boizluv4ever you are a pile of shit and if i ever saw you i would rip your fucken head off what the fuck is wrong with you the man died and you say shit like that and your username is fucked up you deserve to be shot in the head
Anyone else think that Renzo v Ryan rolling are the best BJJ battles, might as well be a competition that for the pace and determination. From what I have seen, Renzo always won too! I love seeing these two roll.
Renzo still got kimura'd by Saku. Kimura and Saku proved that Japan produces better wrestlers/grapplers that are more versatile. After all that's where jiu jitsu originated.
Saku is an amazing grappler but the fact that he submitted some of the best fighters in the world doesn't prove anything other then that Saku is the man.
lol in grappling thats not the case but in a place where there are rules and striking it is. saku beat gracie in mma but when you say he could beat him in just grappling thats not gogin to happen and there are alot of gracies not just renzo.
@italdesign1976 they are the only two japanese to beat a gracie and kimura out weighed helio by nearly 70 pounds... and they went for what 12 minutes? sure jiu jitsu originated in japan but that is nothing like the brasilian jiu jitsu today. japanese jiu jitsu relied on strength gracie jiu jitsu or brasilian jiu jitsu relies on leverage. u can be 5 foot 120 pounds but if u have mastered the technique of bjj u can beat a 6'10 250 pound man.
@seigemma4 actually jiu jitsu started in india, then it wento to china and then japan. it was when it arrived in brazil that the art was developed into the sport we know today. jiu jitsu is more ancient than i used to think
tuve la oportunidad de conocer a renzo y es una muy buena persona sencillo humilde y super suelto para enseñar sus conocimientos gran maestro mucha suerte
what headgear is that Renzo is using? Brute? I need to buy headgear.. looking for the best one in terms of protection and comfort. Anyone got any tips please? thanks
TheRachas que eu saiba o BJJ é a Arte Marcial que mais cresce no esterior, tanto que os melhores Gracie foram pra lá.... Nada a ver o que você falou...
Rolls was considered the best until he died. Rickson was the familie champion after him. Since Rickson is 50 now Roger is No1. The rising star of is Ricksons son Kron....
Very good point on Rolls. THough I've only seen ONE bit of footage on him all accounts say he was the best. He was lso the one who brought wrestling, a lot of judo an Sambo to the art.
right, but the main weak point of most bjj guys is still wrestling and judo. thats why I like guys like dave camarillo and kazeka muniz. they included world class wrestling and judo into their game.
Yes and no. The regular sport BJJ guy doesn't use much judo, many use wrestling. But the TOP name guys Royler Gracie, Renzo, Anre Galvao, Saulo, Roger all use LOTS of Judo. Rger I think is a black belt in judo and i KNOW Saulo is a brown belt, Royler I think has a black and Rickson trained lots of judo. Run the names of the guys who win the worlds and ADCC and all have strong judo and wrestling.
Rickson, Rolls, Sylvio Behring, Mario Sperry, Romero Jacare and many more trained alot with Kastriot George Mehdi. A french brazilian 8th da in Kodokan Judo. I always recomend crosstraining in judo and wrestling. It rounds your game alot.
My school has a former Olympic judo player for classes 3 times a week, Saulo's school has awesome judo, my school also has a D1 wrestler teaching it's done a lot. I also go to n RGDA school.Some schools overlook it and talk shit about judo check out Jungle Gym a school in the bronx it's a ghetto thuggish school and the instructor Justin Chim Chim Garcia is a moron who hates judo.
Wow, gret to have an Olympian. Im a little bit jaellous now. Hating on Judo is just stupid. Most of the guys at my Gym come from Judo and My Professor is also a Judo blackbelt and a freestyle wrestling all american. So we have pretty much the same approach like you guys.
I say the same thing...Rickson was best on the early mma...renzo then took it further being mora of a modern mma guy than a jiujitsu guy...but I think of that generation of Gracies Royler was the best grappler....just look at his accomplishments...But hey Royce was the guy that made jiujitsu famous...Rorion was the mastermind behind ufc...and Helio along with carlos and Carlson were the pioneers and founders of BJJ
@dietermauer Royce fought in a few UFCs which were the first MMA events in the US he won and did well but Rickson had long been a staple of Brazilian and Japanese MMA type fights and all who truly know would agree he is the best Gracie to ever enter the cage or ring. Maybe Renzo has equal status.
can see the difference in their bjj styles even though they train the same way. Renzo being more solid and Ryan being more wild. seen this clip like 5 times, still amazing to watch. gotta love bjj
you're right.what goes around comes around,reap what you sow,ect. He should have been thinking of providing for those dependent on him. seems he was mastered by his own self centered choices,instead of looking at the possible consequences. now his family will feel the effects for years and years.A son growing up w/out a father,a sad thing...
I battle with myself as to weather you are right about us feeling sorry for him. Or weather it is HIS fault and that we should be angry for it. Such an internal battle it is.
not saying it's not his fault. we all have freedom of choice and we all have consequences of those choices. it's too late for him to learn anything about his mistake(s) now(if he would've). sad or angry,it's tragic none the less. maybe a commitment to a good set of morals like the 10 commandments,new testament,might have kept him out of trouble("submit to authority" wouldn't have been a bad place to start),but it's all too late now..
lack of moral guidance definently did not help him....
as far as fairy tales believe what you want,but even the gurus and rastas on your site call upon God and rastafarianism is based largely upon the Bible..
I'm a Sikh. We believe not in anything but the creator, something we know is impossible to understand. Something we know fictional books created by man can not explain fully. That was my point, that's all. Sikhism has NOTHING to do with Christianity.
I too believe man cant fully understand God.But I believe we can understand what He reveals to us.There is advanced knowledge in the Bible that can't be easily explained by human logic;earth hung on nothing(Job 1500+B.C.)lot of religion/cultures taught earth carried on the back of a creature,ect.some others;water in space(comets,rings of saturn,ect)Sun travels in space,ect,ect.from 1500-500BC.we believe all men know theres something more,we believe too much proof for Bible to be fictional. peace
Christianity or any other religion doesnt provide any moral values..
Morals are learned from childhood and teenage years. Other Gracie family had no problem with that so I think he was isolated case. Probably just stayd under his brothers and cousins shadow. Always trying to compete and not getting the same respect and the attention as others in his family was getting. So he isolated himself by doing stupid shit and trying to be "cool" how he saw some other kids do when he was teen.
The Bible does provide moral value(dont steal,murder,commit adultery,obey law,provide for family,how to treat others,ect)To say Christianity dont teach morals is like saying a BJJ school don't teach grappling,or course it does. But you have to want it.Then you have to study it,work at it, make it part of you. To know something and do something are not always the same thing. Applies to teachings of Jesus/new testament as well. trying to be "cool"thing,I hear ya.tend to become like your friends
earth hung on nothing recirded in Bible approx.1500+BC. greek empire didn't really exist till approx 340BC..they taught earth carried on back of Atlas.Bible stated truth over 1000yrs.before greek empire existed.roman empire started approx 200BC. they took most their religion/myths from greeks. it's good to seek Truth and see where it really leads...
there is nothing truth about the bible.. So many sadistic rules and contradictions it's hard to believe.
Bible doesnt provide any morals.. If you think it's more to be afraid of hell and obey then do a good thing out of your own heart then there is something wrong with you.
Now I dont judge anyone but you have to see that you wouldnt hit some stranger in the face out of nowhere because bible says "do to other as you would like to be done to you" but because you think it's wrong to hit someone
the Bible is truth,much proven by archaeology.the O.T. was wrote for people at that time&place.the N.T. is for everyone and has made much of the OT obsolete(besides morality)most people have sense of right &wrong,but peoples hearts can be deceitful. A lot of influences say it ok to strike,kill,steal,lie,ect. Dont make it right. If there isn't a moral standard,there need to be no punishment,jail,ect. Everyone would claim he's "right".those who dont have truth judged by whats in their heart.
Both Renzo and Ryan's father Robson is a black belt (9th dan) yet Renzo received his belt from his uncle Carlos Jr. Does anybody know why Renzo was promoted to black by Carlos and not his own father?
Ryan Gracie died after a night of stealing cars, fighting, then overdosing on his legally pescribed pills. The guy was a punk and a fool, although an amazing fighter.
wow dude i didnt like ryan gracie cuz of his aditude but jeez have some respect for the dead. takes balls to call someone like ryan gracie a punk to his face but takes a world class pussy to call him a punk when hes dead. go back to watching ufc and thinking you know everything about fighting u fuckin PUSSY!
I did JUST start Ju-jitsu, so I am doing more "then just watching UFC". And it's hard to compliment a mans stupid actions when he is still alive, when those actions are the things that killed them.
no not drug addiction, he was court ordered to take an anti-anxiety med for his erratic behavior and he slammed the entire bottle the 2nd time he got arrested...so it was more of an overdose from depression/guilt kinda thing.
I haven't read anything recent on this subject but this is what was on Sherdog.
He hijacked a neighbor's car and injured the man's finger with a knife. He drove like a block, crashed it and got out on foot. He then attempted to hijack a motorcyclist but other bikers came to the man's aid and beat Ryan with their helmets. He was then arrested and the police found weed, crack and other illegal drugs in his system. His psychiatrist came to him and gave him prescription drugs for anxiety.
howcome there arnt any other vids like this when the Gracies are just sparring or ahnging out together.....say do u got any more like when Renzo and Royce are together? and which one is older Ryan or Renzo?
Renzo É foda...tive oportunidade de presenciar ele amassando (e em muitos casos finalizar) muito campeão casca-grossa ae...lutar com ele por cima é que nem um rolo compressor, finaliza de onde for se vc der mole, tem um cem-quilos e montada pelas costas absurdos
then you never grappled in this intensity... you are full cardio and doing all your full strenght all the time... try to do it for 5 minuts... it's maybe like running with your full potential for five minuts, try to do it... you will throw your meal away...
its worse than running any amount of miles. you have to be so fit for this sport its not even funny. I do it myself and i get really tired fast. ever since i started to do it i have a new respect for the sport.
although true, for maximum results you must put out maximum effort, the essence of gracie jiu jitsu is to get as much efficiency as you can through movement so i don't think it is as hard as sprinting for five minutes.
it is tiring as hell though, i'm hoping to roll with renzo in november, at least meet him
That's pretty intense!
rumdrinker32 1 month ago
Rear naked choke ftw:D
takidabossen 5 months ago
boizluv4ever Your a bitch.
mrlikemykiks 8 months ago
Anybody knows the name of the song? Great vid!
Akao47 8 months ago
@Akao47 Korn - 4U
maduu 7 months ago
boizluv4ever you are a pile of shit and if i ever saw you i would rip your fucken head off what the fuck is wrong with you the man died and you say shit like that and your username is fucked up you deserve to be shot in the head
steelers43924life 9 months ago
Sou de Goias,Goiania sou e sempri vou ser fan desse cara Ryan Gracie levo vc como uma imagen,representando todos os lutadores do Brasil !!!
TheVinilutador 10 months ago
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gays dont live long
boizluv4ever 10 months ago
rola de cobras!
Taurusmth 11 months ago
Ryan is the bets!!!!
R.I.P
rfmxray 1 year ago
Anyone else think that Renzo v Ryan rolling are the best BJJ battles, might as well be a competition that for the pace and determination. From what I have seen, Renzo always won too! I love seeing these two roll.
Paulocity8 1 year ago
love the quickness
mataleao360 1 year ago
keep in mind that ryan was heavier by 40 or so pounds..
acdcrockstar911 1 year ago
man they are really going for it!
blueingreentrain 1 year ago
LEYENDAS
888joni 1 year ago
gostaria de ver o video completo,parece ter havido muitos cortes.A luta pareceu bem movimentada,gostei.
nirvanarenan 1 year ago
some of the best scrapping i've seen in a bjj video
SenorFantastico 1 year ago
History in the making... Clearly, two of the BEST BJJ practitioners of today's time... Ryan was one of the BEST!!! Renzo already is a legend...
jiujitsu75 1 year ago
@jiujitsu75 It would be such a great honor to meet Renzo Gracie. I began BJJ because of him 10 years ago and I still think he is the greatest.
oldpython 1 year ago
great fight
NelsonLima95 1 year ago
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pena que houve bastante cortes durante o rolamento...
em memoria
arturmrq 1 year ago
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pena que houve bastante cortes durante o rolamento...
em memoria
arturmrq 1 year ago
pena que houve bastantes cortes durante o rolamento...
em memoria
arturmrq 1 year ago
So many techniques in so little time. it's a beautiful thing.
truckieco2 1 year ago
that was awesome
Dissez503 1 year ago
wow! how awesome does Renzo look here, too bad he wasn't this good against hughes :(
MrFlyingMonkeyMan 1 year ago
scramble scramble scramble
americanwinter12 1 year ago
i wonder why they allways fight no-gi?
willslayer43 1 year ago
practicing for mma i believe.
masondarko 1 year ago
Thoes guys are sooooo horny, you can see it.
MrHunkDirty 1 year ago
@MrHunkDirty
They're family. If that was a joke you failed miserably.
Hurtado37 1 year ago
Wow the best grappling match ive seen.
hadenough996 1 year ago
RIP in a jail cell you thug you
MikeUntstinks 1 year ago 2
nice move at 0:47
masondarko 1 year ago
Isso aí até meu sobrinho de 11 anos faz.
LesCrapio 1 year ago
i love the lil slap at the end
mastermation 1 year ago
Isso é para ser visto milhões de vezes...
pvshark22 1 year ago
the gracies are the craziest best fighters to ever live in this sport...
bashry582 1 year ago
R.I.P. Ryan Gracie
I do BJJ and it is in my opinion the best martial art in the world.
pantsarewalking 1 year ago
wow thats some intense grappling rite there
f9hunter 1 year ago
Juventude vs Tecnica...video mt bom
Ganso1976 1 year ago
leões em furia
almirrc2005 1 year ago
fodaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
almirrc2005 1 year ago
whats the name of the song?
AAGERES 1 year ago
4u
korn
pedroex 1 year ago
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Shungo Oyama, vô quebrá sua cara Shungo Oyama, cê parece uma mulé!!!!
arturmrq 1 year ago
aff, aja gás!
terainfo 1 year ago
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Looks like a cat fight.
biporio 1 year ago
E os + novos panham dos + velhos.
Tapinha na cbeça no final.
8ferraz8 1 year ago 3
Im fucken serious when i say this is the best video im ever seen... Im glad im on the wrestling team.
Jmerritt92 1 year ago
@Jmerritt92 watch ricardo vs leo vieira friendly spar
SuperEzekial19 1 year ago
Renzo still got kimura'd by Saku. Kimura and Saku proved that Japan produces better wrestlers/grapplers that are more versatile. After all that's where jiu jitsu originated.
italdesign1976 2 years ago
Saku is an amazing grappler but the fact that he submitted some of the best fighters in the world doesn't prove anything other then that Saku is the man.
Chucifer 1 year ago
lol in grappling thats not the case but in a place where there are rules and striking it is. saku beat gracie in mma but when you say he could beat him in just grappling thats not gogin to happen and there are alot of gracies not just renzo.
Tracer564 1 year ago
@italdesign1976 they are the only two japanese to beat a gracie and kimura out weighed helio by nearly 70 pounds... and they went for what 12 minutes? sure jiu jitsu originated in japan but that is nothing like the brasilian jiu jitsu today. japanese jiu jitsu relied on strength gracie jiu jitsu or brasilian jiu jitsu relies on leverage. u can be 5 foot 120 pounds but if u have mastered the technique of bjj u can beat a 6'10 250 pound man.
seigemma4 1 year ago
@seigemma4 actually jiu jitsu started in india, then it wento to china and then japan. it was when it arrived in brazil that the art was developed into the sport we know today. jiu jitsu is more ancient than i used to think
watchbeforeyoudie 1 year ago
Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is a legacy for all the humanity.
TartarugaGracie 2 years ago 37
qual é o nome da música? whats the name of song?
Anderson260319933522 2 years ago
Korn 4 U
jzinhuroots 2 years ago
great fight =)
LacosteBoy1 2 years ago 2
Ryan...
sportspiano 2 years ago 2
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OliverFD 2 years ago
tuve la oportunidad de conocer a renzo y es una muy buena persona sencillo humilde y super suelto para enseñar sus conocimientos gran maestro mucha suerte
piezon10 2 years ago
R.I.P Ryan
jas108 2 years ago
Muiito foda . tenho orgulho de defender a Gracie barra *-*
lipinhoffc 2 years ago
increible, yo entreno bajo la academia de renzo y e increible ver como ellos se mueven.. ver esto me inspira a entrenar..
elrojomuerto6x 2 years ago
rip
christoefour 2 years ago
:-O! Wooaaah...
TheHardout2005 2 years ago
what headgear is that Renzo is using? Brute? I need to buy headgear.. looking for the best one in terms of protection and comfort. Anyone got any tips please? thanks
utarian7 2 years ago
Brute Shockwave. End of.
Yeah, your ears get hot, but they stay attached to your head ;-)
alittlerock 2 years ago
thanks mate. I just ordered mine now, very hard to find and overpriced because they are discontinued :( but still, worth it I guess.
utarian7 2 years ago
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mmm this is fucking sexay i must try this in the bed with my boy mmm
bobaikido 2 years ago
Pura técnica
Muito Lindo
JulioCesarPS17 2 years ago 2
lutas dos gracie eh otra coisa
eles luta d+
gabirobaba 2 years ago
rip
Batdarrell 2 years ago
isso é p/ os gringos verem...
ficam falando q BJJ é coisa d gay e q nos somos uns "tampinhas"! ai um otimo vdeo do os espera!
TheRachas 2 years ago
TheRachas que eu saiba o BJJ é a Arte Marcial que mais cresce no esterior, tanto que os melhores Gracie foram pra lá.... Nada a ver o que você falou...
niveladorxd 2 years ago
Isso é lindo
JIU-JITSU O MELHOR
rogerdobaixo 2 years ago
Coisa linda de se ver, treino de faixa preta é outra coisa.
marcenolds 2 years ago
R.I.P. Ryan!
Kiddmizfit 2 years ago 19
My instructor is the dude sitting down watching. Now he's got his black belt from Renzo. Epic.
Mortido 2 years ago
As good as it gets. Love the video of Rickson and Rigan as well, but that one was captured on really poor video. Thanks so much for this video!
SuperDaveOkie 2 years ago
pure art.
neverdesolate 2 years ago
pure art.
TERRORDASUL 2 years ago
beautifull indeed, very intense sparring
ZgPero 2 years ago
beautiful!
zdn 2 years ago
both are beasts
dekker1330 2 years ago
Lindo
irrahharp 2 years ago
cool
jv272rolo 2 years ago
u guys would know better than me...i was jw who was the best gracie?
Neilster1225 2 years ago
The best gracie grappler has to be RIckson Gracie, he was that one that taught Royce
thepiratep 2 years ago
Rickson is the most accomplished MMA fighter of the gracies, but in comp grappling I would have to say Royler. In all around MMA and comp Renzo.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
Rolls was considered the best until he died. Rickson was the familie champion after him. Since Rickson is 50 now Roger is No1. The rising star of is Ricksons son Kron....
Kletterbuxe 2 years ago
Very good point on Rolls. THough I've only seen ONE bit of footage on him all accounts say he was the best. He was lso the one who brought wrestling, a lot of judo an Sambo to the art.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
yes, he was pretty open minded for new stuff.
Kletterbuxe 2 years ago
right, but the main weak point of most bjj guys is still wrestling and judo. thats why I like guys like dave camarillo and kazeka muniz. they included world class wrestling and judo into their game.
Kletterbuxe 2 years ago
Yes and no. The regular sport BJJ guy doesn't use much judo, many use wrestling. But the TOP name guys Royler Gracie, Renzo, Anre Galvao, Saulo, Roger all use LOTS of Judo. Rger I think is a black belt in judo and i KNOW Saulo is a brown belt, Royler I think has a black and Rickson trained lots of judo. Run the names of the guys who win the worlds and ADCC and all have strong judo and wrestling.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
Rickson, Rolls, Sylvio Behring, Mario Sperry, Romero Jacare and many more trained alot with Kastriot George Mehdi. A french brazilian 8th da in Kodokan Judo. I always recomend crosstraining in judo and wrestling. It rounds your game alot.
Kletterbuxe 2 years ago
My school has a former Olympic judo player for classes 3 times a week, Saulo's school has awesome judo, my school also has a D1 wrestler teaching it's done a lot. I also go to n RGDA school.Some schools overlook it and talk shit about judo check out Jungle Gym a school in the bronx it's a ghetto thuggish school and the instructor Justin Chim Chim Garcia is a moron who hates judo.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
Wow, gret to have an Olympian. Im a little bit jaellous now. Hating on Judo is just stupid. Most of the guys at my Gym come from Judo and My Professor is also a Judo blackbelt and a freestyle wrestling all american. So we have pretty much the same approach like you guys.
Kletterbuxe 2 years ago
check out osvaldo alves. He was big on the BJJ / Judo mix
Dillingerescplan 2 years ago
I say the same thing...Rickson was best on the early mma...renzo then took it further being mora of a modern mma guy than a jiujitsu guy...but I think of that generation of Gracies Royler was the best grappler....just look at his accomplishments...But hey Royce was the guy that made jiujitsu famous...Rorion was the mastermind behind ufc...and Helio along with carlos and Carlson were the pioneers and founders of BJJ
AJDevilx 2 years ago
I dont think Rickosn is more accomplished than Royce, in terms of MMA.
dietermauer 2 years ago
@dietermauer Royce fought in a few UFCs which were the first MMA events in the US he won and did well but Rickson had long been a staple of Brazilian and Japanese MMA type fights and all who truly know would agree he is the best Gracie to ever enter the cage or ring. Maybe Renzo has equal status.
RightWingCon81 2 years ago
How many cage fights did Rickson have?
dietermauer 2 years ago
this is amazing, it looks like two spiders just fighting and battling it out. great technique
thepiratep 2 years ago
isso é lindo!
zdn 2 years ago 2
one of the best matches i seen
kr3w1030 2 years ago
ryan gracie is the one with the white shirt right?
kr3w1030 2 years ago
na its renzo in the white shirt.
TheChimeMan 2 years ago
Renzo and Ryan are the best of the Gracie's. 2 bad Ryan had 2 go out like that. One of my favorite fighters of all time!
mikestylz96 2 years ago 2
me too
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago
one word for this. amazing!!!
thepiratep 2 years ago
can see the difference in their bjj styles even though they train the same way. Renzo being more solid and Ryan being more wild. seen this clip like 5 times, still amazing to watch. gotta love bjj
Caplock21 2 years ago 2
Ryan is bigger faster stronger but Renzo is just a legend.
je1ani 2 years ago 5
renzo - tecnique of the gods
JustaEropeanGuy 2 years ago
Correction, MARCELO = tecnique of the gods..... Marcelo is GOD.
doogers1 2 years ago 3
very fluid! love that still!
RIP Ryan
boomdunker 2 years ago
it's brasilian jiu-jitsu americans!! FAMÍLIA GRACIE BARRA-BSB!!!!
gabrielbeludo 2 years ago
actually its BRAZILIAN. jsut thought you should know for your important point there
LouhMaylin 2 years ago
The flow is amazing, the kind of grappling a grappler appreciates!
COPE4N1 2 years ago
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COPE4N1 2 years ago
It's amazing to watch 2 world class grapplers go at it. Amazing escapes and such smooth and fast position changing. Very entertaining
jakemenard 2 years ago 3
genial cool maravillozo espectacular video me encanta es corto pero excelente
JAJAJAJOKER 3 years ago
Muito bom!!! Very good!!!
totopitbull 3 years ago 3
One kickass escape after the other.
Mrgyn 3 years ago 4
yo renzos tthe man
steveshort4steven 3 years ago
what happen to ryan gracie?
motox191489 3 years ago
Motox:
Got all messed up on drugs and stole a car. Was caught and died in the jail cell. I know my explanation is vague, so go Google it.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
Ryan Gracie R.I.P.
OriginooGunnClappah 3 years ago 3
great flow,didn't know about ryan's death...
poor kid, we all mess up sometimes...
twotetah 3 years ago
Twoteh:
Yeah. Ryan wasn't a kid though. He was a adult with a child who was expected to behave just like the rest of us. He got what was coming to him.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
you're right.what goes around comes around,reap what you sow,ect. He should have been thinking of providing for those dependent on him. seems he was mastered by his own self centered choices,instead of looking at the possible consequences. now his family will feel the effects for years and years.A son growing up w/out a father,a sad thing...
twotetah 3 years ago
Twotetah:
I battle with myself as to weather you are right about us feeling sorry for him. Or weather it is HIS fault and that we should be angry for it. Such an internal battle it is.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
not saying it's not his fault. we all have freedom of choice and we all have consequences of those choices. it's too late for him to learn anything about his mistake(s) now(if he would've). sad or angry,it's tragic none the less. maybe a commitment to a good set of morals like the 10 commandments,new testament,might have kept him out of trouble("submit to authority" wouldn't have been a bad place to start),but it's all too late now..
twotetah 3 years ago
Being brainwashed with fairytails (AKA christianity) would of done no good.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
lack of moral guidance definently did not help him....
as far as fairy tales believe what you want,but even the gurus and rastas on your site call upon God and rastafarianism is based largely upon the Bible..
the more the words,the less the meaning,...
I'm outta here. peace
twotetah 3 years ago
I'm a Sikh. We believe not in anything but the creator, something we know is impossible to understand. Something we know fictional books created by man can not explain fully. That was my point, that's all. Sikhism has NOTHING to do with Christianity.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
I too believe man cant fully understand God.But I believe we can understand what He reveals to us.There is advanced knowledge in the Bible that can't be easily explained by human logic;earth hung on nothing(Job 1500+B.C.)lot of religion/cultures taught earth carried on the back of a creature,ect.some others;water in space(comets,rings of saturn,ect)Sun travels in space,ect,ect.from 1500-500BC.we believe all men know theres something more,we believe too much proof for Bible to be fictional. peace
twotetah 3 years ago
Christianity or any other religion doesnt provide any moral values..
Morals are learned from childhood and teenage years. Other Gracie family had no problem with that so I think he was isolated case. Probably just stayd under his brothers and cousins shadow. Always trying to compete and not getting the same respect and the attention as others in his family was getting. So he isolated himself by doing stupid shit and trying to be "cool" how he saw some other kids do when he was teen.
tkstka 3 years ago
that's just my analyzing of the sitsuation. I dont know him personaly so I really dont know anything but what rumors and stories I hear and read.
So dont take my stupid mumbling as a word of truth. You know him best by asking people who lived with him and knew him from childhood
tkstka 3 years ago
yeah,I only recently heard of Ryan myself. Didn't know him. Looked like a world class A+ grappler...
twotetah 3 years ago 2
The Bible does provide moral value(dont steal,murder,commit adultery,obey law,provide for family,how to treat others,ect)To say Christianity dont teach morals is like saying a BJJ school don't teach grappling,or course it does. But you have to want it.Then you have to study it,work at it, make it part of you. To know something and do something are not always the same thing. Applies to teachings of Jesus/new testament as well. trying to be "cool"thing,I hear ya.tend to become like your friends
twotetah 3 years ago
Greeks and the Romans figured out everything you just said LONG before the bible.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
earth hung on nothing recirded in Bible approx.1500+BC. greek empire didn't really exist till approx 340BC..they taught earth carried on back of Atlas.Bible stated truth over 1000yrs.before greek empire existed.roman empire started approx 200BC. they took most their religion/myths from greeks. it's good to seek Truth and see where it really leads...
twotetah 3 years ago
there is nothing truth about the bible.. So many sadistic rules and contradictions it's hard to believe.
Bible doesnt provide any morals.. If you think it's more to be afraid of hell and obey then do a good thing out of your own heart then there is something wrong with you.
Now I dont judge anyone but you have to see that you wouldnt hit some stranger in the face out of nowhere because bible says "do to other as you would like to be done to you" but because you think it's wrong to hit someone
tkstka 3 years ago
the Bible is truth,much proven by archaeology.the O.T. was wrote for people at that time&place.the N.T. is for everyone and has made much of the OT obsolete(besides morality)most people have sense of right &wrong,but peoples hearts can be deceitful. A lot of influences say it ok to strike,kill,steal,lie,ect. Dont make it right. If there isn't a moral standard,there need to be no punishment,jail,ect. Everyone would claim he's "right".those who dont have truth judged by whats in their heart.
twotetah 3 years ago
I hate to argue about such things for no reason. It's silly that a Ryan Gracie video has turned into such a debate, lol.
Mrgyn 3 years ago 4
I agree. Arguing doesn't really help anything.
Dig the conversation,tho. message me anytime,I'd be glad to hear from you.
take care
twotetah 3 years ago
Hey guys, I don't know if you noticed, but this is grappling video
gaeanegative 3 years ago 3
Both Renzo and Ryan's father Robson is a black belt (9th dan) yet Renzo received his belt from his uncle Carlos Jr. Does anybody know why Renzo was promoted to black by Carlos and not his own father?
barrettokarate 3 years ago
wow... that was awesome!!! to gracies spar each other... smooth. peace to ryan.
jhunbig 3 years ago
why did ryan gracie past away?
CalvinLe111 3 years ago
drug addiction
geneticman13 3 years ago
u sure about that? i heard it wasa car accident.
Ferminator08 3 years ago
Ryan Gracie died after a night of stealing cars, fighting, then overdosing on his legally pescribed pills. The guy was a punk and a fool, although an amazing fighter.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
wow dude i didnt like ryan gracie cuz of his aditude but jeez have some respect for the dead. takes balls to call someone like ryan gracie a punk to his face but takes a world class pussy to call him a punk when hes dead. go back to watching ufc and thinking you know everything about fighting u fuckin PUSSY!
timmyboy714 3 years ago
I did JUST start Ju-jitsu, so I am doing more "then just watching UFC". And it's hard to compliment a mans stupid actions when he is still alive, when those actions are the things that killed them.
Mrgyn 3 years ago
no not drug addiction, he was court ordered to take an anti-anxiety med for his erratic behavior and he slammed the entire bottle the 2nd time he got arrested...so it was more of an overdose from depression/guilt kinda thing.
ordaboy 3 years ago
I haven't read anything recent on this subject but this is what was on Sherdog.
He hijacked a neighbor's car and injured the man's finger with a knife. He drove like a block, crashed it and got out on foot. He then attempted to hijack a motorcyclist but other bikers came to the man's aid and beat Ryan with their helmets. He was then arrested and the police found weed, crack and other illegal drugs in his system. His psychiatrist came to him and gave him prescription drugs for anxiety.
thecrazyfilipino 3 years ago
The combination of the illegal and legal drugs in his system caused heart failure. I understand what Ryan did was wrong, but died tragically.
RIP Ryan.
thecrazyfilipino 3 years ago
one of the coolest grapplin videos ever
JuiJitsuWhiteblt 3 years ago
rest in peace..bro...
soublaa 3 years ago
howcome there arnt any other vids like this when the Gracies are just sparring or ahnging out together.....say do u got any more like when Renzo and Royce are together? and which one is older Ryan or Renzo?
josephafg 3 years ago
Ryan was the youngest,he recently passsed away.
MadeRude91 3 years ago
yeah they were all out. that's the young dude tryin to take out the wily vet. awesome roll.
SubZeroBJJ 3 years ago
nice vid
bmxpunker2005 3 years ago
4U - korn
Razeeeeeeeeeel 3 years ago
pqp renzo era foda
dudateco1 3 years ago
Renzo É foda...tive oportunidade de presenciar ele amassando (e em muitos casos finalizar) muito campeão casca-grossa ae...lutar com ele por cima é que nem um rolo compressor, finaliza de onde for se vc der mole, tem um cem-quilos e montada pelas costas absurdos
musicologo123 3 years ago
Ryan,realmente foi um bom lutador.
rodrigopirespipa 3 years ago
what song is playing?
Ferminator08 3 years ago
Nevermind I got it..........
Ferminator08 3 years ago
no one can fight in this intensity for more than 4 or 5 minuts...
netozimm 3 years ago
I agree I have tried it before and it is very hard.
Ferminator08 3 years ago
i dont get why this guy is getting all the thumbs down grappling for five minutes is like running several miles..
paulgarcia316 3 years ago
then you never grappled in this intensity... you are full cardio and doing all your full strenght all the time... try to do it for 5 minuts... it's maybe like running with your full potential for five minuts, try to do it... you will throw your meal away...
netozimm 3 years ago
haha i agree, i do bjj and its the most intense cardio workout i have ever done, after about 5 min i feel like i sprinted about 2 miles haha
thepiratep 2 years ago
i have... i totally agree with you...
paulgarcia316 3 years ago
its worse than running any amount of miles. you have to be so fit for this sport its not even funny. I do it myself and i get really tired fast. ever since i started to do it i have a new respect for the sport.
Ferminator08 3 years ago
i agree and disagree:
although true, for maximum results you must put out maximum effort, the essence of gracie jiu jitsu is to get as much efficiency as you can through movement so i don't think it is as hard as sprinting for five minutes.
it is tiring as hell though, i'm hoping to roll with renzo in november, at least meet him
freddy6yh 3 years ago