FAA no longer requires a person to demonstrate a spin. They only ask that you know when a spin could occur and how to recover from it. However, some flight schools still give lessons on it. It just won't be in the checkride exam itself.
I went to an aviation college (not for flying though), and during sophomore year, students are required to perform spins on the checkrides, and are also required to remember how to do them for the first checkride of their junior year, so the CFI's recommend practicing every so often. At least that's one school...I don't know about others.
Spins are fun and important to learn recovery from. I've done one accidently b4 i got my prvt pilot license. They can be much more intense than this video-- sometimes whip lash you-- those are the ones you'll accidently get into practicing stalls LOL! Those aren't fun. Just remember RUDDER Opposite of turn, otherwise you'll turn into a washing machine. Glad I screwed up and went into one by myself. Gave me a better respect for them LOL!
I also did this my second day of stalls. The power off stall was great with only 100ft of altitude lost...power on....TOO MUCH right rudder and then a right spin
for all the people freaking out about overstressing, etc.
the 152's pilots operating handbook specifically allows spins and stalls, except whip stalls. in addition, with flaps up, load factors are allowed between +4.4 and -1.76 g
direktorxxx, yes you are correct. Corrent executions of spins and stalls are also a required element during most all licensing examinations; at least in Canada anyway :P
il richiamo post-spin va effettuato alla "sirena" ciò facendo minimizzi la perdita di quota in quanto la richiamata è eseguita al max delle prestazioni ;)
"the callback post-spin goes carried out to "sirena" the that making diminishes the loss of quota in how much the recalled one is executed to the max of the performances;):
In the U.S. it is only 'required' during training for the flight instructor license. It is good experience to obtain during any phase of training though, as long as you're with an experienced CFI.
In the UK, were no longer supposed to do it as part of the training syllabus, because more people have died doing them during training than qualified pilots.
pilotwhoisneverhome spins are not part of the flight test......i just got my private lcense and we never did spins on the flight tests but we did in the training. We did spiral dives for the flight test
well in canada it is part of the curiculum. And it is part of the flight test. The more training given to a pilot the better. And there is nothing crazy about a spin or spin recovery, very basic actually.
Throttle to idle, neutralize ailerons, full opposite rudder, pitch forward to break the stall. Or, in the case of most 152 and 172 Cessna's, let go of the controls. Due to the positive stability of the plane,90% of the time, it will correct itself without any control inputs.
it doesnt take much to recover from a spin and you can do it within 1500 feet of the ground. recovery from stalls and spins is something youll have to know in order to safely pilot a plane...not to mention that if you unintentionally stall a plane then you must be sleeping because your hear and alarm and then feel buffeting which means put your fucking nose down lol
Yeah its the total opposite of what you think lol. Cut the power opposite rudder... forward yoke; thats what's confusing... and then pull out... so much fun tho!
Yah this is pretty fun... im just getting my ppl and the first time my instructor and i did it i panicked and froze up. Then he told me to do something and instead of correcting with opposite rudder then pulling out and adding power i just added power and added momentum to the spin. That was so scary (And such a noob move by myself)
how cool would it be if a fully qualified aerobatic pilot made a video demonstrating spin recovery in an ordinary aircraft like a 172? just a thought...
Actually im studying for pilot in canada and i spin with full fuel in the schools C-172 but never try to do it below 2000ft AGL cuz u can get killed...
I think all you have to do to get out of a spin is to make sure you have enought altitude, use the rudder for the opposite direction of the spin and push the yoke forward. Otherwise you'll die in a ball of flame.
I surpose you know how to get out of one if you incounted it, but i would never do one for "fun". I'm not going to take chances like that. When i get my pilots licence, i'm not going to piss around with the plane.
Yeah, I read that once pilots get their license and there is no instructor about they can't help themselves and play around like when driving a car, making very tight turns and manouvers they normally wouldn't have tried under supervision, etc... which accounts for many pilots in the 40hrs to 250hrs flying time range lose control of the aircraft and die needlessly. I think I read this in the book 'Stick and Rudder'.
I was always told to neutralize the ailerons, and once ruddered out of the spin, to give brief, brisk forward pressure to break the stall (if still in the stall).
I agree with Clif7135, know and be comfortable with ALL corners of the envelope. If I had my way, spins and aerobatics would be part of basic flight training, the Air Corps had it right 60 years ago...
Did my flight test in 82 and my examiner had a cold, he did't want to do spins!!!! All that practice and no one to impress. Oh well I impressed lots of friends later that month! Now I own an airplane that won't spin
Just because it's no longer required in the U.S. doesn't mean you can't ask your instructor to do a few. I had a cool instructor who not only let me do spins but encouraged it (I think he had way too much fun; they are a bit fun). Being aware of a stall spin doesn't do you crap. You have to go out and experience it. It makes us better pilots, in my opinion.
doing spins is fun as hell... Do you think that you should do it only when there is an instructor onboard or do you think if you have your PPL and have adequate spin recovery training its OK.
I think if you have your PPL and you're comfortable, just make sure your W/B and aircraft is okay for spins and do it. You don't need an instructor if you know what you're doing.
thanks, Like I said they are a fun manuever to do and they really dont seem as dangerous as they may appear, the plane practically pulls itself out of it. Just not sure because the FAA recommends that it only be done under the supervision of an experienced instructor pilot, so I wasnt sure if there is more to it.
Good stuff, FAA wimped out as well as Canada and Only spin awareness now. In Canada spin training ( the fun stuff ) is only for Commerical, sen commercial , instructors and ATR only. Private adn Rec license only show you. I think We all need to learn to do spins and at least 5 rotations plus stalls on Take off and deadsticking. I will put up some deadstick videos on my videos later. Just click my name an follow the links.
Im from Canada and they teach us spins and spirals, after a few demo's from the instructor the student has control...its on our final flight exam with transport Canada..im surprised you guys arent being trained for this.
Beautiful! Thanks. I almost died in a 152 when I only had 16 hrs flying time - because the FAA doesn't mandate spin training for private pilots anymore. Now I can recover from a spin in 1/2 revolution. Instinctively.
Just did stall training the other day, power on and power off, power on went smooth but power off... Lets just say that trying to turn with the ailerons at low speeds is not advised, scared the shit out of me.
Agreed, in a 152, you have to try very hard to stay IN the spin. This was the first one I did that evening, there were others that were longer, but I didnt have much time before dark. (it takes forever to get the altitude back!)
Great spin. I had to do two this week (dad wouldn't let me solo until I'd done a spin or two). Both times he had to recover me. First time, I accidentally added power and turned it into a dive. The second time was better, I just didn't release all the back pressure.
awesome video! Check out my spin video on my channel when you get a chance!
smetz2006 1 month ago
@KhrisBaz whats an aviation college not for flying for? baggage handling? sorry just had to. but still dont know what it is for
CLayaway1 9 months ago
i dont care if its required or not its good to learn it so you can recognize it in a real world situation
youngestpilotinGa 1 year ago
me and my freind do this
1yankfan1 1 year ago
I think it is compulsory under FAA rules but not European. I could be wrong.
FFTVAviation 2 years ago
FAA no longer requires a person to demonstrate a spin. They only ask that you know when a spin could occur and how to recover from it. However, some flight schools still give lessons on it. It just won't be in the checkride exam itself.
SVnerd 2 years ago
I went to an aviation college (not for flying though), and during sophomore year, students are required to perform spins on the checkrides, and are also required to remember how to do them for the first checkride of their junior year, so the CFI's recommend practicing every so often. At least that's one school...I don't know about others.
KhrisBaz 2 years ago
Do you think they should be a compulsory part of training?
FFTVAviation 2 years ago
They are for CFI applicants..
goodgamejackass 2 years ago
I have to do it for my PPL
Stoutbreed 2 years ago
its not required though
aviator147 2 years ago
Yahoooooooo! Nice
USSCessna 2 years ago
yea , i did it for my Spin instructing approval, it was awesum... Not sure if i would do it again though :)
viraaj9876 2 years ago
Did some spins today in a Alpha 160. I have my GFPT, but since I have always flown a Piper Warrior, I'd never even seen a wing drop before.
Spin training is awesome :D I Highly recommend a plane with a canopy.
I recommend it to every new pilot, as it certainly helped me loosen up a bit.
AndrewLuecke 3 years ago
Spins are fun and important to learn recovery from. I've done one accidently b4 i got my prvt pilot license. They can be much more intense than this video-- sometimes whip lash you-- those are the ones you'll accidently get into practicing stalls LOL! Those aren't fun. Just remember RUDDER Opposite of turn, otherwise you'll turn into a washing machine. Glad I screwed up and went into one by myself. Gave me a better respect for them LOL!
jmitterii2 3 years ago
I also did this my second day of stalls. The power off stall was great with only 100ft of altitude lost...power on....TOO MUCH right rudder and then a right spin
Scooper08 3 years ago
i remember that i came and watched this before my spin training and now i found it again after my spin training. my thoughts about it now: fun :)
movitmovit 3 years ago
for all the people freaking out about overstressing, etc.
the 152's pilots operating handbook specifically allows spins and stalls, except whip stalls. in addition, with flaps up, load factors are allowed between +4.4 and -1.76 g
direktorxxx 3 years ago
direktorxxx, yes you are correct. Corrent executions of spins and stalls are also a required element during most all licensing examinations; at least in Canada anyway :P
konjfuzed 3 years ago
And IIRC, the aerobatic 152 is ~ +6 and -3.8 g.
josper6 3 years ago
You're right. You can spin the 152s big brother, the 172, provided it's in the utility category. This is a really awesome clip.
stranded170 3 years ago
I've done it... on purpose of course.
jeremyc311709 2 years ago
il richiamo post-spin va effettuato alla "sirena" ciò facendo minimizzi la perdita di quota in quanto la richiamata è eseguita al max delle prestazioni ;)
steliofrati 3 years ago
Translated by babelfish:
"the callback post-spin goes carried out to "sirena" the that making diminishes the loss of quota in how much the recalled one is executed to the max of the performances;):
Um.....thanks?
jmaugham 3 years ago
hahahaha
gren240 3 years ago
Not really the best plane to be doing spins in..aha
xgiannax 3 years ago
procedures to do a spin;
carb heat hot, power to 1500rpm and once 65knots is achieved, carb heat in and pull back and left or right rudder depends where u wana spin it to.
recover from spin;
power off, eas forward and opposite rudder and pull back once plane is stabbilized...
ecuaviation 4 years ago
OMG
jeka300 4 years ago
Oh my god, you have to do that in training?!?! for what license? god i'm not looking forward to that at all. lol i'll crap myself.
MacExpert 4 years ago
In the U.S. it is only 'required' during training for the flight instructor license. It is good experience to obtain during any phase of training though, as long as you're with an experienced CFI.
jmaugham 4 years ago
In the UK, were no longer supposed to do it as part of the training syllabus, because more people have died doing them during training than qualified pilots.
teenflon5 4 years ago
I'm working on the currently.
Very excited. Great vid.
xgiannax 4 years ago
to get a private pilots license, its not a requirement to do spins...only stalls. spins you mjsy do if you want an instructors license
JonnySchretz 4 years ago
for yall that think it would be scary its really not ive been doing em since i was 10 and its really not that bad its actually really fun!
airman01991 4 years ago
you need to be prep'd for emergencies, dont be my pilot
ponic420h 4 years ago
@MacExpert Naa you wont.You have a massive adrenaline rush.It's so fun you can't help but laugh.And you will want to do it over and over.
waterattack 1 year ago
woohoo i love spins! Best part of training lol. I got to do them in a 152 Aerobat. Did some inverted spins. Damn those were fun
JLuecke32 4 years ago
LOL nice
insycosaneman 4 years ago
lol....i almost did that in a C172.....scared the living shit out of me at first
but now i know what to do........
cessnan121pp 4 years ago
pilotwhoisneverhome spins are not part of the flight test......i just got my private lcense and we never did spins on the flight tests but we did in the training. We did spiral dives for the flight test
uandurhand 4 years ago
you do spins for the cfi
skypiratecaptain 4 years ago
Where in my comment did I say it's of the private flight test. Spins are part of the commercial flight test in Canada.
pilotwhoisneverhome 3 years ago
holy shit id be breakin out the parachutes already
tigerdirectz 4 years ago
IDIOT!!!
YKMav8r 4 years ago
Thanks Waz.
jmaugham 4 years ago
damn this looks like fun
NikitasGuitars 4 years ago
My fav part of training :)
Rav747 4 years ago
well in canada it is part of the curiculum. And it is part of the flight test. The more training given to a pilot the better. And there is nothing crazy about a spin or spin recovery, very basic actually.
pilotwhoisneverhome 4 years ago
Throttle to idle, neutralize ailerons, full opposite rudder, pitch forward to break the stall. Or, in the case of most 152 and 172 Cessna's, let go of the controls. Due to the positive stability of the plane,90% of the time, it will correct itself without any control inputs.
pilotzach 4 years ago
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damn, thats crazy, just wait till you crash one then you will want to change your career so fast that you wont know what hit you....or you'll be dead
viewicy 4 years ago
Spinning is a training procedure during Commercial Flight training.
It's easily overcome with proper training.
mahnarch 4 years ago
Part 141 schools learn spin/stall recovery during private pilot training too.
Prolly the funnest thing I've done in a 152 hands down...
tylerleatherman 4 years ago
pilots are safer than bus drivers or truck drivers, dude. don't let your irrational fears blind you to the relative safety of flying.
bistro39 4 years ago
it doesnt take much to recover from a spin and you can do it within 1500 feet of the ground. recovery from stalls and spins is something youll have to know in order to safely pilot a plane...not to mention that if you unintentionally stall a plane then you must be sleeping because your hear and alarm and then feel buffeting which means put your fucking nose down lol
JonnySchretz 4 years ago
Yeah its the total opposite of what you think lol. Cut the power opposite rudder... forward yoke; thats what's confusing... and then pull out... so much fun tho!
tylerleatherman 4 years ago
Yah this is pretty fun... im just getting my ppl and the first time my instructor and i did it i panicked and froze up. Then he told me to do something and instead of correcting with opposite rudder then pulling out and adding power i just added power and added momentum to the spin. That was so scary (And such a noob move by myself)
snowkick102 4 years ago
Whew I can't wait for the day when I get to practice a few of those!!!! WOOOOHOOOO
jbryan1888 4 years ago
how cool would it be if a fully qualified aerobatic pilot made a video demonstrating spin recovery in an ordinary aircraft like a 172? just a thought...
bobsouthpark 4 years ago
And you don't know if he was in the utility category or not... 172's are approved for spins if they have a light fuel load...
dan64456 4 years ago
Actually im studying for pilot in canada and i spin with full fuel in the schools C-172 but never try to do it below 2000ft AGL cuz u can get killed...
JAAPJXBlT 4 years ago
He had plenty of altitude... At least now if he enters a stall and spins on base to final, he knows a bit about recovery...
dan64456 4 years ago
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
wazzu90FIJI 4 years ago
Yeah, it's all in the book - "The Killing Zone", by Paul A. Craig. Great book. You wouldn't belive how recless and stupid people can get.
betmen1 4 years ago
You're fucking mental. Do you know how easily you could have overstressed that???? Nice video though, just don't do it over a poulated area.
thetaken23 4 years ago
I think all you have to do to get out of a spin is to make sure you have enought altitude, use the rudder for the opposite direction of the spin and push the yoke forward. Otherwise you'll die in a ball of flame.
eggtoc 4 years ago
The yoke back! Back damn it. You don't want go down. Just make sure you don't over speed it. I would never put it into a delibrate spin.
thetaken23 4 years ago
thetaken23,
My flight instructor forced me to do a spin against my wishes and I'm better for it.
jrusso7660 4 years ago
I surpose you know how to get out of one if you incounted it, but i would never do one for "fun". I'm not going to take chances like that. When i get my pilots licence, i'm not going to piss around with the plane.
thetaken23 4 years ago
You're right, I only did it when the instructor was teaching me how to handle it.
jrusso7660 4 years ago
Yeah, I read that once pilots get their license and there is no instructor about they can't help themselves and play around like when driving a car, making very tight turns and manouvers they normally wouldn't have tried under supervision, etc... which accounts for many pilots in the 40hrs to 250hrs flying time range lose control of the aircraft and die needlessly. I think I read this in the book 'Stick and Rudder'.
eggtoc 4 years ago
I was always told to neutralize the ailerons, and once ruddered out of the spin, to give brief, brisk forward pressure to break the stall (if still in the stall).
ddqq124 3 years ago
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah very cooooooool
NaKo1993 4 years ago
thats cool!
madronbln 4 years ago
I agree with Clif7135, know and be comfortable with ALL corners of the envelope. If I had my way, spins and aerobatics would be part of basic flight training, the Air Corps had it right 60 years ago...
cessna175 4 years ago
runpelstinski says:
"come to canada and you can practice spins for your commercial licence"
Yeah, Or stay in the US and practice spins for your CFI.
capceo1291 4 years ago
hey mate thats sweet as..it that what the spin of a wing drop stall is like??im 17 and studying for my PPL.currently up to forced landings..loving it
KiwiSkia 4 years ago
Did my flight test in 82 and my examiner had a cold, he did't want to do spins!!!! All that practice and no one to impress. Oh well I impressed lots of friends later that month! Now I own an airplane that won't spin
Ulai777 4 years ago
come to canada and you can practice spins for your commercial licence
rumpelnstinsky 4 years ago
Just because it's no longer required in the U.S. doesn't mean you can't ask your instructor to do a few. I had a cool instructor who not only let me do spins but encouraged it (I think he had way too much fun; they are a bit fun). Being aware of a stall spin doesn't do you crap. You have to go out and experience it. It makes us better pilots, in my opinion.
clif7135 5 years ago
doing spins is fun as hell... Do you think that you should do it only when there is an instructor onboard or do you think if you have your PPL and have adequate spin recovery training its OK.
xxboarder89 4 years ago
I think if you have your PPL and you're comfortable, just make sure your W/B and aircraft is okay for spins and do it. You don't need an instructor if you know what you're doing.
clif7135 4 years ago
thanks, Like I said they are a fun manuever to do and they really dont seem as dangerous as they may appear, the plane practically pulls itself out of it. Just not sure because the FAA recommends that it only be done under the supervision of an experienced instructor pilot, so I wasnt sure if there is more to it.
xxboarder89 4 years ago
Hallo freunde ich bin ein deutscher Privatpilot
Hello friends Im a german privatpilot
Ger007Man 5 years ago
Pointy spins versus flatty spins? Oooh, show us a good 'un.
MartySchrader 5 years ago
Good stuff, FAA wimped out as well as Canada and Only spin awareness now. In Canada spin training ( the fun stuff ) is only for Commerical, sen commercial , instructors and ATR only. Private adn Rec license only show you. I think We all need to learn to do spins and at least 5 rotations plus stalls on Take off and deadsticking. I will put up some deadstick videos on my videos later. Just click my name an follow the links.
kitfoxflyer 5 years ago
You rule, be safe...
stephanotismc 5 years ago
Good Fun!
bcradio 5 years ago
Ok i c. Anyways I forgot to tell you....Great vid I love the stall horn creeping on. I just might have to go out tomorrow and do one myself:) Cheers.
ELoney 5 years ago
Im from Canada and they teach us spins and spirals, after a few demo's from the instructor the student has control...its on our final flight exam with transport Canada..im surprised you guys arent being trained for this.
ELoney 5 years ago
It's only "required" for Flight Instructor applicants, but can be taught in conjuction with any certificate/rating.
jmaugham 5 years ago
This was great ! specially in the Recovery !
gescoboza 5 years ago
FAA should go back to mandating spin training IMO, all pilots should know how to recover from one.
Shardith 5 years ago
I love spins! You should have went a little longer before recovering =D
pilotboy17 5 years ago
Beautiful! Thanks. I almost died in a 152 when I only had 16 hrs flying time - because the FAA doesn't mandate spin training for private pilots anymore. Now I can recover from a spin in 1/2 revolution. Instinctively.
Crashman2 5 years ago
Just did stall training the other day, power on and power off, power on went smooth but power off... Lets just say that trying to turn with the ailerons at low speeds is not advised, scared the shit out of me.
NateDawg80126 5 years ago
iv never done that in a cessna yet, but came close on power on stalls, and i thought those were scary. Awsome stunt
stuga 5 years ago
recovered to early i thought, you need 2 full rotations before the spin is developed and stable
TunaHole 5 years ago
Depends on the plane. In a Cessna you may never be able to fully develop the spin. Let go and it'll pop out.
-Robert, CFI
RobertGary1 5 years ago
Agreed, in a 152, you have to try very hard to stay IN the spin. This was the first one I did that evening, there were others that were longer, but I didnt have much time before dark. (it takes forever to get the altitude back!)
jmaugham 5 years ago
Good work. Nice recovery with the opposite rudder.
celtpilot 5 years ago
nice man. spins are fun!!! well done!
stratlover84 5 years ago
haha Did some unusual attitude training today, tis the best feeling pulling out of a dive, feeling the G's and hearing all the air whoosh by. luv it
YobNco 5 years ago
Nice spin and recovery!
warszawianka 5 years ago
Great spin. I had to do two this week (dad wouldn't let me solo until I'd done a spin or two). Both times he had to recover me. First time, I accidentally added power and turned it into a dive. The second time was better, I just didn't release all the back pressure.
shattermage 5 years ago
That Is An AWESOME Example of a spin and recovery.
Check out Some Of My Videos from the Cockpit.
~Chris
ckarling 5 years ago
ah sends me back to my aerobat hours on weekends :)nice post
mikew909 5 years ago
Yeah we have to do spin training for CFI. I had a death grip because I was a little nervious...Still a lot of fun though!
AAL524 6 years ago
Gotta love spins!
Flynbryan 6 years ago