weeks. Once I learned this I just kept the power off. When I needed it It worked fine even though it hadn't "cleaned" itself in weeks. When I took it apart, it not only had a brick sized absorbet reservoir but a complex pump system to move the ink! Maybe in a dry climate the waste is needed but you should be able to choose this function. Evil!
Is it just the more modern inkjets that do this? My old Epson Stylus colour 600 printer lasted for years and years, at one point it was in use quite a lot too. I diddnt mind buying genuine Epson ink cartridges for it as they lasted for ages and ages. My modern day Epson Stylus Photo RX425 all in one however.....the inks dont last anywhere near as long. The old 600 the inks lasted about 4x longer.
Not really a secret, also not all inkjet's have this issue it depends on the type of print head, Thermal print heads (general built into the cartridge) do not have this issue. Wile piezoelectric heads do as any dry residue in the head can destroy it. Waste ink in these systems are not problem, its the high markup companies put on the ink, and vain attempts at hardware locks in a attempt to prevent using third party inks (this can be easy bypassed however) Just buy a CIS kit, problem solved.
I still have my year 1999 deskjet 930c printer working great after all this time still and great quality printer! 00:17 These bs messages only come up on the newer printers with firmware inside them. Dont know which particular ones though......
@keith23uk I have the same printer and it indeed works quite well to this day. But look into it with a flashlight with the cover open to the right where the print head usually sits. Mine has a mountain of ink which has built up here. Seems to be more solid than what this video shows.
And this is why I buy laser printers, and refill the cartridges myself. You think your Continuous Ink System (CIS) is a good investment? It's still wasting it in the waste area--the printer is designed to do that. Toner is $10 for enough toner to do refill a cartridge at least 4 times, and it prints in the hundreds of pages. When the cartridge finally fails, I take it to a local printer supplier, and he gives me another cartridge for $30 which I refill same as this one. INKJET IS A TOTAL SCAM.
my brother printer just grabs a piece of paper and shoots a TINY amount of ink though them,and only when it notices the cart's starting to clog up. In fact you can only make out a TINY dot on the paper,and it's still fine for printing. Man i love brother.
This is one of the reasons I feel bad about helping people buy printers at Staples... A pen costs .15c and a printer and ink cost at least 200$ in the long run... Of course no one wants to write 1,000 pages a month of the same thing so I can understand why people want them but, inkjets especially just kinda feel wrong to sell...
NEVER purchase a CISS from a company called FORINKANDMORE from San Marcos, Texas. They advertise continuous ink systems for your printer. Your credit card will be charged but you will NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING. I am not the only one duped by this SCAM. Whats more they have instruction vidoes right here on youtube! They are on RIPoff report and also warnings on the BBB site. Warn others before they too are duped! Thanks
I think my waste ink reservoir is full; if you can solve this problem, go ahead and void your warranty, else get me to a service department: pretty please with a chocolate coated cherry on top!
And that toner goes into a waste receptical as well. My printer repair tech showed me last week the toner waste receptical on our Canon laser copier/printers. He has to empty it once a month. We print about 600,000 pages a month.
Something tells me the waste is far less than with inkjet. 600,000 pages is far more than the regular person prints in a month. If you have to clean it once a month, whereas this video shows what the normal inkjet gets with the normal person after a few months, then the waste-to-use ratio must be much lower.
This is how ink jet cartridge companies rip people off they overcharge for such a tiny cart that's only filled up half way and whatever you don't use for printing is wasted in that ink well. I've taken apart many printers and found this well. Careful it makes a huge mess and it WILL NOT come out easily. I may think of getting a different printer one that's not an inkjet. It's all about money.
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@Bradhahn14 It's approx 23 Kilograms or if you're talking about British money, about $100US, give or take 20 bucks, for international exchange fluctuations.
Check out the comments on amazon about Kodak printers, hundreds of complaints about these junk printers. Ink is not cheaper, you pay less because they put less in the cartridge and you get less printed pages due to excessive cleaning. Buy a different brand, and save yourself some grief and money.JUNK!
Respond to this video... I am at a loss as to why some really cleaver scientist inventor has not got over this problem to beat the ink suppliers at their own game.
Surely there must be some method where-by chips can be by passed in every brand of printer by one universal chip inserted into cassettes.
After all, the vacuum cleaner bag rip off was beaten by John Dyson.
@bbcisrubbish I use a fantastic continuous ink system and it costs me peanuts. I NEVER use the manufactured ink cartridges for my Epson Artisan 50. Way too expensive when I can purchase enough ink for months for only $18.99 for my bulk ink system.
yup; had the same problem with my lexmark printer many years ago; the "spent" ink had built up to such a height that it came into contact with the bottom of the ink jet head; it carried some of it back to the page it was printing.....hence there was so much smudge on the pages.
it's like taking a dump and not flushing your toilet; the next time you use it, you get to sit on the shit that's piled up and sticks to your ass.
@AtomicShrimp, Also, I think inkjet companies may also forget to factor in the humidity difference. In US, it is rather dry, but in other countries, it is not so. Consequently, the ink head can dry up or clog up to different extent depending on the locality of the printer.
This reminds me of how European cars are often seen over heated (sometimes in flames!) in South East Asian countries ... the engineers forget to factor in climate!
@AtomicShrimp, thanks for the video. I found a similar design in (as I remember it) an Epson inkjet printer and also an HP inkjet printer. Granted, not all printers will squirt ink out intentionally just to waste it, most would squirt ink in order to clean the heads.
Some models are simply dumber in that they will do the clean cycle as long as it is a power on. Sure waste tons of ink this way.
Agreed. I don't believe there's actually any deliberate waste-for-the-sake-of-waste happening here - it's just inherent to the nature of inkjet printers that the jets block up and need clearing - the material available to perform this is ink.
Inkjet ink does, however, remain one of the most costly liquids on the planet, but there are signs that manufacturers may be starting to take the brave step of making the ink cheaper and exploiting that as their commercial edge, instead.
Ok, fine. The jets need to be cleaned, but what about ANY other liquid? Does it really make sense fiscally to use the ONE liquid that's more expensive per volume than human blood?
The jets eject ink onto the paper when they are printing, yes, but in between pages (and sometimes during the printing of a page), the print head moves to the waste ink aperture (which is located to the side of the paper path) and squirts ink down it to clean the jets.
good to know, but keep in mind that one of the purposes of this is to make sure the ink keeps flowing. if you let the printer sit for a long period of time it doesn't print anymore because the ink is dried up. however, this can be easily fixed by adding a couple drops of water into the ink pores
You sure rename this video, "Good example on how to get rich off of, Youtube ads revenue." Notice how the ink pads are still white, if their was that much ink, those pads would also be black, and the ink would be dry up, he just pour the ink in their, to get money off of views on youtube.
2. The pads are not black because inkjet ink is pigment-based - this means it's made from finely-divided SOLID particles suspended in a liquid. The liquid (solvent) soaks into the wadding. The solids *cannot* soak anywhere, so they become concentrated in the open part of the reservoir, leading to the tar-like appearance of the residue.
3. The only thing I 'poured' into this printer was money - the money required to buy ink cartridges.
If anyone reading this still doubts my integrity on this, or any other matter, I recommend they visit my site (the address is in the vide) and see whether you think I'm the sort of person to mislead my viewers.
Uninformed, knee-jerk cynicism about online video and other content is one of the saddest aspects of the internet.
@AtomicShrimp Your wrong on every point, I work on professional grade printers and have yet to see one that use anywhere near that much ink. Epson does use the pigment-based ink system, but the pump move the ink toward the middle of the printer and towards the pad so it can soak it up, of course sometimes clump up, but very little at best, plus the pump doesnt shoot ink back into the head, it suck it out of the head to clean the nozzles, then move the head over to clean the capping station.
Yet again, you're not making sense. In this printer, the ink enters the waste reservoir from one of two apertures at each end of the the print head's travel. The pump apparatus (also part of the head cleaning mechanism) and the capping station has nothing to do with these waste reservoirs - the ink enters them directly from the print head via the holes in the bottom of the printer.
Maybe the printers you're familiar with work in a different way - in any case, the accusation that I poured something in there, so as to make myself rich is both false and ridiculous.
Inkjet are good for photos, use a laser printer for documents, the good injets printers the ink waste is removable for cleaning. No inkjet use that much ink, their are waste pads absorber in the printer, you just pour the ink in there.
I used to take these printers apart when they stopped working, to salvage the motors and some of the electronic and mechanical parts - the first time I saw it, I wasn't expecting it - and it made a terrible mess of my workbench - I couldn't believe it, but they all turned out to be like this.
I've always been against inkjet printers , and being an IT professional i know what a waste of money they are.
1.only a fool would buy an inkjet.
2.only an even bigger fool would buy a Lexmark!
3.only a fool would buy genuine ink cartridges.
ive never understood why one would buy an Inkjet especially when colour laserjets are so cheap now , Circa £100 - £150 new or £50 i paid for my HP CP1215 colour laser from ebay practically brand new !
ive had my printer for a few yrs now and its only just started to do the error shown on here for all the printing ive done on it its payed for it self i just went out and brought a new one much cheaper that getting it serviced
It is dirty and it is a secret. However it also is "little".
Making inkjet printers this way has enabled the masses of the world to have quality and speed at a cost way below previous clogging alternative devices.
Rather than revealing anything the slightest bit sinister or negative, I too thank you for your video, but would label it "The Brilliant Secret to Inkjet's Price/Performance Ratio"! Cheers!
I'd be inclined to agree, were it not for the inflated price of ink. As it stands, I don't agree that the price/performance ratio is particularly brilliant.
I can't help thinking that some of the very compact colour laser printers are so close to the small end of the scale that I have to doubt their efficiency - but I don't have any firsthand experience of them, so maybe they're better than I expect.
My experience of colour laser printing in general has been that it's great for text and graphics, but not so good for photos.
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Your video is very misleading. Not all printers behave like this, only "continuous flow" inkjet printers, and ultimately the more your print the more ends up in that waste reservoir. You can't recycle that ink either because it coagulates or hardens up. Do your research.
Perhaps you ran too many cleaning cycles. I have inkjet printers that have been working for nearly 13 years now. Or maybe it has a problem or something.
If this is true, I really think printer companies should include a bay where you could throw away the sponge and replace it. Hey it would be another part they could sell you too. They could even embed a cheap microchip inside of it to force you to buy their brand!
This was one of several printers of the same model that I disassembled from an office where all of the printing was done on inkjets - they were all quite similar. Maybe there was something peculiarly bad about this particular model, but if you think about it - look at the size of the absorbent pad in there - it's an inch and a half thick and occupies nearly the entire footprint of the machine - clearly this printer was expected to accumulate a lot of waste ink.
It's strange I have a Inkjet ESPON printer for like 11 or 12 years now, and not any problems... the heads are still the same. The last EPSON I bought ask soo much for Ink, and it seems you can't change each separate colour, even if they are separated... >_<
This happened to my printer, although it was slightly different (there was only one sponge thing, which the ink was sent to via a tube) my dad replaced all the 'wadding' with an external bottle, attached via the tube, this took around 6months to fill up, but could just be replaced afterwards.
I think my mom saw this because one day she came home saying she bought the cheapest printer in the world. I wanted to see it and it was just a few pencils and a ream of xerox paper... Ya. Cheap all right.
Yea that's an epson, and only epsons do this. why? because epson cartridges are just that, boxes of ink. Canon cartridges come with their own print heads, making them more expensive to manufacture, but they don't need to be cleaned as assiduously since the print head doesn't have to last the life of the printer. It's a tradeoff, live with it :o I've got a couple canon inkjets with continuous feed ink set up, so I get the best of both worlds: cheap ink and replaceable heads :)
@AleksanderClark - it's true that some printers have print heads built into the cartridge, however, the separation of cartridge and print head definitely isn't an idea exclusive to Epson - quite a few of the others do it too, including some Canon models.
@AtomicShrimp it's not exclusive to epson perhaps, but it is something epson does on all their printers. This is because epson's print head technology is piezo-electric instead of thermo-electric... I feel safe in asserting that *generally* speaking, Epson printers have separate print heads and most other brands use integrated heads, especially considering the "disposable' mindset of the consumer inkjet market.
@AleksanderClark - Understood, however I'm not sure I'd agree about the dominance of integrated heads. In my experience, it's pretty much the opposite now, at least for the lower-priced models - and I was actually shopping for a printer last weekend - I don't think I saw anything on offer (within my budget) that had integrated print heads - HP, Lexmark, Epson, Canon - all small, ink-only carts - I settled for a Kodak in the end, because the (separate) print heads are easily replaceable.
@AtomicShrimp ah, could very well be. I don't do much inkjet shopping, just a lot of inkjet scavenging, so it's possible things have changed. I could see where manufacture of the print heads has reached a point where they're more reliable, or the manufacturers have just decided to go to printers with even shorter useful lives. I'll have to keep an eye out if I'm ever in the market, I've gone through three heads on my main canon printer so far.
@AleksanderClark "...or the manufacturers have just decided to go to printers with even shorter useful lives..."
-This, I think, to a certain extent, at least until your printer breaks, they can't sell you a new one that takes even smaller ink cartridges than before
what is needed is a way to electrostatically charge the ink and make the paper negative. just like they do in a auto manufacturers paint booth. nothin would be left behind to clog the nozzle.
I used to run a printer repair shop, believe it or we found urine to be an excellent cleaner for the printer heads. Piss in a mug or something, heat it to about 70 degrees, use one of those milk heaters/steamers that you get in those cappuchino/coffee makers, clean the heads. You'll be suprised how well it works
Wholly crap that's a lot waste ink. I guess all ink jet printers all over the world are wasting as much ink as yours. Thanks for posting this very informative video.
What I do with mine is about every 10-14 days remove the print head and sit it on its nozzles on a wet paper towel for a couple of hours. This softens up and drying ink and cuts down on the amount of "cleaning" that needs to be done.
@Phanthomas8910 If you need a colour printer, however, laser is going to cost you thousands. Colour toner cartridges are heartrending expensive, and many printers would simply stop working if you don't replace the empty one. I know, I work in a place with a Rex-Rotary (Ricoh) toner-guzzler which is costing them an eye and a leg once a month. No remanufactured or OEM cartridges are available for that particular model, moreover, and originals cost from €85 (each colour) to €109 (black).
Imagine if they stacked 2 ink cartridges , using the bottom to catch the CMYB colors then you could rotate the cartridges and use the ink.. All this from a dumb bunny in Florida.
That's an idea with potential. In practical terms, it might be difficult to implement in a desktop printer, because the collected ink might be contaminated with dust etc - so might need filtering or reprocessing before re-use
Maybe a single use filter could be built into the collection port of a disposable cartridge. The BIG problem is trying to get the printer manufacturers interested - it demands R&D investment, but would ultimately result in reduced income on ink sales.
@AtomicShrimp Dust and debris-- Well, I was thinking instead of a well, have the print head move over top of another set of cartridges, after a wiper cleans the bottom of lint, debris, etc..
Then dispatch its cleaning ink into a waiting cartridge. shouldn't be to hard to do.
At least recollect all for black. or BROWN as I assume it would be. All colors mixed.
And I agree about interest, they make more by selling the cartridge.
It's not WASTING ink. It's doing it to keep the heads clear. If you can find a way for it to keep the heads clear WITHOUT doing this then you'll be a wealthy man.
@DaPhotoGuy That's right. But the technology to make the printer reusing the drained ink instead of wasting it is readily available. Just make printing units with ink TANKS (and not cartridges) easily refillable with ink bottles, with a closed-loop ink cleaning circuit. They COULD make it, but they won't because selling tons of plastic cartridges with 8ml of ink - half of which will get wasted - is far more profitable, and 'so what' to the environment.
The company I worked for used Epson printers as part of a industrial machine. The most common maintenance was changing the tampon. Yes, that's the name for the cotton thingy.
Great video, this explains why my Epson C88 gobbles up so much ink. Every 50 pages or so it needed a new black cartridge which is $20+ if you buy them from Epson. I'm never buying another Epson printer.
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I work in the printing industry. This feature exists exclusively on epson printers (its a patented design). it is meant to recycle the ink. It does not recycle the ink if non genuine cartridges are used.Instead this ink will turn to gunge as we have seen here. Why doe sit turn to gunge? Epson use a different way of getting ink on the paper thermal I believe it is.
Using compatible cartridges will void all warranty on any printer. And also cause it to break as seen here.
There's no way this design could recycle the ink. The colours are not even kept separate in the waste reservoir.
Also, this particular printer (as well as all the others I opened, from the same office) never had anything but manufacturer-original cartridges used in it.
@AtomicShrimp If the printer was designed smartly the ink could be easily recycled. All you would need to go is have a pad that slides under each individual cartridge head, and then pumps the ink back into the cartridge to be recycled.
I work in the printing industyr. This feature exists exclusively on epson printers (its a ptented design). it is meant to recycle the ink. It does not recycle the ink if non genuine cartridges are used.Instead this ink will turn to gunge as we have seen here. Why doe sit turn to gunge? Epson use a different way of getting ink on the paper thermal I believe it is.
Using compatible cartridges will void all warranty on any printer. And also cause it to break as seen here.
I had an Epson that commited suicide in the same way with the same error message as AtomicShrimp's did. I currently own a Canon MX300 that is over 2 years old. Which from what I gather, is about 200 in printer years. Before the MX300 flings itself over the virtual reality cliff, I would like to acquire a reliable backup. What printer is most reliable for color printing, faxing and scanning?
I have an Epson and an HP. The HP has worked for a long time. If the print head gets dirty you are supposed to clean it with a damp cloth. The Epson (newer) does some self cleaning thing which I have to do to get the new cartridges working every time I replace. I feel like the HP is a better print head design.
Also one should be careful dissembling a printer as you can skew it out of alignment. This is definitely not an EPSON, because EPSON squirts its ink on thick porous pads that absorb ink and it has a counter that stops printer before the pads become too soaked to avoid flooding printer with ink. I use refills mate, no more worries about ink costs. What is strange is how come you have a flood of ink in your printer, it's supposed to be directed to the pads, you might have a tubing problem
bigmoney66b 2 weeks ago
@bigmoney66b
The pads in this one had rectangular cutouts in them - apparently designed that way so that the liquid components of the ink would wick into them, leaving mostly solids in the reservoir.
You're wrong about the brand - It was my intention to try to obscure it in the video, but this one was indeed an Epson - one of several that I took apart in similar circumstances (end of life due to full waste reservoir) - and they were all similarly mired with sludgy ink residue.
AtomicShrimp 2 weeks ago
It's not a dirty little secret. Printers are required to pass ink through the nozzle at set intervals in order to keep the nozzles wet, otherwise, ink dries up and you get clogged nozzles . BTW, I don't know what brand of printer this is, but I have owned many EPSON printers and in all cases I would mod them to redirect the waste ink tube outside the printer to a bottle so my printer inside is dry and clean and so are the pads...squeaky clean.
bigmoney66b 2 weeks ago
This is standard, even for the big 24" and 36" printers. I wouldn't say its a secret but its good to let people who didn't know, know. Also there are laser printers, including my own that waste toner because it re-calibrates it self, leaving loose toner all over the inside of my printer.
sasukesan767 3 weeks ago
Thank you for sharing.
wbmaxon 4 weeks ago
and what's the point????
calutzubv 4 weeks ago
@calutzubv dont buy an inkjet printer
Nik121294 3 weeks ago
Here's a dirty little secret: Printing isn't free.
Eihort 1 month ago
is the printer epson
TheSillyification 1 month ago
The solution is to FIRST bypass the waste tank. When you get a new printer, before you ever hook it up, you should take it apart and lead the waste tank tube to the outside of the printer, into a bottle that you can easily empty from time to time. Then, you should hook up a CIS.
88beauzeau88 1 month ago 3
The inkjet industry has done a great job in terms of image quality and performance. But it needs to be more upfront and honest about some things.
joe63074 1 month ago 2
He is using a Epson Printer...
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MrLarkchen 2 months ago
If you want colour and you dont want to use it often buy a laser printer. If you want photos then buy an inkjet and use often.
Its not really a dirty secret as if the printer didnt clean itself you;d be annoyed about streaking, and to be honest £28.99 what do you expect? lol
Laser printers also all have toner waste too, but they have replacement bottles.
Decent inkjets actually have optical eyes in them so are able to do a nozzle check on paper and work out if they need a clean.
ianbowler007 2 months ago
waste? Oh, that's just CORPORATIONS creating more jobs!!!
jm2557 2 months ago
if you're that concerned with wasted ink, get a turkey baster and suck up the ink and squeeze it back into the cartridges. although, this might create a problem because all the ink (black and color) is mixed together.
chattychar 2 months ago
a friend of mine has a large format colour inkjet printer and it has a constant ink feed system and a solvent flush system which uses thinners instead of using expensive ink flushing and has user serviceable waste containers! ink costs about £30 for a 1 litre bottle and that will do about 1000 full colour a1 size posters!
tech4pros1 3 months ago
Had to sign in when I saw this video, thanks so much for uploading, it's very interesting.
dillinger4875 3 months ago
WOW, what printer is that? all my previous printers have only had a tiny wast ink collector. Its also worth considering getting printer that doesn't clog often. ie Don't buy an Epsom/Lexmark LOL.
MasterGravitron 3 months ago
@MasterGravitron
Sadly I think it has to do with all inkjet printers from any brand. I read that the inkjet needs to 'clean itself' before and after printing to prevent clogged nozzles. Therefore it does a tiny clean cycle every time it is asked to print something...hence all the waste ink. Inkjet ink also dries quickly so that's why some people can go through 3 or 4 cartridges of ink in a year if they don't use their printer very often.
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printermaniac 3 months ago
in the first frame you can see what kind of printer it is. :|
ProxyPete 3 months ago
Ok. Nice little "secret". What is the solution? If no solution , workaround or mitigating action then this was 1:37 of wasted viewing time.
chillichomper 4 months ago
@chillichomper I've heard about a generation which canna arrange for itself, & xpects everything handed to ya... lovely youth.
InsightThunder 3 months ago
@chillichomper
It is not necessary to formulate a solution in order to identify a problem. Laser printers are typically cheaper to run - or the solution might be just not printing so much.
AtomicShrimp 3 months ago 7
@AtomicShrimp The solution is to reset the waste counter! All injet printers are programmed to count the amount of times that a printer cleans and will automatically give you an error message when a certain number is reached. Restting the counter fools the printer into thinking you have not reached that number yet, however if you keep on using it for a long time after you reset the counter the ink tray may leak but then again I have reset my counter 3 times and no leaks yet!!!
elvis459 2 months ago
@chillichomper There IS a solution. I print very rarely, so in order to stop this "self cleaning" process, I simply remove and reclip the cartridges for intermittent storage. They all come with a plastic clip that holds a soft pad against a strip of cellophane like plastic, which in turn seals the print head and keeps it from drying out. Save those clips and re-use them. - Island Inkjet refill tech.
phantasm48 2 months ago
@chillichomper the solution is to reset the waste counter! All injet printers are programmed to count the amount of times that a printer cleans and will automatically give you an error message when a certain number is reached. Restting the counter fools the printer into thinking you have not reached that number yet, however if you keep on using it for a long time after you reset the counter the ink tray may leak but then again I have reset my counter 3 times and no leaks yet!!!
elvis459 2 months ago
@chillichomper there is a solution to it. a russian programmer made a program that will disable the error message and magically the printer works again
booboomanification 1 month ago
i have an ink jet printer/ scanner, and i would scan alot, but almost never print. i put ink in my printer all the time because half the time when i turn it on to scan it says low ink so i replace it. do you think everytime i turn it on and it does its "thing" it is wasting ink like this? if so i seriously demand a refund from HP
heatherwillis1990 4 months ago
@heatherwillis1990 I believe everytime you turn it on, it will remember minutes and hours. It will remember everytime you print. I guess, it will also remember when you don't print so there must be some short of time limit of the use of your inkt. Thanks for your comment, I didn't know HP uses inkt even without printing!
zaraki888 4 months ago
12 dislike from Epson's boss ;-)
andersenchong 4 months ago
My canon printer died, so I guess why not and do some research myself. I always wonder why just printing in black, the three color boxes are being used too.
zaraki888 4 months ago
@zaraki888 Soooo what did you find?
chillichomper 4 months ago
@chillichomper I'm sorry, I don't have time at the moment but I will do my research and film it on camera. I can already tell you that the printer has a secret cell battery stored inside that remembers how many time you use your printer so the inkts have some short of countdown chip. To unplug the cell battery and plug it again, I think the memory will be deleted.
zaraki888 4 months ago
Hahaha Great video ! Manufacturers earn milions on cartridges...
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printermaniac 4 months ago
Well you can make like Creed and dye your hair with it...
a10fjet 4 months ago
Yep I looked down there and there it was. I touched it and it was absolutely saturated thick and grubby, and the tip of my finger is now covered in black ink.
I'll tell you something else too: I have an HP C3180 and, unusually, it's coloured light grey, so I've been seeing the ink splattered all around the compartment. So that's why they are all now black - so you can't see it! Don't you just love corporate capitalism?
CrankCase02 4 months ago
It makes me sick - (original meaning not yank slang) so i stopped putting my finger down my throat -presto no big mess- problem solved Ok My old epson did this so binned it got another went for the siss ink system things looked good but if you leave these alone for 2-3 weeks you start getting that old sickie feeling again oh no not that again ! I was last seen running for the hills to live as a wild man
MrBarrytommy 5 months ago
Absolutely true! I dimantled my evil Br*th8r "allinone." This beast "self cleaned twice a day and would EMPTY $60 worth of cartriges in about 5 weeks. Once I learned this I just kept the power off. When I needed it It worked fine even though it hadn't "cleaned" itself in weeks. When I took it apart, it not only had a brick sized absorbet reservoir but a complex pump system to move the ink! Maybe in a dry climate the waste is needed but you should be able to choose this function. Evil!
jeepsterama 5 months ago
Is it just the more modern inkjets that do this? My old Epson Stylus colour 600 printer lasted for years and years, at one point it was in use quite a lot too. I diddnt mind buying genuine Epson ink cartridges for it as they lasted for ages and ages. My modern day Epson Stylus Photo RX425 all in one however.....the inks dont last anywhere near as long. The old 600 the inks lasted about 4x longer.
ash7990 5 months ago
Not really a secret, also not all inkjet's have this issue it depends on the type of print head, Thermal print heads (general built into the cartridge) do not have this issue. Wile piezoelectric heads do as any dry residue in the head can destroy it. Waste ink in these systems are not problem, its the high markup companies put on the ink, and vain attempts at hardware locks in a attempt to prevent using third party inks (this can be easy bypassed however) Just buy a CIS kit, problem solved.
Lokivoid 5 months ago
Thanks a lot for the video...
safyanshah 5 months ago
Btw saying all inkjet printers do the same is wrong! My HP deskjet 930c definitely doesnt! Think looks like an Epson to me.
keith23uk 6 months ago
@keith23uk your printer sure as hell does do this....open it up, you will find the resivior, you just may not have filled it yet
whtthfgg 5 months ago
I still have my year 1999 deskjet 930c printer working great after all this time still and great quality printer! 00:17 These bs messages only come up on the newer printers with firmware inside them. Dont know which particular ones though......
keith23uk 6 months ago
@keith23uk I have the same printer and it indeed works quite well to this day. But look into it with a flashlight with the cover open to the right where the print head usually sits. Mine has a mountain of ink which has built up here. Seems to be more solid than what this video shows.
GTechno13 6 months ago
Oh, you are preaching to the choir. It should be against a law to purposefully disable the capability of things like that. I call it 'crapitalism'.
pisymph 6 months ago
And this is why I buy laser printers, and refill the cartridges myself. You think your Continuous Ink System (CIS) is a good investment? It's still wasting it in the waste area--the printer is designed to do that. Toner is $10 for enough toner to do refill a cartridge at least 4 times, and it prints in the hundreds of pages. When the cartridge finally fails, I take it to a local printer supplier, and he gives me another cartridge for $30 which I refill same as this one. INKJET IS A TOTAL SCAM.
spokehedz 6 months ago
my brother printer just grabs a piece of paper and shoots a TINY amount of ink though them,and only when it notices the cart's starting to clog up. In fact you can only make out a TINY dot on the paper,and it's still fine for printing. Man i love brother.
ypoora1 6 months ago
This is one of the reasons I feel bad about helping people buy printers at Staples... A pen costs .15c and a printer and ink cost at least 200$ in the long run... Of course no one wants to write 1,000 pages a month of the same thing so I can understand why people want them but, inkjets especially just kinda feel wrong to sell...
NeoGriim 6 months ago
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SlimeAmTheBest 6 months ago
Quite clearly an Epson.
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oiledseabirds 6 months ago
unplug your printer when your done?
ZachariahLogan 6 months ago
That is not a secret i remember to read about it in the manual of my Canon printer, years ago.
DomesticHacks 7 months ago
I think it should have read:
I think my waste ink reservoir is full; if you can solve this problem, go ahead and void your warranty, else get me to a service department: pretty please with a chocolate coated cherry on top!
jjovereats 7 months ago
interdasting
Robalose 7 months ago
Yeah.. the manufacturers do this on pupose! So that the inkjet woult last long and you have to buy a new one.
TomTheHarmonicaKid 7 months ago
Does a laser printer have the same defect?
miketty6 8 months ago
@miketty6
Laser printers don't use ink. They use special toner which is burned into the paper.
Draknfyre 7 months ago
@Draknfyre
And that toner goes into a waste receptical as well. My printer repair tech showed me last week the toner waste receptical on our Canon laser copier/printers. He has to empty it once a month. We print about 600,000 pages a month.
bishoplord 7 months ago
@bishoplord
Something tells me the waste is far less than with inkjet. 600,000 pages is far more than the regular person prints in a month. If you have to clean it once a month, whereas this video shows what the normal inkjet gets with the normal person after a few months, then the waste-to-use ratio must be much lower.
Draknfyre 7 months ago
This is how ink jet cartridge companies rip people off they overcharge for such a tiny cart that's only filled up half way and whatever you don't use for printing is wasted in that ink well. I've taken apart many printers and found this well. Careful it makes a huge mess and it WILL NOT come out easily. I may think of getting a different printer one that's not an inkjet. It's all about money.
coondogtheman1234 8 months ago
GET A LASER PRINTER. OR BUY KNOCK OFF INK.
CadenceCPK 8 months ago
my inkjet i way better !! , no problems like this!,
SuperHarsh123 9 months ago
Sorry, I don't know how much 50 pounds is...
Bradhahn14 9 months ago
@Bradhahn14
If only there was some way to work it out.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago 71
It's a plain madness of the devil, your English numbers- a plague of cleverness &No end. God gave US his safe vanilla txty-letters, and the extra vowels, &He is our Rock. ew..perhaps I jerked off in school on numbers day. but Cousin! you may know things.. about stuff...yet 1TruGod is on R side- Do not fail!! True X Day again approaches...
InsightThunder 3 months ago
@Bradhahn14 according to google as of today
"50 British pounds sterling = 81.1900 US dollars"
smsff7 8 months ago
@Bradhahn14 It's approx 23 Kilograms or if you're talking about British money, about $100US, give or take 20 bucks, for international exchange fluctuations.
batlad 8 months ago
@Bradhahn14 22.7 kilos
miketty6 8 months ago
@Bradhahn14 Thats approximately 25 kg, depending on which pound you are talking about.
wwwtotalitaerde 8 months ago
@Bradhahn14 about $100 bucks
ItwaterDAME 8 months ago
@Bradhahn14 about $75, think of it this way for every pound we get roughly $1.50 so £50 + half again = $75
Redshift21 4 months ago
Wow, am I glad to see this. I've been marveling (if that is the word) at how quickly
my printers all can run out of ink. It seem grossly obvious that these printer
companies really wish to just ream the user of any extra cash as long as
they still qualify (I've long since lost my qualification to spend an extra
12 pounds or whatever 20 $ is in the UK. on printer ink...the Office
Depot copy machine is cheaper and bordering just as convenient
at the cost of ink for my "convenient" home unit
chonesong 9 months ago
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davidnap717 9 months ago
EPSON Printer?
iTechNetwork 9 months ago
My printer I believe is 10 times better and it self cleans itself, where my HP never did that.
Windsong14 9 months ago
@Windsong14
Could be, although cleaning is the root of the problem here...
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago 8
@Windsong14. Why not tell everybody what your printer is? Then we could all think about getting one.
I hope it is not an EPSON for I have one, never again.
bbcisrubbish 7 months ago
Respond to this video... I am at a loss as to why some really cleaver scientist inventor has not got over this problem to beat the ink suppliers at their own game.
Surely there must be some method where-by chips can be by passed in every brand of printer by one universal chip inserted into cassettes.
After all, the vacuum cleaner bag rip off was beaten by John Dyson.
bbcisrubbish 7 months ago
@bbcisrubbish I use a fantastic continuous ink system and it costs me peanuts. I NEVER use the manufactured ink cartridges for my Epson Artisan 50. Way too expensive when I can purchase enough ink for months for only $18.99 for my bulk ink system.
oiledseabirds 6 months ago
yup; had the same problem with my lexmark printer many years ago; the "spent" ink had built up to such a height that it came into contact with the bottom of the ink jet head; it carried some of it back to the page it was printing.....hence there was so much smudge on the pages.
it's like taking a dump and not flushing your toilet; the next time you use it, you get to sit on the shit that's piled up and sticks to your ass.
amartinjoe 9 months ago
@AtomicShrimp, Also, I think inkjet companies may also forget to factor in the humidity difference. In US, it is rather dry, but in other countries, it is not so. Consequently, the ink head can dry up or clog up to different extent depending on the locality of the printer.
This reminds me of how European cars are often seen over heated (sometimes in flames!) in South East Asian countries ... the engineers forget to factor in climate!
bummers 9 months ago
@AtomicShrimp, thanks for the video. I found a similar design in (as I remember it) an Epson inkjet printer and also an HP inkjet printer. Granted, not all printers will squirt ink out intentionally just to waste it, most would squirt ink in order to clean the heads.
Some models are simply dumber in that they will do the clean cycle as long as it is a power on. Sure waste tons of ink this way.
bummers 9 months ago
@bummers
Agreed. I don't believe there's actually any deliberate waste-for-the-sake-of-waste happening here - it's just inherent to the nature of inkjet printers that the jets block up and need clearing - the material available to perform this is ink.
Inkjet ink does, however, remain one of the most costly liquids on the planet, but there are signs that manufacturers may be starting to take the brave step of making the ink cheaper and exploiting that as their commercial edge, instead.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
@AtomicShrimp And in the meantime, I'm using mainly laser. But will be looking for ink refills when I get a color inkjet printer soon.
And, don't bother about those trolls. Haters gonna hate! Cheers!
bummers 9 months ago
@AtomicShrimp
Ok, fine. The jets need to be cleaned, but what about ANY other liquid? Does it really make sense fiscally to use the ONE liquid that's more expensive per volume than human blood?
remludar 7 months ago
NB: At around 1:10 in the video, you can see where the solvents have soaked into the wadding, but the ink solids largely have not.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
@100silverpizza
The jets eject ink onto the paper when they are printing, yes, but in between pages (and sometimes during the printing of a page), the print head moves to the waste ink aperture (which is located to the side of the paper path) and squirts ink down it to clean the jets.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
good to know, but keep in mind that one of the purposes of this is to make sure the ink keeps flowing. if you let the printer sit for a long period of time it doesn't print anymore because the ink is dried up. however, this can be easily fixed by adding a couple drops of water into the ink pores
schmidtbag 9 months ago
You sure rename this video, "Good example on how to get rich off of, Youtube ads revenue." Notice how the ink pads are still white, if their was that much ink, those pads would also be black, and the ink would be dry up, he just pour the ink in their, to get money off of views on youtube.
RetroPCDOS 9 months ago
@RetroPCDOS
You're wrong on every point:
1. This video didn't make me rich, neither was that my intention. My revenue sharing income for ALL of my videos has totalled (to date) £298.80.
(more to follow...)
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
@RetroPCDOS
You're wrong on every point:
2. The pads are not black because inkjet ink is pigment-based - this means it's made from finely-divided SOLID particles suspended in a liquid. The liquid (solvent) soaks into the wadding. The solids *cannot* soak anywhere, so they become concentrated in the open part of the reservoir, leading to the tar-like appearance of the residue.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
@RetroPCDOS
You're wrong on every point.
3. The only thing I 'poured' into this printer was money - the money required to buy ink cartridges.
If anyone reading this still doubts my integrity on this, or any other matter, I recommend they visit my site (the address is in the vide) and see whether you think I'm the sort of person to mislead my viewers.
Uninformed, knee-jerk cynicism about online video and other content is one of the saddest aspects of the internet.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
@AtomicShrimp Your wrong on every point, I work on professional grade printers and have yet to see one that use anywhere near that much ink. Epson does use the pigment-based ink system, but the pump move the ink toward the middle of the printer and towards the pad so it can soak it up, of course sometimes clump up, but very little at best, plus the pump doesnt shoot ink back into the head, it suck it out of the head to clean the nozzles, then move the head over to clean the capping station.
RetroPCDOS 9 months ago
@RetroPCDOS
Yet again, you're not making sense. In this printer, the ink enters the waste reservoir from one of two apertures at each end of the the print head's travel. The pump apparatus (also part of the head cleaning mechanism) and the capping station has nothing to do with these waste reservoirs - the ink enters them directly from the print head via the holes in the bottom of the printer.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
@RetroPCDOS
Maybe the printers you're familiar with work in a different way - in any case, the accusation that I poured something in there, so as to make myself rich is both false and ridiculous.
AtomicShrimp 9 months ago
Inkjet are good for photos, use a laser printer for documents, the good injets printers the ink waste is removable for cleaning. No inkjet use that much ink, their are waste pads absorber in the printer, you just pour the ink in there.
RetroPCDOS 9 months ago
The least "they" could make this area serviceable
CTOL1 9 months ago
@CTOL1
The highend Epsons do, in the front and the door just sides out for cleaning.
RetroPCDOS 9 months ago
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Polacouba 10 months ago
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Polacouba 10 months ago
OMG! How in the world did you know or find out that wasted ink was there?
royalconcrete1 10 months ago
@royalconcrete1
I used to take these printers apart when they stopped working, to salvage the motors and some of the electronic and mechanical parts - the first time I saw it, I wasn't expecting it - and it made a terrible mess of my workbench - I couldn't believe it, but they all turned out to be like this.
AtomicShrimp 10 months ago
@AtomicShrimp
Could you tell me which brand of printer that was?
hellobil 9 months ago
I've always been against inkjet printers , and being an IT professional i know what a waste of money they are.
1.only a fool would buy an inkjet.
2.only an even bigger fool would buy a Lexmark!
3.only a fool would buy genuine ink cartridges.
ive never understood why one would buy an Inkjet especially when colour laserjets are so cheap now , Circa £100 - £150 new or £50 i paid for my HP CP1215 colour laser from ebay practically brand new !
b191191 10 months ago
ive had my printer for a few yrs now and its only just started to do the error shown on here for all the printing ive done on it its payed for it self i just went out and brought a new one much cheaper that getting it serviced
Barty63uk 10 months ago
You said you didn't want to identify the brand, but at the very first frame or so you can see it's an Epson printer.
flarn2006 10 months ago
they should use water to unclog
spamlhp 10 months ago
I can never get any printer to work once I get it home. :/
CYFilmStudent 11 months ago
It is dirty and it is a secret. However it also is "little".
Making inkjet printers this way has enabled the masses of the world to have quality and speed at a cost way below previous clogging alternative devices.
Rather than revealing anything the slightest bit sinister or negative, I too thank you for your video, but would label it "The Brilliant Secret to Inkjet's Price/Performance Ratio"! Cheers!
techylah 11 months ago
@techylah
I'd be inclined to agree, were it not for the inflated price of ink. As it stands, I don't agree that the price/performance ratio is particularly brilliant.
AtomicShrimp 11 months ago 15
so which brand should i buy, i have a hp photosmart now but the ink dries out very often and suddenly.... so what brand??
Garofild 11 months ago
What's your opinion of the color laser models?
bluecollarcanuck 11 months ago
@bluecollarcanuck
I can't help thinking that some of the very compact colour laser printers are so close to the small end of the scale that I have to doubt their efficiency - but I don't have any firsthand experience of them, so maybe they're better than I expect.
My experience of colour laser printing in general has been that it's great for text and graphics, but not so good for photos.
AtomicShrimp 11 months ago
@AtomicShrimp Thanks. I'll look into that further.
bluecollarcanuck 11 months ago
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Your video is very misleading. Not all printers behave like this, only "continuous flow" inkjet printers, and ultimately the more your print the more ends up in that waste reservoir. You can't recycle that ink either because it coagulates or hardens up. Do your research.
25sounds 11 months ago
@25sounds
This video is based on research. This isn't a continuous flow printer - it's a conventional desktop inkjet. Sorry, but you're just wrong.
AtomicShrimp 11 months ago 11
Perhaps you ran too many cleaning cycles. I have inkjet printers that have been working for nearly 13 years now. Or maybe it has a problem or something.
If this is true, I really think printer companies should include a bay where you could throw away the sponge and replace it. Hey it would be another part they could sell you too. They could even embed a cheap microchip inside of it to force you to buy their brand!
videogameobsession 11 months ago
@videogameobsession
This was one of several printers of the same model that I disassembled from an office where all of the printing was done on inkjets - they were all quite similar. Maybe there was something peculiarly bad about this particular model, but if you think about it - look at the size of the absorbent pad in there - it's an inch and a half thick and occupies nearly the entire footprint of the machine - clearly this printer was expected to accumulate a lot of waste ink.
AtomicShrimp 11 months ago
It's strange I have a Inkjet ESPON printer for like 11 or 12 years now, and not any problems... the heads are still the same. The last EPSON I bought ask soo much for Ink, and it seems you can't change each separate colour, even if they are separated... >_<
adam0509 11 months ago
@adam0509
maybe only the newer printers do that.
Bubba2x4 11 months ago
Congrats you just have been on a TV documentary
adam0509 11 months ago
wowzers, thats BS!
AxelTiger 11 months ago
so did you just empty it or did you work out a new deposit system
nickkk420 11 months ago
@nickkk420
I saved some of the useful parts and disposed of the rest
AtomicShrimp 11 months ago
wow oh no that is a 3 years worth of waste ink!
ongchorcool 1 year ago
This happened to my printer, although it was slightly different (there was only one sponge thing, which the ink was sent to via a tube) my dad replaced all the 'wadding' with an external bottle, attached via the tube, this took around 6months to fill up, but could just be replaced afterwards.
SamTarpey 1 year ago
the question is: does it work now? lol
usukker 1 year ago
I think my mom saw this because one day she came home saying she bought the cheapest printer in the world. I wanted to see it and it was just a few pencils and a ream of xerox paper... Ya. Cheap all right.
TheCalimbaKing 1 year ago
Yea that's an epson, and only epsons do this. why? because epson cartridges are just that, boxes of ink. Canon cartridges come with their own print heads, making them more expensive to manufacture, but they don't need to be cleaned as assiduously since the print head doesn't have to last the life of the printer. It's a tradeoff, live with it :o I've got a couple canon inkjets with continuous feed ink set up, so I get the best of both worlds: cheap ink and replaceable heads :)
AleksanderClark 1 year ago
@AleksanderClark - it's true that some printers have print heads built into the cartridge, however, the separation of cartridge and print head definitely isn't an idea exclusive to Epson - quite a few of the others do it too, including some Canon models.
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago
@AtomicShrimp it's not exclusive to epson perhaps, but it is something epson does on all their printers. This is because epson's print head technology is piezo-electric instead of thermo-electric... I feel safe in asserting that *generally* speaking, Epson printers have separate print heads and most other brands use integrated heads, especially considering the "disposable' mindset of the consumer inkjet market.
AleksanderClark 1 year ago
@AleksanderClark - Understood, however I'm not sure I'd agree about the dominance of integrated heads. In my experience, it's pretty much the opposite now, at least for the lower-priced models - and I was actually shopping for a printer last weekend - I don't think I saw anything on offer (within my budget) that had integrated print heads - HP, Lexmark, Epson, Canon - all small, ink-only carts - I settled for a Kodak in the end, because the (separate) print heads are easily replaceable.
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago
@AtomicShrimp ah, could very well be. I don't do much inkjet shopping, just a lot of inkjet scavenging, so it's possible things have changed. I could see where manufacture of the print heads has reached a point where they're more reliable, or the manufacturers have just decided to go to printers with even shorter useful lives. I'll have to keep an eye out if I'm ever in the market, I've gone through three heads on my main canon printer so far.
AleksanderClark 1 year ago
@AleksanderClark "...or the manufacturers have just decided to go to printers with even shorter useful lives..."
-This, I think, to a certain extent, at least until your printer breaks, they can't sell you a new one that takes even smaller ink cartridges than before
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago
what is needed is a way to electrostatically charge the ink and make the paper negative. just like they do in a auto manufacturers paint booth. nothin would be left behind to clog the nozzle.
CreazioniPinnacolo 1 year ago
I used to run a printer repair shop, believe it or we found urine to be an excellent cleaner for the printer heads. Piss in a mug or something, heat it to about 70 degrees, use one of those milk heaters/steamers that you get in those cappuchino/coffee makers, clean the heads. You'll be suprised how well it works
WarDwarfSalad 1 year ago
@WarDwarfSalad remind me never to get my printer serviced there. lol!
greatspacegibbon 1 year ago
Wholly crap that's a lot waste ink. I guess all ink jet printers all over the world are wasting as much ink as yours. Thanks for posting this very informative video.
stickwalker 1 year ago
What I do with mine is about every 10-14 days remove the print head and sit it on its nozzles on a wet paper towel for a couple of hours. This softens up and drying ink and cuts down on the amount of "cleaning" that needs to be done.
helloElectricpencil 1 year ago
wow
gordon1201 1 year ago
thats why laser printers are better-they may be more expensive but youll waste more money on ink on an ink-jet printer
Phanthomas8910 1 year ago
@Phanthomas8910 If you need a colour printer, however, laser is going to cost you thousands. Colour toner cartridges are heartrending expensive, and many printers would simply stop working if you don't replace the empty one. I know, I work in a place with a Rex-Rotary (Ricoh) toner-guzzler which is costing them an eye and a leg once a month. No remanufactured or OEM cartridges are available for that particular model, moreover, and originals cost from €85 (each colour) to €109 (black).
Gavichap 1 year ago
Imagine if they stacked 2 ink cartridges , using the bottom to catch the CMYB colors then you could rotate the cartridges and use the ink.. All this from a dumb bunny in Florida.
MrBluesguitarman 1 year ago
@MrBluesguitarman
That's an idea with potential. In practical terms, it might be difficult to implement in a desktop printer, because the collected ink might be contaminated with dust etc - so might need filtering or reprocessing before re-use
Maybe a single use filter could be built into the collection port of a disposable cartridge. The BIG problem is trying to get the printer manufacturers interested - it demands R&D investment, but would ultimately result in reduced income on ink sales.
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago
@AtomicShrimp Dust and debris-- Well, I was thinking instead of a well, have the print head move over top of another set of cartridges, after a wiper cleans the bottom of lint, debris, etc..
Then dispatch its cleaning ink into a waiting cartridge. shouldn't be to hard to do.
At least recollect all for black. or BROWN as I assume it would be. All colors mixed.
And I agree about interest, they make more by selling the cartridge.
Good stuff keep up the great vid's..
And inteligence.
MrBluesguitarman 1 year ago
It's not WASTING ink. It's doing it to keep the heads clear. If you can find a way for it to keep the heads clear WITHOUT doing this then you'll be a wealthy man.
DaPhotoGuy 1 year ago
@DaPhotoGuy
Pretty much everything you said is already acknowledged.
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago
@DaPhotoGuy That's right. But the technology to make the printer reusing the drained ink instead of wasting it is readily available. Just make printing units with ink TANKS (and not cartridges) easily refillable with ink bottles, with a closed-loop ink cleaning circuit. They COULD make it, but they won't because selling tons of plastic cartridges with 8ml of ink - half of which will get wasted - is far more profitable, and 'so what' to the environment.
Gavichap 1 year ago 2
haha Nice video, very informative and well phrased!
14th20thKRHkickass 1 year ago
do dells do this ?
carrotkid117 1 year ago
Sadly it is true. I used to carry a printer and the printer leaked while I was holding it! The leak came from the waste pool.
selfish74 1 year ago 2
this is like watching Animal Planet. :) the accent is so cool.
Zyandian 1 year ago 8
The company I worked for used Epson printers as part of a industrial machine. The most common maintenance was changing the tampon. Yes, that's the name for the cotton thingy.
HappyTinfoilCat 1 year ago 4
Great video, this explains why my Epson C88 gobbles up so much ink. Every 50 pages or so it needed a new black cartridge which is $20+ if you buy them from Epson. I'm never buying another Epson printer.
JammastaJ23 1 year ago
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I work in the printing industry. This feature exists exclusively on epson printers (its a patented design). it is meant to recycle the ink. It does not recycle the ink if non genuine cartridges are used.Instead this ink will turn to gunge as we have seen here. Why doe sit turn to gunge? Epson use a different way of getting ink on the paper thermal I believe it is.
Using compatible cartridges will void all warranty on any printer. And also cause it to break as seen here.
meerkatftw 1 year ago
@meerkatftw
There's no way this design could recycle the ink. The colours are not even kept separate in the waste reservoir.
Also, this particular printer (as well as all the others I opened, from the same office) never had anything but manufacturer-original cartridges used in it.
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago 23
@AtomicShrimp If the printer was designed smartly the ink could be easily recycled. All you would need to go is have a pad that slides under each individual cartridge head, and then pumps the ink back into the cartridge to be recycled.
tecno40 7 months ago
I work in the printing industyr. This feature exists exclusively on epson printers (its a ptented design). it is meant to recycle the ink. It does not recycle the ink if non genuine cartridges are used.Instead this ink will turn to gunge as we have seen here. Why doe sit turn to gunge? Epson use a different way of getting ink on the paper thermal I believe it is.
Using compatible cartridges will void all warranty on any printer. And also cause it to break as seen here.
meerkatftw 1 year ago
ooooooooooooooooo
dellinspiron17 1 year ago
try getting it serviced in Ireland - it costa €150 +vat for starters
lochderg 1 year ago
why do inkjets keep reservoir inks instead of just printing them?
KIBProductionz 1 year ago
ink jets must be the best rip off ever.
1 when you switch the money pit on the print head shoot's of to the side to "setup" squirt a £'s worth of ink out more like.
2 the "chip" for who is that for? i take no notice of that.
3 the ink sales are were the moneys made.
epson s21 £36.00 at comet colour ink pack £34.00.
brybish 1 year ago
do desk jets also do this
strikefire02 1 year ago
I had an Epson that commited suicide in the same way with the same error message as AtomicShrimp's did. I currently own a Canon MX300 that is over 2 years old. Which from what I gather, is about 200 in printer years. Before the MX300 flings itself over the virtual reality cliff, I would like to acquire a reliable backup. What printer is most reliable for color printing, faxing and scanning?
sensu28 1 year ago
Christ
markbethebest 1 year ago
I have an Epson and an HP. The HP has worked for a long time. If the print head gets dirty you are supposed to clean it with a damp cloth. The Epson (newer) does some self cleaning thing which I have to do to get the new cartridges working every time I replace. I feel like the HP is a better print head design.
coronet67 1 year ago
You you think that printers waste less ink when turned on and off each time you need to print, or less when you leave them on until next time?
As we all know that ritual you have to wait for every time you turn one on, that's probably when it does most of the wasting. :(
PrintingPro 1 year ago
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hahaha good one mate, FUNNY TWIST AT THE END.
BEST GAG VID!!! thumbs upp!
JoeCaliforniah 1 year ago
@JoeCaliforniah
It's not a gag video.
AtomicShrimp 1 year ago 14